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post Jul 9 2020, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 9 2020, 10:31 AM)
I am now :

EQ 25%
FI 50%
Money market 25%

Already miss the train since the climb from Mar till now sad.gif
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in your perceptive, what made you "missed" it?
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post Jul 9 2020, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 9 2020, 10:31 AM)
I am now :

EQ 25%
FI 50%
Money market 25%

Already miss the train since the climb from Mar till now sad.gif
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I dont encourage anyone to chase the market.

Some ppl are lucky they get in high and escape higher just before it turn back down.

Do you feel lucky? laugh.gif
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post Jul 9 2020, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 9 2020, 10:38 AM)
in your perceptive, what made you "missed" it?
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EQ rallied quiet a bit... like rabbit

My FI slow and steady up little little like tortise

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post Jul 9 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 9 2020, 10:40 AM)
I dont encourage anyone to chase the market.

Some ppl are lucky they get in high and escape higher just before it turn back down.

Do you feel lucky? laugh.gif
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haha.. my decisions always go the opposite. Buy something expecting them to go up, but in the end stagnant or down
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post Jul 9 2020, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 9 2020, 10:40 AM)
EQ rallied quiet a bit... like rabbit

My FI slow and steady up little little like tortise

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could that be due to your
EQ 25%
FI 50%
Money market 25%??

but as long as you are happy with that allocation.....it is OK
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post Jul 9 2020, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 9 2020, 10:42 AM)
could that be due to your
EQ 25%
FI 50%
Money market 25%??

but as long as you are happy with that allocation.....it is OK
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I rebalance from EQ75% to EQ25% before the CNY... March drop only manged to enter a little bit.

So now with OPR cut, need to think of $ sitting in Money market.. wanna make money work harder a bit
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 9 2020, 10:45 AM)
I rebalance from EQ75% to EQ25% before the CNY... March drop only manged to enter a little bit.

So now with OPR cut, need to think of $ sitting in Money market.. wanna make money work harder a bit
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On that, do take note about this below post biggrin.gif devil.gif

QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 9 2020, 10:40 AM)
I dont encourage anyone to chase the market.

Some ppl are lucky they get in high and escape higher just before it turn back down.

Do you feel lucky? laugh.gif
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post Jul 9 2020, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 9 2020, 10:41 AM)
haha.. my decisions always go the opposite. Buy something expecting them to go up, but in the end stagnant or down
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laugh.gif happens sometime.

cannot be correct all the time.

I chase return type. So its important for me to stay invest in equity. When i cant decide which fund for the region is the best, i just buy all of them. It will look like collecting pokemon but the return does varies showing that if you pick the wrong one, the return will be lower or higher. So i rather just average them out.

Example Greater China I currently have 3

Eastspring Investments Dinasti Equity Fund
Manulife Investment Greater China Fund
Principal Greater China Equity Fund - MYR

Bought more or less about the same time. But return is :

17.89
22.39
22.65

Dinasti is the less volatile of the 3 with best sharpe ratio, but it also return the lowest for me. So just trade your own plan.
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post Jul 9 2020, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 9 2020, 10:41 AM)
haha.. my decisions always go the opposite. Buy something expecting them to go up, but in the end stagnant or down
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Post here when you buy, I'll do the opposite hehe. Jkjk
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post Jul 9 2020, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 9 2020, 09:44 AM)
My indicator are lagging indicators because they are based on price action. I cannot predict before market turn lower. I use a dynamic portfolio sector n region allocation to mitigate this effect which allows me to profit both direction. I have been slowly adding to gold position since Feb. For equity, I've cut my holding by a little bit to lock some profit around Jun. Mostly by 1/3. But after that market continues to rally with a crazy euphoria. Gold new highs. I will share here once I see a momentum change.

Retail investors are just crazy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...srnd=markets-vp
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just noticed latest articles by Affinhwang Am & Principal Am
A BRIEF ON GLOBAL & LOCAL MARKETS, INVESTMENT STRATEGY.
WEEK IN REVIEW | 29 JUNE – 3 JULY 2020

On portfolio positioning, we remain highly invested with cash levels hovering between 3.0-5.0%.
We remain cautious and will continue to monitor developments on the COVID-19 front including progress of a vaccine with several trials having moved to phase 3.

https://affinhwangam.com/insights/weekly-market-review

Investment Outlook June 2020 by Principal Asset mgmt
We’re increasing exposure to equities relating to fixed income,.......
https://www.principal.com.my/sites/default/...mmentary_FA.pdf

hmm.gif thus not just retail investors are crazy only??

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 9 2020, 11:55 AM)
just noticed latest articles by Affinhwang Am & Principal Am
A BRIEF ON GLOBAL & LOCAL MARKETS, INVESTMENT STRATEGY.
WEEK IN REVIEW | 29 JUNE – 3 JULY 2020

On portfolio positioning, we remain highly invested with cash levels hovering between 3.0-5.0%.
We remain cautious and will continue to monitor developments on the COVID-19 front including progress of a vaccine with several trials having moved to phase 3.

https://affinhwangam.com/insights/weekly-market-review

Investment Outlook June 2020 by Principal Asset mgmt
We’re increasing exposure to equities relating to fixed income,.......
https://www.principal.com.my/sites/default/...mmentary_FA.pdf

hmm.gif thus not just retail investors are crazy only??
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I personally feel the fundamentals have changed now. Covid is less of a factor now with the world swimming in cash. So in order not to be left out, many institution have no choice but to invest. But we are diy retail investors. We don't have to do that if we don't want too. We can choose to be defensive if we want like some of our members here do.
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post Jul 9 2020, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 9 2020, 11:55 AM)
just noticed latest articles by Affinhwang Am & Principal Am
A BRIEF ON GLOBAL & LOCAL MARKETS, INVESTMENT STRATEGY.
WEEK IN REVIEW | 29 JUNE – 3 JULY 2020

On portfolio positioning, we remain highly invested with cash levels hovering between 3.0-5.0%.
We remain cautious and will continue to monitor developments on the COVID-19 front including progress of a vaccine with several trials having moved to phase 3.

https://affinhwangam.com/insights/weekly-market-review

Investment Outlook June 2020 by Principal Asset mgmt
We’re increasing exposure to equities relating to fixed income,.......
https://www.principal.com.my/sites/default/...mmentary_FA.pdf

hmm.gif thus not just retail investors are crazy only??
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Haha FOMO mah.

Don’t just think retail investors yang fomo.

Even fund managers too. brows.gif
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post Jul 9 2020, 05:03 PM

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post Jul 9 2020, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 8 2020, 12:52 PM)
OK... I should move some CMF2 to some bond funds!!! many thanks!

Maybe also take like 10K to gamble short term equity UT..  hmm.gif
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invest this on 25th june
seeing the ''bull'' does not stop anytime soon and after some tinkering with a close fren of mine
both of us decided to
pull the trigger on it
if the ''bull'' does not stop, one month holding probably will yield at least 6%

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post Jul 9 2020, 09:52 PM

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Hello. Since the FD rates are notorious. I'm looking at the next safe/decent investment.

Are bond funds in FSM a good buy now?
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post Jul 9 2020, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyCat @ Jul 9 2020, 09:52 PM)
Hello. Since the FD rates are notorious. I'm looking at the next safe/decent investment.

Are bond funds in FSM a good buy now?
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Amanah Syarish Trust thumbup.gif
I recommended it before it is marked recommended fund by FSM icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyCat @ Jul 9 2020, 09:52 PM)
Hello. Since the FD rates are notorious. I'm looking at the next safe/decent investment.

Are bond funds in FSM a good buy now?
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i think it is, for usually it was mentioned, when interest rates goes up, FI nav goes down.
as the current interest rate trend is down and the rises is not in the near future....so i think FI is a go place to replace some of FD.
but as posted by MUM at post 21871, page 1094 earlier, it shows not all FI are equal...

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post Jul 9 2020, 11:40 PM

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Early this year there was a Managed Portfolio promotion by FSM, if you subscribe to their MP you’ll get lifetime 0% subscription fee.

I just confirmed with FSM that I can change the RSP amount and I can still enjoy the 0% subscription fee.

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This means that the only fee that I have to pay is 0.50% management fee per annum.

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For the MP one of the fund is KGF, if I want to enter KGF normally I’ll have to pay 1.75% sales charge. It also comes with 1.50% annual management fee.

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If I were to invest through MP, I can bypass all that and only pay 0.50% annual management fee. Is there anything I’m missing?
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post Jul 9 2020, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 9 2020, 11:40 PM)
Early this year there was a Managed Portfolio promotion by FSM, if you subscribe to their MP you’ll get lifetime 0% subscription fee.

I just confirmed with FSM that I can change the RSP amount and I can still enjoy the 0% subscription fee.

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This means that the only fee that I have to pay is 0.50% management fee per annum.

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For the MP one of the fund is KGF, if I want to enter KGF normally I’ll have to pay 1.75% sales charge. It also comes with 1.50% annual management fee.

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If I were to invest through MP, I can bypass all that and only pay 0.50% annual management fee. Is there anything I’m missing?
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yes and no

yes because u indeed dont need to pay for subscription fee for ur MP

no because in fact you are still paying the highlighted, but for UT, the highlighted usually doesnt matter because it is absorded and reflected in the NAV, which means the NAV and performance you saw on FSM is already considered and included with the highlighted.


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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Jul 9 2020, 11:48 PM)
user posted image
yes and no

yes because u indeed dont need to pay for subscription fee for ur MP

no because in fact you are still paying the highlighted, but for UT, the highlighted usually doesnt matter because it is absorded and reflected in the NAV, which means the NAV and performance you saw on FSM is already considered and included with the highlighted.
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Ah I see, thanks thanks

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