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post Mar 6 2017, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 6 2017, 09:58 PM)
SG 0% SC, 0% platform fees  whistling.gif bruce.gif  flex.gif

One trip down = min SGD60 save vs TTing using banks even after count transport whistling.gif

It's all about principles. I refused to pay for platform fees/annual fees. You want to pay you pay. Why should one pay if someone kasi you for free? You so much money? Better I pay the platform fees to charity then FSM. Free no good paid also no good? rclxub.gif
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One trip down = SGD 60.00 x 2 (to and fro) = SGD 120 x 3.35 = MYR 402.00. Not counting makan and minum. But for you special wan, you will buy Gardenia Sambal Bun x 2 plus one bot mineral water = MYR 5.00 for the whole trip wan!

BTW you put in MYR 100K in bond meh? You kena MYR 400.00 per annum meh?

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post Mar 6 2017, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 6 2017, 10:11 PM)
One trip down = SGD 60.00 x 2 (to and fro) = SGD 120 x 3.35 = MYR 402.00. Not counting makan and minum. But for you special wan, you will buy Gardenia Sambal Bun x 2 plus one bot mineral water = MYR 5.00 for the whole trip wan!

BTW you put in MYR 100K in bond meh? You kena MYR 400.00 per annum meh?

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on top of it time is money. I rather be seeing patients during Saturday and Sunday and make money rather than to exchange currency, fly to Singapore. negotiate with banks to open up an account. bank in every once a while. don't think my health is worth the effort for a few percentage of returns

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post Mar 6 2017, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 6 2017, 10:11 PM)
One trip down = SGD 60.00 x 2 (to and fro) = SGD 120 x 3.35 = MYR 402.00. Not counting makan and minum. But for you special wan, you will buy Gardenia Sambal Bun x 2 plus one bot mineral water = MYR 5.00 for the whole trip wan!

BTW you put in MYR 100K in bond meh? You kena MYR 400.00 per annum meh?

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It's save SGD60 not spend SGD60. Yes. That's what I do to minimize cost + eat in SG. SG food only SGD2/meal. Cheap. Bus ticket also SGD0.7x only.

Nope. Will never park that much. But I do not like paying more than necessary. Again org kasi you free, you nak bayar? rclxub.gif

It's a personal principle to NOT PAY for platform fees if possible as overtime, platform fees > service charge = less returns. With platform fees = less money masuk pocket. vmad.gif ranting.gif

RM400 also money. moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif Cukup utk 5x buffet biggrin.gif

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post Mar 6 2017, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 6 2017, 09:44 PM)
after you quitely transferred...still will kena the platform fees wor
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My bad. Shud transfer to EUT instead of FSM

QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Mar 6 2017, 09:54 PM)
if no fees at all, why not just keep in CIMB?
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I was dreaming of switching to RHB EM Bond during good times and then back to RHB Islamic during a recession....
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 6 2017, 10:05 PM)
One more thing one may not be aware is, as your fortune grow, you need to start thinking about distribution as well. You actually need to think if you demise suddenly, you will want your next-of-kin to be able to obtain your estate as fast as possible.

If you put your money here and there, is like, sorok here, sorok there, how will they know where to find your money? It is as good as becoming government's money. Why? Cause there is an Unclaimed Money Act (UMA) where is the account remains dormant and the beneficiaries remain untraceable, the money goes to our Jabatan Akauntan Negara.

If you consolidate your wealth in an easy to find manner, you save them a ton of trouble and hassle. Once I attended a Rockwill presentation and the speaker said those Malaysians think very action want to buy property in London lar, in Australia lar....

Wait till you die and your next of kin need to claim your property that time... then you baru tau the hassle. Think very funny hor, buy here, buy there....

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True.. my family know all my passwords lol. Anything happen they can just transfer out smile.gif
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 6 2017, 10:15 PM)
on top of it time is money. I rather be seeing patients during Saturday and Sunday and make money rather than to exchange currency, fly to Singapore. negotiate with banks to open up an account. bank in every once a while. don't think my health is worth the effort for a few percentage of returns
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I have a feeling he is all talk no action. Yes, in theory go down to SG open account bla bla bla... once in a while to visit Garden by the Bay or go to Sands for some happy times OK lar.

But to do that as routine? To save SGD 60.00?

He sees the "*50 cts coin as big as bullock cart wheel*".

*Same meaning as penny wise, pounds foolish in local lingo*
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 6 2017, 10:22 PM)
I have a feeling he is all talk no action. Yes, in theory go down to SG open account bla bla bla... once in a while to visit Garden by the Bay or go to Sands for some happy times OK lar.

But to do that as routine? To save SGD 60.00?

He sees the "*50 cts coin as big as bullock cart wheel*".

*Same meaning as penny wise, pounds foolish in local lingo*
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let him be bro. he's still young and just started work. a lot idealistic ideas. later when he's more mature, maybe his thinking will change.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 6 2017, 10:20 PM)
True.. my family know all my passwords lol.  Anything happen they can just transfer out smile.gif
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One day they may transfer your money out while you are stlll alive...it is a risk you will have to live with.

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post Mar 6 2017, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 6 2017, 10:20 PM)
True.. my family know all my passwords lol.  Anything happen they can just transfer out smile.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 6 2017, 10:23 PM)
One day they may transfer your money out while you are stlll alive...it is a risk you will have to live with.
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that reminds me. I need to start looking at will writing and set a beneficiary for my epf which I always forget to do. now I'm also planning to leave as little debts as I can if I were to die suddenly in a car crash and leave enough money for my dad to live by
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xuzen we will see won't we biggrin.gif bruce.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 6 2017, 10:27 PM)
that reminds me. I need to start looking at will writing and set a beneficiary for my epf which I always forget to do. now I'm also planning to leave as little debts as I can if I were to die suddenly in a car crash and leave enough money for my dad to live by
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Keep in mind some people said malaysia going to introduce death tax aka inheritance tax after GE. Not sure true or not. Don't know how to overcome this. doh.gif One shot like US tax 40% of the total value... rclxub.gif
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 6 2017, 10:22 PM)
I have a feeling he is all talk no action. Yes, in theory go down to SG open account bla bla bla... once in a while to visit Garden by the Bay or go to Sands for some happy times OK lar.

But to do that as routine? To save SGD 60.00?

He sees the "*50 cts coin as big as bullock cart wheel*".

*Same meaning as penny wise, pounds foolish in local lingo*
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Thus this as a food for thought. We grow money to live our life or we live our life to grow money ?
Spend your entire youth to generate wealth, but no guarantees you will have time later to enjoy it.
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(biastee @ Mar 6 2017, 10:07 PM)
Me too! If I recall correctly, there was a 0% s/c promo at EUT last year. Anyway, won't this month should be an opportune time to buy this fund as it historically distributes in mid-March?
Distribution or not...does not matter in UTs

QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 6 2017, 09:44 PM)

I don't know how to provide a link as the relevant page is behind a login. However the screen capture shows the relevant fund with the 0% s/c in red circles.
Stated in the FFS....0% SC
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 6 2017, 10:30 PM)
xuzen we will see won't we biggrin.gif  bruce.gif
Keep in mind some people said malaysia going to introduce death tax aka inheritance tax after GE. Not sure true or not. Don't know how to overcome this. doh.gif One shot like US tax 40% of the total value...  rclxub.gif
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easy. give passwords to the one person you trust the most then again there was a topic in kopitiam that a guy gave his father who requested for money to be placed in epf. after the dad die there were no money to be found and he left debts do even the person you trust the most can back stab you eventually
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 6 2017, 10:32 PM)
I don't know how to provide a link as the relevant page is behind a login. However the screen capture shows the relevant fund with the 0% s/c in red circles.
Stated in the FFS....0% SC
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Same in FSM then. Those are something unique to the two funds.

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post Mar 6 2017, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 6 2017, 10:39 PM)
Same in FSM then. Those are something unique to the two funds.
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maybe due to got holding period specifications?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 6 2017, 10:41 PM)
maybe due to got holding period specifications?
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That's right. Thought it was discussed before. But after a while we forget, and go to to rediscover again. LOL.
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 6 2017, 10:42 PM)
That's right. Thought it was discussed before. But after a while we forget, and go to to rediscover again. LOL.
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yar-loh....same as the valid advantage info on eUT no platform fees issues.....this discussion seems to be repeated after a few weeks cycles......
when there is NEXT platform fees topic bought up by forummer (new or old bird).....
should we just say..."if one is concern of the 0.4% pa platform fees charges on FI UT that are to be bought and hold very very long time.....YES....eUT is better bcos it did not charge platform fees where else FSM MY does...."??

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post Mar 6 2017, 11:00 PM

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I would like to highlight that one shouldn't be focusing on the small things like platform fees and service fees when you should infact be thinking about where to invest in.

yes you are paying 400myr for a 100,000myr bond fund but you forgot the one reason you stepped into the whole unit thrust thing was the returns. so 6% of a bond fund is 6000 myr per annum. what's that 400 compared to the returns. I doubt that some of us focus on 400 when wasting money on cigarettes and booze and don't tell me all of you do not smoke or drink.

400myr/12 months = myr 33. don't tell me you don't spend more than that for yourself each month.

come on the topic has been done to death. it's getting a little tedious by repeating itself every forth night

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post Mar 6 2017, 11:06 PM

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How much charges to let FSM managed UT services?
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post Mar 6 2017, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Mar 6 2017, 11:06 PM)
How much charges to let FSM managed UT services?
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bond fund 0.05% per quarter

Equity is already calculated in NAV for their annual management fees

2% of service charges.

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