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T231H
post Jan 3 2018, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 3 2018, 04:13 PM)
Guys, some question on managed portfolio.

For example Aggressive portfolio ; the charges are one time 1.25% and annually 0.50% in 4 quarters.
it is 0.5% Mgmt fees Per annum for asset under management....prorata deducted 4x a year...total 0.5% pa
(0.5% p.a. Portfolio Management fee (charged on a quarterly basis))


If the funds internally like Titans fund have their own management fee, will it be charged to us also?
Yes,..that is charged by the fund house not FSM

What do you guys think about the managed portfolio?
It is a still new products...track records not long......
check out FSM HK or FSM SG track records..maybe can gives some idea?


My take is that it may not be such a bad idea, assuming it meets its benchmark right? In lumpsum investments I also dare not say my 10k shot will hit 8-10% per annum, over a long period...
some forummers posted here saying their own DIY port managed to high 10% and above ROI in 2017....but just not sure about portfolio's volatility % between DIY and FSM managed port.....FSM's also did not gives "guaranteed" ROI .......... innocent.gif 
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post Jan 3 2018, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Jan 3 2018, 04:44 PM)
Anyone here buys insurance from FSM ? What is their commission rate compared to buying via agent ?
Or should I wait until I can buy directly from the company ?
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here is what FSM says.....
"Clients can enjoy greater savings from Insurance@FSM as we are able to deliver 30% in commissions back to you. We help you in getting protected at the lowest cost possible and in turn encourage you to use the cost savings for your investments."

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/insurance/...e-insurance-fsm
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post Jan 3 2018, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 3 2018, 04:58 PM)

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Don't forget the no of funds available on FSM SG and HK makes the world of difference between their managed portfolio vs our version.
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post Jan 3 2018, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 3 2018, 05:12 PM)
Don't forget the no of funds available on FSM SG and HK makes the world of difference between their managed portfolio vs our version.
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yes,....
more selection, more rclxub.gif ,...but i think the selection guidelines, methodology and top mgmt directive on where and by how much% also play apart.

comparing FSM HK, FSM SG and FSM MY...are just comparing based on past.......
further more, those that cannot get access to those resources have just have to get the FSM MY one lor...
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 3 2018, 05:18 PM)
yes,....
more selection, more  rclxub.gif ,...but i think the selection guidelines, methodology and top mgmt directive on where and by how much% also play apart.

comparing FSM HK, FSM SG and FSM MY...are just comparing based on past.......
further more, those that cannot get access to those resources have just have to get the FSM MY one lor...
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Actually that's where you are wrong.
1) FSM SG is a very easy place to open account. All can be done online
2) In the long run, FSM SG managed portfolio > FSM MY managed portfolio as their fees is only 0.5% p.a biggrin.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 3 2018, 05:26 PM)
Actually that's where you are wrong.
1) FSM SG is a very easy place to open account. All can be done online
2) In the long run, FSM SG managed portfolio > FSM MY managed portfolio as their fees is only 0.5% p.a  biggrin.gif
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that is where you got it wrong too...
not many what to get extra trouble to do that...like opening and SG bank a/c....& getting into more forex risks.
fees...is also another matter..not many people are as calculative as you are.....
if really want to be concern about paying fees...UT investing is not on their list....
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 3 2018, 05:30 PM)
that is where you got it wrong too...
not many what to get extra trouble to do that...like opening and SG bank a/c....& getting into more forex risks.
fees...is also another matter..not many people are as calculative as you are.....
if really want to be concern about paying fees...UT investing is not on their list....
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That's where you got wrong too. FSM SG does not need a SG bank account biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 3 2018, 05:34 PM)
That's where you got wrong too. FSM SG does not need a SG bank account  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 3 2018, 05:35 PM)
wow...tell me more  shocking.gif
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All application are all online. Same goes with FSM HK. One does not need a HK bank account to open account with them.
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post Jan 3 2018, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 3 2018, 05:36 PM)
All application are all online. Same goes with FSM HK. One does not need a HK bank account to open account with them.
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then the forex exchange to and from there?
what is the spread & tt charges like....?

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 3 2018, 05:34 PM)
That's where you got wrong too. FSM SG does not need a SG bank account  biggrin.gif
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can get open but no enough money to invest...for some.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 3 2018, 05:38 PM)
then the forex exchange to and from there?
what is the spread & tt charges like....?
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UT should be money you don't use for 3 years+ right? So unless you are in urgent need of money, than opening account with FSM SG/HK should not even be considered at all.

HKD is pegged to the USD so how the uSD perform = how the HKD will perform.
That cannot be said about SGD as in SGD case, MAS (their BNM) wants the SGD to keep appreciating in the long term

Spread and charges is one time event (every topup) unless you keep bringing back and sending money out then it makes no sense to open FSM MAPS. shakehead.gif

FSM MAPS fees
Conservative 0.35% p.a
Others 0.5% p.a

QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 3 2018, 05:42 PM)
can get open but no enough money to invest...for some.... biggrin.gif
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If can buy managed portfolio, mana tak ada duit. tongue.gif
FSM SG only need min SGD5k to start and min SGD1k to topup. Offer partial withdrawal too.

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anybody know if there are sc promotion for managed portfolio ? planed to put in rm10k to try. tqvm
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post Jan 3 2018, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 3 2018, 05:56 PM)
UT should be money you don't use for 3 years+ right? So unless you are in urgent need of money, than opening account with FSM SG/HK should not even be considered at all.

HKD is pegged to the USD so how the uSD perform = how the HKD will perform.
That cannot be said about SGD as in SGD case, MAS (their BNM) wants the SGD to keep appreciating in the long term

Spread and charges is one time event (every topup) unless you keep bringing back and sending money out then it makes no sense to open FSM MAPS.  shakehead.gif

FSM MAPS fees
Conservative 0.35% p.a
Others 0.5% p.a
If can buy managed portfolio, mana tak ada duit.  tongue.gif
FSM SG only need min SGD5k to start and min SGD1k to topup. Offer partial withdrawal too.
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post Jan 3 2018, 07:39 PM

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my to be happening port by Mar 2018
currently left need to switch 3% AmreitsPRS to Ponzi 2.0 by end Feb than can happens
will be monitoring Ponzi 1.0 performance till end Feb too......maybe switching all to Ponzi 2.0
now my HK/China/Taiwan is abt 12%....if add switching from Ponzi 1.0.....will it go up to 15% sweat.gif

care to suggest for enlightenment port? notworthy.gif
I need this port to give 10% ROI in 2018..... devil.gif

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QUOTE(wkalvin @ Jan 3 2018, 06:03 PM)
anybody know if there are sc promotion for managed portfolio ? planed to put in rm10k to try.  tqvm
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I think most probably not.....why not read just a few posts up......posts by Ramjade worth considering..... thumbup.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 3 2018, 07:39 PM)
my to be happening port by Mar 2018
currently left need to switch 3% AmreitsPRS to Ponzi 2.0 by end Feb than can happens
will be monitoring Ponzi 1.0 performance till end Feb too......maybe switching all to Ponzi 2.0
now my HK/China/Taiwan is abt 12%....if add switching from Ponzi 1.0.....will it go up to 15%  sweat.gif

care to suggest for enlightenment port?  notworthy.gif
I need this port to give 10% ROI in 2018..... devil.gif
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Wow. So many..
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post Jan 3 2018, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 3 2018, 07:54 PM)
Wow. So many..
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yes,...many......
managed port also many ......same, same many....

but between 29 Dec and 2 Jan...my DIY is +0.5 where else FSM's is -0.03
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QUOTE(jfleong @ Jan 3 2018, 04:44 PM)
Anyone here buys insurance from FSM ? What is their commission rate compared to buying via agent ?
Or should I wait until I can buy directly from the company ?
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I think our Sarawak friend cancelled his policy with the agent and bought from FSM.

Fsm refund certain part of the commission they receive, back to you. So, of course buying from FSM is more beneficial, monetary wise.

I would say at this moment, only term life insurance is offered directly from insurance company. Purchasing that will not provide comprehensive insurance coverage. The industry is still far from providing the necessary coverage via online or directly. So don't wait.
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