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AMD Ryzen, AM4 / AM5 Platform
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terradrive
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Feb 6 2023, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 6 2023, 07:34 PM) 7700x + MSI B650 Tomahawk for RM2k worth? used set (seller aiming for x670 w X3d chip I suppose) still need to get ddr5 tho Yeah the price is actually cheap ddr5 5200mhz & 5600mhz is way cheaper now too, and zen 4 are not as picky on ddr5 speed This post has been edited by terradrive: Feb 6 2023, 07:37 PM
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mudkipryan94
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Feb 6 2023, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 6 2023, 07:36 PM) Yeah the price is actually cheap ddr5 5200mhz & 5600mhz is way cheaper now too, and zen 4 are not as picky on ddr5 speed waiting DDR5 drop more then i go ITX routes
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terradrive
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Feb 6 2023, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Feb 6 2023, 07:40 PM) waiting DDR5 drop more then i go ITX routes  nowadays i think worry more about price of motherboard than the price of ddr5
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mudkipryan94
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Feb 6 2023, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 6 2023, 07:43 PM) nowadays i think worry more about price of motherboard than the price of ddr5  ya lor siao that mobo pricing sia This post has been edited by mudkipryan94: Feb 6 2023, 08:00 PM
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goldfries
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Feb 6 2023, 08:01 PM
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40K Club
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 4 2023, 12:29 PM) ohhh curious on what price I put RM 1K also no takers.
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terradrive
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Feb 6 2023, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 6 2023, 08:01 PM) I put RM 1K also no takers. Hehheh give me slight discount, I'm interested, but need to post to sabah This post has been edited by terradrive: Feb 6 2023, 08:12 PM
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babylon52281
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Feb 7 2023, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 6 2023, 07:36 PM) Yeah the price is actually cheap ddr5 5200mhz & 5600mhz is way cheaper now too, and zen 4 are not as picky on ddr5 speed Zen4 DDR5 sweet spot is 6000MHZ and anything higher is preferable.
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SSJBen
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Feb 7 2023, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Feb 7 2023, 09:08 AM) Zen4 DDR5 sweet spot is 6000MHZ and anything higher is preferable. Anything higher IS NOT preferable for Zen 4 due to flaky IMC.
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Lurker
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Feb 7 2023, 04:53 PM
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L U R K I N G
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 7 2023, 04:38 PM) Anything higher IS NOT preferable for Zen 4 due to flaky IMC. Integrated Memory Controller related to the infinity fabric? *macam cerita marvel pulak
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SSJBen
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Feb 7 2023, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 7 2023, 04:53 PM) Integrated Memory Controller related to the infinity fabric? *macam cerita marvel pulak They are related yes. Most boards can push up to DDR5-6200 now with MCLK 2:1:1, but that's it. Anything higher is pure luck and even then it's only single rank 2x DIMMs. If dual rank and 4x DIMMs, can pretty much forget about it.
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babylon52281
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Feb 7 2023, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 7 2023, 04:38 PM) Anything higher IS NOT preferable for Zen 4 due to flaky IMC. https://www.anandtech.com/show/17585/amd-ze...-the-high-end/5Zen4 runs ideally at DDR5 6000MHZ as that maxed out Gear 1 mode, past that and IMC goes into Gear 2 but similarly to Intel 12/13Gen, once the speed barrier goes high enuff and coupled with lower latencies, the memory perf will shoot past DDR5 'sweetspot'. In terms of IMC quality, AM5 is better as it can handle higher EXPO vs Intel nonK at DDR5 5200.
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SSJBen
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Feb 8 2023, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Feb 7 2023, 09:47 PM) https://www.anandtech.com/show/17585/amd-ze...-the-high-end/5Zen4 runs ideally at DDR5 6000MHZ as that maxed out Gear 1 mode, past that and IMC goes into Gear 2 but similarly to Intel 12/13Gen, once the speed barrier goes high enuff and coupled with lower latencies, the memory perf will shoot past DDR5 'sweetspot'. In terms of IMC quality, AM5 is better as it can handle higher EXPO vs Intel nonK at DDR5 5200. Yeah ok dude. Tell me something that isn't more obvious than water is wet?
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babylon52281
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Feb 8 2023, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 8 2023, 12:05 AM) Yeah ok dude. Tell me something that isn't more obvious than water is wet? You seem to think water isn't wet?
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shredder
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Feb 8 2023, 08:37 AM
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Getting Started

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Anyone can help me verify/check if ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI support the new Ryzen 5 7600 (non-x ver.)?
Based on website, seems like not supported, but shopee seller said it is supported. Totally confused now.
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Lurker
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Feb 8 2023, 09:06 AM
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L U R K I N G
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QUOTE(shredder @ Feb 8 2023, 08:37 AM) Anyone can help me verify/check if ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI support the new Ryzen 5 7600 (non-x ver.)? Based on website, seems like not supported, but shopee seller said it is supported. Totally confused now. bios update should all that is needed
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shredder
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Feb 8 2023, 10:10 AM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 8 2023, 09:06 AM) bios update should all that is needed so far no BIOS update shown in the website (ASUS MY). Not sure from other region.
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Lurker
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Feb 8 2023, 01:08 PM
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L U R K I N G
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QUOTE(shredder @ Feb 8 2023, 10:10 AM) so far no BIOS update shown in the website (ASUS MY). Not sure from other region. then you better contact Asus themselves (not local support centers  )
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SSJBen
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Feb 8 2023, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Feb 8 2023, 08:30 AM) You seem to think water isn't wet? Stability, dumbass, stability.
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shredder
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Feb 8 2023, 04:21 PM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 8 2023, 09:06 AM) bios update should all that is needed That's the problem, in FB they replied to me it support. But from official email, they said it doesn't support.
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Lurker
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Feb 8 2023, 07:27 PM
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L U R K I N G
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QUOTE(shredder @ Feb 8 2023, 04:21 PM) That's the problem, in FB they replied to me it support. But from official email, they said it doesn't support. I understand your frustration
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