i agree with u, i suspect something wrong with the audio player.

tested bunch of audio players, some players really doesn't sound right.

well, I can somewhat tell through blind tests so i dunno if im crazy haha, perhaps there's some difference in the implementation so there will be difference. for example ASIO sounds different than WASAPI even though both are "bit perfect" streams.

Also maybe each player has different latencies that's why I coded a plugin on my foobar to bypass foobar's volume control and directly locked it to windows. But well, this will eventually spiral down to snake oil eventually audio topic very sensitive.

back then, I had a bunch of friends with the same hobby to do blind tests at my place over some setup difference just to make sure im not imagining things

guess something is wrong with each audio players then cuz they sound subtly different from each other to me.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 10 2021, 09:18 AM

Mine is Zen+, hard to push more with this value RAM.

3200-3466 is the sweet spot for Zen+ IIRC.

i tried using WASAPI with my usb dac, can't play dsd. ASIO no problem.

that's why i recommend Sony Music Center for PC for lazy ppl, the app default bypass audio player volume and eq setting if using WASAPI or ASIO output.

Not bad, although I already coded a plugin myself for that on foobar

mine pulak everything will be upsampled to 24bit because my DAC dont support CD format 16bit which is 99% of my audio collection. pretty worried the upsampling with bit stuffing will cause some sort of "colouring" to the audio stream . with other players i lagi wont trust the bit conversion. Too bad vinyl takes too much effort... haha else I would have gone for it. I have some Utada and Teresa Teng vinyl collection sealed cuz i dont have the player for them

I got alot of snake oil. People listen to my setup will likely end up kena racun haha... but i personally play with entry level + focus heavily on setup and pairings usually and to some extend include modding... making it relatively affordable that's why the racun even stronger.

but some of my mod are quite exaggerated, like using rca cables and stabilizers that cost much more than the r1280db speakers itself. Just like on my PC, my CPU is actually cheaper than my RAM lmao.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 10 2021, 06:24 PM

how come your dac dont support cd format? it can't be.

would you mind to try the Sony Music Center for PC and see if it remains unchanged in bit depth? give it a try and compare with your full blown foobar2k

wow…never know Utada got vinyl title.
never have a chance to fiddle with turntable…i guess that's too inconvenience for current lifestyle…haha

she has LP for first love, deep river and hatsukoi only if im not mistaken. I have the deep river.

well my DAC minimum bitrate is 24bit so 16bit not supported, need to upsample. I think got compare before.. I feel like it got some native bass boost haha from my impression. I can test again when I free, but my biasness, snake oil and placebo will surely cloud my judgement.

Turn table very mafan... most make sure the speed is synced, then must make sure the LP is flat and dust free. so you need stuff like LP cleaner and a device to flatten it as well.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 10 2021, 06:32 PM

Information sharing - Gigabyte had release X570 New Final Firmware of F33 - Update AMD AGESA ComboV2 1.2.0.2

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X57...support-dl-bios

What I heard up conversion bit depth will not affect the SQ, but never upsampling Hz (eg 44.1kHz to 96kHz).
I'm on Zen+ and noticed turning off the visualization in Foobar let the CPU clock down, anyway now my skin doesn't have any visualization anyway so I'm not bothered with CPU heating up when listening to music.

I have pulled the trigger for pre-build, not going to wait for more reviews for now...

Ryzen 5700G / 16GB RAM / RTX 3070 / 1TB SSD

being monolithic, Im pretty sure it will not have the high idle issues of the 3000X and 5000X and where you loss in IPC, you gained with lower memory latency. Good trigger you pull there.

Bit of a weird one though. No pcie4.0 coming from mobile, half the cache... doesn't really make much sense with that gpu

Yeah, the 5700G is a little strange. pcie 3.0 and 16MB L3 cache...

I was a little hesitate to order HP Omen 25L as Alienware seems to have better deal however, looking at Alienware situation... I decided grab the HP from Shopee. At least it's ready stock!

The pricing is fine compare to Alienware and there's ...


- no onboard HDMI/DP so that 'G' is totally useless
- Normal PSU - CM 500w 80 Bronze
- Intel bracket Aluminum CPU cooler... will need to change to another Intel Cooler...

Will get more detail when I get hands on the unit by next week.

Is the Sony player much better than Foobar?

tested, had a little too much gain by default aka loudness and cant find any where to reduce it so i guess it was hard coded in the player. Can hear very very very faint crackling and distortion on the upper mids and highs due to the gain but my ears just happen to pick it up (had repeated the same affected track over and over side by side to compare with foobar as well). bass is abit loose for my liking too. The distortion becomes more obvious on headphones.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 11 2021, 11:38 AM

It sounds about the same vs Winamp using Edifier R501T3.

in term of sound? no difference vs foobar2k or musicbee. (i don't want to include placebo factor )

i recommend it just because easy to setup, one click to select WASAPI or ASIO (if your sound card or dac got such driver) output and auto disable EQ and bypass in-app volume control when select those output.

i also recommend musicbee more than foobar2k because musicbee is simple and easy too.

you can just try it…it's free.

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 12 2021, 07:11 AM

Sony vs foobar, i managed to amplify the crackling by altering the tracks's gain it's very obvious now. Sony made it sounded like my speaker rosak with all the cracking and popping sounds. I probably can record it down but dont know how to upload audio on lowyat.

Got evidence now so i can confidently say the difference is not placebo. The hidden gain is there. Even when volume normalized on the speaker it can still be heard.

Track used: tokyo jihen - killer tune, accuraterip from my own cd to wav then converted to ALAC. For testing purpose, converted to mp3 for audacity to crank up the gain.

Music bee so far still ok, didnt test in detail yet.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 11 2021, 04:34 PM

Try this and see if it blows up your speakers or not. Bass house.