But you are not using Zen 3 or X570

Aside from cold boot bug and event 41 errors, both of which I've fixed, no issues on my end.

Zen 3000 X 570

Both 5600x and 5800x builds here, no issues and been rock stable on the stuff I work with.

No issues. Both Gigabyte BIOS for Intel and AMD rig is still crap. It doesn't handle some os boot properly.

This post has been edited by TristanX: Feb 15 2021, 12:38 PM

Zen 3000 and B570

It's already a known story and been happening since day 1 launch. My earlier 5950x bsod at bios defaults settings even with no xmp applied. It's documented in a forum in OCN . But there's no REVIEWER dare or bothered to pickup or follow up on it . And what's a shame is it's the flagship CPU that has caused most misery to ppl who is unfortunate enough to have purchased a poor quality or defective silicon. And worse part, there's lots of ppl defending Amd, blaming the issue on ageesa or the AIB or whatever. The best solution is to RMA the CPU until u got back a stable chip that doesn't bsod.

The truth is user experience on Amd hardware is inconsistent. If it works, good. If it doesn't, it's nightmare.

The results tally with the OCN polls of users with cpu that failed / bsod on stock settings worldwide. I believe it should reflect the truth.

This post has been edited by targon: Feb 15 2021, 04:42 PM

Blind love and stupidity. Eventhough I'm relatively error free with AMD so far, I'm not deaf to the issues people are facing.

Here's a prime example and here.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Feb 15 2021, 05:08 PM

B550.. means the problem is not zen3 exclusive.

Anyways just got back from lowyat with a 10400F and Z490i. Sadly rocketlake is not out yet but i dont wanna wait anymore.

ps: there’s alot of rtx3070, rx6800Xt but all need bundle... rtx3080 and 5000 series ryzen totally no stock even if you wanna bundle , while Ryzen 3000series limited and need full pc bundle.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 15 2021, 05:56 PM

Say wut? Zen 2 also need to bundle now?

at MSRP or scalper price?

msrp... but the revised one hahaha

WTB 1 3070, got a friend hunting for one assuming you bought it together as a bundle

nop, the shop that has the bundle for RTX3070 dont have stock for z490i.. so didnt manage to get it.

https://videocardz.com/newz/clock-tuner-for...-dream-possible

Hmm... to patreon or to wait until spring? Too much time spent on tuning the CPU to run 4.85GHz max turbo clock with Curve Optimizer already, could do with automating that and extra OC. Not in a rush for extra tweaking though!

Probably needs some people who know how to read European web stores to get RMA rates reported from there. The last time they had reports like this, it's mostly for the 5700 series Radeons showing a significantly higher rate than all Turing cards except the 2080Ti. Considering how bad some of the 5700 cards are, not surprising, although the 2080Ti RMA rates suggest that enthusiasts who are more likely to spend money on hardware are much more discerning (or abusing RMA for silicon lottery).

I saw a Reddit post where some guy quoted Mindfactory numbers, but with no source though: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/...e_high/gnjoyml/

If the numbers are legit, seems like Germans don't like Gigabyte X570/B550 boards in general, RMA rates are way higher than the rest.

Don't have to read the actual Rma figures. Roughly we already knew failure rates for Zen 3 is higher especially for 5950x.

I'd rather trust real world numbers than anecdotal evidence.

The numbers quoted by that reddit post are legit at least, based on the RMA figures for each product published on Mindfactory's item pages. The 5950X page isn't accessible presumably because it's OOS, but according to Kitguru it's 0.77%: https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao...yzen-5000-cpus/

5950X 0.77%
5900X 0.37%
5800X 0.58%
5600X 0.50%

Intel comparison (from all variants across items in stock at Mindfactory - they have different product pages for CPUs with or without working IGPs in both tray/box/special editions etc):
10900K+KF averaged: 0.35%
10850K averaged: 0.57%
10700K+KF averaged: 0.27%
10600K+KF averaged: 0.165%
10400+F averaged: 0.30%

There is some evidence that Ryzen 5000 CPUs have a higher RMA rate, other than the 5900X.

Intel's 10850K interestingly has higher RMA rates as well. I wonder why?

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Feb 16 2021, 11:33 AM

10850k is technically a lower binned of 10900k, so quality lower higher change of failure?