a few days ago doctor say i am diabetic.
i am not shocked, because my family are diabetic.
my mum was diabetic when pregnant with me. - is it true because of this my chances of being diabetic is higher?
doctor say my sugar is very high. like super high. now go down already but still in 11 to 14 range.

at first when he found out high sugar, first few days he keep on inject insulin when my sugar is higher than 14.
so now no more insulin because below 14. so he gave me 850mg metformin 2 times a day for 2 weeks. then 3 times a day for like 2 to 3 months.

i know what i am getting into and well aware what is going to happen.
but i want to understand what is going on with my body right now. i read here and there but i cannot understand a few issues.

i am supposed to be type 2 diabetis. the doctor didn't explain much. asked the diabetic nurse to coach me.
she say because i whacked too much sugar, so now my pancreas is damaged. cannot produce insulin. so need to cut sugar and eat medicine.

i don't understand, so now is my pancreas damaged and cannot produce as much insulin or am i insulin resistant like what they wrote in medical website?
or cannot determine whether my pancreas is doing fine or just that my cells becoming insulin resistant? you just can't tell?

why am i prescribed metformin? what does it really do? from what i can recall it is supposed to make my cells more sensitive towards insulin and make me produce less excess insulin into my blood stream? i need an answer.

why do they need to treat me like a chronic patient?
"unfortunately, you have to live with it now"
"there's no cure, it is a chronic disease, but you still can control it with healthy lifestyle"

now the problem now is, that metformin is giving me terrible diarrhea.
it happens for a few days already. yesterday no pass motion. i don't know why, but today..

i shit in my pants on my way to work. i cannot control my bowel movements at all. when i need to go, i cannot tahan.
i take public transport to work. i already reached office today but took a cab back home because i shit in my pants.

this week i shit in my pants for 5th time already. now i am having problem getting to work.
i am thinking to quit my job now due to long travelling distance in the morning.

before i take this metformin, i don't feel sick at all. i can run and jump. but this medicine is making me sick and taking a lot of MC this week.
please share your experience with me because i am getting depressed right now.

seriously considering quitting my job and wear adult diapers.

This post has been edited by JeweL_: Jan 20 2017, 12:30 PM

A lot of info can be found on the Internet.

U need to see back your doctor and explain the side effects and the doctor may need to adjust the dosage or change medication.

Google more information on diebatic to understand and better manage your symptoms and conditions.

Do you have medical insurance.

roystevenung can a diabetes still buy medical insurance. Will there be extensive loading?

This post has been edited by cfa28: Jan 20 2017, 12:53 PM

Bro cut down sugar completely , go complex carbo diet, eat more green vege, bitter gourd . and exercise,

And count calories, they key in diabetes 2 , weight management and calories intake. You can have a serving of pasta( get a real pasta and not the cheap one, real pasta made from real wheat not mix with other stuff )and monitor the reading.

White meat diet with vege , No sugar on everything. if you control it well diabetis type 2 will be in control and you dont need injection or pills,

If you want to taste sweet switch to stevia sugar , dont used those fake sugar like chemical based on that you can get in pharmacy.....Insist only at stevia....
Dont consume everything in excessive .

Alcohol is a NO no

Im sorry to hear that but to live longer u need to be compliance to ur medications prescribed by the doctor, tell them the side effect u have, later they will change to another drug or reduce the dosage. For now i suggest u read about the complications of diabetes.

i am considering keto diet..

trying now but hard to find food outside. everything need to prepare myself.
not easy for working adult. and OT days..

why keep on ask me read about the bad parts?

I have friend who had diabetes in his mid 30s, now age 70+ already.

He bought a tool to check for blood sugar level everyday https://s.taobao.com/search?q=%E8%A1%80%E7%...indexz_20170120

And inject insulin himself whenever necessary

Complications of diabetes is very serious and it can cause severe morbidity/mortality, therefore need to know how to prevent them. for example u can get hypoglycaemic attack, diabetes ketoacidosis, diebetic foot ulcer, hypertension, kidney damage require dialysis 3 times per week, cerebral infarction (stroke) and even heart attack

This post has been edited by asus_2g: Jan 20 2017, 01:14 PM

are you ... overweight?

what is your sugar level?

This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Jan 20 2017, 01:13 PM

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Nick Jonas also got diabetes yo.
Still ok wat

cheer up bro

Nick Jonas also got diabetes, Type 1 somemore.




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its affecting me, i cant even get to work. like today. i shit in my pants in the taxi. give taxi uncle rm100 and run off.

chubby, can afford to lose 20kg. and i will. last check was 11.5
i stopped eating carbs and sugar.

go back to your doctor. ask him can stop metformin for few days or not to let the diarrhea subside.

diarrhea?

you have been on metformin for weeks and only diarrhea for few days
so metformin is unlikely the cause.

since you are diabetic, you do have a glucometer no?
if not go to a clinic and have your blood sugar check NOW.

while i may be overly cautious, diarrhea is one of a sign of diabetic ketoacidosis which if untreated can kill.

the day i start is the day i laosai

he say maybe lower to 500mg but 3 times a day.
currently is 850mg 2 times a day.
1 more week later will be 850mg 3 times a day. --- this i am even more afraid.

since u MC today then fast fast go see back your doctor lorrr.

you no even reply us your weight and blood sugar....

must be got reason that doctor start you on higher dose, maybe sugar very high?

he got check your HBA1c or not?

got 1 friend of my father doing keto,now his blood sugar drop significantly....and so does his weight

you are not answering my questions but digging my info only.

Blend 12 (I dunno what to call sticks or strands) long beans (kacang panjang) and 2 red tomatoes. Drink the blend and repeat every day for a week. After that, check your blood level with doc. You might feel a bit windy (you'll be passing winds but please bear with it for the treatment) and sometimes dizzy a bit (reduce intake if dizziness persist). Reduce the amount of rice you eat and drink plain water all the time. Avoid sugary drinks. Hope this remedy could help you deal with your blood sugar level.

then you are not being truthful in your post.

and not a very smart patient for not telling your doctor.

it's obvious what you need to do no?

i think you don't understand. i see him already. he only give me charcoal meds.
either i continue 850 x 2 or give me new 500 x 3.
i couldn't make a decision. and this is affecting my life.

at the beginning of the thread i wrote i was diagnosed as diabetic a few days ago. what did i wrote that make u think i have been taking metformin for weeks?
i have been taking for like the 5th day only. what is the obvious thing to do now? can just say?

communication problem

did you tell him you are having diarrhea all the while on metformin since the prescription of it? or you just say few days?

This works for me and did miracle that my blood sugar was brought down to normal level. Even the doctor was surprised my blood sugar level turned normal after a week. Understand that what works for me may not work for you but there's no harm trying. It's just remedy based on vegetables. Also, avoid consuming bitter stuff too much as it might damage your kidney in the long run.

Oh yea , my fault for trying to help you.

It's your body and your diabetes anyway, not my problem.

again communication problem.

you are bad at it.

you just mentioned you have been diagnosed. didn't state any time reference in the first post.

i am repeating again. the next day after i started metformin i already saw him.
he say either 850mg x 2 or buy new 500mg x 3. or do i want to continue my 3 month stock 850mg now.
i said i continue first and see how.

are you guys telling me to take the 500mg option x 3? or should i load up my charcoal pill fix?

if i take the 500mg pills what do i do with the 3 months stock 850mg?

nvm, i wait for the right person to comment.

thanks for your help

Facts you need to learn in this world

1. It's YOUR diabetes, and it is YOU who is suffering now
2. Nobody in this world owes you anything
3. Nobody in this world "needs" to help you
4. If someone wants to help you, it's out of COMPASSION and COURTESY for you

This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Jan 20 2017, 01:49 PM

raw?

hi, please leave my thread.

oh no, what happened?

now ppl ask like a boss, see also dulan and somehow i feel u really dai sei if u still remain such attitude

Yes, wash those thoroughly and blend. Consume it raw.

500mgX3 might be better if the high dose of metformin is causing the diarrhea.

but it can also be a coincidence of you having diarrhea of another cause. so just take the charcoal since no harm taking it.

what to do with the 850mg if you decide to take the 500mg pills? return back la.

it's making me laosai because i no eat carbs and sugar???

if people want to help, they need to know a bit of detail.

diabetes - blood sugar and weight not important?

But I thanked him anyway, for reminding me not to waste time on people who don't appreciate help.

See ya!

i havent touch the charcoal pills because the pharmacist said do not take with other pills. only take 2 hours after the other pill.
maybe i should eat that charcoal pill? i was deceived by yesterday because i take metformin as per normal but didn't shit whole day.

i thought i am constipated because no carbs. oh hell today diarrhea again. tomorrow i have to work too. i can shit at office, it's the journey to office that i am afraid of right now.

please understand my frustration towards this medicine, will i really get over this laosai period? when i up my dose will i laosai even more

the doctor say eat before meal
the nurse say during or after meal, dun listen to doctor
now u say eat after 30mins?

there is no known drug-drug interaction between metformin and charcoal

http://www.hovid.com/p/164/diabetmin-850mg-fc-tab

this one

when should i eat this charcoal? together?

up to you.

it doesn't really matter

i had metformin at 10.30am just now. should i eat charcoal now?

and then dinner time 1 metformin and 1 charcoal. ok?

1 x 850mg day and night.

why the doctor do this to me?

up to you

blood sugar........

unless it is always on the low side of diabetic like less than 7 while on that dosage then definitely need to reduce dose.

do you own a glucometer?

ok thanks

No, if the sugar level is > 6.5 it is considered diabetic and unable to get medical insurance.

Of course carafei agent will say yes amd dont declare it, but when a claim arises for diabetic related complications, they disappear faster than a speeding bullet.

This is called fecal incontinence.

There are some medicines help to reduce the stool volume, such as Loperamide HCl. Check with your doctor. Only your health care provider has the knowledge and training to decide which medicines are right for you.

stop sweet drink drink more water , more fruits

that's for fasting blood sugar or random blood sugar?

is the number the same for pregnant mothers?

Interesting, mind if i ask what was the sugar level before and after you started the drink?

Might suggest to my clients

Please start running at least 5KM a day.
10K steps a day.
At least 160KM a month.
Reduce sugar intake.

For accurate results it is always required to fast at least 8-10 hours for blood test.

Pregnancy may cause the sugar level to increase and if it does increase above normal, it is not a good time to apply.

After the pregnancy another test may be needed to show that the level has returned to normal, otherwise it is considered diabetic.

What if subsequently manages to control and bring down the sugar level.

so a pregnant women can't get insurance?

same here, lets go sleep, dont waste time on him

This post has been edited by chosenlc: Jan 20 2017, 02:45 PM

I am uncertain as to how the underwriter will view this case cos i have yet to encounter any cases where the client is able to become non-diabetic.

Well there are cases where the client claim that they did not fast for the blood test but when ask to redo the test with fasting they kept quiet.

Can provided there are no abnormalities detected.

Okay i will stop answering all insurance question for now on. If want open your own thread in kopitiam.

sorry but it is not 30 minutes after

it is SOON after meal. Reason - to reduce side effects - which is ? - nausea/vomiting/DIARRHEA.

You can check product information leaflet to confirm.

its time to change your lifestyle .. i know you said your chubby thats mean you are not physically active in sport or any outdoor activity. So this will be very hard for you to suddenly change . From meals (the hardest part) and physical activity but you have no choice . So start immediately write down you plans ,activity and start doing it. For you medical condition please go check with your doctor or get another opinion asking US in forum will only do more harm than good(mentally).

nowadays insurance company start to order HBA1c already and not reliant solely on Fasting blood sugar. Customers can always cheat on their Fasting blood sugar, but they can't cheat with HBA1c.

This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Jan 20 2017, 03:01 PM

Once kena tag as diabetic, means its not a one off case, there is no cure.

Do u smoke or drink a lot?

Im a Type 2 diabetic, not born with it but both my parents side had diabetic in all family members & some died due to that very long time ago, ever since i was a kid i do not love sweet stuff, i still end up getting it. anyway my sugar lvl is around 6-8, taking 500gm glucophage (metformin) once a day only in the morning, but i skip sometimes when im lazy lol. I manage to stay on 6-8 without taking med for 2 years for my personal reason (do not follow my steps on skipping)

Your blood sugar is actually very high at 14, my dad is at 9-12 his taking insulin once a day & 850gm 1 tablet morning & night, after medication his hovering around 7-8 if he "curi makan". So far none of us had diarrhea issues but to be fair my dad had be taking the medication since his 20s, only started insulin maybe in this last 2 years, his now near 70.

You need to start a new strict diet plan, it wont be too extreme but if you could follow this you would lose weight while at it.

- Try to stop taking white rice or rice of anytype, i know ppl would usually go for brown rice but i would skip rice all together
- No carbonated drinks (coke/100+/7up) even for fast food combo choose drinking/mineral water
- Eat 60-70% full not too full, do not skip meal.
- Never eat near sleep time
- Skip everything thats sweet (chocolate/ice cream) apart from fruits, even for drinks like milo, horlics, sirap ice, teh ice & etc etc, if you had to then choose kosong.
- Do not buy products with less sweet, or artificial sweetening
- Take more soup based food, mee/kueh teow/meehoon goreng those to replace your normal rice meal
- try to sweat more from work/exercise

After doing this awhile you would probably get used to it, its hard to begin with but most diabetics patient that could control their diet had to go thru this stage. getting diabetics this early in age means you will have to be on medication for at least another 30-40 years, you had to get things under control fast else it might damage your kidney or other parts of your body (eye, leg, hand)

Anyway here is a good news for you, you can start a fun diet plan like how i do to me & my dad. Mon-Sat no rice, Sun (curi makan day) , but for you i would not suggest this plan yet but try 2 weeks once to start? once you could get it down below 9-10 then you can try my "fun plan".

keep trying dont lose hope! diabetic isnt the end of day. (Please buy your self a glucose meter, so you know which food you need to avoid)


Edit:-

This is the info i get from searching
Glucophage (Metformin) is a very effective medicine to lower blood sugar and the risk of complications and death from diabetes, but it's likely to cause diarrhea for the first few weeks.

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Jan 20 2017, 04:02 PM

thank you

Tried find fig leaves tea and consume it...it will bring down your diabetic level.

You can search Formeniaga Sales in facebook. They sales organic one.

Fasting blood sugar test showed reading above 7 before I start the remedy if I still remember correctly. I ran the test for the employment medical check-up. After a week of repeat checkup to to confirm, my blood sugar level went down to normal level but I don't remember the exact figure. Might need to ask the recruiter for the letter from the doctor to get the exact figure.

Have you checked HBA1c level for a more accurate reading of your sugar control? Fasting blood sugar is not a good indicator for blood sugar control.

Cost about RM40-60 at private lab.

Hi

Please read about intermittent fasting and diabetes. Maybe should help you.

I seriously think you should look for a better Doctor. The nurse is stupid.

Not sure what is HBA1C but I did both blood and urine sample. Both at 2 different clinics.

There is a lot of information, must have the patient to learn and practice, you will see positive results or negative results in mid and long term.

I didn't see all the posts above, I guess another point you need to take care is low sugar level.

Your family are diabetic because your family eat the same food . If you want to heal your diabetes , you must change your lifestyle . Stop eating process food like roti canai , fried animal products like KFC , soda , french fries , cookies etc . Try drinking lots of plain water regularly . Diabetes is dangerous because it effects 3 things , your vision , your kidney and your limbs like your legs . There are many doctors who are experts in diabetes and one of the best is Dr Neal Barnard . You can watch many of his diabetes videos in Youtube . I also have a friend who's having diabetes but he just refused changing his diet . Nothing much I can do for people who don't want to change .

Dr Barnard method is simple . Stop eating all animal products like meat , fish , chicken , eggs , milk and cheese .



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This post has been edited by Empathy: Jan 21 2017, 04:48 PM

you can reverse your diabetic by taking chromium and doing keto diet, chromium you can buy at most pharmacy.

if you trust your doctor more, then its your business

supplement

so combined with the earlier advice, dont eat rice, become cant eat anything other than vegetables and plain water?

Eat complex, healthier carbs (ie brown rice instead of white ride) and cut down on carbs in general. No sugary drinks, do more exercise and sugar levels will improve.

I'm Type 1 unfortunately so all those help but still need to inject for every meal!

chromium?

i have been watching Dr Jason Fung for a few days now. I am actually trying to fit in keto diet now. it has been a week.
but it's quite challenging and the learning curve is quite steep. not quite sure how or when and not sure whether i am doing it right.
maybe i am not achieving any ketones at all. the fat do scares me a lot.
maybe i don't need to incorporate so much fat as what they said because i still have glucose and fat to burn from my body.
i also wanna try intermittent fasting but i do not know how to do it when i need to eat metformin.

today i watch Dr Jason's videos from youtube, maybe i need to fast first then only slowly adapting keto diet? omg i am a mess.
but 1 week no rice and sugar already. no carbs. but i think i made a booboo by eating dong fen soup the other day.

i am still doing research. please explain more. i want to know how to adapt to keto while under metformin & incorporate fasting. like 24 hour fasting. thanks.

This post has been edited by JeweL_: Jan 21 2017, 10:12 PM

can share your story about how u found out and how it affects you please?

I was around 21 if I remember correctly - initial symptoms were thirsty all the time, peeing far too frequently and eyesight going blurry, tingling in hands and feet.

Went to the doctor and they didn't think I was diabetic for whatever reason but blood test came back with very high sugar reading - in the high 30s.

After that spent a day on insulin drip in hospital and have been on insulin ever since.

As a type 1 to be honest I don't follow the strictest diet as I can inject to compensate if I eat anything with more carbs. Most difficult is when travelling overseas and all the food is different and always on the move. Oh and running out of insulin overseas is a pain, easy in Malaysia as you can just pick it up in any pharmacy

Based on your experience or family members..?

I think you need to change your mindset . Don't listen to your local doctors too much . Be more open minded . Do your own research . There are thousands of people with Type 1 diabetes who get healed . You can start watching Youtube videos by top health experts like Dr Lorraine Day , Dr Neil Barnard and Dr John Mcdougall , just to name a few . These doctors have heal thousands of chronic patients . But it starts with you , you must be willing to change . If you have no desire to change , nothing much anyone can do about it .


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Since when I said don't eat rice . Other ppl have their own opinion . I stick to many top health experts ie to stop eating all animals products and to consume only plant based diet . I was really sick in the past like chronic foot pain , knee pain , back pain , chronic cough but now I am much more healthier since I started a plant based diet . If you want to keep eating what you want to eat , that's your business .

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try this;

Food for Abs

I think the price is reasonable for someone who don't have time to prepare or don't know how to..

there is no cure for type 1 diabetes

do not mislead people

better to trust local doctors than to "do own research on youtube"

the doctor is accountable to his words and treatment

youtube videos do not

This.

Plus I was diagnosed overseas (UK) and visit variety of doctors both private and government in Europe, not one of them believes there's a cure for T1

I remember him coming out with the same stuff in a similar thread recently

This post has been edited by rjb123: Jan 22 2017, 09:27 AM

charcoal may reduce the absorption of other drugs, so it is safer to take apart from other meds