In MGH, we are allowed to do many procedures, even delivery. But need to establish good rapport with the houseman and nurses lar.
In IMU, each student must perform 5 deliveries before graduate.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 16 2008, 01:18 AM

Ur in UKM which puts u under zone A. Supposedly dalam bandar, so living expenses high, so ur JPA lagi banyak. Here in Kuantan..a zone B area, we are assumed to have lower living expenses hence less scholarship. We also have to travel ALOT to and fro to HTAA which costs us soo much money every month for fuel. We have a crappy cafe that by the time we actually do get back from our 8-5 at the ward, the foods all cleared out. This forces us to eat outside which is sooo expensive cause in Kuantan its just the same if we makan nasi goreng and teh ais and a large Mc Donalds meal! We get more than 2k less than what u get and the standard of living here in Kuantan is almost the same as KL..

I think its unfair that we get about the same as students from other courses cause unlike med students they dont have to travel to HTAA and they have holidays totalling to almost half a year when they can leech of their parents.

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Added on August 16, 2008, 1:37 am5 Deliveries??? OMG Lucky you man!! We at UIA have to do 15 before grad and we have to compete with nursing student midwives (NSM) who have to do 30 deliveries and u can rest assure that they wont give up a case to u that easily...many occasions med students end up crying cause they stay up one whole night waiting for the patient to begin second stage of labour only for the NSMs to snatch it from the student just when the head is about to come out. Seriously...the labour room drama in UIA beats the bold and the beautiful any day...


This post has been edited by crusnik02: Aug 16 2008, 01:37 AM

im currently posted in surgical ward..there is one dr called dr king ban siang (if i remember properly), he is from aimst..
to me , i think he is doing fine from what i observed la..
havent talk to him before..

in my opinion, its really up to the individual him/herself..
just be hardworking when u are posted in wards..
dun waste time and practise ur skills on patient..
skills (communication and examination)...communication is very important..

like hypermax has said, built rapport with the people ard u..
much easier to do things ard..
just dun piss them off..

eh, it's Dr King arr?? haha.
Oh ya, doctor Kong is the lenglui doctor from our college.

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Added on August 16, 2008, 10:46 amWow, that's alot man. So you guys will be experts in obstetrics by the time you graduate.
Btw, hate the smell of labour room (urine+faeces+blood+amniotic fluid)

This post has been edited by hypermax: Aug 16 2008, 10:46 AM

Hmm, am not sure about how many deliveries we have to do before graduating but what i've heard is that we're allowed to do so too. Currently that's what i heard from the clinical students. Exposure is really important i guess. But most of the time medical students only assist HO and MO i heard.

Dr. King! I know that guy, still got his powerpoint presentation on his elective posting in Hospital Batu Pahat with me. LOL. Try asking if his previous ID number was 0200101. He'll be shocked.

And thanks for the advices, guys. Oops, seniors i should say. Haha. =)

smells like salted fish...

FYI, another university has submitted the application to build its own hospital and its already in building progress.

which Uni arr??

IPTA or IPTS? Cause it seems impossible for an IPTS to build their own hospitals as there are many factors that needs to be considered. And most of the cost has to be borne by themselves. The MMC accrediting team was telling us so far no uni has applied to them, yet. Probably they're just bluffing us. Lol.

wow...
having their own teaching hospital..
really convenient le!!

wow csrulez, u really know dr king ar!!u even remember his student number!!hehe

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Added on August 16, 2008, 12:50 pmwow...
having their own teaching hospital..
really convenient le!!

wow csrulez, u really know dr king ar!!u even remember his student number!!hehe

This post has been edited by munsheng: Aug 16 2008, 12:50 PM

I thought that under the 9th malaysian plan cannot build new hospital..only can upgrade existing ones. UIA was sposed to have its own hosp to be ready by 2010..instead we are stuck being bulied at HTAA..haha.

are they referring to semi-privatizing a government hospital?

how's that gona happen? who's gona sign their paychecks? haha.
Medical school having its own teaching hospital has been the idea of Ministry of Education. But Ministry of Health always talk them out of it

juz like what HUKM and UMMC have been doing these years lor...

But i think its a pretty good idea cause better have one good hospital rather than 10 crappy ones..

Yup, our first batch of seniors u see. Lol. If i've not mistaken there are 2 more doctors from AIMST in MGH. Dr. Ng Chin Hui and another indian doctor. Not sure where they are posted though.

Hospital takes up lots of budget each year, and i guess it is impossible for a private medical university to bear all the costs. UNLESS, the government is willing to subsidize it. Impossible though. So far we've got a dental hospital here at AIMST which will be opened officially tomoro. As far as i've heard it's somehow like a private dental hospitals which provide various dental services for outsiders and our own students, at the same time to train our own dental students as well. Lower budget if compared to setting up our own medical hospital. Equipments, labs, nurses, OTs, beds etc etc. Money money money.

AFAIK UCSI is going to build (or already building) their own hospital in Spring Hill, seremban its supposed to have 500 beds capacity. Also there are other insider info that are not supposed to be leak out and only few people know.

there are very good medical-legal reasons why teaching hospitals are always public funded hospitals.........and why people going to private hospitals will NOT want med students to experiment on them.....

training hospitals will generally be public funded, and a condition of admission for treatment is the understanding that they cannot determine who treats them, and they can and will be used in teaching of students, and in return they receive heavily subsidised care.......this is the case in both the university hospital, and the moh hospital settings........

on the other hand, if one elects to pay fully for his treatment, he will want to choose his doctors (obviously someone senior and whom one trusts), want to have absolute privacy, and do NOT want any medical students at all......

therefore, it is NOT possible, in the well defined dichotomous way public and private healthcare is delivered in msia, for private hospitals in it's present form to be teaching hospitals.......

even in systems where the public/private divide is blurred, a patient who opted for the private category in the same hospital can choose not to entertain medical students.......

seriously, you all talk about deliveries, which is the HIGHEST MEDICO_LEGAL RISK of all medical disciplines, would you want your/your wife/your sister etc to be experimented upon by students??

Very true indeed. Why did i never thought of patient's autonomy in choosing their doctors at private hospitals. Therefore is it impossble to establish a private teaching hospital in Malaysia? Was wondering if UCSI's hospital is funded by the government.

Anyhow, i think med students are allowed to conduct deliveries under close supervision of MOs or specialists in almost every teaching hospitals?

Ahahaha...changing topic again..
In view of the Olympics and our impending 1st ever gold medal from Lee Chong Wei..I was reading thru the memoirs of Dr Oon Chong Teik, one of the previous badminton greats of Malaysia and I think u guys should read it too. I mean the guy is like not human!! In a good way of course. Hebat gila!
Most of my classmates are great football and badminton players but they choose not to represent the country to focus on their studies and sometimes I wonder how the malaysian sports scene would be like if these people didn't have to choose between a career or the sports they r good at. So...read and be inspired!!

http://viweb.freehosting.net/OonCT.htm