i read in papers that MMMC is not recognized by india already, and malaysia may follow suit later
how the MMMC students generally respond to this?

yup, because MMMC is a Malaysian degree.

Also, both KMC manglore and manipal are still recognized. Check out the entries in IMED. The graduation years are still current.

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Hypermax, MGH is the teaching hospital for MMMC, how is it possible that the MOs and specialists "look down" on the students wo..?

Eh, not really lar. Dr Nicholas from OnG was very nice what. 

Only those nerdy looking fellas who got scolded by specialists because they cannot answer the questions whichwe can. 

gosh, they must have been living in their own tiny world all this while..
I don't care where they graduate from, it's a no-no for me to look down on ppl..
.and they are called doctors..

lol.. i kinda wonderign myself..
do doctors teaching in other uni in msia do shout bad words to their students in the wards? take the student's notes and throw to their faces in fornt of patients? got such thing ah?

eh, it's Dr King arr?? haha. 
Oh ya, doctor Kong is the lenglui doctor from our college.   

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Added on August 16, 2008, 10:46 am
Wow, that's alot man. So you guys will be experts in obstetrics by the time you graduate. 
Btw, hate the smell of labour room (urine+faeces+blood+amniotic fluid) 

I thought that under the 9th malaysian plan cannot build new hospital..only can upgrade existing ones. UIA was sposed to have its own hosp to be ready by 2010..instead we are stuck being bulied at HTAA..haha.

how's that gona happen? who's gona sign their paychecks? haha.
Medical school having its own teaching hospital has been the idea of Ministry of Education. But Ministry of Health always talk them out of it

there are very good medical-legal reasons why teaching hospitals are always public funded hospitals.........and why people going to private hospitals will NOT want med students to experiment on them.....

training hospitals will generally be public funded, and a condition of admission for treatment is the understanding that they cannot determine who treats them, and they can and will be used in teaching of students, and in return they receive heavily subsidised care.......this is the case in both the university hospital, and the moh hospital settings........

on the other hand, if one elects to pay fully for his treatment, he will want to choose his doctors (obviously someone senior and whom one trusts), want to have absolute privacy, and do NOT want any medical students at all......

therefore, it is NOT possible, in the well defined dichotomous way public and private healthcare is delivered in msia, for private hospitals in it's present form to be teaching hospitals.......

even in systems where the public/private divide is blurred, a patient who opted for the private category in the same hospital can choose not to entertain medical students.......

seriously, you all talk about deliveries, which is the HIGHEST MEDICO_LEGAL RISK of all medical disciplines, would you want your/your wife/your sister etc to be experimented upon by students??

Very true indeed. Why did i never thought of patient's autonomy in choosing their doctors at private hospitals. Therefore is it impossble to establish a private teaching hospital in Malaysia? Was wondering if UCSI's hospital is funded by the government.

Anyhow, i think med students are allowed to conduct deliveries under close supervision of MOs or specialists in almost every teaching hospitals?

But here in Malaysia, some patients seem to think that they have no choice but to get procedures done on them by students. Some cunning and kiasu students even go as far as to withold the fact that they are students to get procedures..the kind yang "alah...just dont tel him that ur a student lah..mesti bagi punya". God..those kind of ppl just make me sick. Those are the kind of students who look down on their peers who refuse to use sick patients as guniea pigs, questioning our interest in doing medicine. Cuba satu hari nanti kena kat dia..

Another thing that irks me about my own peers is that some just dont know when to stop. Especially when performing venous cannulations. Even when the patient is squirming after 3 failed attempts, they just keep going on. Another is when an interesting patient comes into the ward...in severe pain and very tired. Everyone in the posting wants to examine and clerk the patient despite the fact that the patient is like begging to be left alone. I think that its selfish..

Actually specialists and MOs are too busy to supervise med students. Generally nurses do it. Staff nurses or midwives.

Money? Dont think so. When we grad, we start with the U41 gaji right then we keep going up. If u take up rare specialities u rise thru the ranks faster thus ur scheme gaji also naik cepat. My forensics lecturer makes more than my senior senior specialist I.M lecturer.

True true...Theres only ONE intensivist in HTAA, Kuantan and I think he does ALL the work for east coast..poor chap.