Hello guys.. I'm really really interested in doing medic. I'd just finished Monash University Foundation Year(MUFY).

My first choice of university is Monash. However, I did not pass the MBBS interview. I'd sent an appeal letter to the uni and they said they will reply me after considering my final results.

When I got back my results, my results was like this:
Physic - 81
Biology - 90
Math - 92
Chemistry - 85
English - 81

The minimum requirement for the university is 360 marks (total of top 4 subjects + 10% of fifth subject).
And i got 357 marks.
I doubt appeal letters are going to save me.
All i can do now is cross my fingers and hope they will take me. Come on, I'm taking their foundation course!! xP
Okay i know i'm dreaming.
By the way, I also applied for IMU (PMS).
And this morning when I received the conditional offer letter, I was devastated when the minimum grade on the letter was 91% aggregate, instead of 80% like what they have stated on the course booklet thingy(my average for top 4 subjects are 87.25).

But seconds ago my friend told me that, for MUFY, IMU calculates the aggregate marks like this(quite different from the way Monash calculates it):
(total of top 4 subjects divide by 4) + (10% of fifth subject)

Which means, instead of 87, my aggregate for IMU will be 95.

So, my question is, can anybody confirm about the above information? The way IMU calculates my aggregate i mean.

I'm planning to call IMU to confirm this, but my dad said the line will only be open on monday, during office hours.
I'm soooooooooo nervous and I don't think I can sleep well before I know the answer.
And if, IF, "dai gat lai si" I cant get into IMU, at this kind of time, which university can i consider? (well.. with results like mine.. sigh.. =/ .. I wish I'd studied harder..)
I think application for AIMST is closed already.
How about Manipal? The closing date is on the end of february 2008 right?
Does Manipal require an interview also? (have to travel all the way from kl to melaka, if an interview is required =.='')

Thank you for your time.. I really appreciate it xD!!
Thanks a lot for your help..  I hope my the way I explain things was understandable..

you are all very confused about the actual marks you get and the TER scores....you actual marks does NOT equal the ter score, the ter is a percentile score, ie you relative position amongst ALL the year 12 students in oz and other countries sitting for one of oz year 12 programmes......

that means, if you take a difficult subject, the paper was difficult and you get 60 marks....and that is the highest, your ter will be high in the 99's......

on the other hand, if it is an easy subject and paper, you get 95 marks, but many people got 100 and 99 marks, your ter may be 80 only........

mufy should have a system of converting the raw marks into a indicative ter score.....

as for the nominal ter 80 cut off for imu, that is too low, and except for the early years, the cut off should be above 90, it was about 94 last year, and lowered to 91 this year.....

if cost is a consideration, why didn't you do the imu local programme? don't be fooled, monash mbbs is a msian qualification, not oz....

oh? ^^ but 85 is hard >.< hopefully i can manage 80, or better, get into medic in aus.

Well, you can loan up to 150K from PTPTN now. It has been increased a year ago. =))

Annnddd, i hate biochemistry! freaking lotsa stuffs to memorize. BTW any of u guys here took epidemiology and anthropology during the 1st yer of your course? I find my course curriculum to be unique cos normally other med school will only start it during the clinical years. sigh, added stress.

variability..........that is what you are saying.........what i am saying is, why do we not cut down the variability, like countries like oz and uk.........by making sure all candidates accepted are the best from the pool...........

Yes, there shall be balance of EQ n IQ. However, it is not so easy to assess EQ compare to assess IQ because IQ can just simply take from how many score u have. However, not all those high grade does really have high IQ because u know a lot of us just do memorize more rather understanding. Still, i believe there shall be kuota for male n female. My batch was so many girl, that sometimes we have to listen them althought their idea is just simply rubbish. Majority win, huh..?

Melbourne is unique in oz, as the one which rely purely on ter scores in selection, so most of the students actually have ter above 99.75........the other oz undergraduate med schools rely on a combination of applitude test scores (umat, isat pqa), interview, and ter......and generally, the vast majority of selected students will have a ter above 95...........

http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/03/23/pli...lars/#more-1107

This is for those insterested in medic.

I'll say this upfront: I'm not a medical student. But if you can't tell what Limeuu is from his postings, you really need to read more between the lines.

Still, I'll give him a hand this time:

IF he is a medical student or doctor, why not just admit it openly instead of giving "hints" through his posts and let people play the guessing game?
If you are a medical student/doctor, why not just admit it?? So are you  or are you not? This question is important as i see no point in debating with someone who is not in the medical field.

Is it logical for patients to lie about their conditions when they are ill?? Do they not want to receive proper treatment?? They might lie about other things (monthly income), but certainly, not their conditions. Unless the patients are suffering from Munchausen's syndrome.

hey guys just asking, can i enter the medical programme at imu if i do asasi programs at local iptas such as um, uiam and uitm? cuz i just called and they said they do accept. just wanna double check

still doing pbl at 2am now
act referring prof robinson folder from i drive
for those who studying in medical schools which have PBL, how do u think of PBL?

dat's true, eventhough the traditional system is dry, but it equips us with the impt concepts medstudents nid to know. somehow PBL might lead u into extensive findings which r quite irrrelevant for a medstudent, to satisfy the desire to understand the whole area of a certain subject, without grasping the again, impt concepts.

(i just saw this post )

you have a pretty light load...

i'm a second year medic, and apparently this year is supposed to be hell for us..

basically, i have 12 hours of lectures; 4 hours of supervisions (i.e. tutorials); 5-8 hours of practicals (depending on the week..).. so some days i have a solid 9-5 (with an hour break for lunch).. (not to mention the fact that everyone does extra stuff e.g. sports and drama.. so u'll be pressured to join in..  hehe..)e.g., on wednesdays i have 9-2; 3-4; 6-7 and 8-10..

i supposed this is where there is a difference between pbl and traditional system. in pbl u research the topic, and although the amount of reading needed is a lot, it probably can't beat being taught by a person who specializes in the field.. in traditional system, we basically have 12 solid hours worth (each lecture lasting an hour) of teaching and information to digest.. and in practicals (especially our path practicals) we sometimes learn new things, like gram staining and microscope stuff..

but as for the understanding tu.. i think old doctors are just pulling ur leg.. waktu their time, most of the stuff weren't discovered yet, and (for biochem, i think) they have great big holes where they don't know how things work.. haha...

It also depends on the intake. Certain intakes, not enough students so they will accept you even though you fail your interview. Happened to ME108 batch at IMU (around 100 people rejected their offer). Remember if you did not get accepted, always call them up again, if many people reject their offer, you can get a place even though you screwed your interview. I also know some JPA students whose result only scrape through TER 88-90 and they had their interview 1 week before the registration day, this tuesday interview, next monday registration.

well there's griffith as well. bond does it with more semesters in a year, unlike other unis that have crazy 2 or 3 month breaks we get about 3 weeks in between sems. i finished a previous degree, incl. honours, in 3 yrs. contrary to popular belief, it doesnt feel that hectic or intensive at all.

man, i should get paid for this.

what do you do, limeuu?

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Added on April 24, 2008, 6:57 ami've got another question for you guys-
when you accepted your offer for a place, did the uni give you a whole stack of forms to fill? Mostly regarding immunization schedules, to be filled in by your GP? Criminal health checks? Privacy act agreements? Anything of the sort?

true, but what about admitting someone that young? considering how tough studying medicine can get, and how long it actually takes, i wonder how 17 year olds make such a huge decision, at that age. i mean seriously, 4 years down the line you change your mind and go 'ah crap, i really don't think i wanna be a doctor', you drop out and you're... nowhere? 

at 23 or whatever age- do they know that it gets tougher? that graduating doesn't mean it's over and you can settle in comfortably in a job? 

most importantly, do they realise that all social gatherings from here on end will involve lots of champagne and conversations beginning with  "oh doctor? i have this pain/ache/lesion/ulcer/discharge...."

p.s: limeuu- you wouldn't happen to be single and cute.. ? 

it's a good business model, let you in, collect your fees, let you try, and then flunk you out......

yeah everyone i know received BBC offer but will vary depending on the intake.

yeah, well if you have the desire to study medicine, i doubt one would fail, cause its a natural taking in process, just for example games, if you like video games, reading bout it will instantly stay in your mindset and stored away for memory.

and yes, russian/indo/india/ ukraine intakes are crazy...

hi guys....

sorry to interrupt but im no medic student but im an engineering student just want to ask something.............................

I love the show HOUSE MD.......       and is it really the life of doctors are like that.... you know, solving tricky diagnosis and cases....

i really liked the way they do their work... how i wish engineering also like that...

please help ....