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post Sep 2 2021, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Sep 2 2021, 03:11 PM)
R u moving the fund via IBFT?

I try to move fund from other bank to Affin Bank, keep showing unsuccessful, wonder is it affin bank duitnow koyak, try from Ocbc and Scb also failed
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Duitnow instant transfer from BR and OCBC SA to Affin SA. Didn't face any problem. Around noon.
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post Sep 2 2021, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 2 2021, 03:13 PM)
Duitnow instant transfer from BR and OCBC SA to Affin SA. Didn't face any problem. Around noon.
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just try again and manage to transfer now...

But, I've another issue when placing the FD, it shown error that Transaction not allowed for this branch.

It seem that only islamic saving acc can enjoy the islamic FD promo... My saving acc is conventional... doh.gif
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post Sep 2 2021, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Sep 2 2021, 03:28 PM)
just try again and manage to transfer now...

But, I've another issue when placing the FD, it shown error that Transaction not allowed for this branch.

It seem that only islamic saving acc can enjoy the islamic FD promo... My saving acc is conventional...  doh.gif
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Maybe they set it such way? I did conventional FD, conventional SA
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post Sep 2 2021, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 2 2021, 03:29 PM)
Maybe they set it such way? I did conventional FD, conventional SA
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ooic, i just notice that conventional also have this promo... silly me go n choose the EFD<=12M option instead of EFDPROMO
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post Sep 2 2021, 04:37 PM

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post Sep 2 2021, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(mrhseinpingq @ Sep 2 2021, 05:37 PM)
RHB FD promotion ended
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post Sep 2 2021, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Sep 2 2021, 10:43 AM)
Hi guys, just want to confirm on HLBB TIA-i calculation.
I chat with them and got my refund for the shortage of profit amount.

Promo rate: 2.45% p.a
Tenure: 6 months

Principal: RM 5k
Placement tenure: 17.02.21 - 17.08.21
Total profit received RM59.50 + RM1.24 = RM60.74

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Does the amount that I received is still not based on the promo rate?
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Your FD is similiar to the earlier calculation few posts above.

2.40% you will get 59.50684932
2.45% you will get 60.74657534

So, it looks like HLBB has erred in first calculation by giving you 2.40%, then add back the missing 1.239726027 for the 0.05%
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Sep 2 2021, 07:53 PM)
Your FD is similiar to the earlier calculation few posts above.

2.40% you will get 59.50684932
2.45% you will get 60.74657534

So, it looks like HLBB has erred in first calculation by giving you 2.40%, then add back the missing 1.239726027 for the 0.05%
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Just to confirm when calculate the effective rate for FD/TIA-i, we are using the formula below
(publish rate in p.a / 365 x number of tenure in calendar day

For my case,
(2.45/365) x 182 days = 1.221%
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Sep 2 2021, 07:31 PM)
Just to confirm when calculate the effective rate for FD/TIA-i, we are using the formula below
(publish rate in p.a / 365 x number of tenure in calendar day

For my case,
(2.45/365) x 182 days = 1.221%
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181 days only, not 182

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Sep 2 2021, 02:14 PM)
What is the current promo as there is no info on its website.

Seem like no saving account able to open online without visit to their branch. Just to confirm.
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ya very low key.

the rate are shown in the efd website (and have quite some numbers of line items which some dont have good rates).

for the past year i think rarely got more than a weke or two withoimut promo.

ya you can open a bsa but at branch. may be some officer can come out to meet u for ic verification.
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post Sep 3 2021, 01:48 PM

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Promotion | Enjoy 3% p.a. for 1-month FD/FD-i with your bank account


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Promotion | Fixed Deposit Bundle Current/ Savings Account
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post Sep 3 2021, 02:27 PM

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Citibank

Fresh Fund Casa bonus campaign earmark for 3mths, 3%p.a.

FD 2.5% for 12m. (this one can be old fund).

Don't know if got min amount.
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Received this WA and I read in the previous pages on HLB's version. Has anyone invested for CIMB? Any comments if this is better / guaranteed returns compared to the efd which currently stands at 2.15% for 12 months.

CIMB Campaign Period : 1 Sept - 31 Oct 2021

Indicative Rate 2.40 % p.a. (6 mth) & 2.55% p.a. (12 mth)

Required Conditions
✅Fresh or Existing fund. Customers must have CASA/-i
for auto profit crediting.


✅This campaign offer will auto renew to prevailing
board rate after maturity.



*T&C apply.
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Sep 2 2021, 09:47 AM)
Can I open an account with Bank Mualamat online without going to the branch?
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Cannot. They need to do verification with your physical IC and thumbprint. Just opened my account this morning. Rm100 and minimum balance rm20 needed. Can do e-fd later via Bank Muamalat internet banking.
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Sep 2 2021, 10:43 AM)
Hi guys, just want to confirm on HLBB TIA-i calculation.
I chat with them and got my refund for the shortage of profit amount.

Promo rate: 2.45% p.a
Tenure: 6 months

Principal: RM 5k
Placement tenure: 17.02.21 - 17.08.21
Total profit received RM59.50 + RM1.24 = RM60.74

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Does the amount that I received is still not based on the promo rate?
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You do not know and understand the meaning of the term Maturity Date and as a direct result you do not know how to count the number of days involved for FD calculation of interest.

In Malaysia, Maturity Date is the day AFTER the full term/tenor is COMPLETED. After completion only is the customer eligible to get the interest/profit. This usual statement in financial or investment guides is not very helpful by itself without explanation and has naturally given rise to ambiguity due to its lack of precision and understandable teaching communication for those not familiar or working in such matters. It is like giving some idiom or some esoteric phrase in Tao or kungfu or an essay or debate topic and somehow the student suddenly understands all the intricacies and variations and exceptions at once without thought, questioning, experiment, practice on accurate examples. Spoonfeeding, copy and paste and blind application without analysis of assumptions and different conditions/situations and research of possibilities can only give halfbaked results and matters are not helped by bad questions.

The proper question is - When is the full tenor completed? Precisely this is when the tenor ends at midnite of the last tenor day and the next day begins as Maturity Day. Suppose an eFD is placed on 1 January. When does the year end for a year tenor? When it reaches midnite and becomes 1st January instead. Practically, the change may be seen in your internet banking account shortly after midnite rollover OR around a specified creditting time which may be mentioned in the T&C like 6 am etc on Maturity Date (on 1st January if the system is set to work then in this example). So in your case, you had 182 days because what you did was to treat Maturity Date as part of the tenor. The days for August was actually 16 and not 17 as the last tenor date was 16 August 2021 whilst the Maturity Date was 17 August.

However, for OTC FD and some eFD, they may still follow the old legacy method, where when the tenor ends on weekends and public holidays, interest at the original placement rate is maintained for the days till the first bank working day occurs. There are 2 ways usually practiced in Malaysia. The first way is that the tenor ends and interest is creditted backwards and another extra interest is given for extra days. The second way is that the interest is calculated and paid till the adjusted tenor ending and creditted on the adjusted Maturity Date. For those keeping precise records and observing the results, it can be seen that there are cases where the total amount received using the first and the second ways can have some small difference due to technical method. Therefore, it is not precisely correct actually to say that it depends on the number of days, meaning the algebraic equation:-

I=PRTtotal is not always equal to I=PRTnominal + PRTextra.

It is only coincidental if they happen to be the same due to the values of P, R or T used coincidentally or by optimized design by the FD placer, and is affected by the various rounding ways used. Usually people are creatures of habit and slaves of their environment, education and incapable of throwing off their baggage and improve when notice that old method/thinking/worldview is not actually real or effective or efficient.

There are also banks that will not give the extra days interest automatically and need to complain/request for the difference. Usually this is not backdated creditted, so the delay actually means some loss to the FD customer especially if big sums involved.

The number of IBD can be simply viewed as the number of midnites from Effective Date to Maturity Date. Maturity Date had been explained in the previous para. What we need to be careful is to note that the Effective Date does not always happen to be the same as the Placement Date when the FD placement was made, and can be later. The usual problem here is the cut-off time for FD placement at the bank OTC, cheque clearance, or how the bank system treats eFD placement either instantly when placed from account, transfers or FPX or delayed due to some built in rule for when system can process (which may not be as fast as one thinks sometimes).

Effective Date is considered as 1 day as long as your placement occurs before the cut-off time before midnite even if for a few hours or minutes depending on how the different bank system works. This knowledge is vital if busy scraping and transferring in money from various sources to make it in time to place for a particular Effective Date.

It should be noted that Effective Dates can make quite significant differences in the interest/profit collected especially when it is practically applied to monthly, periodic or step type interest payments besides the usual Maturity Date situations. However, to apply this advantage you need to have knowledge or experience and time scenario spreadsheet designed to give you the answers beforehand in planning for the FD placement. There is a big difference/advantage between simply putting in at any arbitrary date and at selected date due to so called compounding effect over time. There are usual days and there are good and also bad days it is only whether you know or observe the effects and how to handle.

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post Sep 4 2021, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Sep 2 2021, 02:14 PM)
What is the current promo as there is no info on its website.

Seem like no saving account able to open online without visit to their branch. Just to confirm.
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Affin Bank has one of the worst bank account opening procedures....open a saving account need to fill up so many pages of form. I transfer money out of the country also no need so many forms.
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Sep 2 2021, 10:57 AM)
I notice that BR, BM, AB maybe others are consistently having promo on eFD higher than PBB and HLBB.

I only have MBB, RHB, PBB and HLBB. Which one worth to open an online saving account to get better eFD rate?

TIA.
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Currently HLB has the best offer curently at 2.4%. Previously bout one two months ago AmBank has very high rates at up to 2.7% for 18 mths. MBB is the worst, i just have it for the current account. I would say HLB, RHB has the highest rates usually while PBB have the 2.2%@ 3mths offer seems to be all year round. lol. Other banks depends on offer lor.
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Sep 2 2021, 10:47 AM)
Can I open an account with Bank Mualamat online without going to the branch?
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Don't think so. In fact, you must make an online appointment with them 1st (then wait for them to call you to confirm the appointment) in order to get your chance to open account. This is what I've been told by the staff when I go there straight after online appointment (without getting call from them), luckily I managed to open account and put FD after discussions on the same day.
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Just curious...is everybody active in this thread > 50 yrs old? Lol.
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Just curious...is everybody active in this thread > 50 yrs old? Lol.
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