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 How to decide the type of CCTV you need?, Security System - CCTV

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post Mar 15 2018, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Mar 15 2018, 09:54 PM)
Yes, all cctv now come with own app, except those OEM CCTV.
For example:
HIKVISION - IVMS-4500
DAHUA - gDMSS or iDMSS
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post Mar 16 2018, 09:37 PM

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So detailed thread. Learn a lot.

So basically for my house where I want 2 outdoor camera front, 1 or maybe 2 camera rear, 1 indoor camera. It would be best to get a network recorder with PoE support, so I just need to run 1 cable only instead of COAX+POWER.

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/productDetail/8291

Would something like that be sufficient? I am leaning towards Dahua for their camera's low light performance.

I'll be doing plaster ceiling, so I figure a lot of the cables can be concealed.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 16 2018, 09:37 PM)
So detailed thread. Learn a lot.

So basically for my house where I want 2 outdoor camera front, 1 or maybe 2 camera rear, 1 indoor camera. It would be best to get a network recorder with PoE support, so I just need to run 1 cable only instead of COAX+POWER.

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/productDetail/8291

Would something like that be sufficient? I am leaning towards Dahua for their camera's low light performance.

I'll be doing plaster ceiling, so I figure a lot of the cables can be concealed.
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POE is a good choice.
Anyhow, which camera model you are eyeing?
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post Mar 17 2018, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Mar 16 2018, 09:49 PM)
POE is a good choice.
Anyhow, which camera model you are eyeing?
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Considering the Dahua starlight 2MP turret for the front facing gate. But then it is very costly, maybe a more cost effective approach is to install motion detection flood lights, that way when the intruder comes in, the lights will activate and an average cam will be able to record it down.

As for the rear, need something that has good tripwire detection, that way even in the day i would know if someone climb in the rear of my house...

Feel free to give advice..this is just my thinking so far...

First floor house cam, is to look the front surrounding of the house
Ground floor cam is to aim at the gate/immediate front of the house
Rear of the house is to setup tripwire to be alerted in case people climb in. Thinking can put a motion detection flood light as well.

indoor, at the stairwell area upstairs, also for motion detection purpose alert. maybe helpful have speaker on the camera, then can alert the intruder outside my bedroom door to ask him run away, cops coming (haha watch too much movies)
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post Mar 17 2018, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 16 2018, 09:37 PM)
So detailed thread. Learn a lot.

So basically for my house where I want 2 outdoor camera front, 1 or maybe 2 camera rear, 1 indoor camera. It would be best to get a network recorder with PoE support, so I just need to run 1 cable only instead of COAX+POWER.

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/productDetail/8291

Would something like that be sufficient? I am leaning towards Dahua for their camera's low light performance.

I'll be doing plaster ceiling, so I figure a lot of the cables can be concealed.
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Are u going to lay the cable urself?
If yes, network cable is easier for u. Only IP System cost higher.

Else, u can ask wireman to lay the coax+power for u, then u can go for Dahua HDCVI or HIKVISION HDTVI, both system got LowLight version. System a lot cheaper than IP.

This post has been edited by idealhometech: Mar 17 2018, 08:44 AM
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post Mar 17 2018, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Mar 17 2018, 08:41 AM)
Are u going to lay the cable urself?
If yes, network cable is easier for u. Only IP System cost higher.

Else, u can ask wireman to lay the coax+power for u, then u can go for Dahua HDCVI or HIKVISION HDTVI, both system got LowLight version. System a lot cheaper than IP.
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No I am not going to DIY, as part of my renovation gonna get someone professional to install it.

Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s no reason to choose HDCVI systems over IP for a new install, other than cost, as it seems IP is the future and HDCVI is a format meant to allow existing analog systems to be “updated” without recalling.

What’s the price difference like between HDCVI vs IP? 1.5x? 2x?

https://www.security-camera-warehouse.com/k...ge-base/hd-sdi/

Good read. IP seems to be the way to go.

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post Mar 17 2018, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 17 2018, 10:32 AM)
No I am not going to DIY, as part of my renovation gonna get someone professional to install it.

Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s no reason to choose HDCVI systems over IP for a new install, other than cost, as it seems IP is the future and HDCVI is a format meant to allow existing analog systems to be “updated” without recalling.

What’s the price difference like between HDCVI vs IP? 1.5x? 2x?

https://www.security-camera-warehouse.com/k...ge-base/hd-sdi/

Good read. IP seems to be the way to go.
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HDCVI technology a bit slower than HDTVI..
Now HDTVI already got 4K resolution, up to 8MP.. Price a lot cheaper than IP 8MP.
This technology will not stop because of high demand.
TVI is develop by HIKVISION who is World No.1 Surveillance Manufacturer.

But if budget is not a issue, then sure IP is better. IP cam expensive because it not only capture and output image, it got own processor. Is like merging a camera and recorder into 1 box. That's why expensive.
If u need extra feature like video analytic, face recognition, AI, then must use IPCam.
Another reason why we use IP is, for large scale project. more than 16 cameras, long distance cabling, wireless....

If just record, view, remote access, u can go for analog (TVI or CVI), analog cam with built-in True WDR processor, Ultra Low Light sensor still a lot cheaper than IP.
The DVR still can handle normal video analysis like motion detection, line intrusion detection....

Below is the video about TVI 4.0


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IP Cam have this issue of latency.

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 19 2018, 12:00 PM)
IP Cam have this issue of latency.
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What kind of latency you are referring to?
Live view latency? Recording latency? Remote view latency?
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Mar 19 2018, 12:02 PM)
What kind of latency you are referring to?
Live view latency? Recording latency? Remote view latency?
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Live view latency.

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 19 2018, 01:41 PM)
Live view latency.
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My system Live view latency feels like 0.5 seconds, I am alright with it.
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Mar 19 2018, 01:42 PM)
My system Live view latency feels like 0.5 seconds, I am alright with it.
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Then we are good! biggrin.gif
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post Mar 20 2018, 03:48 PM

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Can we get RM350 IP camera with the following features:
(1) POE IPCam
(2) Bullet type
(3) 5MP @ 25fps
(4) Night vision
(5) 4X Optical Zoom
(6) 4mm-12mm lens
(7) Audio recording
(8) Support iOS & Android app
(9) Windows & Mac Client App
(10) Motion detection
(11) FTP recording
(12) Cloud recording
(13) E-mail notification
(14) Push notification

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post Mar 20 2018, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 20 2018, 03:48 PM)
Can we get RM350 IP camera with the following features:
(1) POE IPCam
(2) Bullet type
(3) 5MP @ 25fps
(4) Night vision
(5) 4X Optical Zoom
(6) 4mm-12mm lens
(7) Audio recording
(8) Support iOS & Android app
(9) Windows & Mac Client App
(10) Motion detection
(11) FTP recording
(12) Cloud recording
(13) E-mail notification
(14) Push notification
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LOL RM350 shakehead.gif

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at least RM750
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post Mar 20 2018, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Mar 20 2018, 04:32 PM)
LOL RM350  shakehead.gif

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at least RM750
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Wah, so expensive one ka???
Made In China leh this brand...
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post Mar 20 2018, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 20 2018, 04:52 PM)
Wah, so expensive one ka???
Made In China leh this brand...
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Yes, very expensive. 5MP still not commonly used here..
Don't look down on this China Brand, Dahua is World No.3 Surveillance System Manufacturer.
and World No.1 is HIKVISION, also China Brand.
No.2 is SONY.
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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 20 2018, 03:48 PM)
Can we get RM350 IP camera with the following features:
(1) POE IPCam
(2) Bullet type
(3) 5MP @ 25fps
(4) Night vision
(5) 4X Optical Zoom
(6) 4mm-12mm lens
(7) Audio recording
(8) Support iOS & Android app
(9) Windows & Mac Client App
(10) Motion detection
(11) FTP recording
(12) Cloud recording
(13) E-mail notification
(14) Push notification
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Not exactly 5mp (4mp), but close enough to that price range

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....ucket=14#detail

What's the main difference with bullet vs turret type?

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 20 2018, 04:52 PM)
Wah, so expensive one ka???
Made In China leh this brand...
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The top cameras are made in china like idealhometech mentioned. Hikvision & Dahua are quite famous brand
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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 20 2018, 03:48 PM)
Can we get RM350 IP camera with the following features:
(1) POE IPCam
(2) Bullet type
(3) 5MP @ 25fps
(4) Night vision
(5) 4X Optical Zoom
(6) 4mm-12mm lens
(7) Audio recording
(8) Support iOS & Android app
(9) Windows & Mac Client App
(10) Motion detection
(11) FTP recording
(12) Cloud recording
(13) E-mail notification
(14) Push notification
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No way RM350 to get this kind of spec for now.

This English firmware model around RM1k +-:

DS-2CD2655FWD-IZS
http://www.hikvision.com/en/Products_acces..._756_i6221.html

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=546409242459
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-free-sh...2836031039.html
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Wah, really all very expensive...think will stick to 1080p.

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