i dont know , just thinking what i can remember , owner only can tell what was the problem , i am not

what i intent to let him know was that dont expect a easy maintenance shall he want to buy that car

i have a Bezza , and perodua car are still Tin Kosong , yet it was reliable ( not know yet ) and easy to maintance

while Proton are like buying a BMW or Merc , it has high tech feature but same to those premium brand you need to pay more for repair.

If you spend 40k for a proton , and 40k for a perodua , dont expect the same maintenance price.

just to let people know what to expect when they buying these car , instead of just telling them all the good thing.

Proton car are better , just realiablity was weak.

One more point , problematic are ok if you have 2nd car , else taking leave and sending to SC yet need to argue with them

What perodua reliable.. my friend's axia, a manual at that, the clutch cable putus.. and the car is his 3rd car.. so not high mileage..

OTOH my suprima serve me very well even after almost 5 years and 130k km.. my iriz is at 48k km at 2 years... wear and tear maintenance parts is reasonable.. and och, wheel bearing, and engine mountings are wear and tear parts... not life long parts..

haha..anyways.. every car has its pros and cons. just pray that you didnt get a lemon unit.. otherwise gg. currently happily driving my preve.. and planned to change the flywheel and damper if it does improve the cvt performance.

ok. now.. i just chat with proton on facebook n after given all my details, they said my car is on the flywheel and damper recall but no more details on that. and was asking to check at sc for the pricing.

Hi guys.. i was intending to buy a Preve or even suprima s. Really Fed up with my current Vios 2014 with their never ending problems... Anyone can summarize for me is it worth jump into proton once again??

exactly! the d mode isnt responsive enough. oh well thats y the s mode is there or a manual mode. i have hope to someday find the right guy to work out the electronic aspect of the equation to swap in a manual box.

if anything, the vios should have less issues then our cars. may i ask what issues you been having with the vios?

Lower arm gave away.. this is the 3rd time and i heard it's an issue which can't be solve.. I've Have change top mounting once within my 1st week.
4 years owning it, i've changed 3 times of my lower arm including yesterday. No issues about engine and gearbox but this issue is very irritating when you go on un even roads

got any photo on the defect or fault? on the lower arm things. its it have bush like things to absorb shock?

If u think that is bad, the suprima is even worse, mounting will kaput every 30-40k km. Then u will have to face those issue that can make your car breakdown by the side of the road like OCH burst, wire harness melt and others. Better to stick to the vios

Apa susah.. masuk 4G63T je la... lots of Exora Bold already done it.. heheheh

i guess it also depends on your everyday route and what sorta millage you cover. when you say top mounting, are you referring to the shock mounts? or the engine/gearbox mounts? it is very odd to have them prematurely fail. back when i used to do this for a living i hardly ever see these cars for repair only general maintenance of wear and tear

nope, not planing on changing engine. As much as i can i want to keep the campro. im not craving for crazy power actually, just for a better drive. the CVT doesnt offer that. with a manual box, i should be able to get the engine to have better response and bump the power a lil bit, all while maintaining the ease of maintenance and all the safety equipment working and functioning.

Did they charge you for the CVT oil after changed CVT damper? I was told the CVT oil not included. Only free 1 litre.

If u around kl, can try MBO..

They only have to replace 1 litre of fluid for the recall. According to the foreman i was talking they reuse the previous oil

Yes, but there is a trick. The oil must not be changed more than 3 months. Mine just changed 6 months ago.
If reuse, the container is clean and not polluted with any dirt? Just to ensure gearbox will not have problem after warranty.

That was my concern too. I went to have my CVT serviced for the second time outside instead at EA Autoworks a day after the damper recall was completed. If you don't feel comfortable, get the oil changed. If you do it outside, make sure they use genuine Proton CVT fluid. If you don't plan on using original CVT fluid, ensure that the fluid you are getting is compatible with Punch's CVT, and that the colour is similar so it won't be detected by the service centre visually. I went with Rock Oil CVT fluid from EA Autoworks since it's supposed to be better than proton's CVT fluid.

Engine top mounting bro.. This was diagnosed by the Technician himself and he said this is common in NCP 150 vios

MBO is to gain a sharper response and slight improvement in power. im looking for a manual conversion which allows for better control of the car