hi there, let me see if i can help you as i was in the same situation as yourself.

1) fuel consumption depends on your right foot, of course a vios would give you a better milage as it is a EEV vechicle.

2) yes and no, i have owned a performance engine back in the early days and it get tell you the suprima is not the kinda of car you want to go chasing 0 to 100 times.
however with that been said, it is designed to get you moving. the boost comes in and then it bleeds off as once you are moving at a good enough speed it tapers off.

3) to answer this is again a yes and no. all depends what you are looking for. for the price in the used car market, there are tons of options. for fancy bells and whistles Kia and hyundai have loads to offer, or you could even get an inspira for the price.

To answer the biggest question of them all, Y buy a suprima? for me, i am a driving enthusiast. no other car in that price range (used car) can give me a car that handles very well, and has just the right amount of pulling power around the twisties and it is a 1.6l so yearly renewals wouldnt be too high. The car needs to be babied, if you are not familiar with car care you are better off with a vios. which will give you, good fc, reliability, value and etc.

the CVT damper is it a recall? or an option for us to pay for the current one to be replaced?

Thanks guys on the info on the CVT damper. hopefully i get the call, as i last check mine at the center and it is not mentioned to have been part of the recall.

Simonde, when i was searching for mine i did tons of research. If the ad is true, you can try to ask them if you can take it to a sc to verify the history. I do not trust used car dealers. and if it is genuine 1k millage i would still suggest you have some money set a side to have the fluids changed soon as you get it. this will include the CVT oil. although it is only 1k millage sometimes these used car will "service" it for you and who knows what goes in. Also check the tires, they are notorious for cracking. check the inner sidewall. Next thing is to look at the fusebox, it should have the updated one and not the made in china ones which the earlier models had. also have a look at the cooler hoses, i cant imagine them being an issue at 1k km but worth a look. Once you managed to convince the dealer to have it taken to the SC get them to run a diagnostic to ensure no errors in the memory.

Lastly do note that the car is not exactly economical to maintain. Parts are not cheap (original), and the you need to alter your driving habits to ensure you ease in the throttle on take off to avoid prematurely wearing out the gearbox. Apart from that is always invest in good quality oil, as like all turbo cars the engine oil is shared with the turbo unit. cheapo oils could lead to sludge and eventually destruction to the turbo unit due to a clogged oil feed/return or worst prematurely bursting the oil cooler hoses, which would lead to a potential rebuild.

Since we are done with the negatives, lets talk about why i love the car. I am a driving enthusiast with a very small wallet. no car within this price range give you this amount of driving fun on the twisties (only a manual version could make this car more fun). As for the power, its not big on it however the torque comes in pretty early so thats a plus. The ride typical proton ride and handling, firm enough but still pretty comfortable for a daily drive ( some will disagree with me) The chassis is pretty decent, not to mention the safety aids. The huge plus about the ESP is it is not as intrusive as most systems. it allows for some spirited driving without cutting you off early on. Boot space is decent enough for a hatchback. I dare say compared to a preve this is a better boot as the boot entrance is very tiny on a preve. The rest of the info can be obtained on the brochure

All in all if you are the type that spends money on preventative maintenance this is definitely a decent car, although it has a dated engine with high fuel consumption. btw expect to get about 8 to 9km/l unless you spend alot of time on the highway this is the rough average of conservative city driving.

Hope i managed to shed some light on you potential Suprima purchase. All the best

bro, what is the issue with your rack? im curious, because i have been trying to diagnose a problem with my car. im almost looking at the rack being part of the issue. internally seems to have freeplay. not the tie rod and tie rod end, but the rack it self seems to have some free play. just curious what issues you have with yours. recently i was looking at a 2017 suprima, the rack colour is different, wonder if its a new improved unit or it is just the colour.

Thanks for the information

hi bro, based on my research get the latest model possible. i bought a second hand unit as well. i got a 2016 unit. They seem to have changed a few things in the 2016 models from the fuse box to fan socket and etc. as far as the engine mounts is concern it i have replaced mine before with original proton unit, vibration still felt if u lug the turbo. i hate lugging the turbo but in D mode it tends to do that instead of giving more revs. perhaps aftermarket mounts may be better.as far as the general car is concern to be proactive with the maintenance and you should be fine. alot of people pick preve because they feel it has a larger bot space, however the access into the boot is horrible, im sure a couple of people would have hit their head on the boot opening. all the best in your hunt and make sure u have a emergency car fund always on standby and do look for a well maintained unit as i know alot of people spend on the looks of the car and very lil on the actual care of the engine, suspension and etc.

Well you know how it is in D mode. unless you mash the throttle its not gonna give you enough revs for proper boost to come in. of course in other drive modes it is fine. so when you dont mash the throttle it tries to give you some boost but at now enough revs ie 2k revs. that will be lugging the turbo

exactly! the d mode isnt responsive enough. oh well thats y the s mode is there or a manual mode. i have hope to someday find the right guy to work out the electronic aspect of the equation to swap in a manual box.

if anything, the vios should have less issues then our cars. may i ask what issues you been having with the vios?

i guess it also depends on your everyday route and what sorta millage you cover. when you say top mounting, are you referring to the shock mounts? or the engine/gearbox mounts? it is very odd to have them prematurely fail. back when i used to do this for a living i hardly ever see these cars for repair only general maintenance of wear and tear

nope, not planing on changing engine. As much as i can i want to keep the campro. im not craving for crazy power actually, just for a better drive. the CVT doesnt offer that. with a manual box, i should be able to get the engine to have better response and bump the power a lil bit, all while maintaining the ease of maintenance and all the safety equipment working and functioning.

MBO is to gain a sharper response and slight improvement in power. im looking for a manual conversion which allows for better control of the car

ah okok could be an issue with the quality of the mounts. hope you managed to solve it. btw our cars are plagued with engine mount issues. most complain that they dont last.

Hi Bro, i am not sure if there is a 2018 model Suprima. Most places i seen them getting rid of 2017 models. i suggest you test drive the car and have a feel first. the cvt will need some getting used to, as you need to have some patience on take off and allow the clutch to bite before giving it more throttle, otherwise you will be in line to repair gearbox prematurely.

As for the OCH i do not think proton had changed the hose material. however change it at the required interval and you should be fine.

Sorry, no dealer to recommend. recently we bought an Iriz from Proton Platinum Center and it was a nightmare. Car sales man who knows jack about what he is selling and lots of other issues.

yup, good practice. Same here.

RE003 are decent tires on the dry.. wet is so so. you may be better off looking for an all rounder like ps4, yokohama fleva and etc. im on fleva and the traction on wet road is pretty impressive. However do note that the tires are not the quiet type and are directional. ps4 would be a better all rounder, but of course comes at a price:)

yeah, ps 4 price is pretty steep.. i think ps3 tires are pretty decent. owh well you have already bouth the Re003, so enjoy it )

post 2015 model will be better as certain quality issues were fixed.