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 LYN Official FIA F1 World Championship 2007 Thread, Another McLaren 1-2

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post May 29 2007, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(TOYO @ May 29 2007, 04:46 PM)
hihi well said also tongue.gif .. toyota remain team of the future hahaha
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get rid of tat schumacher 1st..haha the ralf laa of course tongue.gif
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The fact that McLaren had given Lewis the "safety car" strategy at a track notorious for safety car shows that they don't really care who won. Statistics shows that before the race he had the higher chance to win than Fernando did. But as we can see, there was no safety car thus that chance slipped.
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FIA introduces tougher flexi-wing test

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The FIA is to maintain its tough stance against movable aerodynamic devices in Formula One by ramping up its rear wing tests from the Canadian Grand Prix, autosport.com can reveal.

In the wake of the fresh controversy caused by the flexing of Red Bull Racing's rear wing at the Spanish Grand Prix, the FIA informed Formula One's teams yesterday that it is to revise its testing procedures immediately.

Up until now, the FIA has checked the rear wings with a pull-back test, where a 500 Newton force is applied horizontally across the wing span to ensure it does not deflect more than 5 millimetres.

But from the next race, the FIA will also apply a vertical load of 500 Newtons to each side of the rear wing - and it will be stricter than ever on how much the wing can deflect.

Although most deflection tests have currently allowed a tolerance of 5mm, Whiting has told the teams that the FIA will allow just two millimeters of movement on the rear wings from now on.

The clampdown comes ahead of Montreal, one of the venues on the calendar where a flexing wing - which can improve straightline speed without compromising downforce for the corners - can be most beneficial.

Last year at the race, BMW-Sauber were threatened with a protest over their rear wing after rivals Honda felt that it was flexing too much.

The Montreal race last year also coincided with the introduction of mandatory slot-gap separators on the rear wing to ensure the gap between the two wing elements remained constant when the car was at speed.

That move appeared to bring an end to the controversy at the time, with the focus switching to movable floors, but the matter was thrust back into the spotlight after the Barcelona race.

As autosport.com revealed, on-board footage of David Coulthard's RB3 showed the rear wing pivoting back on the straight before dramatically popping back up into its vertical position when the car slowed.

This prompted some concerns from rival teams, who subsequently urged the FIA to take action to ensure that no outfit was benefiting from flexible parts.

Despite the suspicions from rival teams, Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner was adamant his team had done nothing wrong in Barcelona.

"As far as we are concerned, the car fully complies with the regulations," he told autosport.com at the time.

"No other team or the FIA have mentioned this matter to us, and if the FIA felt there was an issue then I am sure it would have been raised with us. Our car passed post-scrutineering in Spain without a problem."


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Looks like McLaren can call it "safe" since there was no complaint of their wings...
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post May 29 2007, 07:04 PM

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the top 3 teams are safe IMO. BMW, Macca and Ferrari had no complaint other than that flexi floor issue
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post May 29 2007, 07:23 PM

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I dont think Ron Dennis will suggest the two drivers to go head-to-head in a heated way in the unforgiving Monaco. It is certainly not the best place to do so. No point risking the team's 1-2 finish. Well, certainly they can do so in Canada.
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i saw at some other forum refer ferrari as FIArrari. LOL

anyway i think mclaren will be alrite. coz that is not a very clear team order.

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FIA to listen in to McLaren radio
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The FIA's investigation into a "possible breach of the International Sporting Code" during McLaren's victory at the Monaco GP will centre on radio transmissions between the team and Lewis Hamilton.


Although the investigation will study the telemetry of Hamilton's performance, it is the exchanges over McLaren's pit-to-car radio that are expected to prove decisive in forming any judgement against the Woking outfit.


McLaren have potentially contravened Article 151c of the International Sporting Code by way of 'any fraudulent conduct, or any act prejudicial to the interests of any competition, or to the interests of motorsport generally'.


An unrepentant Dennis insisted that his team had not broken the law, or its spirit. "Team strategy is what you bring to bear to win a grand prix; team orders are what you bring to bear to manipulate a grand prix," the McLaren team boss argued. "We do not, and have not, manipulated grands prix unless there are some exceptional circumstances."


Should they be found guilty, both Fernando Alonso and Hamilton could lose the points they collected at Monte Carlo. However, it is widely believed that, given Monaco's unique restrictions on overtaking, any punishment would take the form of a fine against the team.


Okay.... if a team had dominated a race so much that their nearest opposition bites the dust, and then the FIA took back that result, that would be the stupidest and bias decision ever
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post May 29 2007, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 29 2007, 10:02 PM)
FIA to listen in to McLaren radio


Okay.... if a team had dominated a race so much that their nearest opposition bites the dust, and then the FIA took back that result, that would be the stupidest and bias decision ever
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mind you, they haven't exactly shown themselves to be the smartest of people... biggrin.gif
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post May 29 2007, 11:31 PM

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hmm...now FIA is all over McLarens...last time when Ferrari dominated...they were also all over the Ferraris rolleyes.gif apa ni...FIA too free all the time?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 29 2007, 10:02 PM)
FIA to listen in to McLaren radio


Okay.... if a team had dominated a race so much that their nearest opposition bites the dust, and then the FIA took back that result, that would be the stupidest and bias decision ever
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Nah, the rule changes for 2003 and 2005 gotta take the cake in that dept. tongue.gif
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post May 29 2007, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 29 2007, 10:02 PM)
FIA to listen in to McLaren radio


Okay.... if a team had dominated a race so much that their nearest opposition bites the dust, and then the FIA took back that result, that would be the stupidest and bias decision ever
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British influence perhaps, lol. Just j/k, but the British were all uproar about the result.

Whatever it is, I hope Hamilton will not play number 2. He should up his game, out qualifies Alonso and pull off big time away from alonso and get that maiden win that he deserve... and yes, do it constantly biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ May 30 2007, 12:00 AM)
I really don't understand what the FIA are trying to do here. As a McLaren fan I thought both drivers pushed very hard in the early stages up until the 2nd stop which was when they were asked to take it easy. Sensible decision...since Hamilton had a few moments where he almost kissed the barriers.
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actually it seems that ron dennis asked them to conserve their cars around lap 10...
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maybe they're just doing that to make "crying" hamilton fans a little happy laugh.gif
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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ May 30 2007, 12:24 AM)
actually it seems that ron dennis asked them to conserve their cars around lap 10...
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Interestingly, both of them posted their most fastest lap after their stop.
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i remember heard that alonso saying he not quite hapy with first tyre choice,sumting to do with tyre graning... and playing safe with super soft tyre after final pitstop...IMHO hamilton face the same situation...their best tyre is the second set...

so in this case...if hamilton do use one pit stop strategy,this mean he will stuck with the slow set of tyre rite
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depends. If he has managed to leapfrog Fernando, the situation might change and the team will tell Fernando to slow down
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can hamilton do that on that slow tyre while alonso already on the faster tyre?
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Hamilton `ranted and raved` at McLaren

Lewis Hamilton reportedly ranted and raved over the McLaren team radio after being told to hold station behind team-mate Fernando Alonso during Sunday's Monaco GP and only agreed to slow down after the personal intervention of Ron Dennis.


The admission of the McLaren team principal that he had asked his drivers to 'cool it' has prompted the FIA to launch an investigation into their victory for a "possible breach of the International Sporting Code."


According to The Daily Mail, Hamilton 'vented his frustration' at being denied the opportunity to push for victory 'by ranting at his race engineer Phil Prew.'


'Dennis was forced to step in over the in-car radio and speak to his protege directly,' the newspaper claims. 'It was only then that rookie Hamilton, who made his views clear with several high-speed laps, finally relented and abided by his boss's demand that he should settle for second place.'


"Lewis was very angry. He turned the air blue when he was told to take it easy," a 'paddock insider' claimed.

Lewis's will be hot on Alonso next time around smile.gif

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