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post Sep 9 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Soul Seeker @ Sep 8 2016, 11:24 AM)
Vios is very attractive because of the good discount its offering. Never own any korean car before so not really sure the RV. Because plan to use this car maybe for 2 to 3 years and will move to oversea so RV definitely in consideration.
City overall is good rounder but leaning toward cerato and vios more due to more discount given at this point
Very mixed review for cerato because some say handling is good some say is trash. Didn test drive it before.
Since it include so much feature like a conti , not sure their parts are durable as well or not. So far i see owner complaint the fast dying batt only. Not much end user review locally too

Cerato 2016 kx now is giving discount otr price about at 80k. Would it hurt even more than vios in 3 years time for the RV ?

Plan to get only new car . 2.0 is nice but budget now allowed sad.gif
Family only want non local brand. Narrowed down to three choice now vios city and cerato
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Don't expect local reviewers to be honest.
Even if it is utter trash they won't dare give much negative comments.
Unlike European reviews where they focus on the owner in terms of "how it drives", "how much is the upkeep", and "how practical it is".
The local reviews usually 60% is explaining the spec sheet, 35% overall test drive feel and fuel consumption report, 5% negative feedback with a spin.

Here is an example from the Persona review:

"The experience is hairy to say the least – at speeds above 100 km/h, a sudden, violent flick of the steering wheel one way, then the other, is enough to upset the car, causing the Persona to snap into oversteer before the computers very quickly gather it all up. It’s a very stark reminder on why we champion this active safety feature, as it is essential in preventing accidents during emergency manoeuvres such as these. Kudos to Proton for yet another car with stability control as standard across the range."

Any reviewer from outside this country will instantly call this out. Nanny electronics is good but it shouldn't have to be so much in your face and the car depends on it so much. The reviewer said above 100km/h which is a pretty common speed nowadays if like that also need nanny electronics there is a critical flaw in the car's design and handling. Additionally, it instantly means this car cannot go on any highway with a 110 speed limit because Malaysian style you'll need at least 130/150km/h speeds to overtake even lowly lorries crawling at 90km/h.

"It’s not perfect – some of the plastics still feel low-rent, and there are still a few quirks like too-small instrument gauges and mismatched switchgear fonts. But it’s inched closer to being a complete, well-rounded car than any other Proton, and while we’ve said that many times before, this time it’s tantalisingly close."

Cheap plastics is inevitable nowadays so can't complain, even most under 100k Toyota's feel pretty darn cheap like just 30% improvement over Perodua. Mismatched fonts is probably forgivable but it shouldn't happen. The big mistake are the tiny instrument gauges, as you can see from pictures at the source the tachometer seems okay but the speedometer is too busy making the thing overall bigger would make it easier to read, i wouldn't go as far as say you'll need to concentrate and probably cause an accident trying to read it (unless you're a senior citizen with an eye sight problem) but it takes that little more effort.

Before you go and bash local reviewers, which you should but not blatantly without knowing this first, the car industry here if you look properly is pretty much a controlled market by a handful of companies (see below) and because the population in Malaysia is small for so many brands they really cannot afford any of their models getting an honest review as some of the brands they're carrying is already standing on the grave like Citroen, Skoda, Alfa Romeo. Thus non co-operative media won't get called for media events or given cars for test drive.

Naza Group is the franchise holder for Kia Motors, Peugeot, Chevrolet, and Citroën. With the option to rebadge Kia vehicles under their own brand.

Sime Darby has BMW and Mini (Auto Bavaria), Ford passenger and commercial vehicles, Land Rover, Alfa Romeo, Hyundai, and also Inokom when they JV with Hyundai.

DRB Hicom has Honda, Isuzu, Suzuki,Proton, Audi, Mitsubishi.

Berjaya Group under Bermaz has Mazda and Skoda.

MBM Resources has Daihatsu, Hino, Perodua, VW, Volvo.

Tan Chong Motors has Nissan and Renault.

Bloggers are also split between two types, one type doesn't care about the industry and try to give information out anonymously online, while others find there is fame and fortune being a car reviewer so of course polish the apple until they get noticed by a magazine publisher or directly get offers from the brand owners.

TLDR if you're FaMa supported then just get Vios or City.
Vios would be the cheapest especially now with the discounts and J-spec.
City top-spec is good enough as a C-segment except for it's size.

QUOTE(tekplyrX @ Sep 8 2016, 12:14 PM)
So I guess he was right about the insurance being rm3k+ (which still doesn't make sense to me) but the remaining rm5k+ was/is just plain daylight robbery. This is a 2010 (6 years old) discontinued model lol.. I had read somewhere about how business is getting more difficult for them (2nd hand car dealers), now i'm not surprised.
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QUOTE(IhaveUsername @ Sep 8 2016, 04:48 PM)
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2013 Honda Civic - if you want a big upgrade from your current car this would be it, this generation of Civic suffers from relatively bad looks (compared to the generation before it) and without a TypeR model in the stable it is generally viewed as the boring version. Market perception aside this car still sold in good numbers so parts and support is there, so maintenance and upkeep is relatively cheap for a C-segment also adding to the fact that the 1800cc version uses the same R18 engine as the generation before it while the 2000cc variant uses an R20 engine. The R-series engine is newer than the K-series, although not as powerful as the K-series it has better fuel economy and the way it is designed it is meant to be cheaper to maintain and more reliable. For me it is a good combination as maintenance wise it isn't going to hurt and the price is down due to FaMa and most people thinking it is not as good as the previous generation of FD's, and with the latest generation already out the prices of cars in this generation will further drop.

2013 VW Beetle - if you're not worried about maintenance and want something fun and not so practical yet cool then you can consider to buy a car like this. The Beetle with this 1.2TSI and DSG combo doesn't have as many complaints as Golf/Polo but you can never tell. Nevertheless, for an iconic car it can be worth the money if you want the street cred.



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it is a buyers market now.
this seller either smoking too much weed or dunno about cars.
maybe he thinks the value appreciates like property.
tell him 80k or else f-off laugh.gif
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post Sep 9 2016, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 9 2016, 09:50 AM)
BTW which is more reliable peugeout 508 vs Passat 1.8 TSI.
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 9 2016, 10:03 AM)
lol, to me thats fine, biarlah these people.... good luck selling, let them hold on to the car longer. Longer they hold it, the more it depreciates rclxms.gif
when i was looking for a car, there were some ppl like this. 2 of them called me back later on asking if i was still interested~ one more is still trying to sell his car, price has not gone down yet, it's been over a year (an eg hatch b18b, 43k++ admittedly the engine was very nicely built up tho)
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In mudah now got one guy selling Mitsu Colt 1.5 turbo for 43k.
Abit high. doh.gif
28-35k is a decent price.
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post Sep 9 2016, 11:23 AM

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Since I saw the regular guy here is Zenix and lsm1991
Might want to ask some advice on which one to choose. However, anyone who saw my post also can advise, I welcome all inputs.

Two offers came to me, from my mechanic and my friend, details as below

From Mechanic: Proton Wira Aeroback 1.5 3AT - 160KM+ mileage
This car is sitting at his workshop all the time, was a 'gift' from his sister who was a cikgu and only driven the car from house to university which only few KMs apart.
Condition wise, all body is aligned, no accident, original paint and body kit only a small dent on behind, already touch up, not painted.
The only thing to highlight is that he just service the 3AT valve body due to dirty that time (cikgu didnt maintain well i guess)
Opening price is RM5000

From Friend: Perodua Myvi 2006 1.3 AT No Airbag - 100KM+ mileage
This car used by my fren to go to his office and go back home, occasionally go out of town, Singapore as well.
Engine is very well proven to be able to go long haul, my fren very sayang the car, hence want to sell to someone he know.
Body wise, i know he involved in few minor cosmetics accident, now the car just painted last year, looks like new.
He will only sell this car early next year since he is getting the new Civic 1.5Turbo
Opening price is RM15000

I'm aware that the price is far apart, 3 times of it.
However I want to hear from the investment side, which one more worth.
Currently I'm driving an old Bluebird U13, still on restoration and many small things to fix, so will need a spare car to go to work only.

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post Sep 9 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 9 2016, 11:01 AM)
Who is a better person Devil or Satan?  devil.gif
In mudah now got one guy selling Mitsu Colt 1.5 turbo for 43k.
Abit high.  doh.gif
28-35k is a decent price.
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What do you think is a cheap, fun to drive, d segment car.
Lets assume I have 20k-25k cash on top of the regular maintainence for all those repairs.

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post Sep 9 2016, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 9 2016, 11:01 AM)
Who is a better person Devil or Satan?  devil.gif
In mudah now got one guy selling Mitsu Colt 1.5 turbo for 43k.
Abit high.  doh.gif
28-35k is a decent price.
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theres also a colt rallyart (the real thing). last i saw 80++k.....

owner has been trying to sell it for yearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs. whistling.gif

then again, its condition is really nice + its a special model so niche market kind of thing wink.gif

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Thank you sir
Would you suggest buying a 2013-14 hybrid 1.6 civic ?
Any problems with the battery? Even some of the used car are under warranty (Honda give 8years)
And somehow, the price is same and some are cheaper than a 1.8 civic (2013)

Anything should I worry about

Thank you again for your advise
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post Sep 9 2016, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 9 2016, 11:33 AM)
What do you think is a cheap, fun to drive,  d segment car.
Lets assume I have 20k-25k cash on top of the regular maintainence for all those repairs.
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if you dont mind the heavy heavy tax... and potential bombs along the way(and assuming no loans)
sometimes, me no realistic person. will spew out stuff i like~~

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+ very nais car (some do think its one of the less popular 5 series) also pretty powerful
+ rwd
+ shove in a 1jz and you can literally fly
+shops offering owners around 15k (then they try sell for somewhere around 25k not even otr mad.gif) for them so you can capitalise on that whistling.gif
- when things do go wrong, it can go wrong bad....
- parts can be exp.
- old

Cefiro a33 is kinda nais.
+powerful, luxurious, reliable and tanky
-roadtax will kill you.. its that bad (ayam talking bout 3.0 since thats the good stuff)
- old

s60
+powerful (very much so actually)
- if things do go very wrong, it can cost 'more than/as much as' the beemer to fix

if you want something that wont burn your pocket, get something like a accord/camry~ but they are nowhere as nice to drive as the 3 above, not even in the same ballpark
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post Sep 9 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 9 2016, 11:59 AM)
if you dont mind the heavy heavy tax... and potential bombs along the way(and assuming no loans)
sometimes, me no realistic person. will spew out stuff i like~~

e39
+ very nais car (some do think its one of the less popular 5 series) also pretty powerful
+ rwd
+ shove in a 1jz and you can literally fly
+shops offering owners around 15k (then they try sell for somewhere around 25k not even otr mad.gif) for them so you can capitalise on that whistling.gif
- when things do go wrong, it can go wrong bad....
- parts can be exp.
- old

Cefiro a33 is kinda nais.
+powerful, luxurious, reliable and tanky
-roadtax will kill you.. its that bad (ayam talking bout 3.0 since thats the good stuff)
- old

s60
+powerful (very much so actually)
- if things do go very wrong, it can cost 'more than/as much as' the beemer to fix

if you want something that wont burn your pocket, get something like a accord/camry~ but they are nowhere as nice to drive as the 3 above, not even in the same ballpark
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That's a bit too old... I was thinking in the range of 50-70k. That's why I was asking on peugout 508 /passat , but dunno what other choices i have




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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 9 2016, 01:29 PM)
That's a bit too old... I was thinking in the range of 50-70k. That's why I was asking on peugout 508 /passat , but dunno what other choices i have
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oh my god *sorry... bangwall.gif

i read something else entirely... i read : have 25k cash to buy a d segment car........... ohmy.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 9 2016, 10:14 AM)
I know, but too showy.
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Most jelly wont think you are showy cause they themselves are against your preference, hence haters will be haters

Once you drive a beemer, you wont want to drive other cars............the poison is there , keyword = fun .

Dun worry too much over maintenance cause any cars also need to pay for maintenance , cross the bridge when the need arise, and enjoy the ride as for now.........FUN is the word......
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 9 2016, 01:29 PM)
That's a bit too old... I was thinking in the range of 50-70k. That's why I was asking on peugout 508 /passat , but dunno what other choices i have
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http://www.carlist.my/used-cars/3090585/20...2-5-msport.html

Btw, zenix mentioned it was a detuned 3.0L car............ brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 9 2016, 01:29 PM)
That's a bit too old... I was thinking in the range of 50-70k. That's why I was asking on peugout 508 /passat , but dunno what other choices i have
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60-70k....

These are the types of cars 'I' like:

kizashi (less than 5 years old)
+just within budget, quite a powerful car, very sporty looking
+will be cheaper to deal with compared to what you have in mind
- model specific accessories might be harder to come by
- body parts are more difficult to source (but as zenix mentions you dont have to bother bout that, you only need to care about the wear and tear parts)
-2.4l tax might put you a little off?

CL7
+also just within budget
+parts (mechanical parts at least) are plentiful, shares the k20 engine (some have the k24)
+very sporty as well, basically sold as a performance oriented d segment
+available in a manual format brows.gif (guessing you are probably not into this)
+somewhat comfortable for a performance oriented car
- not comfortable compared to most typical d segments
- many are abused/modified unfortunately
- much older than the others

Lexus IS 250
+luxury + class all in one

and then we have your typical go-to mellow d segs
Camry
Accord
Teana
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 9 2016, 02:16 PM)
60-70k....

These are the types of cars 'I' like:

kizashi (less than 5 years old)
+just within budget, quite a powerful car, very sporty looking
+will be cheaper to deal with compared to what you have in mind
- model specific accessories might be harder to come by
- body parts are more difficult to source (but as zenix mentions you dont have to bother bout that, you only need to care about the wear and tear parts)
-2.4l tax might put you a little off?

CL7
+also just within budget
+parts (mechanical parts at least) are plentiful, shares the k20 engine (some have the k24)
+very sporty as well, basically sold as a performance oriented d segment
+available in a manual format  brows.gif (guessing you are probably not into this)
+somewhat comfortable for a performance oriented car
- not comfortable compared to most typical d segments
- many are abused/modified unfortunately
- much older than the others

Lexus IS 250
+luxury + class all in one

and then we have your typical go-to mellow d segs
Camry
Accord
Teana
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Kizashi sounds interesting.
The thing is believe it or not , I have never ever seen one on the road before. Reading review ... they sold 11 in 2011.
I mean does the SC even know how to service this thing(I'm working in penang from kl btw). Is there even spare parts that you can order ?
Not looking for accord at this moment.


I'm looking for a more european ride and handling kind of car.

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 9 2016, 01:59 PM)
http://www.carlist.my/used-cars/3090585/20...2-5-msport.html

Btw, zenix mentioned it was a detuned 3.0L car............ brows.gif  brows.gif
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I don't want to drive the same car as my company director ...haha

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 9 2016, 03:56 PM)
Kizashi sounds interesting.
The thing is believe it or not , I have never ever seen one on the road before.
I mean does the SC even know how to service this thing(I'm working in penang from kl btw). Is there even spare parts that you can order ?
Not looking for accord at this moment.
I'm looking for a more european ride and handling kind of car.
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i have seen these on the road several times. engine is the same as what you find in the vitara (i think it was the vitara?), so getting it up and running should be no issue at all. spare parts also boleh cari, same like any other suzuki.
if you ask me, there are only 2 bigger issues with this model.... as you can see, it does not seem to hold its resale value very well (strange cause it is a very pretty car) and two, its small.... im not 100% sure but i the civic x's interior seems more spacious.

thats no ordinary accord... thats the fancy sports model. The ride is on the frim side.

the lexus is also european-ish but maintanance... erm
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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 9 2016, 01:59 PM)
http://www.carlist.my/used-cars/3090585/20...2-5-msport.html

Btw, zenix mentioned it was a detuned 3.0L car............ brows.gif  brows.gif
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Considering a high mileage car especially those baring the emblem of bmw , audi and merz may not be a good idea.

The higher the mileage is, the higher the possibility that a part will be due for replacement lol.
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Is Nissan Teana a good car? kind of like the 2011-2013 of this car
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Please suggest:
1. Brand. - Any as long as it is easily purchased in Malaysia
2. Budget. - Below RM150k
3. New/Used/Unreg. - New
4. Specs. - Smaller than Kancil or Viva. Must be low fuel consumption.
5. Transmission. - Prefer MT. AT is ok too.
6. NA or FI ? - Any
7. Type. (Sedan, 2 Seater, Convertible, and etc) - Any
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 11 2016, 01:52 PM)
Please suggest:

4. Specs. - Smaller than Kancil or Viva. Must be low fuel consumption.

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 11 2016, 01:52 PM)
Please suggest:
1. Brand. - Any as long as it is easily purchased in Malaysia
2. Budget. - Below RM150k
3. New/Used/Unreg. - New
4. Specs. - Smaller than Kancil or Viva. Must be low fuel consumption.
5. Transmission. - Prefer MT. AT is ok too.
6. NA or FI ? - Any
7. Type. (Sedan, 2 Seater, Convertible, and etc) - Any
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With your budget of 150k , it's a piece of cake


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