Actually the later models past the v7 dont really rumble anymore.... Ahh heck long as u like it and can afford it, by all means go ahead!

If the idea is to get a low cost runabout car, thats not exactly the best choice..... Best would be to go for a cheap local car.... Maintanance/running costs are much lower

Ok, do you think that a RM6800 1999 year Perodua Kembara will make a better choice? Or better if go for a kenari or kerisa? A much low cost car.

kembara is also a poor choice.... with that kind of budget... you should be looking for those easy to maintain very common cars....

with a 5k budget
wira, saga, satria (if u dont really need to carry people) and the other tiny models

with a 10k budget
your options widen to include the kenari, gen 2, waja... i can go on and on
if you want a non local, seg

Ok. Thank you so much, it had been so much helpful!!
Last thing is what you mean by seg? Is it mean those segment A,B,C,D car?

I'm thinking CRZ but you've got a bunch of contradictory information.

CRZ doesn't have a short throw stick, imho it is a "shampoo girl" coupe that has aspirations to be a sports car or looks like a sports car but isn't really a sports car. It is pretty quick because of it's size but it is lugging around that extra weight from the IMA (hybrid) system so it isn't really an MX5/Miata kinda deal, infact it is so cheap is partly because of the hybrid system as it gets tax breaks else it would be expensive because the tax for coupe/2 door body types in malaysia is pretty high which is why even the entry level Scirocco 1.4 is way expensive. But then what makes it cheap in taxes to sell in many countries also makes it not as an exciting of a car to drive because of the additional weight and also because it is supposed to be an eco friendly hybrid it doesn't come with a environmentally barbaric K20 lump which the chassis can handle. But then again I do think it is something suitable for you because for all intents and purposes it is a cheap car to maintain, fuel consumption is very good, and it is quiet.

Cause I can't think of of anything else which meets all your criteria and isn't rock hard, loud and thirsty.

so it is a brand new one or used one?
aren't used ones around that price anyway?

LOL....read properly lah.
Probably Teana after discounts.

If low budget is the priority then you should instead look for older Mitsubishi era Proton's.
I know some might say that Perodua cars would tick more boxes in terms of being a student car, it is smaller thus easier to park for newbie drivers, fuel efficient for poor student budget, and of course cheap to maintain. But I find Perodua cars of that era woefully unsafe. I know it might be an extreme example but remember that Kelisa that got split into half when a construction equipment fell on it? Granted not many cars and owners would survive such an event but I've seen too many Kelisa's in bad accidents lately thus it goes against my conscious to suggest such a car.

1997 Proton Wira 1.6XLI - this would be about your budget level and I tihnk it is a good car, firstly body parts for Wira is literally littered around the country, no problems getting door, glass, aircon parts, etc. Those are the common stuff this particular model is the 1.6xli not the 1.5gli (which is more common). The big difference? Power and gears. 1600cc of course is more powerful and also the automatic gearbox has 4 gears while the 1500cc only have 3 gears, so that means overall you've got less gears and higher chance that fuel economy sucks. The bad news is that the 1.6xli is less common than the 1.5gli so expect to buy parts at slightly more expensive prices if it is specifically for the 1.6xli which is mainly just anything for the engine/gearbox. Overall, it ain't going to really hurt your pocket that much compared to the 1.5gli but you'll enjoy better performance and fuel economy everyday with the 1.6xli, service and parts is just 1-2 days per year

Haha....what kinda sound you expect?
If you're talking about the rumbling of the boxer engine isn't your thing.
News is the newer ones don't really make that kinda sound anymore.
Especially v10 really sound like a regular engine, however if you want sound you can always change to Remus exhaust for that sharp F1 kinda sound or Arkapovic for that raspy boxy rumble.

Funny thing is the Kembara although shares many similarities with the Myvi, it isn't as cheap to maintain, it isn't as powerful and fuel consumption is terrible in comparison.

Don't buy death traps from Perodua.



The only older Perodua that is decent is the Myvi.

here is an example...

A = axia, attrage
B = vios, city, almera, myvi
C = altis, civic, sylphy
D = camry, accord, teana

seg is an old toyota corolla. prety decent thing but its old so finding one in good condition isnt as common nowadays.

ohh yeah... best to find a later model proton (2000 and onwards) but IF you do look for an older proton (pre 2000) check for rust especially on the roof. its very common on protons back then.
*highly recommend you look for a manual car though..... easier to jaga, less headaches in event crap does happen


short shifter, can install (but... trust me Kosumaledoko depending on how short the throw is, the novelty can wear out daily after driving a while. Shorter the throw is, the stiffer it is.....)

hehe most 'performance' oriented cars are meant to be obnoxiously loud, difficult/harsh to drive (not so with the newer ones), . Like you say, he will probably like a sporty car better.

i think he is looking for anything round 5 years old or newer that fits his budget.

so it is a brand new one or used one?
aren't used ones around that price anyway?

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It is used one. I take up that car already because i feel i am ok with the condition & also the price. Maintenance all put aside.

Thank you so much for your advice. It is really helpful. If low budget and can tahan at least 4-5 years is my priority, you will still recommend me to get an old proton?

Ok thanks!! Will definitely consider the Corolla if find any good car.

Thanks Zenix. But most probably will go for the new Accord (hope got lots of freebies la when launch on 10 Sept). Existing stock no more. zzzz...

Sifu , Which one better if compare Teana vs Sylphy ?

I like toyota wish a lot, but also heard someone mentioned the recon car is not easy to maintain, any comment on this Zenix ? thanks in advance !

well... counter question, toyota corolla compared with the camry? Which is better, answer is 99% (if not 100%) the same.
Same brand, dif segment/class thats it.... more expensive, bigger and classier vs smaller,cheaper to own and less grand

me wana weigh in sikit....
who ever said more 'difficult' to maintain?? why?
to me there are only 2 possible issues which are not really issues if you know what you are doing
1)recon cars = history unknown, not an issue if you can make sure its in good cond
2)recon cars are usually models less common here but, mechanical parts not a problem unless its a very pecial car cause most models share parts

Ok so,

my dad is currently driving a 1997 1.5L carb Proton Wira. However, recently got some problems so I decided to change car for my dad.

Was actually considering 1.6L Persona first gen or Waja CPS. Did my homework, felt that me & my dad would like the Waja more.

I saw one that I like Yr'2011 Proton Waja CPS Premium for RM13K. Would appreciate any feedback. Because my dad necessitates a higher CC vehicle as he kept saying that the Wira is underpowered. Also ABS + dual airbags is a must. Would like the cost to be as low as possible, so ideally <20/15K.

Initially I was also considering the older Waja variants with the Mitsubishi engines, however those are already quite old with high mileage. And most do not come equipped with ABS+arbags. The 1.8L models people said that spare parts are significantly more expensive, that's why I'm only considering the 1.6L CPS

Thansk all

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few words of advise....
1)mitsu 1.6 engines are relatively decent. IIRC, only that these variants did not come with abs/dual airbags and since you mentioned that it is a necessity this is out of the picture
2)1.8 models are utter garbage. Old renault engine, nough said (avoid at all costs!)
3)cps engines, newer and came in higher end trims with the features you want (dont think it was sold in any basic config so do some homework 1st). Maintenance is alright, and but its not frugal.

Yr'2011 Proton Waja CPS Premium for RM13K... sounds abit cheap?? Check it out properly and make sure its really a cps model and if you saw it at a dealership, ask for the otr price... it adds up.

other cars you might wana consider is the high line persona and the gen2 cps.

I am very eager to know why VW Polo 1.2 is never being suggested? Is it a bad car or the maintenance wise cost bomb. Or because it is in continental category? Bcuz the used ones are as low as >50k.

lol you are the one which likes the fiesta kan? i can see what types of cars you are trending towards....

anyway, tell me what tranny does that polo use?

frankly speaking.... there's always reasons why something depreciates that quickly.

Yes, u can still remember me. Hahaha. Yup from 100k down to 45k in less than 4 years indicates something is not right about the car perhaps.

Still saving for deposit cash and my mind can't get it right 😂