1. Brand : Undecided between used 2012 Peugeot 207 1.6 (AT) SV EDITION & 2009 Proton Perdana 2.0
2. Budget : RM20,000
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0 or low
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : Sedan
8. Remarks :

Ok, I will avoid roadside dealer at all costs.
But one more question here. Those recon car, will you still recommend to buy or stay away since we cannot trace the car history here. And where to service?.

guys, currently driving saga SV 2015. Plan to upgrade to new proton persona
But the problem for me is
I do not have the money to settle the bank loan. Any trick to get extra loan money on top of my current loan amount? I mean now i owe bank around rm20k, i need another 30k for persona. But i dont have the amount to settle the amount of rm20k first. I can pay for Monthly commitment for persona, not a problem.
Thank you

may i ask why these cars in particular?..... they are not cheap to maintain

perdana
i own a car with a sort of similar engine. the maintenance costs are on the higher side and and its a real pain in the arse to work with... (not enough space + in my case, changing one thing requires removing a plethora of other things) its a v6, more engine oil required (not a big issue), 6 sparkies, 6 injectors, 6 pistons i think you shoul notice a trend here.... pretty much most items cost alittle more than what you find on other mitsu's (non performance models ofc)... also, the gearbox on the perdana is a known sore point. some say adding a gearbox cooler helps but its one of those things that commonly goes wrong (
just some things you should consider before getting one


207...
basically, would not touch thats it.

recon cars... well u dont know whats been tampered with and you dont know whats it been used for, thats the nature of recon cars. There is nothing holding you back from getting one IF you can pretty much guaranty its been taken care of. Where to service? anywhere! frankly speaking, if you join and talk to the ownerclubs of said models, they ALWAYS have a place they can recommend to you (more often than not, these guys are so well versed in the model, they are better than the sc)

Thanks for the advice. I will put this as last choice. To me buying car must cheap to maintain. I'm eyeing the recon wish and evo 10, fd2r. One for family and one for myself. Once in your lifetime to own budget Street racing car. Life is short.

1. Brand: Any, but preferably Japanese
2. Budget: RM100k max.
3. New/Used/Unreg: Any
4. Specs: Any
5. Transmission: Manual with clutch pedal
6. NA or FI : Any, but preferably NA
7. Type: Hatchback, Sedan, or Coupe. In such order.
8. Remarks: Fun to drive car, not older than 2010

Hi all,

I'm looking for a fun to drive car not older than 2010. With good reliability and some practicality. Currently the list on my mind as below, :

1. Suzuki Swift Sport ZC32S
2. Ford Fiesta ST
3. Peugeot 208 GTi

Do share if you know of any other car fit the bill.

How reliable is the Fiesta ST and 208 GTi? Are they expensive to maintain, do share some example.

Much thanks.

This post has been edited by Kosumaledoko: Aug 28 2016, 04:34 PM

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/newforums/i...-sport-edition/

Thanks, but I'm looking for a manual.

ahh....

fun to drive does not mean it needs to be silly fast yes?
i know of a few decent ones....

civic-r (fn/fd)
-easy to maintain, pretty decent cars, parts and upgrades are very easy to source, parts are not really that expensive (given its a car of this caliber)
-very fast on track (if thats your thing)

subaru sti (GH)
-around that age, costs abit more in general but you can find some just over 100k if you search hard enough
-very powerful and pretty reliable
-heavy on the maintenance (heavy duty parts, quite price)

crz
-not a powerful car for sure BUT its pretty decent, handling is on the better side
-seems to turn heads
-on the cheaper side to maintain (its pretty much a normal car setup to look and feel sporty which has a hybrid system)

mx5 (2010 models are around this price)
-a really nice car, fun to drive
-parts are soursable, not impossible to maintain (though some parts you might need to order from japan iirc, a forumer owns one, he will know better)

Suzuki Swift Sport ZC32S
-personally,i feel this car is way overstated. handles great im sure but.... i dont know...
*note that I have never been in one but my friends 'cheap' 30-40k almost stock car car made mince meat of it round Sepang, could be a fake bodykit-ed car, could be a bad driver (dun cucuk me any owners of this car do not mean any harm)
-maintenance is reasonable though

Peugeot 208 GTi
-love the looks of this thing, its fancy inside and out
-do not trust Peugeot as far as reliability goes (best join an owners club and ask them about this)

audi tt

1997 Proton Putra - buy this and be happy, you've got a decent car which isn't too expensive to maintain, yet is rare and cool enough to get street cred from girls and guys.

People buy recons all the time.
Just make sure they give you a warranty for the main stuff like aircon/engine/gearbox and you should be ok.

No money don't bother you're going to dig a deeper hole for yourself.
Plus the new persona isn't guaranteed to be better than what you have now.
You might end up with something more expensive to maintain.

Recon EvoX aren't cheap.
Why not go for Sti around 130k can get one
Wish is a good choice, plenty of spare parts and models out there you can get something really worth your money. Some of the unregs start at 80k but be-careful of scams.

2013 Honda CRZ 1.5(M) - when you're talking about cars that are quite fun, manual and cheap to service this is the first thing that pops into my mind. Reason is that 1500cc is a pretty common engine among Honda, it is the same stuff that is inside the City and Jazz albeit with a slightly different configuration. So abundant parts means it is cheaper to maintain. Speed, performance, handling might not be as sharp as true sports cars but it is alright if fun is more self pleasure than traffic light drag racing.

SSS - performance and handling isn't too shabby but it ain't got the kind of top end speed and low end grunt to be a real sports car, again another self satisfaction car like the CRZ but has abit more performance built into it but it will cost you because this guy is rare over here so parts ain't going to be easy to find unless you go back to 3S and that usually means it will cost a bomb.

FFST not going to be as reliable as the two above, performance would be better slightly than the SSS but not by that much, but maintenance would be about there too. Basically, not much point to think about FFST as youo don't get bang for your buck.

P208GTI is as your've suspected this list is going from bad to worst. The end.

2013 Audi TT - if you ask me why not get straight to the point? You want manual? ppfftt! c'mon you ain't never going to shift faster than a DCT, worried about DCT failure? FYI only pariah dry clutch DCT's like the ones in Fiesta and Golf TSI's fail the wet clutch DCT's in GTI's and Evo's are superb A real sports car with turbo so yeah handling/performance/speed is head and shoulders above everything above but maintenance? Yeah it would probably cost you about the same or slightly more expensive to maintain that 208 GTI in Malaysia but the benefits are worth it. If you search around you might get unreg/recon at around 100k so you're not even buying a second hand car, you get to buy it with cheaper new car interest rates and usually unreg/recon condition is much better than second hand plus they usually give you a limited 1 year warranty which is better than nothing.

Thanks for bringing up CR-Z, lsm1991 and zenix! Why I didn't thought of it, damn... I guess now it's down to SSS and CR-Z, thanks a bunch!

Very inclined towards FD2R. But the ride is rock hard, 100km/h in 6th around 3100rpm will be loud and thirsty. So it's drop out from my list.

Note to zenix: I know those DSG-Semi-Robotic-DCT-Sequential manual gearbox are quick! But nothing beats the feel of shifting a delicious short-throw stick!

This post has been edited by Kosumaledoko: Aug 29 2016, 02:08 AM

hoho just saw this.... wana make something very clear for you, there is NO such thing as a cheap to maintain performance car....

fd2r isnt very thirsty nor is it loud if left in stock condition. (Its only loud when you floor it to the redline but that's normal) fd2r will need ron97 but thats no dif from the swift, it too is designed to run on premium fuel. its very harsh yes, but not much worse than a sss.... that thing (sss) is also pretty much ready to track machine

Hi guys, i have a deal to own a used 2014/2015 Mit Attrage at RM40K. Do you think this is a good price 7 worth to own it? What is the pro & cons for this car?

not sure what range you are talking about, but im going to assume, the top spec model

1)price wise, thats a reasonable offer BUT keep reading

2)what i think about it? nothing much, its really an empty car. Only thing going for it is its decent fuel economy

3)part one of why i think its not great. its a small 3 cylinder which isnt really refined nor is it powerful. As with most fuel sipping cars, its not great in the handling department, its like a tiny sampan. Also, its looks offends me

4)part two of why i think its not great, NEW competition.
Now we have the bezza, new persona and new saga (facelift, body lift, botox and plastic surgery everywhere). Yes unfortunately, all local cars. I feel that these cars are better options. they are newer, better safety, similar or better features (dollar for dollar), are completely new (latest tech + new car smell + warranty + almost 0 wear and tear, all win), these newer competitors being 'local' makes will cost less to maintain in general.
*admittedly the beza does offend me as much as the attrage but since it looks like its going to be common on the road we should get used to its extremely tiny/skinny tires and sky high bumm soon*

my few sens

Well I would say go for it if you found one with tip top condition. You will not able to get Japanese built such as Accord and camry at that price. I don't own the car so I can't really tell the pros and cons of the car, but I do own Hyundai car where I find not bad.

Later Hyundai car comes with 5 years warranty for its powertrain and 3 years warranty for other part. Make sure the previous owner does not skip any maintenance service at authorized service center. You may want take the car for a trip to authorized service center for inspection and get it certify for warranty ownership transfer.

Edit: around rm50 for the inspection

This post has been edited by therain01: Aug 29 2016, 11:26 AM

Damn, no trustworthy used car dealer?
After browsing the forum, i scared to buy used car dy...
which is the cheapest D-segment new car? ='=

I came across this car in carlist.com. Would like to ask all gurus whether it is worth it or not.

Brand - Hyundai Elantra 2004
Used
Manufactured at 2002
Mileage - 100k
Auto
Priced at RM6490, probably can nego.


I just need a car to travel around my uni, maybe sometimes go to someplace where it is 1 - 2 hours away from me. Low budget is priority. Hopefully can use for 4 - 5 years. Budget will be lower than 10k.

Any suggestions and recommendations is appreciate!

Ps: Have gone through the whole list of carlist.com and most of mudah.com listings.
Thanks!!

Unfortunately, the Subaru boxer engine sounds does not impress me. Anyhow, just my preference.

Yeah man. But if grow older, performance car will no longer for me anymore.