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post Aug 25 2016, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(jayzshadower @ Aug 24 2016, 04:18 PM)
To request recommendation, this is what u need to post:
1. Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM 5000
3. New/Used/Unreg. : Any
4. Specs.: Reach from point A to B enough
5. Transmission:Manual
6. NA or FI ? : Any
7. Type.: Sedan
8. Remarks.: Power Sterling, PETROL EFFICIENT is a must

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Anyone can help me ??
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post Aug 25 2016, 12:54 PM

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Anyone can help me ??
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your budget is severely limited, not that many choices to narrow down to.... since theres not much to pick from in the first place.... im sure a few pop up in your mind.... what cars are you considering atm?

only thing i will note is that 'PETROL EFFICIENT' is not something you can get at this price tag...
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post Aug 25 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(phonebraver @ Aug 24 2016, 09:37 AM)
1. Brand : Any, except Toyota Vios(Brother owed one)
2. Budget : 40-60K
3. New/Used/Unreg : New/used
4. Specs :  Prefer full-spec
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : sedan
8. Remarks : Prefer keyless entry, allow me to use for other 8-10 years, reasonable maintenance fees, good fc, comfortable for longer distance travel. Usually 80% city drive, occasionally need to travel to Penang.

Appreciate your advice, fellow forummers. Thank you in adv.
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Other than Perodua & Proton, any other recommendation?
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post Aug 25 2016, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Aug 25 2016, 12:54 PM)
your budget is severely limited, not that many choices to narrow down to....  since theres not much to pick from in the first place.... im sure a few pop up in your mind.... what cars are you considering atm?

only thing i will note is that 'PETROL EFFICIENT' is not something you can get at this price tag...
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Some very old local model ? Basically I just wonder can RM 5000 car really work or not. I just planning to use it for two years then throw away, because I want to save the hassle for transferring my car to Sarawak. I'm a bit skeptical, I afraid I end up wasting more money to maintain & repair the car. Or you think I should raise my budget ? All in all, RM5000 car worth ?
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post Aug 25 2016, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(jayzshadower @ Aug 25 2016, 02:50 PM)
Some very old local model ? Basically I just wonder can RM 5000 car really work or not. I just planning to use it for two years then throw away, because I want to save the hassle for transferring my car to Sarawak. I'm a bit skeptical, I afraid I end up wasting more money to maintain & repair the car. Or you think I should raise my budget ? All in all, RM5000 car worth ?
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have you checked out what you can get for 5k?

anyway even an old car will work if maintained properly, My own car is 21 years old, no major issues, just need to replace wear and tear parts whistling.gif. So whether it works or not, depends on the condition of the vehicle. Whether u want to raise your budget solely depends on you, what you want/accept in a car kekekeke
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post Aug 25 2016, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Arche_ling @ Aug 19 2016, 03:17 PM)
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2014 Suzuki Kizashi - you think too small, why not get a superb car like this? Viva to Bezza might be an upgrade from going from Viva to a Kizashi would be like a caveman going from riding dinosaurs to flying the Millennium Falcon. If you can afford such an upgrade in terms of upkeep (fuel, tax, and maintenance) why not? If you can't then see below.

14/15 VW Polo Sedan - get a nice low mileage pre-reg demo car from VW, you'd still get fully warranty and assurance that the car was maintained properly at VW, if it wasn't then you can always take it up with VW, if you got any problems buying from a used car dealer or individual then you're hard on luck. And it is a much better value for you, although it is technically still a B-segment but it has some C-segment qualities such as it's large size, comfortable & classy interior, rear aircon vents, etc.

QUOTE(KinggJulez @ Aug 20 2016, 06:28 PM)
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It is a very new car, don't expect much discounts for it.
Unless you're getting a pre-reg or stock clearance model.
I'd say the asking price is reflective of that, a price i'd say is astronomical, might as well top-up for a new car.
67k with higher interest rates or 80k with lower new car interest rates....do the calculations the net sum might be the same sweat.gif

Oh and don't put so much hope in the SC.
Their job is to service car not help people check car before they buy a used mazda.

QUOTE(strawberry.my @ Aug 21 2016, 03:23 PM)
Bro, if all car dealer is not trustable then with no choice we have to buy from direct owner?
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i say kenot fully trust, not kenot trust.

QUOTE(yefox @ Aug 21 2016, 05:19 PM)
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When you buy the car you need to transfer insurance and roadtax to your name anyway so that extra 1500 isn't really a deal breaker.

The mileage on the car is quite high, plus it is a 2009 car, meaning in 3 years it will be a 10 year old car.
By then the mileage will surely be over 200k km.
I'd say the stuff he put in is probably nice but quite worthless.
I'd say he is a guy that has already fully utilised the car and looking for his next buy.
A hand me down like that from a family member is fine but to shell out 40k for it, maybe not.

2014 Nissan Almera - lets you want a better car around 40k why not pick a car like this, in terms of fuel consumption they're probably equally just as terrible but the Almera is more spacious with a stretched rear so more leg room for people sitting behind. It comes with what looks like OEM bodykit and sport rims as well, why not consider that? Not having leather seats isn't really a deal breaker because usually the extra RM2000-RM4000 for the leather option when people buy a new car is fitted by 3rd party appointed companies so that if anything happen you'll still have warranty but if you fit your own leather seats and something happens like airbag deployed then they won't cover it -- anyway besides warranty issues the leather seats doesn't come from "honda" it's 3rd party and usually the quality is decent but if you want better ones you can fit it yourself. Unless you're talking about BMW's or Merc's those that come with leather as standard are fitted at the factory is it is 100% original.

2009 Nissan Latio - if you don't mind a 2009 car then why not choose the Latio it is much cheaper at only 25k so ridiculously cheap your monthly probably around rm200 only...benefits of the Latio? bla bla what i usually say laugh.gif

QUOTE(suadrif @ Aug 21 2016, 08:37 PM)
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I cannot see the first link, the second link is a mazda5 mpv i see.
That Mazda is a good car, is well spec'ed and depreciated alot from it's original price.
Quite a good buy but of course the only thing you might have to content with is the maintenance.
It isn't as common as an Avanza but not as rare as a Scenic, so expect maintenance and parts to be above average in price if you compare to anything from Toyota (budget asswipes like to talk about this) but be reminded you're in a car much nicer to drive and be inside than most Toyota's of this price range.

Wish got rear aircon, stream doesn't.

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post Aug 25 2016, 04:12 PM

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2012 Nissan X-Gear - this is the 5 seater version of the Nissan Livina, same platform but shorter only. I think it fits your uses well, although it doesn't come with ISOFIX points for baby seats there is generous amount of space in this car for baby car seats. It is a car with a tall roof so no worries for you getting bumped around on the inside. Maintenance for this is pretty straightforward and doesn't cost much because it is using quite basic technology -- no fancy dual clutch or CVT transmission to muck it up. ISOFIX seats are only now becoming standard equipment so if you want them the few cars that have them are VW cars and Honda Jazz Hybrid. Some of those can fit your budget but might be a pain in the maintenance front.

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Elgrand and Elysion imho are much better in terms of build quality, class and features but upkeep is going to be high. Alphard would be the cheapest to upkeep for this range of luxo mpv.

QUOTE(phonebraver @ Aug 24 2016, 09:37 AM)
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2011 Honda Civic 1.8 - don't muck about with B-segment cars anymore with that kind of budget, get a good car. The Civic FD although it is 2 generations older than the current one it is more handsome and reliable -- the new turbo is nice but there have been issues with it and Honda is trying to cover up. Well this one doesn't have those push button start and keyless entry like Nissan or Korean cars but if you like those you can buy the crap shit Korean cars with lots of accessories and features but cry when you go service the car the maintenance is expensive then feel like someone kick your nuts when your Korean 2000cc lump loses to a Myvi at the highway. What this Civic offers you is power, reliability, and cheap maintenance (for it's segment don't expect rm50 per service like a kancil). I purposely show you this advert with the stock condition FD1 (1800cc) because it is better to always buy a car as stock as possible because owners that modify their cars aren't good thing for used car buyers plus the FD1 is superb in terms of FC and power for highway is not bad.....you can go 200kmh without noticing the speed.

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Well the two things that the Latio would excel at if you're talking about it as a package in terms of used car is that it is the cheapest c-segment you can buy which isn't too old or pocket burner to maintain.

You can go for the pre-facelift 2007-2009 models floating around the market at 20-27k
You can go for the newer or better spec models (in terms of accessories) floating around the market at 32k-50k

In that range there are competitors but the 3 things of young car + cheap maintenance + cheap to buy, usually pushes my favor for it.

Of course a Vios might be cheaper to maintain and might be more reliable but due to better RV it is always more older for the same price vs other cars.

The city i'd say give it a miss because the better one with the CVT is too old, the one just before the current one has a better interior and highway stability but fc is terrible.










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post Aug 25 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(jayzshadower @ Aug 24 2016, 04:18 PM)
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Slim pickings for this price point but let's try...

1999 Proton Wira 1.5 - this is one of the few that from visual inspection only i think it hasn't been in an accident or the mechanic did a superb job, the shut lines are nice and clean and the paint job looks worn yet uniform so most likely original paint. As for the interior i can't really see without pictures but stay away with cars that have been modified.

1996 Toyota Camry - looks in decent condition but the bodykit and paint is surely not original, plus he installed an NGV kit onto the car, well i'm not sure what maintenance penalty that would mean but it is a quite a cheap car to maintain if in stock condition.

QUOTE(johnm @ Aug 24 2016, 09:49 PM)
1. Brand - Toyota Camry 2006 model
2. Budget -
3. New/Used/Unreg. : Used  - single owner
4. Specs.: Reach from point A to B enough
5. Transmission: Auto
6. NA or FI ? :
7. Type.: Sedan
8. Remarks.: Mileage 100.000km Accident free

How much would this car be worth todays market if one was to sell? Thanks
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Mileage quite ok for the age but it is 10 years old, if you sell it earlier easier for people to loan it, now you're pretty much stuck with it until it depreciate to around less than 20k for people to afford it as a cash buy.
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Is it true that Toyota Vios is cheaper to maintain and more reliable compared to Nissan Latio/other nissan?

Zenix brand wise on Jap/Korean cars how would u sort/rank them according to maintenance and reliability?

e.g. would you say in terms of maintenance: Toyota < Nissan < Honda < Mazda (oh what other cars we got here..), and then in terms of reliability how u rank them?
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post Aug 25 2016, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Aug 25 2016, 04:12 PM)
2012 Nissan X-Gear - this is the 5 seater version of the Nissan Livina, same platform but shorter only. I think it fits your uses well, although it doesn't come with ISOFIX points for baby seats there is generous amount of space in this car for baby car seats. It is a car with a tall roof so no worries for you getting bumped around on the inside. Maintenance for this is pretty straightforward and doesn't cost much because it is using quite basic technology -- no fancy dual clutch or CVT transmission to muck it up. ISOFIX seats are only now becoming standard equipment so if you want them the few cars that have them are VW cars and Honda Jazz Hybrid. Some of those can fit your budget but might be a pain in the maintenance front.
Elgrand and Elysion imho are much better in terms of build quality, class and features but upkeep is going to be high. Alphard would be the cheapest to upkeep for this range of luxo mpv.
2011 Honda Civic 1.8 - don't muck about with B-segment cars anymore with that kind of budget, get a good car. The Civic FD although it is 2 generations older than the current one it is more handsome and reliable -- the new turbo is nice but there have been issues with it and Honda is trying to cover up. Well this one doesn't have those push button start and keyless entry like Nissan or Korean cars but if you like those you can buy the crap shit Korean cars with lots of accessories and features but cry when you go service the car the maintenance is expensive then feel like someone kick your nuts when your Korean 2000cc lump loses to a Myvi at the highway. What this Civic offers you is power, reliability, and cheap maintenance (for it's segment don't expect rm50 per service like a kancil). I purposely show you this advert with the stock condition FD1 (1800cc) because it is better to always buy a car as stock as possible because owners that modify their cars aren't good thing for used car buyers plus the FD1 is superb in terms of FC and power for highway is not bad.....you can go 200kmh without noticing the speed.
Well the two things that the Latio would excel at if you're talking about it as a package in terms of used car is that it is the cheapest c-segment you can buy which isn't too old or pocket burner to maintain.

You can go for the pre-facelift 2007-2009 models floating around the market at 20-27k
You can go for the newer or better spec models (in terms of accessories) floating around the market at 32k-50k

In that range there are competitors but the 3 things of young car + cheap maintenance + cheap to buy, usually pushes my favor for it.

Of course a Vios might be cheaper to maintain and might be more reliable but due to better RV it is always more older for the same price vs other cars.

The city i'd say give it a miss because the better one with the CVT is too old, the one just before the current one has a better interior and highway stability but fc is terrible.
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Okay tq Zenix. Btw does the facelift 2010 version has changed much regardless of its physical appearance?
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QUOTE(zenix @ Aug 25 2016, 04:26 PM)
Slim pickings for this price point but let's try...

1999 Proton Wira 1.5 - this is one of the few that from visual inspection only i think it hasn't been in an accident or the mechanic did a superb job, the shut lines are nice and clean and the paint job looks worn yet uniform so most likely original paint. As for the interior i can't really see without pictures but stay away with cars that have been modified.

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ngv camry.... back then (10 years ago maybe) it was considered to be a quite complex. ngv = more heat, not very nais to drive..... hope fully the guy's system can be optimized (configure ecu settings) for both petrol and gas modes otherwise its going to be absolute crap for one of the modes (have experience driving an ngv corona and satria (dont ask why a satria was fitted with ngv lol)
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QUOTE(zenix @ Aug 25 2016, 03:47 PM)
I cannot see the first link, the second link is a mazda5 mpv i see.
That Mazda is a good car, is well spec'ed and depreciated alot from it's original price.
Quite a good buy but of course the only thing you might have to content with is the maintenance.
It isn't as common as an Avanza but not as rare as a Scenic, so expect maintenance and parts to be above average in price if you compare to anything from Toyota (budget asswipes like to talk about this) but be reminded you're in a car much nicer to drive and be inside than most Toyota's of this price range.

Wish got rear aircon, stream doesn't.
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unfortunately the first link was dropped out sweat.gif
i am comparing between an old Toyota Estima Year 2002 with Mazda 5 since it is within my annual budget range.
RM50k for initial cost for either both of this but unable to decide which is better.

But so far i haven't seen any Wish with rear aircond? confused.gif
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might be my last reply for sometime....busy bangwall.gif

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Roughly....this is my feel of the market prices for maintenance and parts.

Honda : some models cheap to maintain but some aren't but the good thing is honda always provides the latest technology in their cars. so they're actually value for money coz cheap + new tech. that's why this brand is on top.
Toyota = Nissan : cheapest to maintain and usually very reliable but most of the time hardly can get latest technology from either of their offerings.
Mazda = Suzuki = Mitsubishi = Kia = Hyundai: due to economics of scale they aren't as cheap as the tier above them in general but some models are cheap.
Subaru = Isuzu = Ford: due to economics of scale they aren't as cheap as the tier above them in general but some models are cheap.

QUOTE(nasbbq1992 @ Aug 25 2016, 04:35 PM)
Okay tq Zenix. Btw does the facelift 2010 version has changed much regardless of its physical appearance?
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You're talking about which model?
Latio facelift not much difference except grille looks abit different, and the 1800cc engine option also available on the hatch.

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well, if all else fails just remove the NGV and sell the kit to someone else.

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Estima: that old better forget it.
Wish: The older rounder one or the newer sleeker one?

If you want Toyota can consider the new Sienta? laugh.gif
If used car I think the Innova is a decent buy but no sliding doors and interior comfort is just slightly better than Avanza puke.gif


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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Aug 25 2016, 09:32 AM)
technically speaking... its never worth it to sell a car.. you always lose. Its a buyers market, many sellers few buyers (yours is around 20 so loans might be urm..... rclxub.gif for buyers)

early 06 (less uncle-like, xv40 camry) and late batch 06 (more uncle-like, xv30 camry) were 2 diferent camries iirc, not sure which camry you own~ also theres the 2.4 and 2.0
you can check mudah for the prices, xv30's are around 30+k while the xv40's are around 50+k
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Thanks for reply. It's a 2.0G. Not sure about the batch as its a friends car and not able to get the detail at present.

Will check out .Mudah. Thanks again

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post Aug 25 2016, 08:37 PM

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Dear All, i need some advice recently i plan to buy a 2014 pre own hyundai I40 price at 92k. I already search a lot of post but really not much info about it seem like not very popular car. Can someone share the pro and cons of this car? and it is 92k a reasonable price?

1. Brand : Hyundai I40
2. Budget : 92k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Pre-Own.
4. Specs : sedan plus
5. Transmission : Auto
6. Type : Sedan.

Thanks You so much.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Aug 25 2016, 03:47 PM)
i say kenot fully trust, not kenot trust.
What about Topmark?
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QUOTE(phonebraver @ Aug 25 2016, 03:22 PM)
Other than Perodua & Proton, any other recommendation?
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I recommend you to buy Used Honda City 2011(http://www.mudah.my/2011+Honda+City+1+5+A+-48134577.htm)and Used Honda Civic 2011(http://www.mudah.my/2011+Honda+Civic+1+8+A+MEMANG+BEST+SPEC-47478492.htm)

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QUOTE(strawberry.my @ Aug 25 2016, 09:58 PM)
What about Topmark?
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topmark is one of the more reputable guys... but in general if the salesman says A, you check if A is indeed true, if he says B, check and double check to see if B is true

let me put it this way, if the sales man says something make sure its true, dont take his word just like that, end of the day all they want is for you to drive one of their cars away...... I myself will make it a point to try prove him wrong even if i like the car.
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Aug 26 2016, 11:35 AM)
topmark is one of the more reputable guys... but in general if the salesman says A, you check if A is indeed true, if he says B, check and double check to see if B is true

let me put it this way, if the sales man says something make sure its true, dont take his word just like that, end of the day all they want is for you to drive one of their cars away...... I myself will make it a point to try prove him wrong even if i like the car.
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I sometimes see them in Toyota roadshow. Unfortunately, their website dun have a lots of choices.
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QUOTE(bowl @ Aug 25 2016, 08:37 PM)
Dear All, i need some advice recently i plan to buy a 2014 pre own hyundai I40 price at 92k. I already search a lot of post but really not much info about it seem like not very popular car. Can someone share the pro and cons of this car? and it is 92k a reasonable price?

1. Brand : Hyundai I40
2. Budget : 92k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Pre-Own.
4. Specs : sedan plus
5. Transmission : Auto
6. Type : Sedan.

Thanks You so much.
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u wanna buy a used hyundai for 92k?

user posted image

here are some cars you can buy for 90k

2011 Nissan Juke 1.5(A) TURBO + Push Start

2010 Toyota RAV4 2.4(A) Recaro seats!

2016 Toyota Wish 1.8(A) Facelift

those are pretty good cars.

QUOTE(strawberry.my @ Aug 25 2016, 09:58 PM)
What about Topmark?
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"salesman" not company.
generally all big used car companies have to do business above board.
especially guys that wannabe the best examples in the industry like Topmark & MUV.
however, the issue is the salesman.
usually nice and honest salesman don't last in the industry coz kenot cari makan.
gotta becareful of the slick bastards that will over charge you or not give you much discount.

or those sole proprietors at the road side....those be-careful 9 9

QUOTE(strawberry.my @ Aug 26 2016, 07:11 PM)
I sometimes see them in Toyota roadshow. Unfortunately, their website dun have a lots of choices.
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because they are selling used cars their stock is always floating.
it is quite a pain to keep updating.
usually the ones cannot sell are always on the website.
i'd suggest you go to the nearest showroom if you wanna see fresh stock.
sometimes the better ones already booked.

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