ahhh makes much more sense!!! then avoid the modified carslah.... saga/persona or bezza if you want something new

if u considering suprima becoz of the turbo.
forget it.
it is pretty tame and useless.
after the initial fun period after you've adjusted to the speed.
you'll find it is always getting beaten by anything with a 1800cc engine on the highways.

you're better off checking what is common there then only choose.
you don't wanna buy something where the service center is 40km away from where you live.

if you're not willing to commit to high expenses i'd suggest you go with something cheaper to maintain.
although running cost for a honda civic ek standard isn't going to break the bank but one with a b18 heart will.
even if you choose a standard ek there is no guarantee it will be cheap for the first few months untl you sort out all the of gremlins.

If you really keen on your dream, look for a stock EK and build it yourself over the time. U will need to spend more ofcos, but less headache since all the parts is chosen by you, good or bad.

Hi, by this coming Christmas i will be father of two. Currently driving a 1994 yo wira 4G91. Wish to get one MPV or at least SUV with 7 seater because every weekend i will bring along my mum and youngest sis to turn around in Johor Bahru and sometime to Melacca or KL.

My budget is around 80K of cause if valuable slightly increase on budget is ok for me too. I trying to lower the monthly installment so it wont bring lot burden for me by monthly.

Below is some car i found, but welcome to recommend other than the list.

1. Proton Exora 1.6 CFE
2. Estima 2.4cc
3. Hyundai Santa Fe
4. Nissan Serena S-Hybrid (Around 88k)
5. Kia Rondo

My request is the car must be spacious, last row got aircon, safe and reliable, FC is ok as long as don't too extreme.

To me, the most comfortable and spacious would Serena...hands down...furthermore its hybrid

The others are small in comparison for a 7 seater; especially the luggage compartment

i think you better summon zenix I know close to peanuts when it comes to mpv's all i can do is throw more into the mix and confuse you hehe

exora bold
-probably one of the better options if you ask me... good value for $
-spacious 3rd row + ac vents for everyone!!
-plastic quality aint great if you ask me... (but not gona claim much worse)

Grand Livina,
-simple mpv, will get you places

if you can afford an estima (plus the tax for that fat 2.4) you can probably consider these as well....
Stream/wish/Grandis
-they are very similar in many ways, all are japanese, all are relatively reliable, maintanance figures are also very similar
-just dif features?

Serena is the nicest and highest tech of the lot.. but most exp as well.... maintanance long term would be higher as well... (hybrid, more things to jaga)

dont like rondo's~

*best get opinions elsewhere... again, i know peanuts~

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Nov 7 2016, 06:05 PM

They are all pretty close to my house. Toyota corolla is no.3 best selling and Hyundai i30 is no.4 best selling in Australia. Toyota hilux come 1st and Ford ranger come 2nd.

I have inspect the i30 elite 1.6diesel, it's aud 13500 drive away with half year road tax. Regular service every 15000 and it only cost around 2xx for minor service and 5xx for major service.

Currently offer the guy 12000 and would see how it goes.

Just forget about the Exora, Santa Fe and Rondo.
They're utter crap in the long run.
Exora even with turbo is gutless on the highway especially with 4 adults onboard.
Santa Fe and Rondo may be cheap to buy and seem to have alot of "accessories" but overtime the upkeep won't be worth it especially with Estima and Serena available within budget range.

Estima the most headache part is getting the right spec because basically recon dealers bring in only two spec the 2.4 and 3.5, although the 3.5 v6 would be nice to have on the highways the maintenance bill and roadtax isn't too friendly, but usually it will be the one with the highest spec like power doors x2, power boot, rev cam, etc.

I think the 2.4 would be better for you but beware as some dealers advertise a 3.5 as a 2.4 just to grab the customer to the lot then try and use his salesman skills to close the deal. pitfalls for the 2.4 is the spec, some spec really kosong only 1 power door, some got 2 power door, those got power boot can be considered full spec but hard to find usually it is a 3.5 advertised as 2.4 to lure customers.

As a used car the 3.5 and 2.4 are priced around the same so it really depends on what you want.

The 2.4 has a similar engine to camry and is the more common one on the road so cheaper upkeep. Might be a little sluggish in town with start stop traffic with a full load but on highway it is capable enough.

serena is also a good buy, the hybrid part is like F1 KERS system where it is just used as a boost for pickup, just drive normally and ignore it you can even turn it off......the battery for it is very small coz it is just meant as a boost not a true hybrid....if the hybrid system fails totally it just reverts back to a regular 2.0 no biggie. uses the same 2.0 as the teana/sylphy which is why the electric boost is needed for some oomph. all in all should be pretty cheap to upkeep and cheaper roadtax than estima but imho it is rather ugly.

When people say spacious mpv they're not looking for "c-segment" mpv's like stream/wish/isis/livina/exora.....they're looking for "d-segment" or full size mpv's like estima/grandis/serena/odyssey

i think you can do better.
my sister got a mitsubishi asx for around AUD7000-8000 i think it was only about a 3-4 year old car.
since you're new to straya lemme share something with you.
locals never buy a car they cannot buy by cash or pay for it within a year or less.
i would say that i30 is on the higher end, unless you really like it then different case.
if u looking for a good deal, that ain't it.

I am paying cash as well for the car. I am not new in Australia, I had been studied at here for 4 years following by 4 years working life, but just recently got my PR. The problem is I always got company ute to drive around (Toyota Hilux or Ford Ranger) and this is the first time to buy a car in Australia.

A used Mitsubishi ASX automatic is selling for $13k, your sister definitely got a steal from that deal.
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details...D-4231156/?Cr=7



This post has been edited by sleepy 1: Nov 8 2016, 09:34 AM

year end vs new year, when is the good time to buy used car?

my logic is:

year end : got year end promo, salesmen racing to meet their sales quota (dunno true or not)

new year : add 1 more year car's age, hence the price drop

personal opinion? none of the above....
'year end promo'?? they hari hari also promolah~~
'1 more year car's age, hence the price drop'?? meh... sama je..... drops after sitting for a long time (might only apply to rarer cars)

best would be to find a car which is being sold for the 'right' reasons, even better if the owner is desperate~~
pro: can occour any time of the year
con: damned rare, u got to know what you want and actively look for it

You've got more experience than me there.
I'm in/out since I've family there.
But one thing is true no matter where you go.....service center and volume.
The more common the car the cheaper it would be for stockist/service center to keep parts for it as there is always demand.
The more common a car also means more service centers or outside workshops also make it a point to know the car so they can also profit from regular maintanence of the cars.

This is why like in UK the brand Ford is tops but in Malaysia it is failing.....not enough service centers and parts are bloody expensive.

rich dad logic: everyday also got problem if you got money.

poor dad logic: buy what you NEED at a price you can AFFORD. so dream car

salesman dad logic: buy after big season promotion like year end, cny, raya.....coz before these months usually salesman stack up orders to deliver before the festive period so customers can wayang drive back to kampung with new car.....but month after that hangus coz no sales.

I am decided to buy the car. He actually bought it on April 2013, the model don't change from 2012 to 2014, the car still with manufacturer warranty until April 2018. Would let u know how it go at the end. Thanks

between the bezza and saga which one does the sifus here preferred?

i think its quite an easy choice between these 2? (if the price isnt a concern ofc)

Hi sifus,

Brand : Any (preferably sedan)
Budget : Rm25k
Used/New/Unreg : used or new
Transmission : auto

Remarks : Been doing some research so is it better to buy from direct seller? Or is anyone can intro some "trustworthy" car dealer that'd be great

Edit: also if looking for older car (10years+), what are some great models or are there any that I should stay away from?


This post has been edited by InuS.Ki: Nov 12 2016, 03:21 PM

shop
+ you can view a plethora of cars
+ easier process, insurance transfer matters all handled
- trustworthy?? well wont trust anyone (even owners). Anyone might cheat you, and chances that the average buyer finding out is slim to none if damage or issues are covered up by some who knows what he/she is doing
- more expensive (including processing fees and whatever crap they can throw at you)

direct seller
+ usually cheaper (usually much cheaper)
- you can usually only view one car at one time (unless you go to somehing like the sunday car market in pj, tho should note that nice cheaper cars are very quickly swiped by dealers)
- could be lying but since they dont do this for a living, possibility reduced not negated
- buying process is alittle more complex if done yourself

Edit: also if looking for older car (10years+), what are some great models or are there any that I should stay away from?
What kind of car are you looking for? What are your priorities?

decent cars:
-latio
-sentra
-city (check tranny)
-persona, large simple cheap
-saga, even simpler~

i like: (avoid if you dont know how to jaga/maintain cars or are working with a very limited budget)
-e36

avoid:
- s class merc
- 7 series beemer
too many sillychoices to list

Curious why to avoid S class and 7 series?

well, anyone with 25k to throw at a car, probably does not want to spend the same amount (or more) trying to refurbish/maintain it.

The only people that should even consider such a car are collectors and enthusiasts..... (which if one is either, would not even have to ask what car to get )

7 series , S Class is too expensive to own it

But 7 series F02 is pretty than S Class