1991 Toyota Cygnus 1.5 - if you're looking for something rare and outstanding but you can buy cash this would be something, honestly i haven't checked out what engine this car uses but a 1500cc from 1991 i'm guessing it won't be something similar to the Vios/Soluna but something that would be similar to Corolla's of the time. I don't really think it is an engine parts issue, but body panels would be an issue. If I were to buy this the first thing I would do is bring it to a fibreglass bodykit shop to get the bumpers cloned, yes it might be messy and you'd need to repaint the bumpers later on but better than ruining it then cannot find parts for it especially with rainy weather nowadays fender benders are bound to happen, cross your fingers.

2000 Proton Putra 1.8 - if you cannot afford to buy cash then I think you'd still be able to get a personal loan from the bank like 3 years for older cars. I would say this car would fit the bill, it is automatic (although only a 4 speeder and seems ancient by today's standards it is well built and reliable, plus rear ratio's are pretty good for most usages), handling is quite good and probably only loses out to SGTI in that respect, parts isn't an issue for almost everything except the rear end which isn't shared with any other model but still plenty around at chop shops so don't worry, fuel consumption by today's standards is pretty terrible so expect about 300km-400km per full tank only at grandma speed, the rest would be similar to SGTI/Wira 1.8

Of course you could buy the Satria Neo

Not that I wanna hurt VW sales but if someone ask me about their cars the only ones I'd suggest are the ones with a 2000cc turbo and 6 speed DSG, until now I cannot fully trust those 1400cc twinchargers with 7 speed DSG. So that leaves the Jetta out.

Civic is a decent choice but give it some time unless you really wanna be the first few people in your area to drive one as there are complaints about the turbo and gearbox (although mostly should be fixed by software upgrades).

Mazda3 Skyactiv is a great choice, it has the performance and looks of a sports car. They are pretty reliable too nowadays. Only bad spot is part prices and maintenance cost but that can be offset by the 5 years warranty and any free service program you can get.

2012 Toyota Mark X - however if I were you I'd also consider some superb buys in the recon market for such a price, of course there are BMW 3-series and Mercedes C-Class unreg for around that price but the maintenance and upkeep can be scary, so picking a Japanese D-segment is more prudent. Upkeep for the Mark X would be around the same as taking care of an Accord/Camry 2.4, although it doesn't share any parts with the Camry sold in Malaysia the 2.5cc V6 engine used in this model is the same as the one used in the previous Mark X model since 2004 (yes, they just reuse, refined and upgraded the engine little by little like what they did with the Vios) which is good news as there are alot of ready made parts and mods in the market -- and the Lexus IS 250 from before facelift until current "garang" version also uses the same engine. So parts isn't much of an issue. Performance? C'mon 2500cc v6 means smooth and less vibration with lotsa power on highways they don't simply put crappy engines in top tier cars like Mark X and IS250, and the model in this advert is the latest 2012 facelift with AWD system. The closes sports sedan in this price range with AWD is the Subaru Impreza WRX/STI but it is a C-segment and more expensive to keep.

Mitsubishi Pajero Sport, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota Fortuner -- can't think of others and not much into this market though I think the safer bets are the Japanese models.

Unless Toyota disastrously gets it wrong the CVT from them shouldn't have any major hiccups.
From what I've notice Toyota is very pragmatic and would always appeal to customers that want reliability and cheap to maintain over new technology.
Honda has been bitten a few times trying to push new technology to the consumer level too fast with recalls.
Toyota so far has been slow to introduce new technology and always prefer to use mature and reliable tech for their cars instead.

quick question for new car:

Buy now - End year sales
Buy 2017 - For 2016 cars

I have a spare car to loan, so not really an issue to wait. worth it? bezza / myvi in mind (or others if good offer haha)

Just saw one Alphard 8 seater 2.4 selling 94K OTR, 2007 years. Isn't worth to grab or easy to maintain? Thinking should either get one cheap cheap exora use it for coming 5-7 years or straight get one reliable car for many years. Ask uncle all said Toyota good, but i need more reliable source than uncle uncle hear their "friends said"

How about 2013 preve ? Btw, mind share your opinion on the pro and cons between this two ? I know this two are not in the same segment.

My dad wants to get a Merc. What's the best dealership to get a Merc? Hap Seng Star, NZ Wheels or Cycle&Carriage? Thanks a lot guys!

you do realize that both vehicles are completely diferent.... maintanance and running costs are sosososoooo diferent...

if you just want something to get you from a to b, the saga will do fine.

if you want a larger car take the preve BUT personally feel that the campro models are (in my opinion, mine and only mine) not worth a look. Its gutless, sluggish and the fc isnt great (on the bad side). The cfe's are alright... maintanance is higher no doubt but it is powerful enough for most people.

Yeah, i do understand of cause. I just thinking to spend RM50K+- for one exora or better top up more RM40K+- to get Japanese car like Estima or Alphard. Isn't worth?
From my point of views:

Exora
Pro: Cheap and big, spacious, aircon on every row, local car easy to get parts, instalment cheap
Cons: Quality? Reliable? No keyless?

My point is to get a car than can drive for long run and easy to maintain, and of cause, i understand that MPV their FC roughly won't be good, but don be worst too.

well long as you have some spare cash and are prepared to fix stuff abit....

drive for long run - both also no problems~
easy to maintain - to be fair, both cars are pretty reliable, exora just need to maintain the turbo sikit, but other than that hose issue, there isnt many issues with it mechanically.
running cost - the japs will cost more, spare parts, insurance and road tax (ROADTAX amounts to quite a large difference here if you take the high end oveer 2.4L models)

BREAKING NEWS (Nov 18, 2016)

Proton to enter into strategic foreign partnership

By Karen Arukesamy and Haikal Jalil (thesundaily.com)

KUALA LUMPUR (Nov 18, 2016): National car maker Proton is expected to enter into a strategic partnership agreement with an original equipment manufacturer (OEM) on March 31 next year.
Deputy International Trade and Industry Minister Datuk Ahmad Maslan said Proton would do an in-depth evaluation of two or three companies shortlisted to pick the best foreign partner.
“This will help spur Proton’s research and development, enabling it to become a viable and competitive car maker at the international level,” he said.
Ahmad said Proton began looking for a potential strategic partner in June by sending out requests for proposals to 14 OEMs.
Earlier, while responding to a supplementary question by Che Rosli Che Mat (PAS-Hulu Langat), Ahmad said Proton cars have not been able to attract a high local market as compared to Perodua cars because they do not have the Energy Efficient Vehicle (EEV) feature in its models.
Ahmad explained that this is because Proton does not have a foreign partner to produce EEVs at a lower cost.
“I think the main reason is because Perodua cars are EEV models and have become the choice of users.
“It is not easy to have this EEV feature. Proton still has not manufactured car models with EEV,” he said.
Che Rosli had asked the reason for a huge disparity in the sales volumes between Proton and Perodua.
Ahmad said the rebranding and research and development process can cost up to RM1 billion.
“Proton doesn’t have a foreign partner whereas Perodua has one.
“Thus the cost to create an EEV model is cheaper, while Proton still has not been able to manufacture such models,” he said.

Totally agree! I'd rather drive even the old first gen Mark X (GRX120) anytime any day then any of the new C-segments or D-segments in that price range now.
That AWD Mark X is very rare though, very seldom see on the market and in our club only 1 guy has it.

Hi sifus

1. Brand : Non-national (No proton/perodua)
2. Budget : max rm150k
3. New/Used/Unreg : new
4. Specs : electronic stability control is a must, good fuel consumption, easy and relatively cheap to maintain even after warranty ends, adequate airbags, good range of spec
5. Transmission : Auto (CVT or cenventional)
6. NA or FI : either
7. Type : MPV or SUV for 6/7 people
8. Remarks : commute Seremban-Cheras for work daily

nissan xtrail- very small space for back 2 seats
alphard/velfire, starex are too big
thinking of sorento or santa fe (with discount)... waiting for BRV

currently using exora bold cps...

any other options?

thanks

This post has been edited by mdnurman: Nov 20 2016, 12:16 AM

Brand : any
Budget : below 100k
Used/New/Unreg : New
Transmission : auto

Looking for with priority given in the following order
1.FC
2.cost of maintainance
3.performance/comfort
4.Price

make it 'around 100k' and you can consider the mazda 3 and the city.....

How about mazda 2? Also how is mazda after sale service?

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : Below 100k
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Full Spec
5. Transmission : Automatic
6. NA or FI : Any
7. Type : 7 seater MPV .
8. Remarks : 2nd row air cond blower, decent FC,

So you're in a hurry to part with your money?

The two are very different animals.
Exora is based off a C-segment platform thus the back row of seats aren't too comfy, think Wish/Stream/Livina.
Alphard is much more comfortable yet a 2007 car as you know it is going to be a 10 year old car next year.
Maintenance wise if you look at other MPV's in it's class it is probably "cheap" to maintain but if you compare it against things like Exora well it is exorbitant.

NZ does alot of recons.
HSS iinm is a top tier reseller.
C&C is the national distributor.

Then get Estima, it is so common parts are cheap.

Too bad I'm not in a position right now to buy it, else I'm first in line for that AWD MX.

The AWD version is a bit heavier and only using 5 speed though, so a bit slower than the RWD versions, but of course safer in the wet.

Honda BRV would be the equivalent to Toyota Rush.
A B-segment base SUV designed for 7 people.
Toyota Rush was built from the same platform as the Toyota Avanza.
Thus in a nutshell you can think of it as an Avanza with AWD and slightly better interior.
Toyota Rush didn't do so well, I suppose when 90% is the same as Toyota Avanza people expect it to be max max 85-95k not over 100k.
I don't think the Honda BRV will be any better.
Most likely built on the same platform which gives us the Jazz, City, and HRV.
I'm expecting them to stretch the platform to fit in that extra row of seats and do some clever sporty design to cover it up nicely.
Drive trains would probably be similar to what those 3 are running now either a 1500 or 1800cc with CVT or 5AT.

If you're complaining about the X-Trail's rear seats then Honda BRV might not be any better.
Unless it would be acceptable to you if the BRV is much cheaper than Xtrail?

Just go for the Honda City.

Below 100k?
Probably only Nissan Grand Livina, Toyota Wish (recon), Honda Stream (recon), and Proton Exora would fit the bill.

How about Toyota Avanza or Proton Ertiga (release soon)? Will this be a good buy compare to the above?