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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.13, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Jul 1 2016, 02:11 AM

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Went to HL to transfer out matured FD, was offered 4.05% for 12 months, no need fresh fund. But I have decided to transfer to UOB. IBG charge is RM2.15.

They have also promo rate for senior citizen, above 50 yrs old, fresh fund 12 months at 4.3% but must keep RM1000 in saving account. Didnt ask in detail coz wasnt that keen as I am trying to consolidate my FD in the most 4 banks. Moreover I didnt log in for quite some times, may be this deal already been reported
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post Jul 1 2016, 02:16 AM

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hi guys

im very new with finance so would like to ask some noob questions.

whats the best ratio to put into FD from all your wealth?

lets say you have 1m of cash. how much are you guys putting it into FD. 50%? 30%?

of course considering your risk profile and everything, but just wanted to know the average ratio for people here in lowyat.

cheers!
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post Jul 1 2016, 05:37 AM

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QUOTE(blackseed202 @ Jul 1 2016, 02:16 AM)
hi guys

im very new with finance so would like to ask some noob questions.

whats the best ratio to put into FD from all your wealth?

lets say you have 1m of cash. how much are you guys putting it into FD. 50%? 30%?

of course considering your risk profile and everything, but just wanted to know the average ratio for people here in lowyat.

cheers!
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Depending on whether you want to use the money in near future or not. If all these are extra money, then can put 100%, unless you want to reserve some for other investment. ....

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post Jul 1 2016, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Jul 1 2016, 02:11 AM)
Went to HL to transfer out matured FD, was offered 4.05% for 12 months, no need fresh fund. But I have decided to transfer to UOB. IBG charge is RM2.15.

They have also promo rate for senior citizen, above 50 yrs old, fresh fund 12 months at 4.3% but must keep RM1000 in saving account. Didnt ask in detail coz wasnt that keen as I am trying to consolidate my FD in the most 4 banks. Moreover I didnt log in for quite  some times, may be this deal already been reported
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unker goat reported tis. the 4.3% 12 mth for senior in hl, keep rm1000 in one new sa (some harvest sa?). but can take out next day.

now july 1, so not sure still there? hmm.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 08:55 AM

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I went to Affin bank yesterday for the 4.5% fd deal. According to the bank officer, still have limited quota but may not last till Aug 31st.

I'm also looking for short term FD deal. So far, I can see HLB and Alliance have 4% or above.
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post Jul 1 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(ftan @ Jul 1 2016, 08:55 AM)
I went to Affin bank yesterday for the 4.5% fd deal. According to the bank officer, still have limited quota but may not last till Aug 31st.

I'm also looking for short term FD deal. So far, I can see HLB and Alliance have 4% or above.
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which branch did you go to?
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post Jul 1 2016, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jun 30 2016, 06:04 PM)
The story illustrates the question of good days since people did not understand that the main idea was to avoid bad days at the end of the month. This is becuz somebody got the wrong idea that I was talking about specific good days, wanted to know why I am not answering clearly whether there was such a thing as a good day. The answer is:-  Depends on which date, how long, when the step rates change following your effective date and the maturity date. Is it relevant? Yes and No, depending on how efficient holding funds are handled.  Most times the required principal will take some time to be collected into some temporary holding place like Maybank GIA-i or in very short term instruments, so the loss is minimised. This is what is considered sweep and scrape. Not withdraw the money and keep in a bag to carry to the bank on an extra good day.

The story is useful only for kiasu people and high net worth individuals. However, if funds just happen to be available then, it is up to the individual to calculate whether it makes sense to wait. For most depositors, their promo amounts will be at least 10k or about 500 time less than in the story and so the amount is small and not worth bothering about. The question of losing money while waiting is simply becuz the money is not properly kept in a higher yielding place or there are no fresh income flow.

Think of the future and how many promos you will miss out if you do not adjust your maturity dates to earlier in the month. Don't think short term, don't think about reacting to now. Be pro active and put your house in order.
Start with making sure your new placements are scheduled earlier in the month. Do not wait, any date before last week of the month is okay and good.
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Thanks for sharing.
These are my opinions.
1) When FD interest rate is trending downward, it's best to lock in immediately whenever fund is available. The promo rate is likely to end anytime without notice regardless of "good days" or "bad days" when quota reached. Nowadays, one rarely see better then previous month FD rate upon entering a new calendar month, so holding on to the next beginning of the month is unnecessary.
2) For HNWIs, they would have spread out funds in every banks. To micro manage the funds back and forth FD > MBB GIA > FD in order to minimize interest loss while holding the fund till the next calendar month is technically not feasible. HNWI's amount exceeds online IBG limit anytime, OTC between banks is a waste of HNWI's executive time, more so must OTC only in the morning peak hours otherwise be prepared to lose 1 day interest, hence becomes penny wise, pound foolish.
3) If FD rate is trending upward, you do have a point though.

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post Jul 1 2016, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ftan @ Jul 1 2016, 08:55 AM)
I went to Affin bank yesterday for the 4.5% fd deal. According to the bank officer, still have limited quota but may not last till Aug 31st.
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well it's expected..

like I said previously, don't be surprise if by next week or so quota finish / target meet devil.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 1 2016, 11:27 AM)
well it's expected..

like I said previously, don't be surprise if by next week or so quota finish / target meet  devil.gif
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Wait for me on Monday ! Have some amt to move there ! bruce.gif bruce.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jul 1 2016, 11:38 AM)
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Wait for me on Monday ! Have some amt to move there !  bruce.gif  bruce.gif  tongue.gif
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Since you put so much in affin bank, affin bank got priority customer service like BR, SCB, maybank? hmm.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 12:38 PM

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Maybank has been around for some time and had introduced new types of accounts over the years. Sometimes there is some aspect in a new account that is supposed to be better (well at least according to the staff), so ended up with more accounts.
These accounts can be linked together with the advantage of free instant transfer of any amount within the own accounts. Luckily, I had not bothered to terminate the not so attractive accounts while I tested out the claims of the superiority of the new account.
Hence, bigger sums beyond the transfer limit can be transfered cheaply, instantly and conveniently to other banks by first transferring to the Maybank accounts and then IBFT out to the target bank where you need a SA or CA. All these can be done at your internet connection. For promos, inconveniently, still need to go to the bank to place the FD. This is good enuf as long as our total transfer daily limit of all the accounts is adequate for the placement. Otherwise have to do it another day to add on.
The other way is to write a personal cheque in your name after transferring to the current account for the big sum. This cost a bit more, but there is flexibility in case you need to change bank. This will do for most banks as FD cert issued valid subject to cheque clearing, except some odd cases - effective date still on day of placement, but come back for cert after cheque clearing, or worst case - effective on clearing and collect then.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 1 2016, 12:24 PM)
Since you put so much in affin bank, affin bank got priority customer service like BR, SCB, maybank? hmm.gif
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Not necessary a huge unlimited supply of funds coming out. It is 10k per FD cert. tongue.gif
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Deal Hunter can you write your own financial blog, instead of flooding this topic with your vague writeups?

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post Jul 1 2016, 01:42 PM

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Today uplifted all my MBB GIA FDs prematuredly, IBFT to BR for its promo FD 4.38% pa x 12month, monthly interest.

and got a pen, not bad.
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 1 2016, 01:42 PM)
Today uplifted all  my MBB GIA FDs prematuredly, IBFT to BR for its promo FD 4.38% pa x 12month, monthly interest.

and got a pen, not bad.
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Hi bro, what is BR? many thks
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post Jul 1 2016, 01:58 PM

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Hi bro, what is BR? many thks
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BR stands for Bank Rakyat. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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post Jul 1 2016, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 1 2016, 01:42 PM)
Today uplifted all  my MBB GIA FDs prematuredly, IBFT to BR for its promo FD 4.38% pa x 12month, monthly interest.

and got a pen, not bad.
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So BR promo is monthly interest ? Have to open a casa, very troublesome lah....
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post Jul 1 2016, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Jul 1 2016, 02:08 PM)
So BR promo is monthly interest ? Have to open a casa, very troublesome lah....
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Not many people know about Bank Rakyat (BR), Affin Bank, Kuwait Finance House(KFH not KFC mega_shok.gif ), Bangkok Bank or MBSB as places for FD. More like Huh? What?
Is it safe? Not so established? Inconvenient few branches? Where, not here? Any funny inconvenient procedures?
As a result, their FD promos were not exactly hot cakes because of the above even when they have promos head and shoulders above the rest. biggrin.gif

Opening savings account in Bank Rakyat with ATM card/internet access could be done first or together when placing new FD account with say 5k minimum in cash for monthly interest payment. Not sure if all branches follow the rule of issuing FD cert after banker's cheque or personal cheque is cleared. Usually use IBFT transfers after having SA - no problem.

For info, Affin Bank usually offers the best board FD rates and is the benchmark for comparison for board and promo rates.
Best monthly interest paying is almost always Bank Rakyat but it dips sometimes when the other banks try to get funds. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 1 2016, 01:42 PM)
Today uplifted all  my MBB GIA FDs prematuredly, IBFT to BR for its promo FD 4.38% pa x 12month, monthly interest.

and got a pen, not bad.
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Is the placement amount substantial to get the pen?
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just did the following in cimb:
3 months 4%
6 months 4.1%
12 months 4.2%

the beauty was you can withdraw in multiple of RM1k or RM10k (i forget) and leave the balance of the FD intact to receive the FD interest.

something similar to their unfixed deposit program.

for those who are not sure whether they would be utilising their FD or not, i thought it was a pretty okay deal.

hlb offered 4.25% for 12 months

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