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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.12, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Mar 2 2016, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(pearl_white @ Mar 2 2016, 10:57 AM)
Let me give you an answer (with the intention to solve your curiousity that will eventually kill you, if I did not intervene).

Why would some people rather earn less interest when you can earn higher elsewhere ?  The answer can be found in genxgenygenz postings.  To be precise, the words "chiak beh liao" would explain it all.

At 3.45% p.a., some people's FD would be earning more interest (in absolute terms) in a month than what you would earn in 1 year @ 4% .

For example, 

MR. LIM puts in a RM10million FD at 3.9% p.a.  He earns rm390k per annum, and the bank credits his SA rm32,500.00 every month.
MR. RANJIT SINGH put in a RM100k FD at 4.0% p.a.  He earns rm4k per annum, and the bank credits his SA with rm333.33 everymonth.

For MR. LIM, he may be in a situation of "chiak beh liao" whereas MR. RANJIT SINGH is merely surviving day to day.  Hence, psychologically, MR. RANJIT would be very sensitive to interest rate difference where as MR. LIM would not.  Hence, also why, MR. RANJIT SINGH cannot pathom why MR. LIM do not go for the highest interest rates.

The law of absolutes and reaching the level of "chiak beh liao".
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Bro (or is it Sis, I apologize if I address you wrongly), if one got USD1M deosited into FD, he can be eligible for Private Banking, no need Fresh Fund also the bank will give promo rates, and therefore in the above case, Mr. Lim will perpetually get more from interest paid, haha. Actually if you are a Maybank Premier Wealth, your RM also can give you their Promo rates when renewing matured FD.



QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Mar 2 2016, 09:40 AM)
Hi guys, wanna ask something. Currently my fd almost mature and i plan to put in affinbank 4.5% but heard someone say now only 4.2%. My current fd i put it at bsn. bsn promo is 4.5% too i know but then it requires fresh fund. So if i take out the fd when it is mature and instant transfer to another bank, say my cimb acc then i instant transfer back to bsn, so would it be consider as fresh fund ?
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Instant transfer to another bank then go to the other bank get a bank cheque if possible (most probably the next day and then return to BSN).

As for Affin, the have 3, 6, 12 and 13 months but got Stupid CASA condition where need to deposit RM5K. Yes, the current promo for 12 months is 4.2% and for 13 months at 4.3% but once we consider the RM5K, the effective rates will be less.

To ALL: Maybank

3.9% for 2 months.

4.28% for 6 months.

4.38% for 12 months.

And for big depositors, I have a tip for you as to which bank may give you 4.5% for 12 months besides BSN - visit my Fixed Deposit Page to find out and be rewarded tongue.gif

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may i know is eFD really good?
i see the rate not as attractive as promotion FD.

the only benefit of eFD is only flexible and convenience is it?
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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 2 2016, 09:08 AM)
the ocbc 15 months 4.3% also comes with a free trolley bag if amount exceed RM70k.
please ask for it.
it's their promo presently.
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I can't see the promotion on the website wor..
can elaborate more?
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 2 2016, 11:00 AM)
Instant transfer to another bank then go to the other bank get a bank cheque if possible (most probably the next day and then return to BSN).

actually.. i did before like today take out fd from bank X and instant transfer to bank Y and put fd straight away in the same day in bank Y. I feel like it can be done in the same day and with online banking it is even more flexible. Meaning instant transfer at bank X and wait for awhile so that the amount appear at bank Y, then use online banking transfer money back to bank X and make fd in bank X. However, I heard someone mention in previous post where the staff ask him/her to add in another say 1k fresh fund and make the already there about to mature fd look like fresh fund and add with the 1k to qualify for the fd promo.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Mar 2 2016, 11:13 AM)
I can't see the promotion on the website wor..
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https://www.ocbc.com.my/personal-banking/ac...promotions.html
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Mar 2 2016, 11:15 AM)
actually.. i did before like today take out fd from bank X and instant transfer to bank Y and put fd straight away in the same day in bank Y. I feel like it can be done in the same day and with online banking it is even more flexible. Meaning instant transfer at bank X and wait for awhile so that the amount appear at bank Y, then use online banking transfer money back to bank X and make fd in bank X. However, I heard someone mention in previous post where the staff ask him/her to add in another say 1k fresh fund and make the already there about to mature fd look like fresh fund and add with the 1k to qualify for the fd promo..  hmm.gif
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again, there are no hard rules to the definition of "fresh fund".

always always check with the respective bank. further complicate matter, each branch is different as well.
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QUOTE(pearl_white @ Mar 2 2016, 10:57 AM)
MR. LIM puts in a RM10million FD at 3.9% p.a.  He earns rm390k per annum, and the bank credits his SA rm32,500.00 every month.
MR. RANJIT SINGH put in a RM100k FD at 4.0% p.a.  He earns rm4k per annum, and the bank credits his SA with rm333.33 everymonth.
For him, why would Mr. Lim put in @ 3.9% when he can get RM400k if he can place @ 4%. Is RM10,000 / 12 months = RM833 extra per month not worth it? Well, I can answer him on your behalf. It is because for Mr. Lim who has RM10 mil, RM833 p/m is not critical to his survival nor will it make him much richer.

Unfortunately, this is something that he will never comprehend. Because he isn't where Mr. Lim is yet.

It's the same why some won't understand why I would buy a car for cash instead of taking loan. They think the cash can be used to get >4% FD and pay off hire purchase interest at 2.x-3.x% and pocket the difference. They do not understand the feeling of being debt free from housing or car or any loan. It's like having wings every month without any commitments tying me down. The freedom and reduced stress for me is absolute, as you so put it. But all he would see is, the little gains he could get by trying to make the most of the money available.

This post has been edited by McFD2R: Mar 2 2016, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 2 2016, 11:51 AM)
thanks, no info on the luggage though..
stick to RHB then..
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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Mar 2 2016, 12:30 PM)
thanks, no info on the luggage though..
stick to RHB then..
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are you sure?

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 2 2016, 12:36 PM)
are you sure?

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what I meant was lack of info for the brand and size of the free luggage bag..
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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Mar 2 2016, 12:44 PM)
what I meant was lack of info for the brand and size of the free luggage bag..
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got this one from ocbc last time

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QUOTE(pearl_white @ Mar 2 2016, 10:57 AM)
Let me give you an answer (with the intention to solve your curiousity that will eventually kill you, if I did not intervene).

Why would some people rather earn less interest when you can earn higher elsewhere ?  The answer can be found in genxgenygenz postings.  To be precise, the words "chiak beh liao" would explain it all.

At 3.45% p.a., some people's FD would be earning more interest (in absolute terms) in a month than what you would earn in 1 year @ 4% .

For example, 

MR. LIM puts in a RM10million FD at 3.9% p.a.  He earns rm390k per annum, and the bank credits his SA rm32,500.00 every month.
MR. RANJIT SINGH put in a RM100k FD at 4.0% p.a.  He earns rm4k per annum, and the bank credits his SA with rm333.33 everymonth.

For MR. LIM, he may be in a situation of "chiak beh liao" whereas MR. RANJIT SINGH is merely surviving day to day.  Hence, psychologically, MR. RANJIT would be very sensitive to interest rate difference where as MR. LIM would not.  Hence, also why, MR. RANJIT SINGH cannot pathom why MR. LIM do not go for the highest interest rates.

The law of absolutes and reaching the level of "chiak beh liao".
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Guess I am in Mr Ranjit position. Btw, when I reach Mr lim position, I will still be Mr Ranjit. No point giving up free money.


QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Mar 2 2016, 11:06 AM)
may i know is eFD really good?
i see the rate not as attractive as promotion FD.

the only benefit of eFD is only flexible and convenience is it?
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True is not as good as over the counter rates but I am going to list out why eFD is good
1) Get free interest of min 3.15% p.a for your emergency cash. Better than putting in normal SA right?
2) People don't have time to visit the bank
3) Earn free pocket money by parking your cc bill payment (prepare the money in advance) in 1 month eFD.
4) Instant liquidity compare to money market fund.
5) Can be done anytime of the day (similar to no2))
6) The best: can be done anywhere on earth with Internet (useful for people who fly frequently, overseas people)

If you have the time, please choose over the counter.
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Mar 2 2016, 12:11 PM)
For him, why would Mr. Lim put in @ 3.9% when he can get RM400k if he can place @ 4%. Is RM10,000 / 12 months = RM833 extra per month not worth it? Well, I can answer him on your behalf. It is because for Mr. Lim who has RM10 mil, RM833 p/m is not critical to his survival nor will it make him much richer.

Unfortunately, this is something that he will never comprehend. Because he isn't where Mr. Lim is yet.

It's the same why some won't understand why I would buy a car for cash instead of taking loan. They think the cash can be used to get >4% FD and pay off hire purchase interest at 2.x-3.x% and pocket the difference. They do not understand the feeling of being debt free from housing or car or any loan. It's like having wings every month without any commitments tying me down. The freedom and reduced stress for me is absolute, as you so put it. But all he would see is, the little gains he could get by trying to make the most of the money available.
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Another factor is trust.
We tend to trust a bank more than another due to convenience, and service quality we experienced as well as how well it is being run.

Also, Mr Lim may not want to deposit in Bank A, even the bank gives him 4.5% if bank A had history run into losses during economy difficult time.

Rate alone is not absolute factor.
There are other consideration and individual preference as well.

Btw, 2.x% car loan, its EIR is more than 4%.
You never can win against Bank by loaning vs FD. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Mar 2 2016, 12:11 PM)
It's the same why some won't understand why I would buy a car for cash instead of taking loan. They think the cash can be used to get >4% FD and pay off hire purchase interest at 2.x-3.x% and pocket the difference. They do not understand the feeling of being debt free from housing or car or any loan. It's like having wings every month without any commitments tying me down. The freedom and reduced stress for me is absolute, as you so put it. But all he would see is, the little gains he could get by trying to make the most of the money available.
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hahaha, pocket the difference when get >4% FD and pay off HP interest at 2.x-3.x%, mana ada? The moment we accept a HP loan offer, we automatically become poorer as the interest is charged upfront and we now have more liabilities. You really nice putting it mildly saying they think when actual fact they not using their brain cells to go determine the effective interest rate they are imposed. If got 0% HP loan and no other fees than maybe got extra income. Then again, for car, if a dealer offering 0% interest HP, if pay cash 101% can get discount.

Same goes for people who have money in FD but go get personal loan of equivalent amount or have Credit card outstanding debt, they are just making tha banks richer and themselves poorer.




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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Mar 2 2016, 12:11 PM)

It's the same why some won't understand why I would buy a car for cash instead of taking loan. They think the cash can be used to get >4% FD and pay off hire purchase interest at 2.x-3.x% and pocket the difference. They do not understand the feeling of being debt free from housing or car or any loan. It's like having wings every month without any commitments tying me down. The freedom and reduced stress for me is absolute, as you so put it. But all he would see is, the little gains he could get by trying to make the most of the money available.
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Err .. you cannot compare FD rate with car loan rate.. the effective interest rate for car loan is much higher than FD rate.

A 3% car loan rate is effectively 5.64% interest p.a. wink.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 2 2016, 02:09 PM)
Another factor is trust.
We tend to trust a bank more than another due to convenience, and service quality we experienced as well as how well it is being run.

Also, Mr Lim may not want to deposit in Bank A, even the bank gives him 4.5% if bank A had history run into losses during economy difficult time.

Rate alone is not absolute factor.
There are other consideration and individual preference as well.

Btw, 2.x% car loan, its EIR is more than 4%.
You never can win against Bank by loaning vs FD.  tongue.gif
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I will put my money in different banks even if getting lower FD rates bcoz the pidm coverage is only 250k per person per bank. brows.gif



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QUOTE(cwhong @ Feb 22 2016, 02:10 PM)
only for islamic only same rate too.
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i thought 6 months Term Deposit-i 4.5% p.a. promo has expired on 29 Feb? Can't seem to find this on their website anymore?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 2 2016, 08:36 AM)
can put FD into KWSP?
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 2 2016, 03:10 PM)
I will put my money in different banks even if getting lower FD rates bcoz the pidm coverage is only 250k per person per bank. brows.gif
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BSN - Is this fixed deposit account insured by PIDM?
No. Instead, your deposit is 100% guaranteed by the government under the Bank Simpanan Nasional Act.

source https://ringgitplus.com/en/fixed-deposit/BS...#ReadMoreReview
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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Feb 23 2016, 12:34 PM)
Would like to ask anyone here with experience with HSBC Advance current account. Did you need to close your Advance account to avoid paying the RM10 per month account fee after withdrawing the 5% promo FD?

I transferred all my money out from the account after the maturity of the 3 months 5% promo FD meaning the account balance is RM0 now. So, would the account be automatically closed after a while or do I still need to go to the branch to close it manually? Would I still be charged the monthly fee if I leave it as it is currently. Thank you.
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is this 5% promo comes with investment requirement, i.e. FD-i type? Still available?

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