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post Jun 19 2016, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(pigin @ Jun 18 2016, 11:43 PM)
2 runs.

run with the 6ish figures... 100 city

run with the 12ish figures... 80 highway 20 city

run with the 14ish figures... 90 highway 10 city

mayb too used to dual clutches.. that cvt's power delivery feels so numb... the power is there.. but the kick really tak ada.
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6ish??? Serious?
You're using the 1.5 Turbo yes?
Interested in hearing the heat issue you mentioned
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post Jun 19 2016, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jun 19 2016, 02:41 AM)
6ish??? Serious?
You're using the 1.5 Turbo yes?
Interested in hearing the heat issue you mentioned
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It's common for new cars running in period to have the engine hood burning hot to the touch after driving. Give it a couple of thousand Kms and it should be back to normal.
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post Jun 19 2016, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(pigin @ Jun 18 2016, 11:43 PM)
mayb too used to dual clutches.. that cvt's power delivery feels so numb... the power is there.. but the kick really tak ada.
Yes that was my one of my earlier comments where I said owners who think they are getting a powerful car just cuz of the word 'turbo' will be disappointed cuz the CVT gearbox actually takes a lot of the fun out of having a turbo car...soft turbo or otherwise. I still don't think it was a wise choice by Honda to pair a CVT with their turbo.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 19 2016, 08:22 AM)
Yes that was my one of my earlier comments where I said owners who think they are getting a powerful car just cuz of the word 'turbo' will be disappointed cuz the CVT gearbox actually takes a lot of the fun out of having a turbo car...soft turbo or otherwise. I still don't think it was a wise choice by Honda to pair a CVT with their turbo.
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post Jun 19 2016, 08:32 AM

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pigin can you please help check if the glove compartment has any lights when opened during night time? US version of the car does not have any lights though... My FD2 has it.
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post Jun 19 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 19 2016, 08:22 AM)
Yes that was my one of my earlier comments where I said owners who think they are getting a powerful car just cuz of the word 'turbo' will be disappointed cuz the CVT gearbox actually takes a lot of the fun out of having a turbo car...soft turbo or otherwise. I still don't think it was a wise choice by Honda to pair a CVT with their turbo.
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The 8.3 sec means the car is quick. Feel wise, DSG gives you the 'rush' but end of the day jetta's 0-100 is also 8.3 sec.

Though i havent drive the civic yet, what i suspect is jetta's 0-50kph time might be marginally faster but loses to civic in 50 - 100kph time.

My dsg was fun until the juddering and guilt sets in shakehead.gif
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post Jun 19 2016, 08:41 AM

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post Jun 19 2016, 09:12 AM

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BTW, can anyone confirm that the overheat issue in Thailand is genuine? When I look at the pic, the car is 1.8, not turbo version
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post Jun 19 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 19 2016, 09:12 AM)
BTW,  can anyone confirm that the overheat issue in Thailand is genuine? When I look at the pic, the car is 1.8, not turbo version
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Dont think its widespread issue. Else it's all over the internet already. president pigin mentioned his engine bay feels hot from normal driving which quite normal during break in period.

Likely in the thai isolated cases, they whack the car during the break in period.

president pigin, did SA ask u to bring the car to sc after 1000km?
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QUOTE(Alternation @ Jun 19 2016, 09:27 AM)
Dont think its widespread issue. Else it's all over the internet already. president pigin mentioned his engine bay feels hot from normal driving which quite normal during break in period.

Likely in the thai isolated cases, they whack the car during the break in period.

president pigin, did SA ask u to bring the car to sc after 1000km?
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I might need to drive back from penang to johor during break in period.. Is this consider whack? Any suggestion how to drive?

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 19 2016, 09:46 AM)
I might need to drive back from penang to johor during break in period.. Is this consider whack? Any suggestion how to drive?
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Jun 19 2016, 10:47 AM)
Cruise control
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 19 2016, 09:46 AM)
I might need to drive back from penang to johor during break in period.. Is this consider whack? Any suggestion how to drive?
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post Jun 19 2016, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Alternation @ Jun 19 2016, 09:27 AM)
Dont think its widespread issue. Else it's all over the internet already. president pigin mentioned his engine bay feels hot from normal driving which quite normal during break in period.

Likely in the thai isolated cases, they whack the car during the break in period.

president pigin, did SA ask u to bring the car to sc after 1000km?
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sorry i do not know how to respond to multiple quotes.

just gonna answer them rite here.

for the heat:

its NOT like its overheating. just that the engine compartment feels hotter than most cars i've driven.

compared it with n/a's, a supercharged old car (dun ask me what car hehe). my in law's vw's (two of them).

and even the newer bmws with turbo..

alternation might be right. hope its a break in thing.

for the FC:

yes mine is a 1.5T.. have to clarify tho i did a couple half trottle accerelations to 130-140ish.. on all runs with eco mode off. i will "try" to drive normally and give another result..

for the service:
yes.. was told by SA to bring back at 1000km.. but found a screen on the instrument panel that says "Oil life" and it says 9900KM left.. read the manual and it says that it will calculate when u need servicing.. anyways my SA blur blur one i might post and ask on honda malaysia for assisstance on this one.

can anyone tell me how much is the first service goin to cost? website says first service is free but nothing seems to be replaced? can anyone clarify go first service for what??

for the light in compartment. i will check.

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post Jun 19 2016, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(pigin @ Jun 19 2016, 10:57 AM)
sorry i do not know how to respond to multiple quotes.

just gonna answer them rite here.

for the heat:

its NOT like its overheating. just that the engine compartment feels hotter than most cars i've driven.

compared it with n/a's, a supercharged old car (dun ask me what car hehe). my in law's vw's (two of them).

and even the newer bmws with turbo..

alternation might be right. hope its a break in thing.

for the FC:

yes mine is a 1.5T.. have to clarify tho i did a couple half trottle accerelations to 130-140ish.. on all runs with eco mode off. i will "try" to drive normally and give another result..

for the service:
yes.. was told by SA to bring back at 1000km.. but found a screen on the instrument panel that says "Oil life" and it says 9900KM left.. read the manual and it says that it will calculate when u need servicing.. anyways my SA blur blur one i might post and ask on honda malaysia for assisstance on this one.

can anyone tell me how much is the first service goin to cost? website says first service is free but nothing seems to be replaced? can anyone clarify go first service for what??

for the light in compartment. i will check.
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1st service is normally to drain out engine oil which might contain metallic parts worn off from the engine. Probably they will only charge u on the new engine oil and FOC labour charge.

U mean civics bonnet is hotter than vw's twin charge?

I'm going to have dilemma since my 1st few drives will be a long drive and will hit 1000km during the journey.

Hope I can service it in other state's SC with free labour charge.
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post Jun 19 2016, 11:40 AM

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Guys, we can't be discussing trivial issues like overheating by comparing the heat that is discharged by the engine compartment. That's like school boy talk. And leaving the engine compartment open to supposedly 'cool down' is just silly in my opinion and so old school. Let's be more analytical and logical in our discussions shall we?

Every car manufacturer designs their engines and the heat discharge systems differently. BMW for instance discharges the heat from their engines under the car. So if u're standing next to the engine after a long drive in a BMW u'll feel the heat at your feet more than when u open the car bonnet. That doesn't mean that BMW engines are not 'hot'. Its just the way the heat discharge system is designed.

And we're talking about an established car manufacturer here. This isn't Proton or some other rubbish manufacturer. This is Honda. The Japs are well known for their attention to detail. Their cars are not the best spec'd or best in safety compared to the Europeans but they have excelled in 1 aspect and that is QUALITY & DURABILITY.

So let's stop with this discussion about overheating just cuz we saw pics on FB about ONE case in Thailand. No car is perfect and im sure each of our cars will have issues. That's why we have the warranty for. So if an issue does happen, we'll deal with it at that point in time. No reason to be deliberating some 'potential' issue e.g overheating. Im more interested in the driving dynamics of the car, suspension, throttle response, CVT performance, problems, etc. That's what I expect from the owners who have already collected their cars.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 19 2016, 11:40 AM)
Guys, we can't be discussing trivial issues like overheating by comparing the heat that is discharged by the engine compartment. That's like school boy talk. And leaving the engine compartment open to supposedly 'cool down' is just silly in my opinion and so old school. Let's be more analytical and logical in our discussions shall we?

Every car manufacturer designs their engines and the heat discharge systems differently. BMW for instance discharges the heat from their engines under the car. So if u're standing next to the engine after a long drive in a BMW u'll feel the heat at your feet more than when u open the car bonnet. That doesn't mean that BMW engines are not 'hot'. Its just the way the heat discharge system is designed.

And we're talking about an established car manufacturer here. This isn't Proton or some other rubbish manufacturer. This is Honda. The Japs are well known for their attention to detail. Their cars are not the best spec'd or best in safety compared to the Europeans but they have excelled in 1 aspect and that is QUALITY & DURABILITY.

So let's stop with this discussion about overheating just cuz we saw pics on FB about ONE case in Thailand. No car is perfect and im sure each of our cars will have issues. That's why we have the warranty for. So if an issue does happen, we'll deal with it at that point in time. No reason to be deliberating some 'potential' issue e.g overheating. Im more interested in the driving dynamics of the car, suspension, throttle response, CVT performance, problems, etc. That's what I expect from the owners who have already collected their cars.
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I see no harm in discussing engine heat, driving dynamics and so forth.

The point of this thread is to share ideas, opinions and concerns ... whether it is school boy issue or not it doesnt matter.

You can always choose to ignore the discussion instead of imposing rules of what can and cant be discussed.
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post Jun 19 2016, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Alternation @ Jun 19 2016, 11:57 AM)
I see no harm in discussing engine heat, driving dynamics and so forth.

The point of this thread is to share ideas, opinions and concerns ... whether it is school boy issue or not it doesnt matter.

You can always choose to ignore the discussion instead of imposing rules of what can and cant be discussed.
The engine overheating issue is not an issue. It's been discussed many times and there is no conclusion because it was a SINGLE case. So pointless asking and discussing the same thing unless and until it happens.

There are more important things to be discussed and this thread should be discussing those points. Most of the discussions here have been good but let's weed out the nonsensical ones. If its not nipped early, we risk turning this thread into some fanboy thread discussing trivial issues.

No issue so far. Some very good discussions here already. But let's just cease with the overheating issue.

Again this is my opinion / suggestion and nobody is imposing any rules. You can either choose to follow or continue your discussion on the heat. Read up & understand before passing judgement on me.


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 19 2016, 11:40 AM)
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And we're talking about an established car manufacturer here. This isn't Proton or some other rubbish manufacturer. This is Honda. The Japs are well known for their attention to detail. Their cars are not the best spec'd or best in safety compared to the Europeans but they have excelled in 1 aspect and that is QUALITY & DURABILITY.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 19 2016, 12:02 PM)
The engine overheating issue is not an issue. It's been discussed many times and there is no conclusion because it was a SINGLE case. So pointless asking and discussing the same thing unless and until it happens.

There are more important things to be discussed and this thread should be discussing those points. Most of the discussions here have been good but let's weed out the nonsensical ones. If its not nipped early, we risk turning this thread into some fanboy thread discussing trivial issues.

No issue so far. Some very good discussions here already. But let's just cease with the overheating issue.

Again this is my opinion / suggestion and nobody is imposing any rules. You can either choose to follow or continue your discussion on the heat. Read up & understand before passing judgement on me.
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Being the 1st owner here sharing his concern, it ain't trivia. Unless down the years some new owner bringing up the same issue which proves the be irrelevant, that u can consider it as trivial.

On the heat topic, knowing japs being japs they prioritize reliability hence the 1.5t's manifold and engine block is water cooled. Quite puzzling to hear that it's quite hot even if it's still break in period.

I've break in plenty of cars in the forms of perodua, proton, vw and so forth but none really differs that much comparing it like-to-like with a broken in engine.

Maybe pigin was having cold sweat when he touched the bonnet ...

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