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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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voncrane
post Mar 16 2016, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 16 2016, 10:04 AM)
actually, that also depends on when yr TV kaput! biggrin.gif
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Hey.. Don't give the TV any ideas.. shakehead.gif .. Knocks on wood. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 16 2016, 11:22 AM)
Yup, what has been seen cannot be unseen.
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Yup.. I have to force myself to look away, if I have to walk past the display units.. smile.gif

QUOTE(lateboomer @ Mar 16 2016, 02:05 PM)
But I think 4k tv not entirely float my boat. I went to Pavillon Harvey last Fri to catch a glimpse of 4k tv. I saw Samsung SUHD, but the demo vid showed the veges looked so greenish like florescent lit veges, and also the green apples. The red color is the worst, the parrot after enhancement just looked like florescent bird.

It is digital color I would say, very high contrast and bright, but very artificial and not natural. The only good demo is night sky and night scene with good contrast, or documentary type of videos like travelling and building sites, but not for movies to show true human complexion.

I stayed there for some time even to look at new 8k sharp tv, which was slightly better. I think the hardest part for super 4k is to get the human skin tone color right. I saw patches of skin tone here and there. I also felt long term viewing induce eye fatigue. This is just my opinion, I am minority I guess.
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What jdgobio says.. That's store mode on the TV in action.. Apparently, the majority like it all bright & sparkly.. Plus, it's in the store and with all the artificial lighting, they need to be able to draw in potential customers.. Once the TV's home, then one can tweak the settings to suit the eyes & viewing environment.

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post Mar 16 2016, 03:09 PM

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I guess you are saying the other way, plasma Tv has better motion handling than SUHD tv since it is still LCD tv. Am I right? Then what tv can give very good motion handling? I am using plasma tv actually.
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post Mar 16 2016, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(lateboomer @ Mar 16 2016, 03:09 PM)
I guess you are saying the other way, plasma Tv has better motion handling than SUHD tv since it is still LCD tv. Am I right? Then what tv can give very good motion handling? I am using plasma tv actually.
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post Mar 16 2016, 03:22 PM

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Yeah, I guess so. But still good to listen from the horse mouth, expert I mean. wink.gif
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post Mar 16 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(lateboomer @ Mar 16 2016, 02:52 PM)
You raise a good valid point. But I don't think Harvey sale person is friendly enough to let me change the settings. So the only gauge is to go to expert house to have a look. For motion handling, as far as I know, this is plasma tv strong point. Are you saying SUHD tv handles motion very smooth for all videos and totally no motion blur?
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HN sales people are much better than those in other retail outlets and significantly more knowledgeable than those salesmen elsewhere. But you still need to take what they say with a pinch of salt. They are "more" knowledgeable but if you do your research you can easily surpass that. Anyway, I have never had problems with requesting them to test the tv in other modes or play your own content.

You need to re-read what I said about motion handling - flaws means imperfections.
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post Mar 16 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(lateboomer @ Mar 16 2016, 03:09 PM)
I guess you are saying the other way, plasma Tv has better motion handling than SUHD tv since it is still LCD tv. Am I right? Then what tv can give very good motion handling? I am using plasma tv actually.
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Yup, you got it.

Again, this is something you have to judge yourself. Some people never notice the motion blur even in very bad tvs or it doesn't bother them. Anyway, the mid to high end LCDs are quite good in terms of motion handling but ex-plasma users are a picky bunch smile.gif
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post Mar 16 2016, 04:13 PM

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Like voncrane mentioned, if you can afford it, go for Oled. Maybe the price for 65" have already come down to 15k now.
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post Mar 16 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 16 2016, 02:54 PM)
Hey.. Don't give the TV any ideas..  shakehead.gif .. Knocks on wood. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
Yup.. I have to force myself to look away, if I have to walk past the display units..  smile.gif
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well... just find some fault with the current tv! laugh.gif

ya, once yr eyes are hooked, no way going back. i now hardly watch at my other 6yr old lcd 1080p tv! find it too dull. biggrin.gif



having been thru it all, i would recommend anyone anytime to go for 4kTV if:

.. interested in netflix uhd/4k.
.. has a device/player that is 4k compliant 2160p 24/30hz.
.. playing mostly 1080p and bluray/bdmv videos.

for sharp ue630x owners:

i have been toying with various videos and various device playback settings. i came to the conclusion that this sharp ue630x tv delivers its best when device is set at 2160p 24hz - it is noticeable that the upscaling is best and the motion smoothest. so, if buying a device or box, get a 4k one to go with the TV!


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post Mar 16 2016, 09:33 PM

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This is a good article to explain why if you want a good quality tv after 2015, it's likely to be a 4k -
http://www.cnet.com/news/4k-tvs-arent-stupid-anymore/
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post Mar 18 2016, 07:37 PM

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this movie, point break 2015 (a remake of point break 1991) is a good one to play on yr ue630x.

this movie has several awesome scenes of extreme sports:

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Shooting took place in a total of 11 countries across four continents, using actual extreme sports stars and stuntmen.[17] Locations includes Austria, Italy, Switzerland, Berlin, France, Mexico, Venezuela, French Polynesia, India and the United States.[18][19] While the original film focused on just a few sports — primarily surfing — and used cranes and other Hollywood trickery to portray them, the new movie eschewed all of that, including green screens, and relied on real life practical stunts.[4] For the numerous stunts performed in the film, Core gather a group of the best snowboarders, free rock climbers, big wave surfers, high-speed motocross riders and wingsuit pilots in the world and filmed them, essentially, as actors.[7]


i had first watched a 12gb 1080p version on a fullhd tv.

then i rewatched the extreme sports scenes with a 35gb bdmv version on the ue630x. 2160p 24hz or 1080p 60hz both come out excellent.

always play the best stuff for the best equipment, a world of difference, enjoy! thumbup.gif


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post Mar 18 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 18 2016, 07:37 PM)
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this movie, point break 2015 (a remake of point break 1991) is a good one to play on yr ue630x.

this movie has several awesome scenes of extreme sports:
i had first watched a 12gb 1080p version on a fullhd tv.

then i rewatched the extreme sports scenes with a 35gb bdmv version on the ue630x. 2160p 24hz or 1080p 60hz both come out excellent.

always play the best stuff for the best equipment, a world of difference, enjoy! thumbup.gif
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Where do u get the 35gb bdmv file?
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post Mar 29 2016, 04:56 PM

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Hi guys, do you know what is the difference between our UE630X and UE1M other than the 3D feature?

I found out that the price for UE1M is cheaper than our 630X.

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Mar 29 2016, 04:56 PM)
Hi guys, do you know what is the difference between our UE630X and UE1M other than the 3D feature?

I found out that the price for UE1M is cheaper than our 630X.
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ue1m, not sold in malaysia, i think.

both ue1m and ue630x sold in singapore according to sharp-roxy sg:

https://sharp.com.sg/web/products/prodDetai...d=600&mode=Spec

looking at the specs of both models, the differences i can spot are:

ue1m vs ue630x

.. 3D vs no 3D
.. camera vs no camera
.. 3 hdmi vs 4 hdmi
.. 4 usb vs 3 usb
.. "app store" vs "google play store"
.. coaxial audio putput vs toslink audio output (and hdmi1 arc?)

and this probably explains why both ue1m and ue630x aren't that good with reading usb drives:

External HDD ready Only apply for some models: Samsung HX-M500TCB/G, HGST (TOURO), Imation IM300-1000

very close, very similar. choice will depend on whether u want 3D or not. price difference?

not sure if this is significant...

in the sharp malaysia website, ua330x which is also 4k has "4k master engine" ue630x has "4k master engine pro". this is not mentioned in the sharp sg site.

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This is the top-of-the-line 65″ UE630X series with 4K/UHD resolution and their proprietary 4K Master Engine Pro chipset. The colors are immensely rich with deep reds and vivid greens – there’s a 14% improvement over their previous flagship 4K offering and you can visibly see the difference!
http://sixthseal.com/2015/09/the-new-sharp...oid-digital-tv/
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post Mar 29 2016, 05:46 PM

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Thanks for the summary AVFAN. I bought my UE630X for 3.5k, i saw 11street selling UE1M for 3.2k.

Yea, comes with 3D glasses as well. I think both also running Android TV i guess.

For me, the HDMI 2.0 plays an important role for tv upgrade =D, other than that i guess should be secondary.
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What panel and is it full array for the 630x? And does it have local dimming? Cant seem to find these info in sharp website. What is the flagship model for sharp 4k tv? Or 630x is the highest spec already?
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QUOTE(qkumba @ Mar 29 2016, 08:45 PM)
What panel and is it full array for the 630x? And does it have local dimming? Cant seem to find these info in sharp website. What is the flagship model for sharp 4k tv? Or 630x is the highest spec already?
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630x is the best for 4K... but there is 8k now:

http://www.sharp-world.com/aquos/en/4k4ctech/


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haha, we can never follow the latest technology unless we're very rich =D

I just went to this webiste below to download 4k samples to play on my tv. The file format is .encm. The tv and my pc also cannot play the file. Did you guys came across this issue before?

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
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QUOTE(ericlai @ Mar 29 2016, 10:01 PM)
haha, we can never follow the latest technology unless we're very rich =D

I just went to this webiste below to download 4k samples to play on my tv. The file format is .encm. The tv and my pc also cannot play the file. Did you guys came across this issue before?

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
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on PC... 1080p, 1440p OK. 2160p cannot...

should play on 4k android box players.

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Mar 29 2016, 10:01 PM)
haha, we can never follow the latest technology unless we're very rich =D

I just went to this webiste below to download 4k samples to play on my tv. The file format is .encm. The tv and my pc also cannot play the file. Did you guys came across this issue before?

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
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This pretty much sums up why...

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This trailer is HDR Ultra HD, so ... you need a HDR & UHD TV.

This file can be READ ONLY on a Panasonic TV (HDR + 4K) !!!



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