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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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post Apr 10 2016, 04:41 PM

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There is still little 4K material. HDR will take even longer.


Meanwhile, use the ue630x to the full... install as many apps as you can!

I now have a nice Kodi superboxbuild and a few more apps in it. No need another box, just the tv will give movies, tv shows, news, sports, English, Chinese, Singapore , Indonesia, Thai tv... Etc. etc. quite a lot in HD and loads pretty fast. now that is a smart tv!!

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post Apr 11 2016, 04:29 PM

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Yeap, agree with AVFAN, very little 4k materials, maybe in 2017 only have slight HDR content floating around the internet =D

I just tried to connect my PC to the TV's HDMI straight instead of my AVR and then AVR to TV. I noticed that the ARC only supports stereo format from the sound properties under control panel. Even if i set the ARC audio to bitstream.

But when i try to watch movies with Kodi with 5.1 DTS audio format, my AVR able to receive the DTS signal with 5.1 sound. Sadly, it couldnt pass through DTS-MA and DTS-HD audio format.
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post Apr 11 2016, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 11 2016, 04:29 PM)
Yeap, agree with AVFAN, very little 4k materials, maybe in 2017 only have slight HDR content floating around the internet =D

I just tried to connect my PC to the TV's HDMI straight instead of my AVR and then AVR to TV. I noticed that the ARC only supports stereo format from the sound properties under control panel. Even if i set the ARC audio to bitstream.

But when i try to watch movies with Kodi with 5.1 DTS audio format, my AVR able to receive the DTS signal with 5.1 sound. Sadly, it couldnt pass through DTS-MA and DTS-HD audio format.
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i've been hunting for 4k material and got little.

they are not coming out as fast as i expected.

even this list is miserable!
http://www.blu-ray.com/4k/

however, the tv we have is still a good choice due to its master eng pro upscaling and the good android inside.

as for audio, dd/dts is already not bad. biggrin.gif

i remember a few years ago, some tv's go silent with dts videos as they refused to pay for the license.

dtshdma/ddtruehd... will become a standard arc feature in tv's when dd atmos and dts:x become popular, i.e. tv's will always be one step behind standalone players and boxes when it comes to audio.
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post Apr 11 2016, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 11 2016, 06:06 PM)
i've been hunting for 4k material and got little.

they are not coming out as fast as i expected.

even this list is miserable!
http://www.blu-ray.com/4k/

however, the tv we have is still a good choice due to its master eng pro upscaling and the good android inside.

as for audio, dd/dts is already not bad. biggrin.gif

i remember a few years ago, some tv's go silent with dts videos as they refused to pay for the license.

dtshdma/ddtruehd... will become a standard arc feature in tv's when dd atmos and dts:x become popular, i.e. tv's will always be one step behind standalone players and boxes when it comes to audio.
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post Apr 12 2016, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 11 2016, 11:38 PM)
Consolation... Come...  console.gif  console.gif  tongue.gif
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really, it will be some time before more 4k material comes out.

https://torrentfreak.com/first-netflix-4k-c...t-sites-150828/
according to above, a 4k tv episode is about 18gb (movie about 160gb), which comes out to be about 7MBps or about 54mbps.
so, i wonder if we are really getting 4k even on netflix with 25-30mbps speed! biggrin.gif


still, i am happy with the tv's upscaling and vibrant colors, esp for bdmv's.

been replacing part of old collection.

and talking about that, it is just a normal progress.... vhs->dvd->bluray/bdmv...->uhd4k...->hdr4k.

just another way to spend your money to pamper your eyes. laugh.gif
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post Apr 12 2016, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 12 2016, 11:47 AM)
really, it will be some time before more 4k material comes out.

https://torrentfreak.com/first-netflix-4k-c...t-sites-150828/
according to above, a 4k tv episode is about 18gb (movie about 160gb), which comes out to be about 7MBps or about 54mbps.
so, i wonder if we are really getting 4k even on netflix with 25-30mbps speed! biggrin.gif
still, i am happy with the tv's upscaling and vibrant colors, esp for bdmv's.

been replacing part of old collection.

and talking about that, it is just a normal progress.... vhs->dvd->bluray/bdmv...->uhd4k...->hdr4k.

just another way to spend your money to pamper your eyes. laugh.gif
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It's definitely going to be awhile before 4K really becomes the norm. Right now, despite all the noise & pushing, it's still just not enough. TV manufacturers and their like have completely saturated the 1080p market and had they continued pushing it, they would have faced profits stagnation, reductions and perhaps even losses.. So 4K tech was pushed and pushed hard. IMO, the upscaling is alright but one always know it's not the real deal. It is progress and progress we must. Hence, my waiting on the sidelines, while the market grows. 2020 has a nice ring to it, plus Malaysia would be a high income nation by then.. Yeah!! tongue.gif tongue.gif Seriously though, there's no where else to go but up, so 4K, HDR, HEVC format, etc will end up becoming a regular thing, just as finding 1080p movies with full HD audio is today.

As for Netflix or YouTube, it's kinda public knowledge that they don't stream as raw as the video file can get. We are definitely not getting true 1080p or 4K from them, cuz if they offered it as is, it would cost significantly more in terms of required equipment & Labour, to provide us the content and we as consumers would need even more bandwidth just to receive such.. Furthermore, their target market would be reduced as not everyone has access to cheap, fast and stable Internet connections (Malaysia whistling.gif) ... Besides, majority of the displays are just that good at making the streams look good.
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post Apr 14 2016, 11:28 PM

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It has begun... biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

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Sony Introduces X93D & X85D 4K HDR TVs in Malaysia, Retail from RM7,499.
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post Apr 15 2016, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 14 2016, 11:28 PM)
It has begun...  biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif
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i'll find a chance to see if these early hdr4k tv's produce better pq than uhd4k for a common 1080p file.

since there is practically no hdr and very few uhd files around! laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2016, 02:35 PM

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7.5K for X85D 55 inch , have to see what's the price of 93D version or upcoming 55"KS8000 from samsung. I'm eyeing 55inch max and from review/forum in amazon and AVS the X85D review is a bit mix.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 14 2016, 11:28 PM)
X85D using IPS panel shakehead.gif ,not sure X90D and X93d
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QUOTE(magnesium @ Dec 21 2015, 02:27 AM)
Cheapest one will serve me good.

No need 3d.

Not many 4k content.

Android box will give full control to what we need.
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exactly. Give me a large tv with hdmi, hd ready and an minipc for htpc and im good to go.
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post Apr 15 2016, 07:41 PM

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Is 58ue630x and 58 eu1m same?

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post Apr 15 2016, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(10071985 @ Apr 15 2016, 07:41 PM)
Is 58ue630x and 58 eu1m same?
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a repeat question.

check post #415.
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post Apr 15 2016, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 15 2016, 08:45 PM)
a repeat question.

check post #415.
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Thanks bro. Saw ur post too but from specs I don't see much difference
And I'm searching for 55ue630x but can't seems to find it,even in online stores such as 11street or lazada
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post Apr 15 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(10071985 @ Apr 15 2016, 10:43 PM)
Thanks bro. Saw ur post too but from specs I don't see much difference
And I'm searching for 55ue630x but can't seems to find it,even in online stores such as 11street or lazada
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it's 58ue630x.

thread starter danny wants to sell his.
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post Apr 15 2016, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(nomar @ Apr 15 2016, 02:35 PM)
7.5K for X85D 55 inch , have to see what's the price of 93D version or upcoming 55"KS8000 from samsung.  I'm eyeing 55inch max and from review/forum in amazon and AVS  the X85D review is a bit mix.
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RM7.5k for an IPS panel and it's a mediocre one somemore. Sony dropped the ball on this one.


QUOTE(bad2928 @ Apr 15 2016, 04:37 PM)
X85D using IPS panel shakehead.gif ,not sure X90D and X93d
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X90/93D uses VA panels. They're generally pretty good, but expect it to be overpriced. Also if you play games, look elsewhere. RTings and HDTVTest got 53ms with it. doh.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 15 2016, 11:17 PM)
RM7.5k for an IPS panel and it's a mediocre one somemore. Sony dropped the ball on this one.
X90/93D uses VA panels. They're generally pretty good, but expect it to be overpriced. Also if you play games, look elsewhere. RTings and HDTVTest got 53ms with it. doh.gif
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X8500c is on sale at desa home theatre warehouse sale for 6k + 65 inch. That's a pretty good tv but hdr is basic not ultra hd premium compliant.
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post Apr 17 2016, 10:09 PM

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http://www.lazada.com.my/fsh-rii-mini-x1-2...tv-6722885.html

Is this wireless keyboard or something similiar compatible with the Sharp 58ue630x? Or is it better to get separate wireless keyboard and mouse?

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post Apr 17 2016, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(susu_capbadak @ Apr 17 2016, 10:09 PM)
http://www.lazada.com.my/fsh-rii-mini-x1-2...tv-6722885.html

Is this wireless keyboard or something similiar compatible with the Sharp 58ue630x? Or is it better to get separate wireless keyboard and mouse?
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Yes I'm using a wireless keyboard with the TV. Just plug and play.
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 17 2016, 01:07 PM)
X8500c is on sale at desa home theatre warehouse sale for 6k + 65 inch. That's a pretty good tv but hdr is basic not ultra hd premium compliant.
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pretty good. but isnt that active 3d is cumbersome to maintain the battery and its not so natural ?

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