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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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SUSjdgobio
post Mar 30 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 29 2016, 10:35 PM)
on PC... 1080p, 1440p OK. 2160p cannot...

should play on 4k android box players.
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PC can play 2160p, but I suppose it depends on your graphic card/integrated graphic chip. I think the reason the file will not play is due to the uncommon file type.
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post Mar 30 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 29 2016, 10:54 PM)
This pretty much sums up why...
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That is so uncool of Panasonic to come up with such proprietary file/encoding formats. mad.gif
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post Mar 30 2016, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 30 2016, 09:42 AM)
That is so uncool of Panasonic to come up with such proprietary file/encoding formats.  mad.gif
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True, but no worries as long as the international community does not adopt it.. It'll either die, remain a niche product or they'll be forced to open it up. Will try it later in the day on the PC, just for the lols.
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post Mar 30 2016, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Mar 29 2016, 10:01 PM)
haha, we can never follow the latest technology unless we're very rich =D

I just went to this webiste below to download 4k samples to play on my tv. The file format is .encm. The tv and my pc also cannot play the file. Did you guys came across this issue before?

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 30 2016, 09:27 AM)
PC can play 2160p, but I suppose it depends on your graphic card/integrated graphic chip. I think the reason the file will not play is due to the uncommon file type.
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of course. most std 1080p pc's like mine cannot do 2160p. can do max 1440p... i tried it.

that is for the mp4 files from that site, not .encm.



i also tried playing one .encm and one mp4 file on my android player.

.encm is an unrecognized format for both the native player and kodi player.

the mp4 files, can play, no problem.

but... those 4k mp4 files from the link are not very good either.

those videos are watered down, i think - the force awakens trailer does not come out better than the full bdmv i have.

for better 4k demo videos, better go get from torrents.

"timescapes" and "ses 4 k test transmission" are better ones, i tested them long time ago.




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post Mar 30 2016, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 30 2016, 10:34 AM)
of course. most std 1080p pc's like mine cannot do 2160p. can do max 1440p... i tried it.

that is for the mp4 files from that site, not .encm.
i also tried playing one .encm and one mp4 file on my android player.

.encm is an unrecognized format for both the native player and kodi player.

the mp4 files, can play, no problem.

but... those 4k mp4 files from the link are not very good either.

those videos are watered down, i think - the force awakens trailer does not come out better than the full bdmv i have.

for better 4k demo videos, better go get from torrents.

"timescapes" and "ses 4 k test transmission" are better ones, i tested them long time ago.
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Pls pm your source for 4k bdmv. It's getting hard to find good quality files nowadays smile.gif
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post Mar 30 2016, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 30 2016, 10:44 AM)
Pls pm your source for 4k bdmv. It's getting hard to find good quality files nowadays  smile.gif
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no... not 4k bdmv, i don't have. biggrin.gif

i meant 4k demo videos and normal bdmv's.



these titles are in 4k but only on discs, i believe.
http://www.blu-ray.com/4k/

they will probably be 100gb each or so.

will probably need to wait a while for all of that to come.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 18 2016, 10:54 PM)
cannot talk such things in public... u got pm.
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Can PM me also? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 2 2016, 09:46 PM

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4k full movies are still very rare.

there is one i suggest u test on your player (whatever box u have) and the ue630x.

sword of destiny uhd (don't ask me where to get tongue.gif ) was first shown on netflix uhd.

i watched it in hd only then. the 4k file (30gb) is surely better.

the thing i want to highlight is it will only come out good, the way it should be, if your player has 2160p 24/30hz setting.

in addition, player should be either directly connected to the ue630x or to an AVR that has 4k pass through (not 4K upscaling).

if the 4k player is set to 1080p 50/60hz (to accomodate a non-4K avr), it may still play but there will be judders.

a non-4k player will not play the file at all.



the time will come when more videos in 4k become available. that will be the time to get a new gen AVR that has UHD4K pass through and DTS:X.

things move quickly - they keep upgrading, we keep spending money! biggrin.gif

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Thanks voncrane, yeah, the encm files is only for panasonic 4k tvs ;(

Btw, do you guys connect your UE630X to a PC (HTPC)? How do you guys achieve 4k resolution @60p?

Currently my PC is connected to the tv, but running at 1080p only (using R9 280 - no HDMI 2.0 port). i feel like wanna make full use of the tv's resolution to 4k (via display port of the graphics card).

Planning to invest a display port converter to HDMI 2.0 (links below), then connect HDMI 2.0 to the tv. i have a pioneer AVR with 4k passthrough, but i guess it only allow 4k30p instead of 4k60p.

http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/...ve-adapter.html
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post Apr 3 2016, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 3 2016, 05:19 PM)
Planning to invest a display port converter to HDMI 2.0 (links below), then connect HDMI 2.0 to the tv. i have a pioneer AVR with 4k passthrough, but i guess it only allow 4k30p instead of 4k60p.

http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/...ve-adapter.html
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2160p 60hz... videos are rare, except maybe home made ones. for both player and avr, that's maybe 5 years out, i think.

but seriously, why would u need 2160p 60hz?

which pioneer avr u have that's 4k pass thru? how old, price?

i am planning to get one in the next year for 4k pass thru and dts:x.
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post Apr 3 2016, 06:34 PM

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Yeap, 2160p videos are very rare. But i have tried to set it to 4k30p recently via the HDMI 1.4 port, the image is awesome. The text looks way sharper than 1080p resolution.

Tried star wars the force awakens 38 bdmv with it, both 1080p and 4k30p reso doesnt show much difference. But web browsing looks much better in 4k (with text scalling set to 175%) than 1080p.

I was thinking whether to upgrade it to nvidia GTX 950 since it support HDMI 2.0 or the display port converter.

My pioneer avr is VSX - 523-K, bought it 2 years ago for RM2.6k.

If you plan to buy avr nex year, be sure to look for HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support for future proofing.
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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 3 2016, 06:34 PM)
My pioneer avr is VSX - 523-K, bought it 2 years ago for RM2.6k.

If you plan to buy avr nex year, be sure to look for HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support for future proofing.
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ok, thanks for info.

for sure, my next avr will be at least hdmi 2.0 and hdcp2.2. biggrin.gif

am considering onkyo 747 and coming 757.

will be ok for next 5 years, i think.
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Wow, both the specs of the avr is yummy =D hmmm, if the price is right, i might be poisoned and get one next year too XD.

But in 2014, i heard onkyo avr got HDMI board and power supply problem, hope they have rectified all of these issues.
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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 3 2016, 07:26 PM)
Wow, both the specs of the avr is yummy =D hmmm, if the price is right, i might be poisoned and get one next year too XD.

But in 2014, i heard onkyo avr got HDMI board and power supply problem, hope they have rectified all of these issues.
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yes, there are such probems with some models.

my friend had problems with 607 and 818, swears he will never buy onkyo again. biggrin.gif

my own 706 has been very good, so i will stick to 7xx series.

i think the problems come about due to overheating.

i use it moderately, in aircond room, zero problems for 6 years.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 18 2016, 10:54 PM)
cannot talk such things in public... u got pm.
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Bro can PM too please?
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post Apr 8 2016, 01:39 PM

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can I know how important is support for HDR. if those tv without HDMI 2.2 means no HDR support ?
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post Apr 8 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 8 2016, 01:39 PM)
can I know how important is support for HDR. if those tv without HDMI 2.2 means no HDR support ?
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HDR is very very new, a 2016 thing.

UHD 4K TV's is not the latest.

latest is UHD PREMIUM, a class of UHD 4K TV that has HDR. biggrin.gif

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/hdr...ision-explained
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 8 2016, 01:39 PM)
can I know how important is support for HDR. if those tv without HDMI 2.2 means no HDR support ?
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very important if you really into 4k,because most of UHD bluray will come with HDR soon.but beware all hardware must support it too...
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post Apr 10 2016, 03:41 PM

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If not mistaken, you need HDMI 2.0a instead of HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2 to support HDR. Some forumers says HDMI 2.0a is just a software update. We shall know more about it in June or July this year during Computex event =D

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