After few months of research and viewing I've narrowed down my search for a minimum 65in tv :-

1) Philips 65in 5409 1080p with 600hz motion - rm4.4k
The good - good black levels and contrast, non reflective screen
The bad - limited features, basic TV, no 3d, no 4k

2) Philips 65in 6909 1080p, 800hz with 3d and backlight illumination - rm5.7k
The good - 800hz motion, good black levels and contrast, non reflective screen, active 3d
The bad - dated smart features, no 4k

3) Sony 65in W850C 1080p, 3d - rm5.8k
The good - good black levels, contrast, active 3d, Android tv
The bad - no 4k, reflective screen

4) Toshiba 65in L9450 4k - RM6.6k
The good - Good black levels and contrast, Android TV, 4k
The bad - no 3d

5) Sharp 70in 950x 1080p RM7.5k
The good - 4 colour screen, big screen for the money, 3d
The bad - No 4k, dated smart features

Which one would you choose given the budget of +/- RM7k?

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Feb 2 2016, 04:23 AM

Best place to view is Desa Home Kepong because they have all the tvs on display at once, and they play Astro HD so very easy to compare. If it can play low quality Astro well it should play 1080p and 4k content much better.

Picture quality wise 4) Toshiba beats 3) Sony. It has better blacks only 2nd to Oled.

Btw 55in oled price also dropped to rm6k+.

I believe all these tvs will look better once calibrated, but one thing can't be controlled is the black level, so I shortlisted all these for good black levels to my eyes. Only Sharp 950x is a bit off maybe because they use extra bright panels.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Dec 21 2015, 10:28 AM

Plasma also cost rm30k for 50in when Pioneer Kuro launched. It also took few years for price to drop.

In terms of affordability it already surpassed the best of Plasma and took a shorter period for it to become more affordable. In a short 2 years the prices drop from rm30k to rm6k+.

In terms of everything else especially picture quality also surpass with superior contrast and even better black levels.


If 55in is big enough for you, grab it and enjoy.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Dec 21 2015, 10:51 AM

Yes, but Samsung only good with the 7000-9000 series, which cost rm9k-20k+, they are still using led but backlight compared to edge lit for cheaper models. So it's out of my budget.

Toshiba L9450 uses the same backlight technology that's why it has very good black levels, take note this is the flagship model costing RM20+k last year end when it launched. If you go to Desa Home Kepong and when they play Astro HD it even give Oled a close fight.

Best price I got was RM6k for the OLED but no more stock already and that also no warranty so a bit risky. Those from retail shop the best I got was rm7.3k from USJ Taipan.

For me also PQ is a priority. Those smart etc it is better to get an Android box which is faster and more flexible. That's why I never put smart features as my priority. PQ should always be the priority that can't be improved upon with any Android box.

Are you able to get 4k 60hz to pay smoothly on Netflix? Minimum 30Mbps I presume?

OK I bit the bullet and chose a different TV from my initial list. Decided to go for the Sharp UE630e 4k series but a smaller one at 58". It also has very good black levels and was the flagship for 2015 Sharp lineup in Malaysia. Also has the latest Android TV though not my priority. Price was RM5080.

65 would be better but price is close to RM9k and I reckon will wait for oled prices to drop before splurging again, then this can be demoted to a good bedroom TV.

Will post my thoughts on this TV when it arrives next week. It was a toss between this or the 65in Philips 1080p model which was cheaper by RM600+.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 9 2016, 04:14 PM

Well some of the demos I did at Harvey Norman 1 Utama with HD material compared the 630x with the LG 65" Oled and this comes the closest. It just lose out on the black levels slightly but in terms of colour it was slightly more vibrant. I'm just comparing out of the box performance.

They didn't have the Philips model at Harvey so it was difficult to decide. I know 65" has so much more real estate and Philips works well with slightly low quality videos like Astro, but 65in if I were to move closer to the TV the pixels will be more noticeable and less forgiving to less than perfect sources. Also I was thinking as an entertainment unit it would be easier for the wife to use due to the build in Android Tv which we can use 4k sources like YouTube and Netflix out of the box, and expandable storage also helps.

The Toshiba was also close but I notice artifacts even with HD material so I put that slightly behind, but at rm6k+ it is the most affordable 65" 4k tv with good black levels.

Oh well u can't have them all and beggars can't be choosers, I also put into consideration I hardly have time to watch TV due to family life so some thoughts to the benefit of them made the Sharp an overall best choice. It only lose out on the size but compared to the current 40" Sony bravia 5yr+ model it replaces it will be a huge difference.

Btw my distance if compare the sofa closest to the TV is 8-9 feet and the furthest is 14-15 feet.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 10 2016, 05:59 AM

Take the reviews with a pinch of salt, I find the best way is to download some samples of 720p, 1080p and 4k. Go to Harvey Norman, ask them test all the TVs in your shortlist. And let u play with the settings.

I bought from HLK USJ 10/1A. Sharp doesn't have much reviews so you need to do self review.

Yes at RM5080 it's already a good discount. Retail was RM7k+ and other places like Harvey can only offer RM5990.

The advantage of getting a well stocked brand is ease of repairs should the time come vs limited stock or run out stock where you have less chances of getting parts.

Have a look at Toshiba l9450 also if you can accept the artifacts it is also quite decent. It should be similar to 9300 series where you can find reviews online but 9300 doesn't have good reviews .

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 11 2016, 12:45 PM

Good luck, hope you hear from your feedback after you've chosen. I need to inform you an observation also. Each outlet there are salesmen representing their own brands ie. Philips, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba etc, but they are not wearing their company uniform. They wear their the shop's uniform but being stationed there to help promote their TVs and other items.

So beware if you might be actually talking to TV representative instead of the shop's salesman. Of course, they will recommend their own brand compared to the rest. This is a very sneaky tactic and also not noticeable.

Yes not worth buying close to rm10k, within 1-2 years OLED should be that price

Still waiting for the TV to arrive.. HLK order from Sharp then Sharp send to HLK then only to my place .. ETA this coming Wednesday, longer than I expected. Hope it will perform well!

Never trust demo videos, as they are specially designed for the TV and do not represent actual footage you watch. Better bring your own files and play the same file over a few tvs you have chosen. Then the results will be very different.

I like the Samsung JS 8000/9000 series but the price is too close to Oled so I didn't consider them.

If not mistaken close to rm7k for 55" and rm15-20k for 65", while 55" 7000 series have very poor contrast due to IPS panel - see http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/js7000.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 15 2016, 10:41 PM

Yea I think the panel is too bright more suited to places with lots of lights.

The price is pretty close to the 630x but bigger by 2", I went for the 630 as I couldn't accept the black levels of the 90x.

Congratulations, which size did u get and was it a good price?

There's one shop there offering 5 years warranty at the time, asking for rm5.3k for 58". Should have gotten from there as they had the stock to deliver next day, but only found out after I bought mine.

If you find out any good calibration settings pls share too!

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 17 2016, 10:46 AM

Wise choice, great u got the same tv, can share some tips after playing around with it.

Ic then it should perform well, only thing that prohibit will be the price, so close to OLED.

6.9k still reasonable. On paper 55-60 is 5in but actual screen size is a lot bigger. If you can afford the 60 do go for it. Even 58in to 60 there is a difference but more marginal.

Btw today is Harvey Norman warehouse sale at Citta Mall last day. They got a 8000 series Samsung Plasma 64in going for rm6k. Maybe worthwhile for those who want good picture quality.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 17 2016, 08:22 PM

Hdr will bring led tv closer to Oled, but new tech won't come cheap, it took 2 years for a rm30k 55in oled to drop to 7k+ and we still think it's expensive for 55in.

Hopefully in a few years 4k projectors will be more affordable too, it will be nice having a 120in 4k screen for movies.

Read the review already, http://www.trustedreviews.com/jvc-dla-x5000b-w-review

It still uses 1080p panel and priced above rm20k.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 18 2016, 03:44 AM

Nice to know, looking forward to receiving mine tomorrow

Hopefully can fit the wall mount.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 19 2016, 08:47 AM