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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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post Jan 10 2016, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jan 9 2016, 04:13 PM)
OK I bit the bullet and chose a different TV from my initial list. Decided to go for the Sharp UE630e 4k series but a smaller one at 58". It also has very good black levels and was the flagship for 2015 Sharp lineup in Malaysia. Also has the latest Android TV though not my priority. Price was RM5080.
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post Jan 11 2016, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jan 11 2016, 05:20 PM)
Really makes one wonder if the Sharp TVs are any good.
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sharp has been going thru a lot of changes, not making much profit, like many japanese electronic/electrical cos. due to strong yen which has been appr against even the usd becos of china's rmb continuous devaluation.

they tend to spend more money on the technology r&d, incl the 8k tv just launched.

samsung and lg spend a lot of money on advertising and pr.

sony, panasonic, philips... in the middle.



i have bought 4 sharps in the last 7 years.

none has failed.

newest one is the lc50ue630x, a 4k uhdtv - very satisfied with it.

sharp has a good loyal customer base.

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post Jan 23 2016, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Jan 23 2016, 09:18 PM)
Finally manage to wall mount my UE630X after calling Sharp factory in Shah Alam.
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hello sharp ue630x series member.

try netflix in 4k uhd on your tv!
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3828808/+200

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post Jan 24 2016, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Jan 24 2016, 02:03 PM)
i don't have netflix account and my unifi is only 5mbps... not sure if it's worth it
I know it is dame nice to watch in 4k but is there enough contents on netflix to justify the subscription and unifi upgrade?

Any comments?
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i posted my findings in the Netflix thread.

at this time, there are almost no movies in 4k.

quite a fair bit for tv series and documentaries.

almost all content are in at least HD, assuming the choice was standard or UHD (and not basic).

the tv has good upscaling capability, so even HD comes out excellent.

it is almost as good as full 1080p files usb playback.


what u can do is try the netflix std/hd option. it's free for 1 month trial.

see if it comes out good. i think 5mbps can do it if there are no others using it.

if it works good, and netflix content improves incl 4k, then u can consider upgrading yr broadband speed, subscribe netflix.



i was skeptical at first but now, having watched hd/4k, i am considering...
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post Jan 24 2016, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Jan 24 2016, 03:02 PM)
Ok, since everyone is asking me to use the free trial, will give it a go.
Hope I don't get addicted...
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of course you will be...! biggrin.gif

my own experience... having moved on to mostly 1080p/bdmv/bluray, 4k tv and now netflix hd/uhd, i don't watch sd anymore.

the lowest i will watch is 720p/1080i. tongue.gif

well, that's why all the $ spent on the equipment and internet speed.



lastly, if u dun already know, only netflix certified tv's and devices will get hd/uhd. non certified ones will get just sd, 480p.
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post Jan 25 2016, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 25 2016, 10:53 AM)
my sony failed me in the 3rd year . My panasonic failed me in the 2nd year. SIGH doh.gif
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durability and reliability is very impt - saves a lot of time and money over the years.

like all electrical appliances and electronic gadgets, one tends to develop some prejudice over brands.

can become a very personal set of choices, at least for me.

over the last decade, for progressive buying, i come to stick to these brands very firmly:

tv - sharp
air cond - mitsubishi
pc/notebook - dell
routers, networking equipment - asus
android boxes - himedia

other things like handphones, tablets... still trying a variety, no bias... biggrin.gif



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post Jan 25 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 25 2016, 11:08 AM)
thanks for the info . My favourite tv brand was sony . But , now dunno what brand to choose already.  rclxub.gif
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i had 3 sony's before i switched to sharp.

the old sony's esp the CRT's were excellent, can last >15 years! biggrin.gif

lcd/led, i really don't know...
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post Jan 27 2016, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(mengga @ Jan 27 2016, 04:46 PM)
I have plans to buy this TV because I like the quality and price. Do you know if it can play video from a USB Drive formatted with NTFS format or just FAT/FAT32 as in the user manual.
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sharp ue630x can take 2tb hdd, ntfs.

it can playback the common formats; can even play bdmv. the video quality output is good, not inferior to other media players.

expected, some minor disadvantages compared to full fledged android media players - the display for folders/files is poor, words too small; every time u change hdd, may need to power off/on due to slow reading or error; navigation incl subs, audio tracks a little clumsy. lastly, the usb ports are all at back of tv and not side - problematic for wall mounts and hdd's with short cables.

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post Jan 27 2016, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jan 27 2016, 07:15 PM)
Can these problems be solved by using a 3rd party app from the Playstore? The advantages of Android TV should be the availability of apps to be used instead of the built-in media player. I think all the built-in media players are crap.
Maybe you should try installing Kodi and see if that works for you?
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i really don't know, first time trying it on new 4k tv. biggrin.gif

been using standalone media/android players for a few years, prefer them.

i was just answering someone's question.

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post Jan 27 2016, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jan 27 2016, 07:45 PM)
One thing to take note though, you will never get HD audio from any TV apps. You will need a separate box for that and most android boxes don't passthrough HD audio, only selected ones do this. Since you're an AV Fan, you might already know this  biggrin.gif
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yup, that is why i just try it for knowledge sake.

no plans to play kodi, plex, vlc on the tv.

busy enough with the standalone androids! laugh.gif



but... i have to say i am pleased the 4k tv android served one good purpose - it can get uhd 4k netflix while my other androids cannot.
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post Jan 28 2016, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 27 2016, 11:10 PM)
Box setups like Nvidia Shield should be able to get Netflix 4K right?
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yes, it is listed as netflix certified.

but u need a 4k tv for that, and most major brand 4k tv's are already certified.

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post Jan 28 2016, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 28 2016, 02:46 AM)
4K TVs must be HDCP 2.2 compliant too right? How is your audio setup? Connect to any AVR?
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i have not tested the audio part.

it has been said here that if the video carries 5.1 dd, hdmi arc should do the job.
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post Jan 28 2016, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 28 2016, 12:31 PM)
Planning on using an external Android box for streaming instead of relying on smart TV software. I have a Yamaha YSP-2500 soundbar and the specs say it can passthrough 4k. My current TV (not smart TV and does not do 4K) uses HDMI ARC. Problem is the HDMI ports on the soundbar are not HDCP 2.2. Youtube 4K should be fine but not for Netflix 4K.

I think to run Netflix 4K, I would need to connect the Android box directly to the TV and rely on using optical out from TV to the soundbar or AVR?

Currently giving the whole setup thing a deep thought but I've yet to come to the 4K TV part.  sweat.gif
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jdgobio has explained it well.

1. a box that can handle 4k does not mean it can do netflix 4k - tv, boxes or sticks, it has be certified by netflix.
check the list:
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444
and if yr tv is not 4k, whatever box or stick, u will NOT get 4k.


2. 4k is for video, nothing to do with audio or sound bar. u can have 4k video 2.0 audio or 1080p dtshdma 5.1 or dolby atmos 7.1.

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post Jan 28 2016, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 28 2016, 04:19 PM)
Yes, I'm fully aware. Hence I mentioned that I've yet to look for a 4K TV. It's still on my to do list.  blush.gif
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a box cost rm500, 800 maybe.

a 4k tv will cost up anything 3.5k to 10k.

so, very impt to find the tv u want and need! biggrin.gif

good news is a no. of people here already bought 4k tv, can help u evaluate.
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 29 2016, 12:20 PM)
Yes I'm aware that good smart TVs already have built in Netflix app and other apps as well. My preference for an external Android box is not and should not be interpreted as the only sensible route to getting Netflix 4K. I mentioned my need for an external Android box is so that I can retire my old HTPC.
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nividia shield is probably at top of the range now. most expensive too.

if u can afford it, why not?

while it may make sense to start with a low end one to learn about androids, it can be very rewarding to start with a premium one so as not to get stuck here and there with memory, features etc.

some of us who have used androids for some time will always advise to go premium, not low end! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 31 2016, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jan 30 2016, 12:48 PM)
For owners of Sharp UE630X TV, do you guys find any dimness on the 4 corners when it is total grey background? Normally when you TV is on standby mode and when you first then on.

Is it because this is where the led is situated? It's not really noticeable once the picture turns on though.

I'm wondering if it is normal or is there some defect?
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i am not sure but i think i know what u mean.

i think it is part of the tv launcher at startup.



btw, may be good if u will edit the secondary title of this thread to sharp ue630x series since that was the outcome for you, may be useful for others! biggrin.gif

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post Feb 1 2016, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Feb 1 2016, 07:57 AM)
ok, signed up for netflix free trial over the weekend ....

try watching daredevil 4k and it played even tho i'm only on unifi 5mbps.
but PQ i don't think it is 4k but still very very good...

now addicted to it.... better cancel while the addiction is not too great....  icon_question.gif

thks for all the info..  thumbup.gif
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there is display for every tv show - hd, uhd. no display = sd 480p.

yr ue630x tv has good upscaling, so the 480p comes out good too.

i would think with 5mbps, u are getting just sd even if u subsribe uhd.



now, u should try IFLIX! biggrin.gif

it's free for 1 yr at least.

however, iflix app does not appear on the tv's playstore.

so, need to get es file explorer first (it is in playstore)

next, find a way to get the iflix APK from somewhere else.

then, install apk via usb on the tv using es file explorer.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3841807/+20
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post Feb 1 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Feb 1 2016, 04:39 PM)
I noticed there are 2 settings on HDMI1 :-

1) Limited
2) Full 4:4:4

Option 2 has warning that only if your hardware support.

Which one do you use?

Also does the Sharp UE630X have any sports function or motion function that can be turned on/off?
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hdmi1 - full.
this is for my android box 4k capable and a new 4k hdmi cable.
works ok, no problem.

all other hdmi's - set to limited.

i confirm that with tv optical audio output bitstream setting, can get dd 5.1 on netflix, beside uhd 4k video.



as we now start to discuss more on SHARP UE630X series, i again suggest u amend thread secondary title so that users and potential buyers know this thread has some good info for this brand series. i don't notice another thread for SHARP UHD 4K TV!


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post Feb 1 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(susu_capbadak @ Feb 1 2016, 10:12 PM)
Agree cause me now are leaning towards SHARP after several people here owns it...  laugh.gif
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it's a good 4k tv.

i posted my comments about netflix and iflix on this tv - both work very well.

check the threads if interested.

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