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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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TSDannyOP
post Dec 21 2015, 01:15 AM, updated 7y ago

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After few months of research and viewing I've narrowed down my search for a minimum 65in tv :-

1) Philips 65in 5409 1080p with 600hz motion - rm4.4k
The good - good black levels and contrast, non reflective screen
The bad - limited features, basic TV, no 3d, no 4k

2) Philips 65in 6909 1080p, 800hz with 3d and backlight illumination - rm5.7k
The good - 800hz motion, good black levels and contrast, non reflective screen, active 3d
The bad - dated smart features, no 4k

3) Sony 65in W850C 1080p, 3d - rm5.8k
The good - good black levels, contrast, active 3d, Android tv
The bad - no 4k, reflective screen

4) Toshiba 65in L9450 4k - RM6.6k
The good - Good black levels and contrast, Android TV, 4k
The bad - no 3d

5) Sharp 70in 950x 1080p RM7.5k
The good - 4 colour screen, big screen for the money, 3d
The bad - No 4k, dated smart features

Which one would you choose given the budget of +/- RM7k?

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post Dec 21 2015, 01:27 AM

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Cheapest one will serve me good.

No need 3d.

Not many 4k content.

Android box will give full control to what we need.
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post Dec 21 2015, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Dec 21 2015, 01:15 AM)
After few months of research and viewing I've narrowed down my search for a minimum 65in tv :-

1) Philips 65in 5409 1080p with 600hz motion - rm4.4k
The good - good black levels and contrast, non reflective screen
The bad - limited features, basic TV, no 3d, no 4k

2) Philips 65in 6909  1080p, 800hz with 3d and backlight illumination - rm5.7k
The good - 800hz motion, good black levels and contrast, non reflective screen, active 3d
The bad - dated smart features, no 4k

3) Sony 65in W850C 1080p, 3d - rm5.8k
The good - good black levels, contrast, active 3d, Android tv
The bad - no 4k, reflective screen

4) Toshiba 65in L9450 4k - RM6.6k
The good - Good black levels and contrast, Android TV, 4k
The bad - no 3d

5) Sharp 70in 950x 1080p RM7.5k
The good - 4 colour screen, big screen for the money, 3d
The bad - No 4k, dated smart features

Which one would you choose given the budget of +/- RM7k?
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post Dec 21 2015, 06:03 AM

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well based on lack of content in 3d and 4k,we hv a choice of either Toshiba or a sony!!
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post Dec 21 2015, 06:54 AM

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Size does matter so will go with the biggest
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post Dec 21 2015, 07:03 AM

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Go for sony
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post Dec 21 2015, 07:33 AM

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No. 3 & 4 fight.

I dont prefer 3D.
Take no.3 if u dont need 4k. For me, I will consider 4k future proof since we r not often changing tv.
Picture wise, I believe Sony better. I havent seen the Toshiba for comparison.

Good luck,bro.

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post Dec 21 2015, 09:13 AM

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(1) wins on price.

(3) sounds matching with my PS4, but the pricing is a big letdown for a 1080p TV, IMHO.

4k TVs are still a bit pricey to me.
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post Dec 21 2015, 09:51 AM

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Still cannot find a TV can match or beat Plasma TV for price <5k, Lets pray OLED catch up with lifespan and price affordability.
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:23 AM

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Best place to view is Desa Home Kepong because they have all the tvs on display at once, and they play Astro HD so very easy to compare. If it can play low quality Astro well it should play 1080p and 4k content much better.

Picture quality wise 4) Toshiba beats 3) Sony. It has better blacks only 2nd to Oled.

Btw 55in oled price also dropped to rm6k+.

I believe all these tvs will look better once calibrated, but one thing can't be controlled is the black level, so I shortlisted all these for good black levels to my eyes. Only Sharp 950x is a bit off maybe because they use extra bright panels.

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 21 2015, 09:51 AM)
Still cannot find a TV can match or beat Plasma TV for price <5k, Lets pray OLED catch up with lifespan and price affordability.
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Plasma also cost rm30k for 50in when Pioneer Kuro launched. It also took few years for price to drop.

In terms of affordability it already surpassed the best of Plasma and took a shorter period for it to become more affordable. In a short 2 years the prices drop from rm30k to rm6k+.

In terms of everything else especially picture quality also surpass with superior contrast and even better black levels.


If 55in is big enough for you, grab it and enjoy.

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Dec 21 2015, 10:50 AM)
Plasma also cost rm30k for 50in when Pioneer Kuro launched. It also took few years for price to drop.

In terms of affordability it already surpassed the best of Plasma and took a shorter period for it to become more affordable. In a short 2 years the prices drop from rm30k to rm6k+.

In terms of everything else especially picture quality also surpass with superior contrast and even better black levels.
If 55in is big enough for you, grab it and enjoy.
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I hope by the time my mini plasma due for change, it drop further. 50-55" just nice for my living room. Price have to save bit more.
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I am still using my plasma, Pioneer 720p,>5 yrs liao.
I also hope by the time I need a new tv, OLED would be cheaper.
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post Dec 21 2015, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Dec 21 2015, 10:23 AM)
Best place to view is Desa Home Kepong because they have all the tvs on display at once, and they play Astro HD so very easy to compare.  If it can play low quality Astro well it should play 1080p and 4k content much better.

Picture quality wise 4) Toshiba beats 3) Sony. It has better blacks only 2nd to Oled. 

Btw 55in oled price also dropped to rm6k+.

I believe all these tvs will look better once calibrated, but one thing can't be controlled is the black level, so I shortlisted all these for good black levels to my eyes. Only Sharp 950x is a bit off maybe because they use extra bright panels.
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Toshiba has good black levels? hmm.gif

Have you seen some Samsung TVs? Their higher end ones.. which has really deep black levels, I almost mistook them as OLED. But it's not, they are using some kind of technology, can't remember the marketing term they used. Around RM7-10k if not mistaken..
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 21 2015, 06:07 PM)
Toshiba has good black levels? hmm.gif

Have you seen some Samsung TVs? Their higher end ones.. which has really deep black levels, I almost mistook them as OLED. But it's not, they are using some kind of technology, can't remember the marketing term they used. Around RM7-10k if not mistaken..
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the only way to test black level is in dark room,not in the showroom or review and testing with proper gear

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ Dec 21 2015, 06:23 PM)
the only way to test black level is in dark room,not in the showroom or review and testing with proper gear

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post Dec 21 2015, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 21 2015, 06:07 PM)
Toshiba has good black levels? hmm.gif

Have you seen some Samsung TVs? Their higher end ones.. which has really deep black levels, I almost mistook them as OLED. But it's not, they are using some kind of technology, can't remember the marketing term they used. Around RM7-10k if not mistaken..
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Yes, but Samsung only good with the 7000-9000 series, which cost rm9k-20k+, they are still using led but backlight compared to edge lit for cheaper models. So it's out of my budget.

Toshiba L9450 uses the same backlight technology that's why it has very good black levels, take note this is the flagship model costing RM20+k last year end when it launched. If you go to Desa Home Kepong and when they play Astro HD it even give Oled a close fight.


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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Dec 21 2015, 10:50 AM)
Plasma also cost rm30k for 50in when Pioneer Kuro launched. It also took few years for price to drop.

In terms of affordability it already surpassed the best of Plasma and took a shorter period for it to become more affordable. In a short 2 years the prices drop from rm30k to rm6k+.

In terms of everything else especially picture quality also surpass with superior contrast and even better black levels.
If 55in is big enough for you, grab it and enjoy.
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Hi DannyOP, where was the best price for the LG 55EC930T?
I am also looking for a large screen tv preferably 65 inches with a similar budget of max 7k. But there seems to be many compromises for all the 65 inchers within this budget. 10k seems to be the sweetspot but it's too much for a tv.

I would prefer to have 4k and 3D even if it may not be very useful but PQ is also a priority. The Toshiba seems nice but it doesn't have hdcp 2.2 so netflix 4k will not work same as any other 4k streaming services with copy protected content. I believe it also doesn't have 4k 60 fps but I can't find this info.

At the moment considering to just get the oled and just live with a smaller screen rather than compromise on pq. Haihhh... so difficult to decide.

Maybe it's best to just wait for the prices to come down further.
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to have both 4k and 3d, it'll be very expensive.
to fit the OP price category, you have to choose either one.
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Latest oled LG Malaysia site is EC model, is that like few version/generation back?

Thought latest model is EG n EF (which is flat)

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