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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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gme
post Mar 4 2016, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Mar 3 2016, 08:10 AM)
Last I checked rm7k++

630x rm8k+

Picture quality of 630x is better.
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tq bro...if diference only 1k....better get 630x la..
I ingat,diferent >2k..
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post Mar 4 2016, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 3 2016, 10:01 AM)
price diff should be about rm1k.

for that, there are a no. of significant differences.

the 630x has a much better android inside, 4 hdmi input instead of 2, picture quality is definitely better.

u can check the rest here:
https://www.sharp.com.my/docs/index.html
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tq bro...

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post Mar 4 2016, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(gme @ Mar 4 2016, 01:45 AM)
tq bro...
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why the price different 65 and 58 very big.. cry.gif
3k for extra 7 inch... confused.gif
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post Mar 4 2016, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(gme @ Mar 4 2016, 02:12 AM)
why the price different 65 and 58 very big.. cry.gif
3k for extra 7 inch... confused.gif
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like many things, price to size graph is not a straight line but exponential! biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2016, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 4 2016, 02:16 AM)
like many things, price to size graph is not a straight line but exponential! biggrin.gif
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I will wait..
hope end of this year,the price down to below 7k... hmm.gif
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post Mar 4 2016, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(gme @ Mar 4 2016, 02:12 AM)
why the price different 65 and 58 very big.. cry.gif
3k for extra 7 inch... :confused:
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Yes that's why I got the 58" initially, if u have a big hall better to opt for the 65". I'm upgrading to a bigger one too.
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post Mar 4 2016, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Mar 4 2016, 08:47 AM)
Yes that's why I got the 58" initially, if u have a big hall better to opt for the 65". I'm upgrading to a bigger one too.
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I will definitely encourage you to try to get the biggest you could afford. It makes a difference and it is one of the primary regrets of TV buyers for not going big biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2016, 11:37 AM

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Any of you guys have problem with the usb connection in Sharp LC58UE630X? everytime i plug my pendrive to watch in TV and plug back to PC, windows says it detected problem and need to scan. In manual it says don't insert and remove pendrive repeatedly but then it also says do not use USB cable. But we have to plug and remove everyday to watch new things from PC right? Cannot use the cable below?


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QUOTE(susu_capbadak @ Mar 4 2016, 11:37 AM)
Any of you guys have problem with the usb connection in Sharp LC58UE630X? everytime i plug my pendrive to watch in TV and plug back to PC, windows says it detected problem and need to scan.  In manual it says don't insert and remove pendrive repeatedly but then it also says do not use USB cable.  But we have to plug and remove everyday to watch new things from PC right? Cannot use the cable below?
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Why don't you connect your TV to your home network (LAN) so that you can access your PC files from the TV? No need to transfer files to a hard drive and plug-in to the TV.


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post Mar 4 2016, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 4 2016, 12:01 PM)
Why don't you connect your TV to your home network (LAN) so that you can access your PC files from the TV? No need to transfer files to a hard drive and plug-in to the TV.
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Hmm didn't know can do that. Have to dig in manual and see how, looks complicated sweat.gif
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QUOTE(susu_capbadak @ Mar 4 2016, 12:11 PM)
Hmm didn't know can do that.  Have to dig in manual and see how, looks complicated  sweat.gif
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Not complicated. Just try to figure out how to turn-on DLNA server on your PC and then you should be able to access your PC files.

You can also use Plex app if you want. Install Plex media server on your PC and then on your TV install the Plex app.


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QUOTE(susu_capbadak @ Mar 4 2016, 11:37 AM)
Any of you guys have problem with the usb connection in Sharp LC58UE630X? everytime i plug my pendrive to watch in TV and plug back to PC, windows says it detected problem and need to scan.  In manual it says don't insert and remove pendrive repeatedly but then it also says do not use USB cable.   But we have to plug and remove everyday to watch new things from PC right? Cannot use the cable below?
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i have been thru this, mentioned that in an earlier post - the usb playback function is not very good. while the codecs are fine in that it can play many formats incl m2ts and able to arc dts/dd, the usb player is not well developed for connectivity and navigation. not surprising as sharp is a tv maker and not a media player maker.

the usb cannot handle usb plug ins and outs repeatedly; it will show empty folder. u need to do it slowly, give it time. often, u need to switch off the tv or even cut off power completely to reset it. once u get it, it will work fine. no diff with tumbdrives or powered hdd.

QUOTE(susu_capbadak @ Mar 4 2016, 12:11 PM)
Hmm didn't know can do that.  Have to dig in manual and see how, looks complicated  sweat.gif
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the tv can stream, but again, it does it clumsily unlike an android box.

the simplest way is to install es file explorer in the tv, set up the LAN function to access yr PC. at yr PC end, you must first allow "share with". this is basically SAMBA.

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 4 2016, 12:32 PM)
Not complicated. Just try to figure out how to turn-on DLNA server on your PC and then you should be able to access your PC files.

You can also use Plex app if you want. Install Plex media server on your PC and then on your TV install the Plex app.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 4 2016, 02:19 PM)
i have been thru this, mentioned that in an earlier post - the usb playback function is not very good. while the codecs are fine in that it can play many formats incl m2ts and able to arc dts/dd, the usb player is not well developed for connectivity and navigation. not surprising as sharp is a tv maker and not a media player maker.

the usb cannot handle usb plug ins and outs repeatedly; it will show empty folder. u need to do it slowly, give it time. often, u need to switch off the tv or even cut off power completely to reset it. once u get it, it will work fine. no diff with tumbdrives or powered hdd.
the tv can stream, but again, it does it clumsily unlike an android box.

the simplest way is to install es file explorer in the tv, set up the LAN function to access yr PC. at yr PC end, you must first allow "share with". this is basically SAMBA.
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Thanks for the tips guys, will attempt to do that when i have the time...
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post Mar 4 2016, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 4 2016, 02:19 PM)
i have been thru this, mentioned that in an earlier post - the usb playback function is not very good. while the codecs are fine in that it can play many formats incl m2ts and able to arc dts/dd, the usb player is not well developed for connectivity and navigation. not surprising as sharp is a tv maker and not a media player maker.

the usb cannot handle usb plug ins and outs repeatedly; it will show empty folder. u need to do it slowly, give it time. often, u need to switch off the tv or even cut off power completely to reset it. once u get it, it will work fine. no diff with tumbdrives or powered hdd.
the tv can stream, but again, it does it clumsily unlike an android box.

the simplest way is to install es file explorer in the tv, set up the LAN function to access yr PC. at yr PC end, you must first allow "share with". this is basically SAMBA.
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Sounds like Sharp really screwed up there huh.. On the older Samsung Smart hub here, it handles USB drives & media playback beautifully. Upon plug in, a popup appears on screen asking how to view the plugged in device: As Files (regular explorer style), Pictures (gallery) or Videos (Thumbnails with scrolling images from within each media file). No lag, also HDMI-ARC, DTS/DD detection just works. After playback or if one simply wants to disconnect, simply press the Source button repeatedly till the drive is selected, hold down on the enter button to dismount the drive safely, a confirmation notice appears to that effect, the drive can now be unplugged safely.. Alternatively, it also performs a safe eject when the TV is placed in standby mode.. I've performed either method, hundreds of times, with multiple drives & never had any issues.. Hopefully, it's incorporated & performs better in the newer Tizen OS. The Android TV OS is supposed to be smarter.

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 4 2016, 03:26 PM)
Sounds like Sharp really screwed up there huh..
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yes, they did with this range.

even on my older non-smart sharp but with usb playback, it is better, much like other players. mad.gif
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If you guys are thinking of buying over 50" TV, there is a better alternative.

Check out:

http://www.enet-trading.com

Link to the demo video

https://youtu.be/aGJE9b4h_Sw

PM me for price.

Cheers!

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 4 2016, 03:53 PM)
yes, they did with this range.

even on my older non-smart sharp but with usb playback, it is better, much like other players. mad.gif
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hmm.gif hmm.gif Perhaps, they were in a hurry to pump out 4K TVs running Android TV and didn't bother much or didn't have enough time to squash bugs like those.. Good thing is, as long as it's not hardware limited, such issues might be rectified with an OTA firmware update.

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 4 2016, 04:02 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif Perhaps, they were in a hurry to pump out 4K TVs and didn't bother much or didn't have enough time to squash bugs like those.. Good thing is, as long as it's not hardware limited, such issues might be rectified with an OTA firmware update.
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ya, looks like they rushed it for the new android 4k range.

new firmwares still coming, will hv to wait and see if there will be improvement.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 4 2016, 03:26 PM)
Sounds like Sharp really screwed up there huh.. On the older Samsung Smart hub here, it handles USB drives & media playback beautifully. Upon plug in, a popup appears on screen asking how to view the plugged in device: As Files (regular explorer style), Pictures (gallery) or Videos (Thumbnails with scrolling images from within each media file). No lag, also HDMI-ARC, DTS/DD detection just works. After playback or if one simply wants to disconnect, simply press the Source button repeatedly till the drive is selected, hold down on the enter button to dismount the drive safely, a confirmation notice appears to that effect, the drive can now be unplugged safely.. Alternatively, it also performs a safe eject when the TV is placed in standby mode.. I've performed either method, hundreds of times, with multiple drives & never had any issues.. Hopefully, it's incorporated & performs better in the newer Tizen OS. The Android TV OS is supposed to be smarter.
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My old 2010 Samsung pre-smart hub aTV also handles USB drives competently and can do DLNA without issues.
I realized that the Sharp had issues with USB media playback when I couldn't get my HDD to work on it in 2 different shops. All the Samsung's on the other hand, read it just fine and gave a pop up.

Well at least there are other ways to make it work via the Android TV.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 4 2016, 04:02 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif Perhaps, they were in a hurry to pump out 4K TVs running Android TV and didn't bother much or didn't have enough time to squash bugs like those.. Good thing is, as long as it's not hardware limited, such issues might be rectified with an OTA firmware update.
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I feel Android Tv is still at the early stage, still many things can be improved. For my usage to access files, Plex is a good option instead of plugging and unplugging devices.

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