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mivecv6
post Aug 13 2017, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Aug 10 2017, 09:03 PM)
Your question is very vague !  rclxub.gif  Vogue as you call is actually Oscar brand. There is 7 speed, 8 speed and even 21 speed and 24 speed. Most probably the one you are asking about is 7 speed. Also there are steel frame and also aluminum frame. The Vogue model is OK if it is the aluminum frame and it actually a copy of the Dahon Speed but made by others. This I mean the standard model and not the curved Dolphin model. I can't say the components are good though but as something to catalyst you into more serious riding and bikes, it should be OK.

That said, for a newbie who have not really ride before, you won't differentiate YET why some bikes are so much more expensive but you will eventually if you are still riding after some time. But commuting to MRT , meaning carrying it on the trains, the fold won't be convenient on cheaper brands but adaptable with some difficulty like heavier weight and bulkiness.

Come to think of it, there's not one 16 inch folding bike within that price range  hmm.gif  16 inch wheels folds more compact and smaller for commuting. Most 16 inchers are above certain quality.

I think for another extra RM200, you can get the Oscar Vogue, 8 speed , aluminum frame from Kimbell Jaya in Cheras. But maybe the one from online is the same , I can't be sure.
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Thank you so much for your replies and input etigge,KenC,weikee & mizi28
Appreciate it very much.

Yeah, it was a pretty vague question indeed and I do apologise for that.
I took all the advice and suggestions from all of you and did my own research as well.
It seems to me that 16" aluminium will be the best bet for daily MRT commuting in terms of portability.

I'll fork out a bit more and will be getting the XDS FA16 7sp for myself and Oscar Vogue 16" for my fiancé.
Would love for her to get into biking as well during the weekends.
Still waiting on the stock availability from SL Dengkil and will post up pics when they're here.

Thanks guys!




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post Aug 14 2017, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(mivecv6 @ Aug 13 2017, 09:59 PM)
Thank you so much for your replies and input etigge,KenC,weikee & mizi28
Appreciate it very much.

Yeah, it was a pretty vague question indeed and I do apologise for that.
I took all the advice and suggestions from all of you and did my own research as well.
It seems to me that 16" aluminium will be the best bet for daily MRT commuting in terms of portability.

I'll fork out a bit more and will be getting the XDS FA16 7sp for myself and Oscar Vogue 16" for my fiancé.
Would love for her to get into biking as well during the weekends.
Still waiting on the stock availability from SL Dengkil and will post up pics when they're here.

Thanks guys!
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I think you should get the same bike for your fiance as well. The XDS FA16 is a good choice. The picture here, is a retired teacher who has been riding hers since 2013 and she's still riding it. Only problem is after you improve on your stamina and skills, the gear ratio is not high enough when you want to go faster. Reason is, on 7 speeds, the smallest cog on the rear is 14 teeths and when ride fast, you will be free wheeling. It's good enough for commuting though. The one in the picture has been modified by me to 8 speed with 11/32T cassette at the rear for better long distance riding.

The folded size is small enough to actually fit into the IKEA Dimpa bag as you can see in the pictures. The Bromptons also is about the size but the Bromptons' wheel are an inch bigger in diameter.

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post Aug 14 2017, 02:55 AM

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Better get same bike… wait she say you don't love her enough… LoL
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post Aug 14 2017, 09:50 AM

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im echoing the same wave here. get the same bike! biggrin.gif wink.gif

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post Aug 14 2017, 11:29 AM

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post Aug 15 2017, 05:53 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Aug 14 2017, 01:31 AM)
I think you should get the same bike for your fiance as well. The XDS FA16 is a good choice. The picture here, is a retired teacher who has been riding hers since 2013 and she's still riding it. Only problem is after you improve on your stamina and skills, the gear ratio is not high enough when you want to go faster. Reason is, on 7 speeds, the smallest cog on the rear is 14 teeths and when ride fast, you will be free wheeling. It's good enough for commuting though. The one in the picture has been modified by me to 8 speed with 11/32T cassette at the rear for better long distance riding.

The folded size is small enough to actually fit into the IKEA Dimpa bag as you can see in the pictures. The Bromptons also is about the size but the Bromptons' wheel are an inch bigger in diameter.
Good advice sifu. Dont be too cheap and end up with something you dont enjoy riding, cant sell. End up being more expensive anyway. Go test some mid range bikes then some cheap ones. If you cant tell the difference, you buy the cheap ones, lol
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post Aug 15 2017, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Aug 14 2017, 01:31 AM)
I think you should get the same bike for your fiance as well. The XDS FA16 is a good choice. The picture here, is a retired teacher who has been riding hers since 2013 and she's still riding it. Only problem is after you improve on your stamina and skills, the gear ratio is not high enough when you want to go faster. Reason is, on 7 speeds, the smallest cog on the rear is 14 teeths and when ride fast, you will be free wheeling. It's good enough for commuting though. The one in the picture has been modified by me to 8 speed with 11/32T cassette at the rear for better long distance riding.

The folded size is small enough to actually fit into the IKEA Dimpa bag as you can see in the pictures. The Bromptons also is about the size but the Bromptons' wheel are an inch bigger in diameter.

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Nice compact bike. Sifu etigge, just wanna ask, i remember i read somewhere that 7 speed wheelset is hard to mod to 8 speed, is that same in the case above? or just take out the 7 speed cassette and change with a 8 speed one?
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post Aug 15 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(tiewgine8039 @ Aug 15 2017, 09:09 AM)
Nice compact bike. Sifu etigge, just wanna ask, i remember i read somewhere that 7 speed wheelset is hard to mod to 8 speed, is that same in the case above? or just take out the 7 speed cassette and change with a 8 speed one?
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Usually, the easiest way and more practical way is to change just the hubs or wheelset (the whole works, rims , spokes and hubs). If I remember, the FA16 uses 100mm fronts hubs and 135mm rear hubs which are standard to most mountain bikes or better still road bike hubs. There are many in BBS like this ,


http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/411920/hubs...smooth-like-new or this

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/212907/mtb-...0s-free-courier

Although 32 holes, the XDS FA16 uses 28 holes but experienced wheel lacing fellas can skip 4 holes using your original rims.

Another alternative is to hunt for 8 speed free wheel cogs but getting one with 11 teeth smallest cog is hard but not impossible. Just need to hunt for it. If you can read mandarin, you can trawl through Taobao. Lazada also have 8 speed freewheel cogs but the smallest starts from 13 teeth.

Epoch makes most of the ones that starts from 11 teeth. Here's the link,
http://static.jensonusa.com/images/Default.../5/CS246B01.jpg

With this, you just remove the old 7 speed one and replace with the 8 speed ones on the same hub. As mentioned, in the website, you need a special remover which most local bike store don't have rclxub.gif . I have to modify mine to be able to remove it. I grinded my tool thinner using a grinder. rclxub.gif

PS/ Don't forget you need to change to 8 speed shifter as well smile.gif The RD should be able to handle it.

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KenC
post Aug 15 2017, 10:39 PM

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Not difficult, just that there are so many choices in modding… and some may cost more than others.
I used the 3rd method. 11-34t epoch c/w cheap shimano ef-51 briefters.
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post Aug 15 2017, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Aug 15 2017, 05:53 AM)
Good advice sifu. Dont be too cheap and end up with something you dont enjoy riding, cant sell. End up being more expensive anyway. Go test some mid range bikes then some cheap ones. If you cant tell the difference, you buy the cheap ones, lol
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But if after 1 ride and found cycling is stupid… cheap bike and expensive bike are all junk bike... Yes, this happens most of the time.
Throw away a 500buck bike, you loose 500
Sell away an expensive bike you loose 500 too + the hassle of selling…

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post Aug 16 2017, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(KenC @ Aug 15 2017, 10:43 PM)
But if after 1 ride and found cycling is stupid… cheap bike and expensive bike are all junk bike... Yes, this happens most of the time.
Throw away a 500buck bike, you loose 500
Sell away an expensive bike you loose 500 too + the hassle of selling…
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post Aug 16 2017, 04:00 PM

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post Aug 16 2017, 05:01 PM

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post Aug 16 2017, 05:30 PM

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i want to buy 16" bike...
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post Aug 16 2017, 05:44 PM

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post Aug 16 2017, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(gck @ Aug 16 2017, 05:44 PM)
Same as the one I assembled last time. In 2014, the prices of the components were more expensive but now cry.gif with our currency , back to the same square even if they are cheaper now in China. For 16 inch bikes, if you really wanna join rides, you really need the 11 teeth cogs at the rear. This rides effortlessly. It was just 9 kg + only after folded as the owner wanted it light because she has back pains.

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Folded size compared to the Dahon Dash.

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post Aug 16 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(gck @ Aug 16 2017, 05:44 PM)
What you want to do with it? You wanna ride of keep in your car boot?
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post Aug 17 2017, 09:32 AM

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just curious... what the cyclist weight limit for 16 inch foldies like those above?
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QUOTE(oxygen_ @ Aug 17 2017, 09:32 AM)
just curious... what the cyclist weight limit for 16 inch foldies like those above?
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my friend tested before my bike around 110kg. no spoke broken as my current setup wheelset is 20/28. my 2nd wheelset is 16/21, that one very scare to use in rough road.

as for frame no problem at all. never try light offroad (mine are kojak slick tyre without thread), but on the road it works like charm 👍 on a light trail and crusher run road i tested with no problemo.. 😎
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my friend fnhon gust (fgc1609) 349 with sram dual drive setup

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