Yes they can be fitted into the rear passenger seat but WHY ? It's foldable anyway, isn't that the purpose of a foldie?  Also you need to take precaution as the lubricant from the chain will stain your seats. Normally they will push the front passenger seat as far as possible to the front and load the bike from the rear driver side door. They even fit in a road bike this way, off course with the front wheel taken out. I can fit 2 mountain bikes into the rear passenger seat with all wheels taken off. 

good morning everyone!! The reason why i fall in love with folding is coz of this. But still need to use carrier if wanna bring mtb anywhere..





Gemok , Medium , Slim

foldie!! btw im using viva so u can see how much convenience foldie

not so sure coz never try bos but ask u ask maybe will try later..

my java 451 minivelo fit in my persona back seat with the wheels on

if the new mirage, i think it fit (no guarantee  ). fit but not easy though. maybe it has to be place more vertical compare to mine, bcause i think persona is wider but mirage is taller. better go to the shop & try first. btw, mine drop bar which i guess use more space.

8am until 4pm. many stops coz the weather is 37°c

feel like a toasted bun!hahahaha

Java is one brand that uses bike specs to promote their bikes. So, my guess is to get their best specs that you can afford. We as consumer can never get OEM components as the manufacturers can. Drawback is, for us, we know what the good components are and usually good components are those popular ones and Shimano or SRAM never sells them cheaply either unless they are the older models and they are trying to clear them, not to say they are not good. You just need to find out what's good and what's not so good.

I ususally like to start from the core. The frame ! From then on I start to assemble what components I like. USually the outlay is higher but it's cheaper in the end compared to getting one with the same specs from the branded manufacturer. Anyway, most bikers are not that well versed in the specifics of biking in the early stages so they are not as critical. If you are serious rider, you will find out later, there's no short cut either unless you are those rich wallet fellas who wants the best but under utilise the capability of the components. Happens a lot in mountain biking.

I would suggest using roadbike components on folding bikes.

There is a frame made by Litepro and named Crius. Also there's a model made exactly like the Tern Verge. The importer brought in 3 units and today I met the guy in Ipoh and he said, it took him ages to sell the bikes. Funnily, this brand sells like hotcakes in Singapore and Thailand. If you talk to Jimmy of Kimbell Jaya Bikes, he can order the frame and maybe a complete bike with 9 speed. Don't know exactly the cost but from what I heard from the importer, the whole 18 speed bike is sub 10 kgs. Maybe keep this in mind as an option. In regards to whether it can be within 1750 for 18 speed, you can talk to Jimmy and check it out.

Also Crius also has a frame that looks like Dahon Speed which should be cheaper than the Verge version.

If I would have known more when I started on folding bike, I would have just save a couple hundred more to like rm2500, and get a dahon 10 speed or 18 speed..like the MU model..and I am pretty sure it will be a better bike then the javas

Dahon Dash used to be a popular and a good in between folding bike but our models here are getting ridiculous!    First they came our with disc brakes then reverted back to V-brakes and added a funny looking rear carrier and even worse, the importer here brought in just the 'S' size and many riders looks funny riding the small bike. Anyway it is a good bike, me being one of the former user of it but the earlier model. It folds bigger though. The MU is also a good proven bike, the dolphin shaped frame which is copied by most brands nowadays. Started off as the 16 inch Dahon Curve then to the MU 20 incher and now comes with better specs and paired with 451 wheelsets.

Now is the time to go check out Kimbell Jaya as they are having warehouse sale.

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anyway,
happy deepavali, happy diwali and happy holidays to all malaysian!

Hey Guys, I am new to folding bike and also aiming to buy which is under < 2k .

There are several brands I am looking at like JAVA, dahon and TERN, but obviously tern is slightly over my budget. I was comparing JAVA vs dahon, it seems JAVA have better spec like 18/16 speeds , dahon 7/8 speeds, JAVA disc break, dahon rim brake, etc.

Also hardly can see review for JAVA folding bike, but the design is really cool.

Can share your idea based on past experiences ? Thanks guys

to complete like this takes me nearly 2 years to finalized it.if i do it all at one time, for sure my poket will "koyak"
if u can spent more, i would recomend java ira. 18speed sora with prowheel hollowtech crank. some more with 451 wheelset, caliper brakes and half carbon fork for me that was a good performance bike!

Still available at Kimbell Jaya at the same discount. I have just got one and there's still another 2 left , I think. Even here in Taiping , there's one black/green and can get at  the discounted price.

YUP !  I also missed the deal, today morning i only saw it selling at RM 2240 but too late

So you also getting a JAVA bike ?