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YerinPark
post Nov 4 2017, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 4 2017, 01:04 PM)
The phone and f2f interview for ey are so stressful and invasive.

It is not easy to finish all acca papers, as well as getting a 2nd upper in degree, i failed just once in acca and twice in degree.

Yet all their questions revolving around why I failed.
How am I supposed to know? The important thing is that I made it at the end despite the rocky path of my studying life.

It is like asking "why you're a boy?", I just answered vaguely saying I have personal problems that time, and they want me to disclose. They also want me to disclose what offers do I have currently, dig very deep.

At the end got rejected, more or less I know the outcome already as I don't really know how to answer the interview questions. Just wondering don't they need people for the peak period? Have to be really picky to choose?
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Just because they need people, doesn't mean they will simply hire. FYI, they have TONS of other applicants and I just saw November's new intake (Wednestday 1st Nov) and ofc they will choose someone who exhibits positivity vs someone who ( I don't want to be judge but it comes off as being very vague, avoiding questions, etc)

If you couldn't read between the lines and understand that the interviewers wanted to see and understand more on how you overcame your failures/difficulties, then you should really understand how behavioral interviews work, as I recall most fresh grad interviews are behavior based vs experienced hire interviews which involves more knowledge/technical.

I guess its a good learning experience in terms of interviews, the more interviews you go for, the more familiar and comfortable you can get.

You can be really smart but have negative attitude, fact is you won't be hired unless you have a really niche skill which is urgently needed and you can have mediocre results but good attitude/good co-curricular activities, you can find yourself receiving the offer letter.

Just my thoughts, feel free to correct me if the interviewer was rude/etc and or my understanding was wrong. thumbup.gif
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post Nov 4 2017, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(YerinPark @ Nov 4 2017, 09:47 PM)
Just because they need people, doesn't mean they will simply hire. FYI, they have TONS of other applicants and I just saw November's new intake (Wednestday 1st Nov) and ofc they will choose someone who exhibits positivity vs someone who ( I don't want to be judge but it comes off as being very vague, avoiding questions, etc)

If you couldn't read between the lines and understand that the interviewers wanted to see and understand more on how you overcame your failures/difficulties, then you should really understand how behavioral interviews work, as I recall most fresh grad interviews are behavior based vs experienced hire interviews which involves more knowledge/technical.

I guess its a good learning experience in terms of interviews, the more interviews you go for, the more familiar and comfortable you can get.

You can be really smart but have negative attitude, fact is you won't be hired unless you have a really niche skill which is urgently needed and you can have mediocre results but good attitude/good co-curricular activities, you can find yourself receiving the offer letter.

Just my thoughts, feel free to correct me if the interviewer was rude/etc and or my understanding was wrong.  thumbup.gif
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For a second thought i could've answered how i overcome the failures, it was actually a good interview question, just that at that time i was feeling offended being asked directly like that. Cuz i know it is not easy to complete those qualifications and yet u focus on my failures.
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post Nov 4 2017, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(YerinPark @ Nov 4 2017, 09:47 PM)
Just because they need people, doesn't mean they will simply hire. FYI, they have TONS of other applicants and I just saw November's new intake (Wednestday 1st Nov) and ofc they will choose someone who exhibits positivity vs someone who ( I don't want to be judge but it comes off as being very vague, avoiding questions, etc)

If you couldn't read between the lines and understand that the interviewers wanted to see and understand more on how you overcame your failures/difficulties, then you should really understand how behavioral interviews work, as I recall most fresh grad interviews are behavior based vs experienced hire interviews which involves more knowledge/technical.

I guess its a good learning experience in terms of interviews, the more interviews you go for, the more familiar and comfortable you can get.

You can be really smart but have negative attitude, fact is you won't be hired unless you have a really niche skill which is urgently needed and you can have mediocre results but good attitude/good co-curricular activities, you can find yourself receiving the offer letter.

Just my thoughts, feel free to correct me if the interviewer was rude/etc and or my understanding was wrong.  thumbup.gif
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very nice and i agree much with your statement.
My EX manager love to tell us about the interview he conducted with new fresh graduate.
He say most of the time, the graduate keep emphasized that he/she had finished ACCA, get 1st class honours, oversea graduated... blablabla, which is keep focusing the academic qualification.
Then my manager questioned them: I give you 5 minutes now. Tell me what you have when I take away your accounting qualification. The graduate then will have a hard time to answer.

Last time when i still serve for big4, there was a senior associate. He doesn't have a good degree, ACCA not yet completed, and yet the manager and partner like him very much due to his passion and willingness to try and he get the highest bonus pay compare to other senior associate. He left big4 after serving for years and enter commercial line as manager due to personal reason.

Attitude DETERMINE.

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post Nov 4 2017, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 4 2017, 10:20 PM)
For a second thought i could've answered how i overcome the failures, it was actually a good interview question, just that at that time i was feeling offended being asked directly like that. Cuz i know it is not easy to complete those qualifications and yet u focus on my failures.
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My advise, dont too focus on academic qualification. Nowadays ACCA affiliates are all over the place. Dont tell us you have a hard time completing ACCA. This is nonsense. You say you got problem and that's why you fail, this also give a reason for big4 to reject you because of the same problem. The market outside still got a lot of people waiting for the list, 99% of the ACCA student in Sunway university achieved 100% pass rate for all paper. If big4 really concern about the qualification, outsiders don't even stand a chance.
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post Nov 6 2017, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 4 2017, 01:04 PM)
The phone and f2f interview for ey are so stressful and invasive.

It is not easy to finish all acca papers, as well as getting a 2nd upper in degree, i failed just once in acca and twice in degree.

Yet all their questions revolving around why I failed.
How am I supposed to know? The important thing is that I made it at the end despite the rocky path of my studying life.

It is like asking "why you're a boy?", I just answered vaguely saying I have personal problems that time, and they want me to disclose. They also want me to disclose what offers do I have currently, dig very deep.

At the end got rejected, more or less I know the outcome already as I don't really know how to answer the interview questions. Just wondering don't they need people for the peak period? Have to be really picky to choose?
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If you find the interview question invasive, wait till you meet your audit partner and client. I know a Big4 partner that has zero qualm of grilling a staff in front of everybody at high pitch with language that even Gordon Ramsay is proud of. You may also get that a lot from client who generally viewed auditors as annoyance in Malaysia.

Yes, I think it’s better for them to filter out candidates that don’t fit their culture. It’s not a playground. Yes, they need a lot of people during peak period but they are not obliged to hire anybody. The cost of recruiting the wrong candidate is greater than having insufficient staff. At least the manager can blame lack of resources over mistakes.

Finishing your education is their lowest and minimum expectation. They don’t need to hire top graduates for the work they do (although they wanted to but they will lose these candidates to investment banks or consulting firms). Sometimes failure is justifiable and with legitimate reasons. Some of the best people I work with are not a top scorer. It requires different traits to be a good staff and a good education background (which signifies learning capabilities) is just one of them.

Another example is how well you learn in a non-controlled environment? For example, how you respond during crisis, how you multi-task, how you prioritise key deliverables, how you deal with clients that are not cooperative, how you deal with your supervisor who has a different style …. You don’t learn any of this in textbook. The closest is through interview questions. If you can’t convince them in the interview, what makes you think they are confident to hand the projects to you?

Don’t worry; no one is immune to mistakes. I have made similar ones. The important thing is to learn and improve on it.

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post Nov 7 2017, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(snowflakesaway @ Oct 27 2017, 07:31 PM)
congrats! would you mind telling when did you apply? just want to see how long should i wait
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I applied through an employee referral on the 5th of October 2017. The HR team gave me a call the next day on the 6th to ask about myself. As I was driving, I asked her if she could give me a call on Monday (9th of October).

I then received an email to complete the online assessment two weeks later (24th of October 2017).

They then called me on the 3rd of November inviting me for a face to face interview at EY with the senior manager which was scheduled on Saturday (4th of November).

Hope this helps you! I’m now waiting if I would get accepted or not. So crossing fingers!
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post Nov 7 2017, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 4 2017, 01:04 PM)
The phone and f2f interview for ey are so stressful and invasive.

It is not easy to finish all acca papers, as well as getting a 2nd upper in degree, i failed just once in acca and twice in degree.

Yet all their questions revolving around why I failed.
How am I supposed to know? The important thing is that I made it at the end despite the rocky path of my studying life.

It is like asking "why you're a boy?", I just answered vaguely saying I have personal problems that time, and they want me to disclose. They also want me to disclose what offers do I have currently, dig very deep.

At the end got rejected, more or less I know the outcome already as I don't really know how to answer the interview questions. Just wondering don't they need people for the peak period? Have to be really picky to choose?
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Did you have your interview with one of the partners? I just had my interview at EY last saturday. Thank god it was not that stressful and there wasnt any technical questions asked. I felt like it was more of a chit chat session to get to know more about me and if I could really tahan working in audit. It lasted for more than an hour. I’m just really hoping that I’d get the job.

May I know when did you find out about the results after the interview? Like how long did you have to wait? Thank you!
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post Nov 7 2017, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 4 2017, 01:04 PM)
The phone and f2f interview for ey are so stressful and invasive.

It is not easy to finish all acca papers, as well as getting a 2nd upper in degree, i failed just once in acca and twice in degree.

Yet all their questions revolving around why I failed.
How am I supposed to know? The important thing is that I made it at the end despite the rocky path of my studying life.

It is like asking "why you're a boy?", I just answered vaguely saying I have personal problems that time, and they want me to disclose. They also want me to disclose what offers do I have currently, dig very deep.

At the end got rejected, more or less I know the outcome already as I don't really know how to answer the interview questions. Just wondering don't they need people for the peak period? Have to be really picky to choose?
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You know what's your problem? Your sense of entitlement. Actually you should already be prepared to answer on the failing papers part. Just like next time when you job hop, a sure question is - why do you want to leave? And the answer should never be vague or complaining about current company

For fresh grads, Big4 are spoilt for choice, you need them in your CV more than they need you. Sure, they hire lots of people, but that doesn't mean they have to hire you. You need to convince them that you are worth their while, and ACCA alone is not gonna be enough

Attitude wise, those that always work is - can do mindset, adaptable and drop that sense of entitlement please. No one owe you anything, not even your parents

QUOTE(Topace111 @ Nov 6 2017, 02:56 PM)
If you find the interview question invasive, wait till you meet your audit partner and client. I know a Big4 partner that has zero qualm of grilling a staff in front of everybody at high pitch with language that even Gordon Ramsay is proud of. You may also get that a lot from client who generally viewed auditors as annoyance in Malaysia.

Yes, I think it’s better for them to filter out candidates that don’t fit their culture. It’s not a playground. Yes, they need a lot of people during peak period but they are not obliged to hire anybody. The cost of recruiting the wrong candidate is greater than having insufficient staff. At least the manager can blame lack of resources over mistakes.

Finishing your education is their lowest and minimum expectation. They don’t need to hire top graduates for the work they do (although they wanted to but they will lose these candidates to investment banks or consulting firms). Sometimes failure is justifiable and with legitimate reasons. Some of the best people I work with are not a top scorer. It requires different traits to be a good staff and a good education background (which signifies learning capabilities) is just one of them.

Another example is how well you learn in a non-controlled environment? For example, how you respond during crisis, how you multi-task, how you prioritise key deliverables, how you deal with clients that are not cooperative, how you deal with your supervisor who has a different style …. You don’t learn any of this in textbook. The closest is through interview questions. If you can’t convince them in the interview, what makes you think they are confident to hand the projects to you?

Don’t worry; no one is immune to mistakes. I have made similar ones. The important thing is to learn and improve on it.
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So agree with this reply.
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post Nov 8 2017, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(sheyhere @ Nov 7 2017, 02:14 PM)
I applied through an employee referral on the 5th of October 2017. The HR team gave me a call the next day on the 6th to ask about myself. As I was driving, I asked her if she could give me a call on Monday (9th of October).

I then received an email to complete the online assessment two weeks later (24th of October 2017).

They then called me on the 3rd of November inviting me for a face to face interview at EY with the senior manager which was scheduled on Saturday (4th of November).

Hope this helps you! I’m now waiting if I would get accepted or not. So crossing fingers!
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ahh, i applied around that time too
guess i didn't make it then
and for some reason i can't even log in into ey's website to view my profile now blink.gif
all the best and hope you get accepted thumbsup.gif
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post Nov 8 2017, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 4 2017, 01:04 PM)
The phone and f2f interview for ey are so stressful and invasive.

It is not easy to finish all acca papers, as well as getting a 2nd upper in degree, i failed just once in acca and twice in degree.

Yet all their questions revolving around why I failed.
How am I supposed to know? The important thing is that I made it at the end despite the rocky path of my studying life.

It is like asking "why you're a boy?", I just answered vaguely saying I have personal problems that time, and they want me to disclose. They also want me to disclose what offers do I have currently, dig very deep.

At the end got rejected, more or less I know the outcome already as I don't really know how to answer the interview questions. Just wondering don't they need people for the peak period? Have to be really picky to choose?
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Dude I had the same problem with you, since i failed 1 subject in uni, i got the exact same questions EVERY TIME in the interviews , include the interview with EY recently. This is not a difficult questions tho, just said about the reason ( eg: didn't aware the gap between year 2 and year 3), solution ( change study method/ study hard) and result ( didn't fail again even in ACCA). You can said any reason but please don't blame the lecturer as it will make you sound immature.

The interviewer doesn't mean to challenge you or add add salt to your wound, they just want to know how you deal with your mistake and failure. Just take it easy
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QUOTE(sheyhere @ Nov 7 2017, 03:07 PM)
Did you have your interview with one of the partners? I just had my interview at EY last saturday. Thank god it was not that stressful and there wasnt any technical questions asked. I felt like it was more of a chit chat session to get to know more about me and if I could really tahan working in audit. It lasted for more than an hour. I’m just really hoping that I’d get the job.

May I know when did you find out about the results after the interview? Like how long did you have to wait? Thank you!
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I interview with EY at 28th Oct , and i get reply today. I think you will get reply within 2 week. Good Luck thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Nov 8 2017, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(XXXhelios @ Nov 8 2017, 12:14 PM)
I interview with EY at 28th Oct , and i get reply today. I think you will get reply within 2 week. Good Luck  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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I just received a call today too from EY. And I got accepted!! Hehe. When are you starting? And in what division? smile.gif
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QUOTE(snowflakesaway @ Nov 8 2017, 12:55 AM)
ahh, i applied around that time too
guess i didn't make it then
and for some reason i can't even log in into ey's website to view my profile now blink.gif
all the best and hope you get accepted  :thumbsup:
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Maybe you should give them a call? I waited for 2 weeks after the phone interview and then decided to give them a call. Shortly after, they sent me the link for an online assessment.

And thank you. Got a call today saying that I got accepted smile.gif
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QUOTE(sheyhere @ Nov 8 2017, 12:29 PM)
I just received a call today too from EY. And I got accepted!! Hehe. When are you starting? And in what division? smile.gif
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Congratz! I Start 4th dec and I apply for audit depart
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QUOTE(XXXhelios @ Nov 8 2017, 01:22 PM)
Congratz! I Start 4th dec and  I apply for audit depart
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I start on the 4th of Dec too! I’m in Audit as well hehe. So I guess I’ll see you then at EY biggrin.gif
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Hi!

Anyone had experience interview with Deloitte?

How long should I wait for the result?

Would they send us an email if we not selected?

Thank you.
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post Nov 10 2017, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Dozen @ Nov 8 2017, 04:44 PM)
Hi!

Anyone had experience interview with Deloitte?

How long should I wait for the result?

Would they send us an email if we not selected?

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i did an interview with them on 1st Nov, and they replied this week.

best bet is call them after 2 weeks, no harm asking!
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anyone joining dec 18 intake at deloitte? 😁
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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 4 2017, 01:04 PM)
The phone and f2f interview for ey are so stressful and invasive.

It is not easy to finish all acca papers, as well as getting a 2nd upper in degree, i failed just once in acca and twice in degree.

Yet all their questions revolving around why I failed.
How am I supposed to know? The important thing is that I made it at the end despite the rocky path of my studying life.

It is like asking "why you're a boy?", I just answered vaguely saying I have personal problems that time, and they want me to disclose. They also want me to disclose what offers do I have currently, dig very deep.

At the end got rejected, more or less I know the outcome already as I don't really know how to answer the interview questions. Just wondering don't they need people for the peak period? Have to be really picky to choose?
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That’s the problem with you new generations. Easily get upset on stuffs like this. You should consider yourself lucky that they gave u a chance to explain why u fail and how u overcome it. Instead of honestly telling what was the problem u faced and how did u overcome it, u blew ur chance.

A suprising thing was, u realised that you do not have a good results, but you weren’t expecting or prepared to answer questions about your results. How are the big4 gonna hire u if u cant show them u are prepared? There are alot of 1st class graduate applying for the job and they need to know WHY they must pick u.

Nowadays the audit managers dont really give a shit about whether you are 1st class or 2nd lower. What matter the most is we give, u deliver. You’ll be suprised how many of my so called 1st class juniors can’t even do a simple financial statements tie-outs.

For the record, PWC would have just stopped the conversation once they heard u failed a subject.



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QUOTE(bluetopaz @ Nov 11 2017, 03:38 PM)
That’s the problem with you new generations. Easily get upset on stuffs like this. You should consider yourself lucky that they gave u a chance to explain why u fail and how u overcome it. Instead of honestly telling what was the problem u faced and how did u overcome it, u blew ur chance.

A suprising thing was, u realised that you do not have a good results, but you weren’t expecting or prepared to answer questions about your results. How are the big4 gonna hire u if u cant show them u are prepared? There are alot of 1st class graduate applying for the job and they need to know WHY they must pick u.

Nowadays the audit managers dont really give a shit about whether you are 1st class or 2nd lower. What matter the most is we give, u deliver. You’ll be suprised how many of my so called 1st class juniors can’t even do a simple financial statements tie-outs.

For the record, PWC would have just stopped the conversation once they heard u failed a subject.
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i failed a subject. i still got the job in pwc.


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