EA form is from the company, you can't use it. I've given bank statements, income tax (acknowledgement receipt) and EPF letter. Out of all the documents I submitted, Engineer Australia only accepted the EPF letter.

If you plan to translate the BM EPF statement to English, you won't be able to do it at any EPF office (I've asked the officers). If you want language centers to do it, they can but they can't insert EPF logo. So, best solution I can suggest is request EPF to write the letter for you. I got the letter on the spot after pestering them at the EPF office for days.

Hope this helps.

We need all these documents: [bank statements, income tax (acknowledgement receipt) and EPF letter] for Engineer Australia? Is this to verify your employment, or for identification purposes.

I've just submitted and paid the hefty fee    only submitting the EA form, Salary slip, and reference letter from Company (If to verify work experience)

If not complete, sure assessment got delayed right 

Hi everyone, would greatly appreciate any guidance here - any chance of a practicing junior lawyer here in Malaysia getting a PR in Australia? Like which particular subclass visa should I concentrate/focus more on and what are the chances of getting one?

I did a bit of preliminary research myself before (it was a while ago so I have forgotten a lot about it), and I came across the legal executive/legal researcher pathway (under the CSOL). This would mean that I require the subclass 190 visa. I don't intend to practice over there either as a barrister or a solicitor (which it would seem to be 'easier' under the subclass 189 visa? Do correct me if I'm wrong) mainly because the difficulty of getting jobs as a barrister/solicitor (well that was what I've heard anyway); so hence my preference to secure a job as a legal researcher/executive as these jobs may relate to my working experiences here in Malaysia. And i note that the subclass 190 requires a nomination. Is this a viable choice? I've never studied in Australia before as well, so I do appreciate any helpful advices and opinions on my chances and if possible, the processes/procedures involved..

Also I did a bit of checking through the points system, may I know how do they calculate your years of working experiences? Do they consider the chambering period as part of your working experiences? Many thanks..

Thank you for the reply, much appreciated.. Yea, i plan to seek a migration agent as well but would appreciate any valuable info from the experienced here.. Can I know more about what you mean by not working as one of the occupations listed in the SOL? And there's a (bit of) difference between SOL (189) and CSOL (190), no? Appreciate the feedback!
Thanks for the reply.. I graduated with a UK degree (honours) and did my bar in the UK. Started chambering at around 2012 back here and another one in 2013 (when the former had been completed). I did two chamberings due to the 3 separate legal jurisdictions in msia, i.e. malaya (peninsular), sarawak and sabah..  In a way i 'wasted' a bit of time just to get called to different jurisdictions.. So I officially started work as a junior lawyer only in 2014.. Hence my inquiry on how does the Australian migration agency calculate my working experience, as I hope they might look at my chambering period as part of my working experience (long shot i know, but would just appreciate a bit more clarification on this in this forum if possible). And must the working experience be a continuous one?

Haha.. I've always hoped to migrate someday, and to countries like Australia/Canada (The reasons should be pretty clear nowadays).. And was looking at work migration if possible.. instead of business migration (maybe the last option).. which would require an awful lot of capital these days.. plus I'm still considered young (25> yo) so why not try the work migration instead.. Also i've heard from friends (within the legal fraternity) who graduated in Australia about the possibility of working as a practicing barrister/solicitor in Australia.. Many came back after finishing their degree/bar there so I'm not very optimistic about the job prospects as a practicing lawyer there.. Some were apparently even laid off afterwards after securing a job as a lawyer.. Hence my options to work as legal researcher/executive/paralegal or whatever you name it, as it's the most relevant job that i can relate to with my working experiences.. Who knows, I might even get my license there in the future if there's any positive prospects for it while working as a legal clerk..

And just a general question, would you advise going for the 189 or 190 first? and are there any other alternative to this two subclass visas? btw i mentioned honours in my degree because from the points system check it seems there's a bit a difference between just a general degree and an honours degree.. Am I understanding it correctly? Or does that only apply to an Australian honours degree? Appreciate the feedback..

Those who intend to work illegally:

http://newsroom.border.gov.au/channels/NEW...ry-to-australia

TL;DR version: Do not.

Though there are still a lot of illegal restaurants out there.

Thank you for the reply, much appreciated.. Yea, i plan to seek a migration agent as well but would appreciate any valuable info from the experienced here.. Can I know more about what you mean by not working as one of the occupations listed in the SOL? And there's a (bit of) difference between SOL (189) and CSOL (190), no? Appreciate the feedback!
Thanks for the reply.. I graduated with a UK degree (honours) and did my bar in the UK. Started chambering at around 2012 back here and another one in 2013 (when the former had been completed). I did two chamberings due to the 3 separate legal jurisdictions in msia, i.e. malaya (peninsular), sarawak and sabah..  In a way i 'wasted' a bit of time just to get called to different jurisdictions.. So I officially started work as a junior lawyer only in 2014.. Hence my inquiry on how does the Australian migration agency calculate my working experience, as I hope they might look at my chambering period as part of my working experience (long shot i know, but would just appreciate a bit more clarification on this in this forum if possible). And must the working experience be a continuous one?

Haha.. I've always hoped to migrate someday, and to countries like Australia/Canada (The reasons should be pretty clear nowadays).. And was looking at work migration if possible.. instead of business migration (maybe the last option).. which would require an awful lot of capital these days.. plus I'm still considered young (25> yo) so why not try the work migration instead.. Also i've heard from friends (within the legal fraternity) who graduated in Australia about the possibility of working as a practicing barrister/solicitor in Australia.. Many came back after finishing their degree/bar there so I'm not very optimistic about the job prospects as a practicing lawyer there.. Some were apparently even laid off afterwards after securing a job as a lawyer.. Hence my options to work as legal researcher/executive/paralegal or whatever you name it, as it's the most relevant job that i can relate to with my working experiences.. Who knows, I might even get my license there in the future if there's any positive prospects for it while working as a legal clerk..

And just a general question, would you advise going for the 189 or 190 first? and are there any other alternative to this two subclass visas? btw i mentioned honours in my degree because from the points system check it seems there's a bit a difference between just a general degree and an honours degree.. Am I understanding it correctly? Or does that only apply to an Australian honours degree? Appreciate the feedback..

suggest that you consult an agent first as most people here are from different sectors thus might not in the best position to assist you

I personally have no idea which body is doing skill assessments for lawyers? is it VETASSESS? SLAA?

as long as you are assessed with an Australian equivalent degree, you get 15 points, regardless honours or not

and worst case if you are unable to claim points at all for work experience, how far away are you from the minimum migration points? there are a lot more visa subclasses and people usually go for 189/190 cos its accessible and you can DIY without depending on other parties

lawyer will have a hard time to find job in oz .... either you change your field or start a company as migration agent 

true, their law standard is different from here in Merehsia.

u can see lah, even wanmmdeebee problem, can putar putar the law. If in Oz, early early also die already because they are so strict on corruption.

I saw a lot of migrant lawyer turn into migration agent. Not easy job, but got good excuse to return to malaysia to live while enjoy your PR. Because as migration agent, you can give excuse to Aussie government, that you can stay in malaysia to do biz...

I think that is one of the exclusions from the 2 years every 5 years rule.

kenji1903 Actually i did a preliminary test here http://www.nationalvisas.com.au/assess/ind...nt_version=3.5.. Not sure if this website is reliable.. And apparently i scored enough points, i.e. 60 (assuming it's reliable) based on age (30), English ability (10), education qualification (15) and work experience outside of Oz (5). The only thing i'm skeptical of is my working experience, which would require at least 3 years to qualify for that 5 points. Hence my inquiries on the method of calculation for working experience by the Oz immigration/borders agency.. If you don't mind, can I know more about what are the other visa subclasses that you are referring to and what would your advice be based on my circumstance? either 189/190/others?

To share practical experience, after 3 months in Melb (from Sg), I still cannot adapt.
> Life here too relax, no career goal in life (Asians not easy to get promoted in my organization). 
> Everything here are expensive. Stay at home the cheapest but that's defeat the purpose of coming here.

Here are my everyday questions:
1. Should I waste my $10k (costs incurred for Aus PR application) and go back SG? Should I stay two years to extend another 5 yrs PR, by compromise my inner feeling now?
2. Resign within 3 months, reflect good on me?
3. I'm 27 this year. Too early to settle down in Aus?

I have no answer to the above. Those who has yet to come, think properly. Study here is not the same as work.

To share practical experience, after 3 months in Melb (from Sg), I still cannot adapt.
> Life here too relax, no career goal in life (Asians not easy to get promoted in my organization). 
> Everything here are expensive. Stay at home the cheapest but that's defeat the purpose of coming here.

Here are my everyday questions:
1. Should I waste my $10k (costs incurred for Aus PR application) and go back SG? Should I stay two years to extend another 5 yrs PR, by compromise my inner feeling now?
2. Resign within 3 months, reflect good on me?
3. I'm 27 this year. Too early to settle down in Aus?

I have no answer to the above. Those who has yet to come, think properly. Study here is not the same as work.

To share practical experience, after 3 months in Melb (from Sg), I still cannot adapt.
> Life here too relax, no career goal in life (Asians not easy to get promoted in my organization). 
> Everything here are expensive. Stay at home the cheapest but that's defeat the purpose of coming here.

Here are my everyday questions:
1. Should I waste my $10k (costs incurred for Aus PR application) and go back SG? Should I stay two years to extend another 5 yrs PR, by compromise my inner feeling now?
2. Resign within 3 months, reflect good on me?
3. I'm 27 this year. Too early to settle down in Aus?

I have no answer to the above. Those who has yet to come, think properly. Study here is not the same as work.

As long as you are earning in Australia, spending capacity although is higher than SG, your earning power should be higher as well. Unless the company you work with employs you at the minimum rate.

Are you sure "spending capacity" is higher than Singapore? SGD is about 1 to 1 with AUD. In my limited experience, taxes, food/groceries and day to day expenses tend to be slightly higher in Australia.

Yes it's because of higher earned income despite the taxes? Daily expenses are higher but median income is also way higher.

I reckon the take home pay will be about the same. The median income in Australia is higher but the tax rate is also higher.

How do you find Aus comparing with SG?

And why do you moved from SG to AUs?