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kenji1903
post Aug 2 2016, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(milky85 @ Aug 2 2016, 05:28 PM)
Contacted all the exbosses liao..asking them help me prepare recommendation letter and job description letter..all ask me write myself then let them sign..    -_________-|||
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can try HR also cos proof of employment
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post Aug 2 2016, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Aug 2 2016, 05:39 PM)
can try HR also cos proof of employment
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Found out nothing much need to do for subclass 190. Basically just skillselect and submit EOI. Will go Aus High Comm to make inquiries since just opposite.. laugh.gif
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post Aug 2 2016, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(milky85 @ Aug 2 2016, 05:44 PM)
Found out nothing much need to do for subclass 190. Basically just skillselect and submit EOI. Will go Aus High Comm to make inquiries since just opposite.. laugh.gif
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i think you need to submit application for state sponsorship, maybe some other sifus here can chip in
and Aussie High Comm, the phone is super difficult to get through and information wise they told me to refer to the website sweat.gif

never tried going in person though
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post Aug 2 2016, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Aug 2 2016, 05:49 PM)
i think you need to submit application for state sponsorship, maybe some other sifus here can chip in
and Aussie High Comm, the phone is super difficult to get through and information wise they told me to refer to the website sweat.gif

never tried going in person though
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any pros and cons i select 190 over 189? consultants straight tell me go for 190..i asked them but forgotten the reason..i can forget i supposed the answer is not making sense...aiyo so cincai 1 ar the high comm..will walk over also to give pressure..
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QUOTE(evieta @ Aug 2 2016, 04:27 PM)
I think everyone knows the right way of doing things. But not everyone have enough points or a skill on the sol to get working rights here. But if they have strong desire to move here and are determined and willing to take the risk.. I think they just need a little encouragement.
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I don't think it's about encouragement. It's either you have it or you don't. Fact is some people don't and there could be reasons why. There may be even alternatives but definitely not the illegal route; if you get caught you'll probably be blacklisted or something of the sort.

Like what Nemesis said, the reality here is really harsh. I've met Malaysians who couldn't pass the IELTS and hence they didn't meet the minimum language requirements. They were given chances to retake the test or try something else. Some can't spend the $ so they end their quest then and there.

The problem with Malaysians is a lot seem to think that the wrong/ illegal way is still okay. And some bring that kind of attitude over to Aus, where it never ends well.


Very annoying and sad really, for the rest of us who don't do things this way.
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post Aug 2 2016, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(milky85 @ Aug 2 2016, 05:57 PM)
any pros and cons i select 190 over 189? consultants straight tell me go for 190..i asked them but forgotten the reason..i can forget i supposed the answer is not making sense...aiyo so cincai 1 ar the high comm..will walk over also to give pressure..
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190 is usually for those who cannot meet the minimum points thus cos state sponsorship gives them additional 5 points
it requires you to stay in that state for 2 years
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Aug 2 2016, 06:10 PM)
190 is usually for those who cannot meet the minimum points thus cos state sponsorship gives them additional 5 points
it requires you to stay in that state for 2 years
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yea right...i think this is what they told...when you not enough points and get extra points but kena tie to the state..
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post Aug 2 2016, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Aug 2 2016, 07:00 PM)
I don't think it's about encouragement. It's either you have it or you don't. Fact is some people don't and there could be reasons why. There may be even alternatives but definitely not the illegal route; if you get caught you'll probably be blacklisted or something of the sort.

Like what Nemesis said, the reality here is really harsh. I've met Malaysians who couldn't pass the IELTS and hence they didn't meet the minimum language requirements. They were given chances to retake the test or try something else. Some can't spend the $ so they end their quest then and there.

The problem with Malaysians is a lot seem to think that the wrong/ illegal way is still okay. And some bring that kind of attitude over to Aus, where it never ends well.
Very annoying and sad really, for the rest of us who don't do things this way.
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I don't think there is a need to be annoyed by people who are just trying hard to get here. If you already have the PR ... Good on you. People who have made the decision to work here illegally would already know the risks. They wish to do so despite the risks. I would just wish them the best of luck.

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post Aug 2 2016, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jul 20 2016, 10:20 AM)
just talk whatever is relevant to the topic, there's no right or wrong answer... e.g.
examiner: hi, captivesim, where do you live?

instead of just answering, "subang jaya..."
try elaborating more like, "i live in subang jaya, have you been there before? the traffic there is horrendous"
something like that...
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post Aug 3 2016, 08:25 AM

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Interesting observation , my work place is where immigration is located. I use to see many malaysians in the foyer.

decided to ask one why they are here, interestingly they told me they have been here on tourist visa working at the fruit farms, but because visa expire and they still want to stay they go to DIPB and file for protection visa i.e refugee. what happens is DIPB will reject the initial application and you have the opportunity to seek solution at the courts which can take anywhere from 6 months to years . this gives them the opportunity to stay legally* note you still cant work but they all carry on working.
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post Aug 3 2016, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 1 2016, 11:32 AM)
Hey, how bout offer them $2000 to kawtim everything? lol rclxms.gif
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They are smart, if you insist on changing the professional fees to 2000, they will charge you with USD.

Hahaha! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(evieta @ Aug 2 2016, 06:21 PM)
I don't think there is a need to be annoyed by people who are just trying hard to get here. If you already have the PR ... Good on you. People who have made the decision to work here illegally would already know the risks.  They wish to do so despite the risks. I would just wish them the best of luck.
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Look, i did try to help them even i knew they're illegal. some of them interviewed in my company. it turn up both ways. if the company get caught, company will get slapped with $100,000 fine. dun play2 ar
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Hi everyone, would greatly appreciate any guidance here - any chance of a practicing junior lawyer here in Malaysia getting a PR in Australia? Like which particular subclass visa should I concentrate/focus more on and what are the chances of getting one?

I did a bit of preliminary research myself before (it was a while ago so I have forgotten a lot about it), and I came across the legal executive/legal researcher pathway (under the CSOL). This would mean that I require the subclass 190 visa. I don't intend to practice over there either as a barrister or a solicitor (which it would seem to be 'easier' under the subclass 189 visa? Do correct me if I'm wrong) mainly because the difficulty of getting jobs as a barrister/solicitor (well that was what I've heard anyway); so hence my preference to secure a job as a legal researcher/executive as these jobs may relate to my working experiences here in Malaysia. And i note that the subclass 190 requires a nomination. Is this a viable choice? I've never studied in Australia before as well, so I do appreciate any helpful advices and opinions on my chances and if possible, the processes/procedures involved..

Also I did a bit of checking through the points system, may I know how do they calculate your years of working experiences? Do they consider the chambering period as part of your working experiences? Many thanks..

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Hi all, i am currently pending with Engineer Australia's assessment and would like to seek help from all sifus here. I am applying for the Washington accord. Can i know what document I can submit for the following:

Documents issued by the related government agency or any other organisation not related to your employer, such as:
Social Security/Social Insurance Report
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Income Tax (Acknowledgment)/Payroll Tax report
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Superfund Contribution Statement
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Provident Fund Statement/Retirement contribution reports
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Work permit
NOTE: Company name must be stated on each document


I submitted EA form but was told to submit another which is not from the company, but i thought EA form is from the government?

Thanks in advance!
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post Aug 4 2016, 01:02 PM

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EA form is from the company, you can't use it. I've given bank statements, income tax (acknowledgement receipt) and EPF letter. Out of all the documents I submitted, Engineer Australia only accepted the EPF letter.

If you plan to translate the BM EPF statement to English, you won't be able to do it at any EPF office (I've asked the officers). If you want language centers to do it, they can but they can't insert EPF logo. So, best solution I can suggest is request EPF to write the letter for you. I got the letter on the spot after pestering them at the EPF office for days.

Hope this helps.

QUOTE(yeouyeou @ Aug 4 2016, 11:18 AM)
Hi all, i am currently pending with Engineer Australia's assessment and would like to seek help from all sifus here. I am applying for the Washington accord. Can i know what document I can submit for the following:

Documents issued by the related government agency or any other organisation not related to your employer, such as:
Social Security/Social Insurance Report
OR
Income Tax (Acknowledgment)/Payroll Tax report
OR
Superfund Contribution Statement
OR
Provident Fund Statement/Retirement contribution reports
OR
Work permit
NOTE: Company name must be stated on each document


I submitted EA form but was told to submit another which is not from the company, but i thought EA form is from the government?

Thanks in advance!
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post Aug 4 2016, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(tatty89 @ Aug 4 2016, 01:02 PM)
EA form is from the company, you can't use it. I've given bank statements, income tax (acknowledgement receipt) and EPF letter. Out of all the documents I submitted, Engineer Australia only accepted the EPF letter.

If you plan to translate the BM EPF statement to English, you won't be able to do it at any EPF office (I've asked the officers). If you want language centers to do it, they can but they can't insert EPF logo. So, best solution I can suggest is request EPF to write the letter for you. I got the letter on the spot after pestering them at the EPF office for days.

Hope this helps.
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Hi Tatty89, thanks for your reply. Meaning you got the EPF statement and translated version of statement on the spot? I tried asking from the EPF office but they said they don't provide English version. May I know which office you went to and maybe I can try my luck!
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QUOTE(yeouyeou @ Aug 4 2016, 01:09 PM)
Hi Tatty89, thanks for your reply. Meaning you got the EPF statement and translated version of statement on the spot? I tried asking from the EPF office but they said they don't provide English version. May I know which office you went to and maybe I can try my luck!
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EPF cannot give you translated version of statement cuz their official format is in BM. I went to the puchong branch to get the letter. They have a customer service counter hidden at one corner.
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QUOTE(tatty89 @ Aug 4 2016, 01:21 PM)
EPF cannot give you translated version of statement cuz their official format is in BM. I went to the puchong branch to get the letter. They have a customer service counter hidden at one corner.
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Thanks tatty89, i have PM you to ask some questions, dont wanna flood the threat with my questions. smile.gif
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post Aug 4 2016, 11:31 PM

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Hello.. Any kind soul willing to share some feedback / opinion with regards to my inqueries? (if any, that is) Would really appreciate it.. Thanks very much..
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QUOTE(timo1003 @ Aug 4 2016, 11:31 PM)
Hello.. Any kind soul willing to share some feedback / opinion with regards to my inqueries? (if any, that is) Would really appreciate it.. Thanks very much..
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You don't actually have work as your SOL if you get a 189/190.

As for that chambering bit, Not sure lah dude. Perhaps you can try getting in touch with a migration agent for an initial free consultation to see where you stand. They also give you a break down as to how your points are calculated.

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