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timo1003
post Aug 3 2016, 07:53 PM

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Hi everyone, would greatly appreciate any guidance here - any chance of a practicing junior lawyer here in Malaysia getting a PR in Australia? Like which particular subclass visa should I concentrate/focus more on and what are the chances of getting one?

I did a bit of preliminary research myself before (it was a while ago so I have forgotten a lot about it), and I came across the legal executive/legal researcher pathway (under the CSOL). This would mean that I require the subclass 190 visa. I don't intend to practice over there either as a barrister or a solicitor (which it would seem to be 'easier' under the subclass 189 visa? Do correct me if I'm wrong) mainly because the difficulty of getting jobs as a barrister/solicitor (well that was what I've heard anyway); so hence my preference to secure a job as a legal researcher/executive as these jobs may relate to my working experiences here in Malaysia. And i note that the subclass 190 requires a nomination. Is this a viable choice? I've never studied in Australia before as well, so I do appreciate any helpful advices and opinions on my chances and if possible, the processes/procedures involved..

Also I did a bit of checking through the points system, may I know how do they calculate your years of working experiences? Do they consider the chambering period as part of your working experiences? Many thanks..

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post Aug 4 2016, 11:31 PM

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Hello.. Any kind soul willing to share some feedback / opinion with regards to my inqueries? (if any, that is) Would really appreciate it.. Thanks very much..
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post Aug 5 2016, 03:07 PM

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post Aug 8 2016, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Aug 5 2016, 03:44 PM)
suggest that you consult an agent first as most people here are from different sectors thus might not in the best position to assist you

I personally have no idea which body is doing skill assessments for lawyers? is it VETASSESS? SLAA?

as long as you are assessed with an Australian equivalent degree, you get 15 points, regardless honours or not

and worst case if you are unable to claim points at all for work experience, how far away are you from the minimum migration points? there are a lot more visa subclasses and people usually go for 189/190 cos its accessible and you can DIY without depending on other parties
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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Aug 6 2016, 09:55 PM)
lawyer will have a hard time to find job in oz .... either you change your field or start a company as migration agentĀ  nod.gif
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Aug 8 2016, 09:09 AM)
true, their law standard is different from here in Merehsia.

u can see lah, even wanmmdeebee problem, can putar putar the law. If in Oz, early early also die already because they are so strict on corruption.

I saw a lot of migrant lawyer turn into migration agent. Not easy job, but got good excuse to return to malaysia to live while enjoy your PR. Because as migration agent, you can give excuse to Aussie government, that you can stay in malaysia to do biz...

I think that is one of the exclusions from the 2 years every 5 years rule.
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Really appreciate the feedback and replies guys (or girls).. Haha, yea i'm aware of the differences in enforcement of the law between the two countries.. Well the assessment for barrister/solicitor is under SLAA, while the assessment for legal executive/researcher/compliance officer ('Judicial and Other Legal Professionals') falls under VETASSESS. Yea that's the thing, i don't intend to sit for any exams to be a practicing lawyer/barrister/solicitor there, as I've got sufficient sharing (i think) about the reality of being able to secure work as one.. Hence my focus on the legal executive/researcher/compliance officer route (ie subclass 190 and under VETASSESS), which would require a nomination. What're the chances of getting a (state) nomination? And is there no other relevant job besides being a migration agent?

kenji1903 Actually i did a preliminary test here http://www.nationalvisas.com.au/assess/ind...nt_version=3.5.. Not sure if this website is reliable.. And apparently i scored enough points, i.e. 60 (assuming it's reliable) based on age (30), English ability (10), education qualification (15) and work experience outside of Oz (5). The only thing i'm skeptical of is my working experience, which would require at least 3 years to qualify for that 5 points. Hence my inquiries on the method of calculation for working experience by the Oz immigration/borders agency.. If you don't mind, can I know more about what are the other visa subclasses that you are referring to and what would your advice be based on my circumstance? either 189/190/others?

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post May 23 2017, 02:14 PM

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Sorry to butt in, but how about Pearsons, PTE Academic? Are they accepted for SKILLS migration visa? I was informed by an agent that it is apparently an 'easier' alternative to ielts. Not sure if it's true..

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post Jan 28 2018, 12:17 AM

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Hi guys, anyone here who can recommend a reliable agency to assist in the visa application?

I've come across the likes of Kitson Migration, Rayford, Ausasia, Global migrations in my research. Not very convinced yet. Would appreciate any personal experience or recommendations from experienced ones here. Thanks.
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post Jan 28 2018, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Jan 28 2018, 08:12 AM)
can try mine, Auslife Migration  cool2.gif
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Thanks. Sorry, saw the emoji, you're being serious right? If you don't mind me asking, when did you engage them? And which subclass visa did they apply for you?

So far i see GMS has some positive feedbacks. Any comments on that? Cause like many, I'm worried about agents over-promising things when in reality they're not probably going to succeed. I don't mind paying for their services but not at the expense of possible misrepresentation.
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post Jan 29 2018, 12:37 PM

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Wow, first of all, thank you guys for your responses. Really appreciate them.

QUOTE(DarReNz @ Jan 28 2018, 06:19 PM)
this was about 7-8 years ago, my subclass isn't relevant anymore as the rules keeps changing every year. why don't go just go for the free consultation and find out yourself ?
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I see. Thanks for the recommendation. Yes, i just sent them (Auslife) an email, for like to enquire more on my position as it seems it's not going to be a fairly 'easy' one. Just got an answer from Kitson Migration but after further research on my own I believe that the particular agents who I've dealt with are not well versed with my situation and may be leading me to a dead end with their suggestions.

QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jan 28 2018, 10:55 PM)
based on google review, GMS has the lowest. highest is Austral.

at least they take the effort to keep their work quality up.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I've dropped them (Austral) a free assessment enquiry. Do you have any particular agent to recommend?

QUOTE(selvenz @ Jan 29 2018, 06:42 AM)
avoid GMS,

Austral is pretty good but best is DIY
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Thanks ya! For my situation i don't think it's going to be one of those straight forward / 'common' applications hence my preference to engage the services of an experienced and possibly reliable agent sad.gif . Any person to recommend from Austral if i may ask?

QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 29 2018, 09:18 AM)
please bear in mind that migration agents just help you keep track of progress if you keep an eye on them
most of the required items are still on your own like IELTS, medical check up and police clearance

even if you have an agent, its best that you know what's the process... like someone i know got blamed by the agent for delaying the application because he couldn't get all 7s for his IELTS doh.gif
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Yes, thanks for the reminder and caution! I will have to understand what are the possible paths that the agent would actually take too, don't wish to be misled to a false dream. Right now i see myself having the most problem with the particular occupation to nominate and the probability of a positive outcome from the skills assessment authority. Hence the reliance on a reliable agent and not one just looking for a cash grab. If you have any agent to recommend, please do let me know thanks!

QUOTE(Rand @ Jan 29 2018, 09:20 AM)
If yours is a relatively straightforward 189 or 190, do it yourself. Cheaper and easier for you to directly follow up on updates.
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Thanks Rand. As above, I don't see mine as a straightforward case, hence the need to engage an agent. Looking to speak to several agents and see what are their suggestions for my situation. If you have any agent to recommend, please do let me know thanks!

 

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