What is the shop's name?

You price beat zheilwane's price.
But the below seller beat your liao @ RM766
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/aquaphor...s308333200.html

Oh, I know this... This seller, you pay to South Korea, it supposedly ships from Germany.... Though it says Crystal Eco, picture shows regular Crystal. I highly doubt if one orders it, he will receive anything or may receive something completely different, but one can try of course.

There are plenty of these "South Korea" sellers on Lazada who offer no return/no warranty/no cancellation products at either very low or very high prices.

P.S. my store's name on Lazada and Shopee FrescaTec. Lazada price is higher to cover their exorbitant fees...

Fair enough. The product description also intentionally spelled Cristall Eco Wasserfilter

want to ask if outside house filter use sand membrane or filter type?
inside house already got Espring. tq all

Can do both. Both have + and -, but in my personal opinion, + of filter is far outweighs plus of media.

1. cartridge filtration down to 1 micron (though recommended is 5, 1 is overkill a little). Media is 20 micron nominal at best, realistically it is 40 micron, so much better filtration from cartridge filter.
2. No weekly/bi-weekly backwash required for cartridge. Media requires backwash, wastes water.
3. Compact design of cartridge vs media
4. Can easily DIY change cartridge.
5. Can always take out and inspect cartridge and see what's happening.
6. Cartridge is washable, but unlike media you don't need to do it weekly. Maybe 1 or 2 times a year.
7. Both can last up to 2-3 years before require change of media/cartridge.

8. If you have a lot of iron in your water (usually not the case in Malaysia, but I don't know every single part of the country) then any cartridge-type filter will not last long and only media will work.
9. Media with auto-backwash is kind of set it and forget, while filter will need periodic monitoring of pressure difference gauge and cleaning if pressure drops too much (again, 1-2 times a year if no excessive iron).

Easy test, take large GLASS jar, fill it up with water, leave it for few days. How is the bottom of the jar? Is it all brownish color? If too much brown deposit, then you have a lot of iron. Where I live I have 0 brown deposit, but you need to test yours.

This post has been edited by hestati: Apr 23 2018, 10:54 PM

obviously thats the german translation ma. it should mean something logical right? cannot be some jumbled words

Well, there are many different packages for Aquaphor and price is low as well.
Authorized dealers in Malaysia are selling export version with 5 years warranty against leakage, 1 year warranty against clogging, after sales service, shop demo, exhibition and many other services provided by Authorized Distributor (not me, currently distributed by another company) here which cost $$ as well. If price difference is minimal, why take the risk.

Prices varies between dealers, so u can drop by other shops to negotiate on the price / packages and ask why buy from authorized sellers. May be you can find shops that offer lower prices as well

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Apr 25 2018, 10:38 AM

Aquaphor Crystal Eco is same in every country, only difference could be the language on the box/cartridges, but it's a very little trade-off for the saved money.

Same warranty is offered by every seller pretty much, because this is Aquaphor standard warranty for these systems regardless if it is sold by official dealer or not, comes from overseas or not.

"Authorised distributor" is a myth. Parallel import is legal in Malaysia, so anyone who brings anything in is authorised distributor as long as the product is not counterfeit.

And why go shop around and waste time if we already offer best price and planning to lower it in the future, once logistics side is optimised (most complicated is logistics/shipping from Russia, this is what makes Aquaphor so expensive in other markets, even those that are in close proximity and in free trade with Russia).

This post has been edited by hestati: Apr 25 2018, 12:49 PM

i think the low price is due to different cartridge used. The photo showed K3, K2 & K7. The first set i bought from Zheilwane is using K3, K7B & K7.
Recently i replace the cartridge which i bought from Hestati is also K3, K7B & K7. Google showed that K2 cartridge is cheaper the K7B.

If your mount a bracket to “lift” it will it easier to change / replace the filter

I not happy with my current Aquasana type water filter
Very slow water flow rate and the filter seems not so dirty after 1 year
I brought a water meter (not yet arrive) to test it later

I thinking installing a pre filter and a master filter before this filter
Looking for other solution if possible but the problem is that I still have replacement filter for 2 years

p.s. anyone want saw cut it open and compare?

This post has been edited by xproc: Apr 29 2018, 11:20 AM


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FD has a bracket, can be mounted on it, but what we do is actually slightly different. We leave extra long tubing. This way, when you need to service the system, you just take it out and put in your sink without disconnecting. So any water that leaks when maintenance is done, will go directly into sink without making any mess.


As for Aquasana, what are these cartridges? I tried to find it online, Aquasana bombards you with information, but doesn't tell you what is each cartridge. First one they say is sediment 20 micron, ok, but what is it made of? Is it melt blown cartridge?

One of the stages is clearly 0.5 micron modified carbon block, I'm supposing that would be last stage, but what is stage 2?

Anyway, I see 2 potential problems. If stage 1 and stage 2 are "depth" filtration, meaning they catch particles inside rather than on the surface (like a sponge vs a net), then they get blocked and there is no way to wash it.

Second issue could be that stage 3, being modified carbon block with 0.5 absolute is so heavily modified that it gets blocked in no time with non-sediment type of contaminants.

Solution to problem 1 would be a washable pre-filter, 5 micron or even 1 micron pleated poly, depending on what your stage 2 is. But then you may as well not use stage 1 of Aquasana (it's 20 micron).

This may solve second problem as well, and if not then you need a sub micron pre filter (UF, Disruptor type etc).

But overall, I never understood why Aquasana made these 1/2 filters... Clearly they get blocked 2 times faster than full size filters.

P.S. and why do they say on Lazada that system is made in USA when it is not, but that's not related to our discussion.

which type 1 micron pleated poly setup u recommend, the housing and the filter? when i research more i see the stage 1 its 20 micron then i

or should i buy a douton cermaic filter as prefilter...

This post has been edited by xproc: Apr 29 2018, 12:47 PM

No, ceramic is the worst idea as pre filter. Ceramic can be ok last stage, but as pre filter it will get blocked even faster than Aquasana.

For pre filter, you can get standard housing+fittings+cartridge. I will drop some pictures later today. We are planning to sell supply pre filter with every Aquaphor in the future, so I have some ideas.

Ok I try go find at ace hardware today since hardware shop no open

So if my stage 3 is 5 micron, should I add another ceramic doulton after this filter which is 0.9 micron since we have no idea what is the stage 2 filter is

No use for ceramic in your case. You have 0.5 micron already in your system. Ceramic filters... I would not recommend to anyone. Because they are "depth" filters, many funny things happen inside of them when bacteria start growing, for example, formation of various VOCs. There is a reason why ceramic filters were never certified in California, Doulton actually tried, but never managed to.

The major problem I see with Aquasana filters is no protection from bacteria, so if you want to add something after, you can add UF membrane, Nano membrane or Disruptor filter or any post-filter able to remove bacteria. Just FYI, I will very soon bring in-line filter that is able to do exactly that, remove bacteria, so if you want, you can consider it.

For pre-filter, chech how much is standard housing+fittings+tubing+cartridge at Ace Hardware. Please note that they do not sell pleated polyester as far as I know, only melt blown, need to change about once per 3-4 months. Meanwhile, I will check how much is my pre filter and update you.

Plan to install filter for outdoor. Very confusing. Sifu please help. I read carbon media shouldn’t be outside filter, is it true? May I know why? 5 layer = rm800 and 7 layer =1350. More layer mean better? Stainless steel is the best? Alkaline water better than drinking water?

Thank you in advance.

You're a bit confused))

For outside, there are 2 types of filter, media and cartridge. All that you need outdoor is quality sediment filter. Cartridge filter can be as low as 1 micron, realistically 5 is good enough, 20 can work too if your water is very dirty. Media filter in theory can be 20 micron, reality it is 40 micron and it requires backwashing.

I think I posted it somewhere in this thread, but can't find it. In my opinion, it makes 0 reason to go for media filter. No matter how many layers you have, no PoE filter can give you drinking water, it's pre-filtration at best. Media filter only makes sense when you have a known, specific problem with your water you want to address, say your water has extremely high sulfate content, then you may need to have sulfate media filter.

Can you filter with carbon block outside? Yes, why not. But it is not necessary. Also, you will need to make sure your water tank is in good condition, since if no chlorine enters it, there could be alien life appearing (algae etc). Your pressure will drop, etc.


By the way!
After monitoring Lazada, local websites etc, I want to say to everyone do not trust description you see on Lazada/Lelong/Shopee or other local online shops.

Most people will copy information from each other and there is so much false information floating around. If you check Lazada, 3M AP902 somehow has carbon in it (FALSE), made in USA (FALSE). Aquasana is marketed as made in USA (FALSE again). I do not know if these are lies told to sell systems or just because sellers are ignorant and they assume if it's US company, then it is made in USA. AP902 is even shown to remove chlorine, heavy metals and bacteria BY VIRTUALLY EVERY SELLER, when all it is a sediment filter....

I wish I had more time to debunk those myths. Hope 1 day I will start doing it with my website/video blog. I don't mean all products are bad, not at all, just don't say that the filter can do what even manufacturer says it cannot do, cmon! (sorry, a bit frustrated with all these "little inaccurate listings" as one seller on Lazada replied to me when I challenged him).

Thank you. 🙂

Any indoor filter cost less than rm500? I’m thinking to buy this Coway Genie SF Water Filtration System P-07IU. Anyone using this?

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/coway-ge...TvHTr5&search=1

Indoor can be any price, but it depends what you want it to filter. What is your goal? Pure and safe drinking water or just get rid of sand and chlorine smell and then boil that water?