Clean water will do. Definitely will boil the water. I do not need alkaline water.

Ok, best if you take a look at this table below. It is missing heavy metals (lead in particular). First 4 are able to remove lead, also some heavily modified carbon blocks can also remove lead.

Realistically, under 500RM you are looking at particulate+carbon block, everything else will be more expensive. So 2 Stage system, sediment+modified carbon block, fully NSF certified.

How urgent do you need it?



This post has been edited by hestati: May 3 2018, 09:37 PM

For this Coway, not recommended. This filter is sediment at best, but UF membrane cannot work alone, it needs a pre filter, it needs carbon block after. Otherwise it will get blocked quickly and the water will smell badly. And UF is not even washable. There are better options, much better in this price range.

hi,
are those RM100+ water purifier good? i just need safer water and boil it.

how about those 1L/20sen water we can get from the vending machine. are those better than if i install a purifier?

Wondering where is those amway seller? So quite already. Really wish they can debate with hestati.

maybe around 600-800 range, you can do it with 3m and aquaphor. if there is a will there is a way

aeiou228 correct or not?

This post has been edited by ar188: May 4 2018, 09:40 AM

Easy to install? I can't drill or put under sink. Need to be above sink on table. Thank you

Haha ! That's what I thought too Being waiting for the two of them to engage with hestati for a more intellectual debate but unfortunately they fizzled up in the thin air upon seeing hestati's posts.
C'mon Amway sellers, your RM4k espring really have no answer to hestati's RM1199 FD?

Yes sir. Can start off with 3M CTM-01 first or just buy the 3M AP2 or AP3 filter head from Taobao. Perhaps you want to share the link of the 3M AP2 filter head that you bought?

We did debate 20 pages ago. Amway, in fact, is not a bad system, if you put a pre filter it may even last. Amway could compete with Aquaphor and FD (good carbon block, UV, though class 1 only) if the price was around 1000RM. At current price it is 4x overpriced.

There will be soon Fresca Light and Fresca Mini to cover all the price ranges ))). And they will be all upgradable to higher model

BTW, owners of 3M, Culligan etc, how interested would you be in USA/Canada made, quality replacement cartridges for your systems? They are NOT 3M branded, but are direct replacement and are cheaper. Guaranteed to be on par or outperform originals. Just checking.

This post has been edited by hestati: May 4 2018, 12:54 PM

Hi Hestati,

Would like to know is the Aquaphor Crystal Eco really NSF certified ? As far i know no Aquaphor sellers actually dare to claim that their Crystal Eco was NSF certified except for the Aquaphor Reverse Osmosis. This topic regarding the crystal eco NSF certified or not was really a very hot topic before by different competitors in this thread.

Would you able to give some explanations to clear the air ?

Thanks.

confirm not certified by NSF as debated many times last time.

Kindly please don't simply increase the price as it only 3k something, the price is standard and is there even other countries or over the world, no any markup or earn buy seller. There are not point to keep continue debate with meaningless right. Everyone have their right and choice to choose which system they want, depends on their needs, can try to google on it how much NSF certificate they get and other than NSF still got WQA (Water Quality Association) certificate, how they implement the technical on it. As all also know NSF 42 is a very standard and basic NSF cert for a basic water filter system, if the water filter does not even have NSF 42 that means it can no need to consider. So if the water filter have NSF 42 does not means it is good enough to filter most of the contaminants. No point to debate any.

This post has been edited by Ch33r: May 4 2018, 02:04 PM

Yes, please bring in. I have both 3M and culligan filter heads. 3M's AP2 and AP3 filter heads are widely available in Taobao too.
Btw, without the brand name and NSF certification, how are you going to convince the consumers?

Official retail price RM4,505.00
Please be transparent with your official pricing and dont beat around the bush with RM3k + vague answer. What's the catch to get RM3k+ price ? Join member ? How much ?
https://www.amway.my/en/Categories/Home-Liv.../watertreatment

I was not a part of last time discussion, but I did investigate this question before bringing Aquaphor in and I was also talking to Aquaphor distributor in Russia.

We're talking about NSF 42 here, nothing else.

As a whole system "Crystal Eco" is not certified, meaning it will not have a certificate with it's name on it.

Individual components though, are certified. Aquaphor, just like any other manufacturer, doesn't make everything by themselves, they pretty much buy and assemble (though they do manufacture some of their components, mainly water cartridges).

So their UF membrane by Mitsubishi is NSF, their faucet by Likuan is NSF certified, all their fittings (and I suspect tubing) are by John Guest, so yes, also NSF certified. So yes, individual components are NSF certified, the whole system is also tested to NSF 42 standards, but there is no certificate with Crystal Eco name on it.


But in order to clear up the confusion once and for all, I must just say Aqauphor Crystal Eco system is meeting NSF 42 requirements and is made of NSF certified components, but I agree it is wrong to blatantly say that "Aquaphor Crystal Eco is NSF certified system". I will go over my listings and double check if I somewhere said "NSF certified system"

I guess everyone's question is how do you justify made in China modified carbon block + UV to cost 4000RM and why not include a pre-filter at least, so that the system doesn't get premature blocks? It's a heavily modified carbon block and class B UV, 500RM with healthy profits, 1200RM because you have this MLM type and a brand name, but why 4k?

You mean for the 3M and Cuno etc replacements? They are NSF certified.

On Taobao, are these original 3M heads? Wondering how much is the price... 3M also sets crazy mark up for Malaysia, time to parallel import it

Nevermind, found them. Hmmm, I have a plan . I wish I could find same for Aquaphor and not from Russia. I want to bring Aquaphor to 800-900 mark.

P.S. sorry for creating 3 posts and not replying in one, but as soon as I reply to 1, saw another one appearing just before.

This post has been edited by hestati: May 4 2018, 03:45 PM

No one will go for retail price if there is cheaper member price, same theory to all, today you apply every member card from no matter what shopping mall or what shop, you sure will get rewards of their membership this is for sure. All are very clear and transparent.

If you google it, its not only a carbon block and the UV light patent, it get other patented technique, it also contains the intelligent function which use the smart chip to build it for the intelligent monitoring system. As all also know there are not cheap to get a patented, the value is there. It not only get NSF42, but also get NSF53 AND NSF55, and also been awarded the GOLD SEAL by WQA.
Just need to know every products have their value with their price, (here need to say again but no harsh feeling) just like Iphone compare to other phone or Mercedes or BMW compare to other car, it just an example for the differences. The technology or the patent the products have also are different so impossible both also have the same price right. At the end all also depends on the comsumer choices, based on their budget and needs, to choose the right and the products they want, no right or wrong. You can just post your offer, if consumer interested, they will sure contact you, no point to keep debate here with meaningless.

This post has been edited by Ch33r: May 4 2018, 04:30 PM