I think your are right, my bad, I apologize for my reply . I will delete my post.

yeah no worries. i was hoping your idea works, good way to only buy their filter and use without paying full set .

Found 3M easy complete filter head though.
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r...s=1&abbucket=10

nice. thx
how much is the head and filter price in MY?

This one cheaper, 140RMB
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....ucket=10#detail

Full set I think is around RM800-RM900 , cartridge is about RM300+

wah.. thx. will check the 3m systems again. for same brand, why need to buy from local dealer if price diff is so much?

Type 3M C complete in 11street product search, you can get cheapest RM274.55 for the cartridge.
As for the filter head, buy it on 11.11, got first kg free shipping to Malaysia.
Total cost around RM370.

thx

Hi,

This is my 3rd year straight using Aquaphor. I'm glad that I've made the right move by switching to Aquaphor.

I'm not trying to promote Aquaphor product here but I must say that "zheilwane" knows his shXt.

as promised here is the reply from AQUAPHOR HQ on the endurance labtest of 8000L capacity. PDF file is original scanned copy in RUSSIAN, doc file is translated to english by google
https://www.sendspace.com/file/mssyhg



As per report in russian and translated version to english by google

THe endurance test was done by Institute of Toxicology FMBA of Russia (Accreditation certificate NoROSS RU.0001.51472b )
The tests were carried out in accordance with "GOST R 51871-2002"

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Nov 9 2017, 10:51 AM

Hi Bro, can pm me the price for aquaphor crystal Eco and aquaphor crystal solo? I am staying in newly build condo and will be 2 to 3 person in the house. Please provide your recommendation as well. Thanks

http://www.nsf.org/regulatory/regulator-nsf-certification

For some who don't understand why is hard to get NSF, part of the reason are due to the regulation, which required yearly retesting, and plant audit.

Hence when buying water filter with NSF certification, get their latest certification from the manufacture, don't only see got cert is done deal. If the certification are few years ago request for latest.

Does NSF randomly obtain the filter from retailer when conducting tests?

With all the certifications come to nothing if the manufacturer cut corners during mass production. What they sent for certification can be different from what they had produced for the mass.

Read about scandal at Kobe Steel and VW dieselgate?

You need to go ask NSF, and 3M don't ask me. If you feel cheated please express your dissatisfaction to 3M, they also have facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/3M/

Or perhaps you can ask the other water filter company why never take NSF certificate if you think is not hard.

This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 9 2017, 06:43 PM

Choosing a product certified by NSF lets you know the company complies with strict standards and procedures imposed by NSF. From extensive product testing and material analyses to unannounced plant inspections, every aspect of a product's development is thoroughly evaluated before it can earn our certification.

Most importantly, NSF certification is not a one-time event, but involves regular on-site inspections of manufacturing facilities and regular re-testing of products to ensure that they continue to meet the same high standards required to maintain certification over time. If for any reason a product fails to meet one or more certification criteria, NSF will take enforcement actions to protect you, including product recall, public notification or de-certification.

Products that earn NSF certification are said to be “NSF certified” or “NSF listed” and display the applicable NSF certification mark to show that they have been tested by one of today’s most respected independent product testing organizations.

http://www.nsf.org/consumer-resources/what...f-certification

as explained getting it is too costly and not feasible for Aquaphor which is European country not in USA. With LGA and huge demand in european countries, they do not need NSF.

So why other brands no LGA ? why no Sirim? why no WQA? impossible for you to register all unless demanded by projects or majority customers.

Facts/figures and also customer feedback from exsakai has already proven one point, with NSF does not make u a more superior filter. Even cheap and basic filters can pass NSF as stated. If if the requirements are high, basic filters shouldnt pass. The fact that even simple carbon block can pass, how can customers just rely on NSF. Every1 would just buy the cheapest filter with NSF, why manufacturers bother to produce better filters

Like an accountant already have CPA, do u think he wanna go take MIA & ACCA? NO unless required by company to get a high pay job.


FYI i have many customers switching from products with NSF to AQUAPHOR with LGA cert. Such as exsakai and Theused85, both commented they are happier after switching.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Nov 10 2017, 10:19 AM

thanks bro

Yes, NSF cert have many types like NSF/ANSI 42, 44, 53, 55 or etc. Customers need to differentiate that what type of NSF cert that the filter have, as NSF 42 is just a very basic cert which only need very low requirement then can get it. As customers not only need to see NSF but also other kind of certificate such as WQA or etc to differentiate that the quality of the filter. eSpring is prove that it is different from other brand as it not only get NSF certificate NSF/ANSI 42, 53, 55, 401,372 etc and also get the certificate from WQA as mention.

Actually no need NSF, can take EU standard because NSF have EU equivalent and having the EU equivalent certification is as good as NSF and some EU standard are even better like you say ACCA much better. Below is the EU Certification matching with NSF certification matching. Having that put comparison the same level.


https://www.nsf.org/newsroom_pdf/European_S...LDW10050309.pdf