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TSSentinel92
post May 10 2015, 02:15 AM, updated 11y ago

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Welcome! To the V9 Edition of the Recommendation Thread!! [cool.gif thumbup.gif

Thanks for the continous support from the contributors and forumers. It's been an honor working with the contributors helping others in their journey for the ultimate rig. We are here to help you build your pc from the ground up based on your requirements. notworthy.gif

Please do provide the following info while posting

[cool.gif[Budget]


[Purpose]

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences]

[Location]
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More updates to come from time to time.Contributors are mostly welcomed!!

Current contributor lists :

- Cable707
- Marfccy
- Pfftclock
- Clem1982
- rav3n82
- Chocobo7779
- Minecrafter
- Zgames
- Goldfries
- TristanX
- terence_nwb
- mod_po
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Pricelists

Low Yat Plaza:
C-Zone - http://www.compu-zone.com
Startec - http://www.startec.com.my
Cycom - http://www.cycom.com.my
Thundermatch (lots of branches outside KL) - http://www.thundermatch.com.my
Idealtech: http://idealtech.com.my/DOWNLOAD/IDEALTECH-PRICELIST.pdf
Viewnet: http://www.viewnet.com.my/downloads/viewne...y_pricelist.pdf
Jayacom: http://www.jayacom.com.my/pricelist/diy/D.I.Y%20hardware.pdf
Swisspac (Penang):here
Navotech (Johor/Melaka):here

For one-stop price-list - http://www.goldfries.com/pc-component-price-list-malaysia/

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LYN Vendors

For those who are unable to obtain a certain part (due to availability issues), here is a list of forumers which you can buy parts from:

1. Hikari85 ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/Hikari85 )
2. lingloong ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/lingloong )
3. Idealtech PC (Idealtech Facebook)
4. GBros ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/GBros )
5. CyntrixTech (no longer active, may require you to message their Facebook page instead: https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech )

Just drop them a personal message and tell them which parts do you need, and if the stocks are available, proceed to payment and they will mail the item to you. icon_idea.gif

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OTHER HELPFUL THREADS:

Extras: Power Supply Wattage Recommendation
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2620035


Extras: RMA DIRECTORY
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/861703

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Note : All rigs will be updated on a weekly basis and please forgive us for some delay update.Our contributor might be busy from time to time on their stuff.. notworthy.gif

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Updates:

- Terence and Mod has been added to the contributors list. Thank you for your contributions.
- There seems to be reports previously on the V7 of non thread related posts. Repeat offenders will be reported.
- Please do state clearly and follow the guidelines in the first post whenever asking for recommendations.
- Otherwise, thanks for reading, posting and joining in the discussions. Keep it short, friendly and be helpful.

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post May 10 2015, 09:30 AM

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[Purpose] movie, gaming (maybe gtaV?), AutoCAD

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none, will need a brand new desktop

[Monitor resolution] anything 20"+

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AutoCAD and microsoft excel those only

[Personal preferences] full desktop system plug and play

[Location] kl

I know the budget is tight, appreciate it you could help laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lancer193 @ May 10 2015, 09:30 AM)
[Budget] RM2k

[Purpose] movie, gaming (maybe gtaV?), AutoCAD

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none, will need a brand new desktop

[Monitor resolution] anything 20"+

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AutoCAD and microsoft excel those only

[Personal preferences] full desktop system plug and play

[Location] kl

I know the budget is tight, appreciate it you could help  laugh.gif
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Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Sapphire R7 250X 1GB GDDR5 - RM 344.50
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Samsung 20' S20C300FY monitor - RM 333.90

Total: RM 1977.72 (Price with cents is from Jayacom and the rest without cents is from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

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post May 10 2015, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 10 2015, 09:54 AM)
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Sapphire R7 250X 1GB GDDR5 - RM 344.50
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Samsung 20' S20C300FY monitor - RM 333.90

Total: RM 1977.72 (Price with cents is from Jayacom and the rest without cents is from Viewnet inclusive of GST)
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Isn't it better to get an NVidia GPU for AutoCAD,no? hmm.gif

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post May 10 2015, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 10 2015, 01:03 PM)
Isn't it better to get an NVidia GPU for AutoCAD,no? hmm.gif

goldfries,can you please pin this thread?Thanks!
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Nvidia GPUs have slight advantage over AMD in autocad but looks like he will use the rig for gaming like GTA V and the R7 250X will be a bit better than the same priced GT740.
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post May 10 2015, 01:41 PM

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Can i order parts online from jayacom?
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 10 2015, 01:41 PM)
Can i order parts online from jayacom?
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Their online store still not yet complete the set up, but you can give them a call and see if they are doing shipment.
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post May 10 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 10 2015, 01:31 PM)
Nvidia GPUs have slight advantage over AMD in autocad but looks like he will use the rig for gaming like GTA V and the R7 250X will be a bit better than the same priced GT740.
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yes! I would say most of the time I will just use it to watch movies..gaming and cad? not so much..

I'm currently using a 4 years old ASUS N55S laptop. Would you recommend to fork out the 2k to upgrade to a brand new desktop? or just invest in a giant hdmi monitor? any monitor recommendation with budget of 600?
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QUOTE(lancer193 @ May 10 2015, 02:40 PM)
yes! I would say most of the time I will just use it to watch movies..gaming and cad? not so much..

I'm currently using a 4 years old ASUS N55S laptop. Would you recommend to fork out the 2k to upgrade to a brand new desktop? or just invest in a giant hdmi monitor? any monitor recommendation with budget of 600?
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Definitely forking out 2K for a new PC would be great.

Monitor, you can go for 24-inch 1080p BenQ EW2440L at RM675.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 10 2015, 02:14 PM)
Their online store still not yet complete the set up, but you can give them a call and see if they are doing shipment.
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Thanks. What about viewnet? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 10 2015, 03:14 PM)
Thanks. What about viewnet? hmm.gif
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Viewnet also doesn't have online order service, if you want order online and ship the parts to your doorstep, you can try Idealtech, Techview, DotaTech, E-Tech etc.
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https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/34-phantom.html in love with that case, love the design, so futuristics. what do you think? drool.gif

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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 10 2015, 01:41 PM)
Can i order parts online from jayacom?
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if full rig i would suggest idealtech..their warranty sevice is good as well smile.gif
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 10 2015, 03:59 PM)
https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/34-phantom.html in love with that case, love the design, so futuristics. what do you think? drool.gif
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Nice case but if you like Phantom + H440 design, I suggest you to wait for Noctic 450, the baby of both cases brows.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 10 2015, 04:22 PM)
Nice case but if you like Phantom + H440 design, I suggest you to wait for Noctic 450, the baby of both cases  brows.gif
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You mean this? love the aggresive design brows.gif https://store.nzxt.com/products/noctis-450-black-red
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 10 2015, 04:23 PM)
You mean this? love the aggresive design brows.gif https://store.nzxt.com/products/noctis-450-black-red
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 10 2015, 04:35 PM)
Yes  thumbup.gif
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So what is the diffence between mid and full tower case anyway? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 10 2015, 04:36 PM)
So what is the diffence between mid and full tower case anyway? notworthy.gif
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Full tower can fit any component, have more expansion slot and better air ventilation but is much bigger compared to mid tower.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 10 2015, 04:45 PM)
Full tower can fit any component, have more expansion slot and better air ventilation but is much bigger compared to mid tower.
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not to mention also very heavy
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 10 2015, 04:45 PM)
Full tower can fit any component, have more expansion slot and better air ventilation but is much bigger compared to mid tower.
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Ahh i see, so which one you recommend? brows.gif i like both case

QUOTE(mod_po @ May 10 2015, 04:46 PM)
not to mention also very heavy
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not going to move it around haha brows.gif
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 10 2015, 05:01 PM)
Ahh i see, so which one you recommend? brows.gif i like both case
not going to move it around haha brows.gif
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Definitely the 450 if you are not tight in budget and not moving the case around blush.gif
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What is SSD mainly use for? To store games or load games faster? hmm.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 10 2015, 11:21 PM)
What is SSD mainly use for? To store games or load games faster? hmm.gif notworthy.gif
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Mainly use to store OS to fasten up boot time. Generally everything will be faster if you store them in SSD
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Hi every1, my fren need help building a new desktop which can last for few years.(gonna bring this 1 to middle east)

[Budget] RM3k

[Purpose] movie, gaming mostly dota 2.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none, will need a brand new desktop

[Monitor resolution] anything 20"+

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2.

[Personal preferences] full desktop system plug and play. No oc.

[Location] KL

Thank you

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 11 2015, 12:35 AM)
Mainly use to store OS to fasten up boot time. Generally everything will be faster if you store them in SSD
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I see. What about liquid and fan cooling? Which one better and reliable?
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 11 2015, 12:54 AM)
I see. What about liquid and fan cooling? Which one better and reliable?
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Generally liquid cooling will get you a better cooling result but it still have to depend on your case airflow. Some air coolers are really good such as Noctua NH-D15 which is able to fight with lower end AIO liquid cooler in the same price range.
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 11 2015, 01:35 AM)
My new rig will be name Project Zeus nod.gif
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hi guys, my current rig couldnt boot up. suspect to be mobo failure. My current setup is AMD Phenom ii X4 955, Asus crosshair iii formula, Corsair 2GBx2 & 4GBx2, Radeon HD5770, 500gb & 1TBx2 HDDs, Coolermaster Gladiator 600 casing, Coolermaster 650W PSU.

So i guess this is good time and excuse for me to jump to Intel bandwagon. Thinking of Intel i7 4790k and what z97 mobo you guys recommend with good features and soundcard to price ratio? what about SSD? thx. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sev66 @ May 11 2015, 12:40 AM)
Hi every1, my fren need help building a new desktop which can last for few years.(gonna bring this 1 to middle east)

[Budget] RM3k

[Purpose] movie, gaming mostly dota 2.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none, will need a brand new desktop

[Monitor resolution] anything 20"+

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2.

[Personal preferences] full desktop system plug and play. No oc.

[Location] KL

Thank you
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How about these?

Core i5-4460 - RM639
MSI B85M-E33 motherboard - RM219
Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM210
Palit GTX960 2GB DDR5 - RM819
WD Blue 1TB hard disk - RM183
Corsair VS 550W power supply - RM190
Thermaltake Versa H23 case - RM150
BenQ GW2255HM 21.5" monitor - RM405

RM2815 (RM2983.90 total with GST from Jayacom)

QUOTE(Gouki @ May 11 2015, 01:00 PM)
hi guys, my current rig couldnt boot up. suspect to be mobo failure. My current setup is AMD Phenom ii X4 955, Asus crosshair iii formula, Corsair 2GBx2 & 4GBx2, Radeon HD5770, 500gb & 1TBx2 HDDs, Coolermaster Gladiator 600 casing, Coolermaster 650W PSU.

So i guess this is good time and excuse for me to jump to Intel bandwagon. Thinking of Intel i7 4790k and what z97 mobo you guys recommend with good features and soundcard to price ratio? what about SSD? thx. smile.gif
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Try

Core i7-4790K - RM1199 (Jayacom)
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 motherboard - RM630 (Jayacom)

RM1829 (RM1938.74 with GST from Jayacom)

Liteon 900S 256GB - RM419 (C-Zone) - includes GST


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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 11 2015, 01:41 PM)
Try

Core i7-4790K - RM1199 (Jayacom)
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 motherboard - RM630 (Jayacom)

RM1829 (RM1938.74 with GST from Jayacom)

Liteon 900S 256GB - RM419 (C-Zone) - includes GST
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what about GPU if i consider to upgrade? what is replaceable to the aging hd5770? GTX750?

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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 11 2015, 05:07 PM)
what about GPU if i consider to upgrade? what is replaceable to the aging hd5770? GTX750?
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Hard to suggest with no budget. I already jumped GTX970 for 1080p six months ago.
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 11 2015, 05:07 PM)
what about GPU if i consider to upgrade? what is replaceable to the aging hd5770? GTX750?
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What is your budget?
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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 11 2015, 05:26 PM)
Hard to suggest with no budget. I already jumped GTX970 for 1080p six months ago.
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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 11 2015, 06:03 PM)
What is your budget?
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i guess, i will live with the HD5770 1st till i have the budget for gtx900 series.

anyway as for the gigabyte gaming5 mobo, that the best in that range of price? what about gaming7? what about asrock or msi?
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QUOTE(x14opigpig @ May 11 2015, 06:04 PM)
Which shop in lowyat plaza can get a steel series headset? Any recommendations?
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Viewnet, ALL IT, Sri Computer and etc are selling them.

QUOTE(Gouki @ May 11 2015, 06:29 PM)
i guess, i will live with the HD5770 1st till i have the budget for gtx900 series.

anyway as for the gigabyte gaming5 mobo, that the best in that range of price? what about gaming7? what about asrock or msi?
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You can also go for Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, also got 8 phase VRM and looks cool too, RM 663 thumbup.gif
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8GB RAM (corsair vengeance)
GPU ??
1T WD caviar blue
PSU ??

Can you please help by suggesting GPU and PSU for this build.
I'm thinking of EVGA 500W bronze and NVidia GTX 750

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QUOTE(ashwin89 @ May 11 2015, 11:20 PM)
i5-4460
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8GB RAM
GPU ??
1T WD caviar blue
PSU ??

Can you please help by suggesting GPU and PSU for this build.
I'm thinking of EVGA 500W bronze and NVidia GTX 750
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Budget bro?
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Budget bro?
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RM1700
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QUOTE(ashwin89 @ May 11 2015, 11:24 PM)
RM1700
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Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Leadtek GTX750 1GB GDDR5 OC - RM 419
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W PSU - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94

Total: RM 1718.32 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet)

Your budget is out of reach of the i5, an i5 + that overpriced Asus B85 mobo already cost you nearly 1k.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 11 2015, 07:34 PM)
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Leadtek GTX750 1GB GDDR5 OC - RM 419
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W PSU - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94

Total: RM 1718.32 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet)

Your budget is out of reach of the i5, an i5 + that overpriced Asus B85 mobo already cost you nearly 1k.
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This spec sheet is mainly for gaming. However, is this build also sufficient for audio programs (editing, recording, producing)?

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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 12 2015, 12:25 AM)
Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz
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This spec sheet is mainly for gaming. However, is this build also sufficient for audio programs (editing, recording, producing)?
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It will work, audio editing/recording/producing is not that resource hog compared to video rendering, if you only use for audio program, you can ditch the GPU and spend the money in getting a better PSU and processor.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 12:30 AM)
It will work, audio editing/recording/producing is not that resource hog compared to video rendering, if you only use for audio program, you can ditch the GPU and spend the money in getting a better PSU and processor.
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Nah. I'm also gonna use it for gaming. Hence, the GTX 750 Ti.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 11 2015, 07:08 PM)
Viewnet, ALL IT, Sri Computer and etc are selling them.
You can also go for Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, also got 8 phase VRM and looks cool too, RM 663  thumbup.gif
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soundcard audio quality? comparable to my Asus Crosshair iii formula? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 12 2015, 10:53 AM)
soundcard audio quality? comparable to my Asus Crosshair iii formula? hmm.gif
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Both are using same SupremeFX X-Fi 8 channels HD audio card so the quality should be about the same
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 12:52 PM)
Both are using same SupremeFX X-Fi 8 channels HD audio card so the quality should be about the same
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what about Asus maximus vii ranger and Gryphon z97? same audio card? whats the diff with pro gamer?

i'm really confused now between Asrock, MSI, Asus and gigabyte. searching which provide the best features with almost the same value. lol. rclxub.gif

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Budget: <RM2k if possible, can go up to RM2.5k if absolutely necessary.
Usage: Dota 2 & CS (Max settings), HD movies (main usage), torrents, occasional CAD softwares, Microsoft Office, multitasking.
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 12 2015, 01:00 PM)
what about Asus maximus vii ranger and Gryphon z97? same audio card? whats the diff with pro gamer?

i'm really confused now between Asrock, MSI, Asus and gigabyte. searching which provide the best features with almost the same value. lol.  rclxub.gif
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Asus Maximus VII Ranger is using same sound card as PRO GAMER, Gryphon z97 is M-ATX mobo and using realtek sound card.

Asus products are having "premium" price here, if you want to get best value mobo, go for Asrock, it's always cheaper than other brands and quite reliable, but the Gigabyte Z97X GAming 5 and Asus Z97 PRO GAMER both are almost same price.

QUOTE(a.d.d.i.c.t.e.d @ May 12 2015, 01:06 PM)
Hey guys, need a rig recommendation. This will be my first rig. Already have a Dell 24" monitor, keyboard and mouse. I will be needing Windows.

Budget: <RM2k if possible, can go up to RM2.5k if absolutely necessary.
Usage: Dota 2 & CS (Max settings), HD movies (main usage), torrents, occasional CAD softwares, Microsoft Office, multitasking.
Requirements: Reliable and upgradable.

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Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Leadtek GTX750 1GB GDDR5 OC - RM 419
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W PSU - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Windows 7 Pro OEM - RM 200

Total: RM 1918.32 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet, Windows genuine copy is from Idealtech)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 01:39 PM)
Asus Maximus VII Ranger is using same sound card as PRO GAMER, Gryphon z97 is M-ATX mobo and using realtek sound card.

Asus products are having "premium" price here, if you want to get best value mobo, go for Asrock, it's always cheaper than other brands and quite reliable, but the Gigabyte Z97X GAming 5 and Asus Z97 PRO GAMER both are almost same price.
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Leadtek GTX750 1GB GDDR5 OC - RM 419
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W PSU - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Windows 7 Pro OEM - RM 200

Total: RM 1918.32 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet, Windows genuine copy is from Idealtech)
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So which Asrock z97 provides at least the same or more features compare to this premium brands?
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 12 2015, 02:03 PM)
So which Asrock z97 provides at least the same or more features compare to this premium brands?
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If you are looking for good onboard sound card and overclocking ability, just pick the Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, Asrock Extreme 4 which is about the same price point only using realtek sound card.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 02:52 PM)
If you are looking for good onboard sound card and overclocking ability, just pick the Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, Asrock Extreme 4 which is about the same price point only using realtek sound card.
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so all Arock z97 only using realtek sound card where as only Asus Z97 Pro Gamer and above use the better supremeXF sound card? hmm.gif
what about gigabyte?
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so all Arock z97 only using realtek sound card where as only Asus Z97 Pro Gamer and above use the better supremeXF sound card? hmm.gif
what about gigabyte?
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If comparing with same price point with Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, it is the only one with custom SupremeFX sound card, Gigabyte also using realtek one.
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 11 2015, 01:40 PM)
Feel like to change MSI SLI Krait to ASUS Maximus VII Hero hmm.gif
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Not worth it.Costs around RM1k,but you only need the Z97 for 2 PCI-E x16 slots to run dual cards..in which MSI Z97-SLI Krait has and is the cheapest AFAIK.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 03:42 PM)
If comparing with same price point with Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, it is the only one with custom SupremeFX sound card, Gigabyte also using realtek one.
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is the Realtek ALC1150 that bad? because i am quite impressed with the rich features of Asrock z97 series for that price. lol. tongue.gif
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is the Realtek ALC1150 that bad? because i am quite impressed with the rich features of Asrock z97 series for that price. lol. tongue.gif
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I am fine with that, the quality isn't that bad afterall.
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 12 2015, 04:42 PM)
is the Realtek ALC1150 that bad? because i am quite impressed with the rich features of Asrock z97 series for that price. lol. tongue.gif
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There was a very detailed explanation by SSJBen regarding the ALC1150 before. smile.gif
QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 18 2015, 05:22 PM)
The motherboards from the last couple of years has been starting to at least make some strides in audio quality. ALC1150 is actually a pretty decent DAC, but having the DAC itself is only part of a whole audio solution. How it is implemented (with the right caps, the amp for stage out, channel inputs/out, etc.) is also crucial to how good a DAC sound.

One of the best DACs on the market now a days is still the ESS9018 and without proper implementation, I can guarantee that it won't sound better than an average entry level DAC. That said, DACs now a days sounds pretty similar to one another. It's not a very significant difference, noticeable but never night and day.

To answer your question, the ALC1150 (I assume you're talking about this DAC as most "gaming" mobos uses this) is a warmish sounding DAC, not overly warm though. In comparison to say a Creative SBZ, it uses a Cirrus Logic CS4398, it's warmer than the ALC1150 in sound signature, which usually means more depth (and bloat) in bass. Which is better is up to your ears to decide, but if you ask me if they are comparable then I'd say yes.

Obviously the SBZ has a better implementation and comes with Creative's SBX software.  We are getting closer to the day where I think most gamers who actually care about audio quality would not need anything more than the standard ALC1150 on their mobo. There are still some flaws even on the most expensive "gaming" motherboard now, once they fix this then I think most gamers should be in for a good audio treat.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 12 2015, 04:53 PM)
There was a very detailed explanation by SSJBen regarding the ALC1150 before. smile.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3497368/+40?hl=ALC1150
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thx! that is very enlightening. so guys, if soundcard is not the priority, i think asrock is quite bang for the buck. should i go for Extreme6, z97 killer or z97x killer?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 01:39 PM)
Asus Maximus VII Ranger is using same sound card as PRO GAMER, Gryphon z97 is M-ATX mobo and using realtek sound card.

Asus products are having "premium" price here, if you want to get best value mobo, go for Asrock, it's always cheaper than other brands and quite reliable, but the Gigabyte Z97X GAming 5 and Asus Z97 PRO GAMER both are almost same price.
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Leadtek GTX750 1GB GDDR5 OC - RM 419
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W PSU - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Windows 7 Pro OEM - RM 200

Total: RM 1918.32 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet, Windows genuine copy is from Idealtech)
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Why not upgrade the GTX 750 Ti to the 2GB edition or get the R7 265 instead?
Also, I think can upgrade the Intel Core i3 4150 to Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz at RM670-ish.

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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 12 2015, 05:45 PM)
Why not upgrade the GTX 750 Ti to the 2GB edition or get the R7 265 instead?
Also, I think can upgrade the Intel Core i3 4150 to Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz at RM670-ish.
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The GPU terence_nwb suggested is GTX750,not GTX750Ti. tongue.gif Ti is its brother.


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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 12 2015, 05:47 PM)
The GPU terence_nwb suggested is GTX750,not GTX750Ti. tongue.gif Ti is its brother.
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Haha, yeah, I mean the guy who asked for the suggestion said he can expand to 2.5k of budget, hence I suggested to give it an upgrade of the i5 and going for the 750 Ti 2GB OC version or the R7 265 instead. Would make it a much better setup. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 12 2015, 05:45 PM)
Why not upgrade the GTX 750 Ti to the 2GB edition or get the R7 265 instead?
Also, I think can upgrade the Intel Core i3 4150 to Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz at RM670-ish.
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He requested a build below 2k, if change the GPU and processor, it would be more than 2.5k.
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[Personal preferences] intel i7 4790k, gtx960 4gb or gtx970, include casing and monitor

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[Budget] RM4k

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[Games & softwares that use frequently] gta5 cod advanced warfare

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It's 4oclock and I too lazy to come out with my own build, so I borrowed and modded from Minecrafer's build here.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=74314246
Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM954
Asrock H97 Pro4 RM330
Gainward Phantom GTX970 RM1325
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Budget case RM200
Samsung S22C170BS RM402.80
Logitech Wired K120 Keyboard RM29
Total: RM4k+/-

If you seriously want to squeeze in a SSD in the same budget, get non-phantom GTX970 (save RM50), find sub RM100 OEM case, get H97m/H87 (save another RM20-50) and try nego with the shop.

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It's 4oclock and I too lazy to come out with my own build, so I borrowed and modded from Minecrafer's build here.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=74314246
Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM954
Asrock H97 Pro4 RM330
Gainward Phantom GTX970 RM1325
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Budget case RM200
Samsung S22C170BS RM402.80
Logitech Wired K120 Keyboard RM29
Total: RM4k+/-

If you seriously want to squeeze in a SSD in the same budget, get non-phantom GTX970 (save RM50), find sub RM100 OEM case, get H97m/H87 (save another RM20-50) and try nego with the shop.
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what if i use back my old desktop motherboard msi ms7680, ram 4gb, casing? maybe add 1 more 4gb ram

or it is better to just get a new 1?
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what if i use back my old desktop motherboard msi ms7680, ram 4gb, casing? maybe add 1 more 4gb ram

or it is better to just get a new 1?
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No, you can't install Haswell (or soon Broadwell) CPU on H6X mobo. Also old mobo may not have PCIE3.0, may bottleneck the GPU performance by little or more.

RAM may be reusable if it is single stick 4GB, preferably at least 1333Mhz speed for better compatibility with current RAM of speed 1600Mhz and above. You can skip the RAM first and see how the old 4GB work on your new rig first before deciding on how many more RAM to buy.

Casing is generally reusable as long as the size is acceptable but modern casing tend to have better design for mounting bigger size fan (12cm and above).

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QUOTE(adamcyr @ May 13 2015, 11:51 AM)
I wish to build a gaming rig for the budget of RM5200-5400. I do research a lot abt those hardware but i guess all the sifu and master here are able to help me  biggrin.gif  Anyway, im not a hardcore gamer but I wish to play game with ultra or max graphic settings (if possible) and pls suggest me a 23/24" good monitor that included in the budget. Thanks all sifu in advance  rclxms.gif
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Check my suggestion above, the original build by Minecrafer is a 5k+ build. You just need to swap out the monitor for a decent 23/24" and you are good to go.

But personally, I will suggest you to get a GTX970 instead of GTX980 for the time being as next gen GPU by AMD is around the corner (hence GTX980 will get dethroned by 390x and 980TI), for sure to anticipate some price change on GTX980 soon after that. You can get a GTX970 and speculate on how the things go first before pulling the trigger for a GPU cost over RM2.3k. GTX970 cost starting RM1.3k to RM1.7k, the cheapest one will do since you just test water first.

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[Budget] RM3k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard and mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]  DOTA2 max settings and Guild Wars 2 High settings

[Personal preferences] None

[Location] KL

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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 676.28
MSI B85M-E33 - RM 232.14
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 222.60
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1376.94
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94

Total: RM 3001.64 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet)

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 13 2015, 07:23 PM)
Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 676.28
MSI B85M-E33 - RM 232.14
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 222.60
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1376.94
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94

Total: RM 3001.64 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet)
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post May 14 2015, 08:13 AM

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Guys just wanted to ask how much is this rig should cost today?
Bought last year, age is 1 year and 3 months...? No problem or anything, just using now for watching movie...
Decided to sell it but i really don't have any idea how much should it cost now?

please advice..


CPU: Intel Core I7 4770
MOBO: ASrock Z87 Exterme 3
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 2x4GB DDR3 1600mhz x2units
HDD: WD 1TB Caviar Blue HDD
Chasis: CM 690 III Advanced
PSU: Seasonic M12 II 620W PSU
ODD: Liteon 24x Sata DVDRW
Periperal: Logitech Media Combo MK270
LCD: Dell 21.5" S2240L
GPU: Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 2GB DDR5



thanks a lot guys
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post May 14 2015, 10:51 AM

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Hi all.

1 yr ady i didn't open this section since i builde my rig. sweat.gif

Ok I've sold my R9 280X. Now looking the best upgrade for it. Prepare for Witcher 3, and next 2016 game. Budget wise, less then 1.5k perhaps.

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[Budget] RM 1k

[Purpose] Business purposes, GST software, Stock control software etc

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[Monitor resolution] 768p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] GST software, stock control software, invoice software, lots of web browsing for insurance and JPJ purposes.

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QUOTE(creative zn @ May 14 2015, 10:51 AM)
Hi all.

1 yr ady i didn't open this section since i builde my rig. sweat.gif

Ok I've sold my R9 280X. Now looking the best upgrade for it. Prepare for Witcher 3, and next 2016 game. Budget wise, less then 1.5k perhaps.

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No doubt GTX970
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Hi guise, so my 7950 boost decided to die suddenly (vertical red lines, checkerboard during POST etc).

Usage:
- 1080p gaming, decidedly less game time now (woes of a working unker/adult)
- single monitor
- using a haswell i5 @ 4Ghz, with SSD and 8GB RAM.

So, What should i aim for ? :

- 2nd hand 7950 ? (cheapest but doubts on quality, esp those from bitcoin miners)
- gtx 960 ? 4gb ? (middle ground, as fast if not faster than 7950/280 and a lot quieter/less heat)
- R 290 tri x ? GTX 970 ? (most expensive choice, but supposedly longer lasting...)
- just suck it up and use integrated grpahics (intel HD) until computex in june (R 3xx/cheaper pricing on current models)
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QUOTE(Eoma @ May 14 2015, 02:14 PM)
Hi guise, so my 7950 boost decided to die suddenly (vertical red lines, checkerboard during POST etc).

Usage:
- 1080p gaming, decidedly less game time now (woes of a working unker/adult)
- single monitor
- using a haswell i5 @ 4Ghz, with SSD and 8GB RAM.

So, What should i aim for ?  :

- 2nd hand 7950 ? (cheapest but doubts on quality, esp those from bitcoin miners)
- gtx 960 ? 4gb ? (middle ground, as fast if not faster than 7950/280 and a lot quieter/less heat)
- R 290 tri x ? GTX 970 ? (most expensive choice, but supposedly longer lasting...)
- just suck it up and use integrated grpahics (intel HD) until computex in june          (R 3xx/cheaper pricing on current models)
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If can afford then GTX970, can't afford then 2nd hand 290 is great, many around for under RM700.
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RM2k enough to build rig (decent game setting) + 21" LCD?
actually gonna use it for work - illustrator, photoshop, lots of chrome/mozilla tabs, vmware & etc.
occasionally play games like warhammer etc
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ May 14 2015, 06:00 PM)
RM2k enough to build rig (decent game setting) + 21" LCD?
actually gonna use it for work - illustrator, photoshop, lots of chrome/mozilla tabs, vmware & etc.
occasionally play games like warhammer etc
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If 2k without monitor still probably can play at mid settings in some games, 2k with monitor will have to settle with low settings mostly.
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H guys. I got an x51 with i7 3770 with 16gb ram and gtx 660. I know the restriction of the psu. I wanna know is it worth it to upgrade from gtx660 to 960?
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QUOTE(mumukau81 @ May 14 2015, 09:28 PM)
H guys. I got an x51 with i7 3770 with 16gb ram and gtx 660. I know the restriction of the psu. I wanna know is it worth it to upgrade from gtx660 to 960?
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Depends on what is actually limiting you, if you want to play on higher settings but the frame rate is not satisfying you currently with your GTX660, then I will recommend you to go for it, GTX960 is roughly 33% more powerful than GTX660, but if you have extra budget, spend another few hundred bucks for a GTX970 will give you more significant performance boost.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 14 2015, 09:33 PM)
Depends on what is actually limiting you, if you want to play on higher settings but the frame rate is not satisfying you currently with your GTX660, then I will recommend you to go for it, GTX960 is roughly 33% more powerful than GTX660, but if you have extra budget, spend another few hundred bucks for a GTX970 will give you more significant performance boost.
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Im considering gtx970 but x51 1st generation psu cant support it. Need further modification. Maybe need to do more research on psu for my little rig.
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post May 14 2015, 09:38 PM

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[Purpose] gaming like dota 2

[Hardwares that will be re-use] don't mind as long can dota2
[Monitor] any size

[Personal preferences] full desktop system plug and play

[Location] kl

My budget is tight but I just want to play dota2
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post May 14 2015, 10:50 PM

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[Budget]RM2.3K+-

[Purpose]GAMING, dun mind medium setting, as long as can last for 4-5 years to play every game is sufficient.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]monitor and speaker

[Monitor resolution]no need monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently]Assasin creed type of games

[Personal preferences]as long as cheap dun mind brand

[Location]Kl

thank you
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post May 14 2015, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(babyjono @ May 14 2015, 09:38 PM)
[Budget] RM1k don't mind second hand stuff

[Purpose] gaming like dota 2

[Hardwares that will be re-use] don't mind as long can dota2
[Monitor] any size

[Personal preferences] full desktop system plug and play

[Location] kl

My budget is tight but I just want to play dota2
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Your budget is way too low, I suggest to look for second hand item in Garage Sales such as used Intel Pentium G3240/3250, used H81 mobo, used RAM, used HDD, used HD6950 (iPmart is selling used if I am not mistaken around RM150), used PSU & chassis, used monitor. Not much can be done with that limited 1k budget.

QUOTE(skyssz @ May 14 2015, 10:50 PM)
[Budget]RM2.3K+-

[Purpose]GAMING, dun mind medium setting, as long as can last for 4-5 years to play every game is sufficient.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]monitor and speaker

[Monitor resolution]no need monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently]Assasin creed type of games

[Personal preferences]as long as cheap dun mind brand

[Location]Kl

thank you
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 676.28
MSI B85M-E33 - RM 232.14
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 222.60
Sapphire R9 270X 2GB GDDR5 Dual-X OC - RM 678.40
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94

Total: RM 2303.1 (PSU is from Viewnet, the rest is from Jayacom inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(mumukau81 @ May 14 2015, 09:36 PM)
Im considering gtx970 but x51 1st generation psu cant support it. Need further modification. Maybe need to do more research on psu for my little rig.
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Really? Their power requirement only 5W different according to official specs?
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gp.../specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gp.../specifications

You can also down clock it to make sure it stay under the maximum power consumption threshold at all time.

If you mean the 8+6 pins vs 6+6 pins, you can mod the connectors to make it compatible as long as you know what you are doing.

You can also try ITX cards which are designed to run at lower power consumption (there's only one 8 pins connector as you can see here).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814125706
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814121912

EDITED: Ok, my bad. Seems like the original PSU of the X51 is rated for 330W only. It will be really risky to stress it too much. If possible consider change the PSU so you don't get limited just for it.
http://www.amazon.com/Alienware-X51-i7-377...B/dp/B009WAK676

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post May 15 2015, 12:18 PM

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[Budget] RM 1k - RM 1.2K

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[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard and mouse

[Personal preferences] None

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post May 15 2015, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(babyjono @ May 14 2015, 09:38 PM)
[Budget] RM1k don't mind second hand stuff

[Purpose] gaming like dota 2

[Hardwares that will be re-use] don't mind as long can dota2
[Monitor] any size

[Personal preferences] full desktop system plug and play

[Location] kl

My budget is tight but I just want to play dota2
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Your budget is way too low, even worse that you don't have the basic such as casing, keyboard, mouse & monitor covered.

Try going for second hand build or raising your budget.
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QUOTE(kidayo @ May 15 2015, 12:18 PM)
Any sifu please help!  sad.gif
Thanks!

[Budget] RM 1k - RM 1.2K

[Purpose] GST software software, movie drama.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard and mouse

[Personal preferences] None
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Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 376
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 168
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 115
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 179
Corsair VS 450W - RM 150
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 99

Total: RM 1152.22 (Jayacom price inclusive of GST)
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post May 15 2015, 01:26 PM

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Guys I need your suggestion. Since I recently upgraded my home PC, well it's not upgraded it's a whole renovation. I want to add a GPU into it so after SPM I can just build my real PC without any hassle.

I was thinking of getting the GTX 960 due to
1) I'm an NFag and
2) It's low power consumption since this new PC got a FSP Hexa 450+

So the specs of the home PC is this

Pentium G3240 @3.1GHz
4GB RAM
1TB HDD WD Green
FSP 450+
Asrock H81M-HG4

So I know there'll be bottleneck but you think it's good enough? I know there's a new AMD gpu goin out sooner but...yea my preferences is too much on N. So good to go for a GTX 960? And what's the cheapest for one as well?
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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 15 2015, 01:26 PM)
Guys I need your suggestion. Since I recently upgraded my home PC, well it's not upgraded it's a whole renovation. I want to add a GPU into it so after SPM I can just build my real PC without any hassle.

I was thinking of getting the GTX 960 due to
1) I'm an NFag and
2) It's low power consumption since this new PC got a FSP Hexa 450+

So the specs of the home PC is this

Pentium G3240 @3.1GHz
4GB RAM
1TB HDD WD Green
FSP 450+
Asrock H81M-HG4

So I know there'll be bottleneck but you think it's good enough? I know there's a new AMD gpu goin out sooner but...yea my preferences is too much on N. So good to go for a GTX 960? And what's the cheapest for one as well?
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Good to go but expect some bottlenecks from your processor and it won't be able to run some games such as Dragon Age Inquisition and Far Cry 4. Cheapest GTX960 currently is MSI reference model RM 847 with GST.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 15 2015, 01:41 PM)
Good to go but expect some bottlenecks from your processor and it won't be able to run some games such as Dragon Age Inquisition and Far Cry 4. Cheapest GTX960 currently is MSI reference model RM 847 with GST.
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Oo dayum. RM 847. Anyhow I won't be playing those games. So it's good to go eh?
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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 15 2015, 02:09 PM)
Oo dayum. RM 847. Anyhow I won't be playing those games. So it's good to go eh?
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Yea, good to go for now.
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Hi all sifu, I repost again as I failed get my rig last month...

[Budget] 1.8k exclude GPU as i will get from 1 of the Forumer here - MSI GTX970 OC

[Reuse Hardware] casing - mid, monitor

[Purpose] - Gaming

[Preference] Sensonic PSU, Intel CPU. Gaming pc which can last few years

Thanks

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post May 15 2015, 02:44 PM

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Hi Guys,

Opinions needed. rclxms.gif

Spec 1

CM Elite 120 Advanced
Asus J1900I-C
Kingston 8gb SoDimm
Logitech MK240

Spec 2

CM Elite 120 Advanced
Intel G3240
Asrock H81M-ITX
Kingston 8gb Dimm
Logitech MK240


intend to use as a htpc for watching movies , torrenting , downloading and browser games.
it wont be on 24/7 . for torrenting / download mostly is when im sleeping.

i have a unused graphic card ( forgot model could be hd5450 ) , a 3tb hd and a 5.1speaker

which specs is better or recommend a better cheaper spec . budget keep it as cheap as possible.

thx

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post May 15 2015, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(ahgan91 @ May 15 2015, 02:42 PM)
Hi all sifu, I repost again as I failed get my rig last month...

[Budget] 1.8k exclude GPU as i will get from 1 of the Forumer here - MSI GTX970 OC

[Reuse Hardware] casing - mid, monitor

[Purpose] - Gaming

[Preference] Sensonic PSU, Intel CPU. Gaming pc which can last few years

Thanks
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Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM676.28
Asrock H97-Pro4 RM348.74
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Total:RM1752.02
Prices of the CPU and MoBo are from Jayacom@LYP,the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Is the casing ATX?

This post has been edited by Minecrafter: May 15 2015, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 15 2015, 03:48 PM)
Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM676.28
Asrock H97-Pro4 RM348.74
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Total:RM1752.02
Prices of the CPU and MoBo are from Jayacom@LYP,the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Is the casing ATX?
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Hi all sifu, thx for the advise as above but I got 1 issue... if I gather all the parts from different shop... I duno how to assemble, how ? The casing i think MATX... CM Elite series the cheapest...

Thanks
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QUOTE(ahgan91 @ May 15 2015, 04:13 PM)
Hi all sifu, thx for the advise as above but I got 1 issue... if I gather all the parts from different shop... I duno how to assemble, how ? The casing i think MATX... CM Elite series the cheapest...

Thanks
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Oh,you don't know.Alright.

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM699
Asrock H97-Pro4 RM349-369
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Total:RM1775-1805
Prices are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

There you go.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 15 2015, 05:27 PM)
Oh,you don't know.Alright.

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM699
Asrock H97-Pro4 RM349-369
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Total:RM1775-1805
Prices are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

There you go.
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Any charges from viewnet if they help me assemble all the hardware into my own casing? Haha

Thank
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QUOTE(ahgan91 @ May 15 2015, 04:30 PM)
Any charges from viewnet if they help me assemble all the hardware into my own casing? Haha

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If you are using a mATX case, then you need to get mATX mobo, what Minecrafter suggested is an ATX mobo, so change it to H97M-Pro4 if want the same model or cheaper B85M-HDS.

If you buy all parts from them, no extra charge for assembling.
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Looks like it's time to get myself a souped up PC, starting to have game releases I simply cannot play any more.

So obviously, just for gaming. Don't need monitor, keyboard, mouse or sound system, all already there. Just processor, graphics card, ram, psu, casing. Hoping to throw in a small SSD for better OS operation and some games.

I'm totally out of the loop in terms of what's hot these days, what kind of range can I get with around 5k?
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Thinking of upgrading my currently 5 yr old rig for Witcher 3.

Current:
i5 760 @ 2.8ghz
4gb ram
gtx460
psu 400w

Thinking of either getting GTX 750 Ti or 960.. leaning towards the 960 as i only buy a card once in 5 years. Prolly a new right by the next time.

Would the current processor bottle neck the system much with the gtx 960?

Which GTX 960 would be the best bang for the buck (in terms or value)

Do i need to upgrade anything else? Ram?

This post has been edited by iv'N: May 15 2015, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 15 2015, 01:26 PM)
Guys I need your suggestion. Since I recently upgraded my home PC, well it's not upgraded it's a whole renovation. I want to add a GPU into it so after SPM I can just build my real PC without any hassle.

I was thinking of getting the GTX 960 due to
1) I'm an NFag and
2) It's low power consumption since this new PC got a FSP Hexa 450+

So the specs of the home PC is this

Pentium G3240 @3.1GHz
4GB RAM
1TB HDD WD Green
FSP 450+
Asrock H81M-HG4

So I know there'll be bottleneck but you think it's good enough? I know there's a new AMD gpu goin out sooner but...yea my preferences is too much on N. So good to go for a GTX 960? And what's the cheapest for one as well?
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The 960 should be fine , there will be a slight bottleneck but not much, I'm more concern with ram since I noticed most triple A titles are starting to use up more than 3GB. For example GTA V can chew up to 5GB after some playing time. You can try buying from cyntrixtech since they're having their warehouse sales right now https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...?type=1&theater

QUOTE(iv'N @ May 15 2015, 05:32 PM)
Thinking of upgrading my currently 5 yr old rig for Witcher 3.

Current:
i5 760 @ 2.8ghz
4gb ram
gtx460
psu 400w

Thinking of either getting GTX 750 Ti or 960.. leaning towards the 960 as i only buy a card once in 5 years. Prolly a new right by the next time.

Would the current processor bottle neck the system much with the gtx 960?

Which GTX 960 would be the best bang for the buck (in terms or value)

Do i need to upgrade anything else? Ram?
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Hmm , i was about to suggest a 970 but then i saw the ram. Add another stick of 4GB and get the 960. Saw a demo a while back that a single gtx 980 can run witcher 3 at very good frame rates. If its true then with the 960, dial down some of the settings and it should be very playable. Again You can try buying from cyntrixtech since they're having their warehouse sales right now https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...?type=1&theater

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sifu2.. need rig suggestion for budget 2.5k-3k
everything needed including monitor.. dont too big lar,just normal gaming like LoL ,dota2 those..
make mouse and keyboard out from the list and see what I can get tongue.gif
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 15 2015, 05:54 PM)
The 960 should be fine , there will be a slight bottleneck but not much, I'm more concern with ram since I noticed most triple A titles are starting to use up more than 3GB. For example GTA V can chew up to 5GB after some playing time. You can try buying from cyntrixtech since they're having their warehouse sales right now
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Hmm some of my friends said that the 960 isn't as good for price/perf ratio. So currently I'm pretty bumped. What to choose.
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QUOTE(andyliew97 @ May 15 2015, 08:09 PM)
sifu2.. need rig suggestion for budget 2.5k-3k
everything needed including monitor.. dont too big lar,just normal gaming like LoL ,dota2 those..
make mouse and keyboard out from the list and see what I can get tongue.gif
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 676.28
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 253.34
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 222.60
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Samsung S20C300FY monitor - RM 333.90

Leadtek GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 899
Seasonic S12II EVO 520W - RM 279

Total: RM 2958.8 (GPU and PSU is from Viewnet, others are from Jayacom with GST)

QUOTE(Zgames @ May 15 2015, 09:06 PM)
Hmm some of my friends said that the 960 isn't as good for price/perf ratio. So currently I'm pretty bumped. What to choose.
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If comparing to same priced AMD GPU like R9 280/280X, GTX960 is definitely weaker than it but in order to run the former card, you need a better PSU due to its power hunger status. So if you want to keep your current PSU, GTX960 is your best choice.
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Hmm some of my friends said that the 960 isn't as good for price/perf ratio. So currently I'm pretty bumped. What to choose.
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in terms of raw performance , it's a faster version of 760 which is not a bad thing at all since nvidia are concentrating more on their maxwell card than the previous gen. So optimization will be better than the 760. And yeah like terence said the power and temp will be very efficient. Unless you're willing to purchase 2nd hand card on which you can fairly easily find a used gtx 770 or r9 290 for below rm1k biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 15 2015, 09:23 PM)
If comparing to same priced AMD GPU like R9 280/280X, GTX960 is definitely weaker than it but in order to run the former card, you need a better PSU due to its power hunger status. So if you want to keep your current PSU, GTX960 is your best choice.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 15 2015, 09:32 PM)
in terms of raw performance , it's a  faster version of 760 which is not a bad thing at all since nvidia are concentrating more on their maxwell card than the previous gen. So optimization will be better than the 760. And yeah like terence said the power and temp will be very efficient. Unless you're willing to purchase 2nd hand card on which you can fairly easily find a used gtx 770 or r9 290 for below rm1k  biggrin.gif
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Ahh I see, well I guess I'll go browse the GS and search for 2nd hand 760. It seems like a 450watt system can handle it. Plus it's cheap already laugh.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 15 2015, 05:54 PM)
The 960 should be fine , there will be a slight bottleneck but not much, I'm more concern with ram since I noticed most triple A titles are starting to use up more than 3GB. For example GTA V can chew up to 5GB after some playing time. You can try buying from cyntrixtech since they're having their warehouse sales right now https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...?type=1&theater
Hmm , i was about to suggest a 970 but then i saw the ram. Add another stick of 4GB and get the 960. Saw a demo a while back that a single gtx 980 can run witcher 3 at very good frame rates. If its true then with the 960, dial down some of the settings and it should be very playable. Again You can try buying from cyntrixtech since they're having their warehouse sales right now https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...?type=1&theater
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thanks for the tip bro.. would go check out cyntrixtech.. the zotac cards seems quite value biggrin.gif

currently im using 2x kingston 2gb ram 1333.. i should stick back to another 2 pieces of same ram? what do you reckon?
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thanks for the tip bro.. would go check out cyntrixtech.. the zotac cards seems quite value biggrin.gif

currently im using 2x kingston 2gb ram 1333.. i should stick back to another 2 pieces of same ram? what do you reckon?
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I'm a little confused.

I compared the GTX 960 and R7 265, going at RM749 on sale (originally at RM800+) and RM 564.98 respectively.

However, comparing the R7 265 and GTX 960, the R7 265 delivers much more better performance.

It confuses me on how something that costs RM200 more could be out performed by something much cheaper.

Can someone explain to me why?



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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 16 2015, 12:46 AM)
I'm a little confused.

I compared the GTX 960 and R7 265, going at RM749 on sale (originally at RM800+) and RM 564.98 respectively.

However, comparing the R7 265 and GTX 960, the R7 265 delivers much more better performance.

It confuses me on how something that costs RM200 more could be out performed by something much cheaper.

Can someone explain to me why?
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It's new product vs old product, and AMD had a price slash after 9xx series is out last year which made the r7 even cheaper than before.

Same thing is probably going to happen soon on nvidia side after new AMD 3xx series is out in a couple of weeks/months.
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It's new product vs old product, and AMD had a price slash after 9xx series is out last year which made the r7 even cheaper than before.

Same thing is probably going to happen soon on nvidia side after new AMD 3xx series is out in a couple of weeks/months.
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So, in long term short, is the R7 265 more worth of a bang for the buck compared to the GTX750Ti or GTX960?
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So, in long term short, is the R7 265 more worth of a bang for the buck compared to the GTX750Ti or GTX960?
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Yes as for now, but nvidia tends to have better driver support than AMD though  wink.gif
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AMD has better performance cards but the software experience and driver support is won by nVidia.
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Hmm some of my friends said that the 960 isn't as good for price/perf ratio. So currently I'm pretty bumped. What to choose.
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In some way, yes.

People being anticipating 760's successor for a long time (760 launched back in mid of 2013 while 960 only come out after almost 1.5 years).

Somemore, the situation further agitated by the impressive performance and price of 970, people are expecting 960 to be on par or better than 770 while maintaining the advantages of Maxwell architecture.

But Nvidia decided to smash everyone's dream and make it an average performance card improved (but barely better in performance) from its predecessor. The situation is similar to GTX750TI vs GTX 650TI Boost. On paper it is about a half cut of GTX970, fitted with practically no headroom for be futureproof (128bit memory and 2GB GDDR5).
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So TL;DR, 960 is not a card for bang for buckness.

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Ahh I see, well I guess I'll go browse the GS and search for 2nd hand 760. It seems like a 450watt system can handle it. Plus it's cheap already laugh.gif biggrin.gif
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Mind you the Nvidia recommended requirement is 500W (though I have to admit they usually put in lots of headroom).

Technically speaking, a proper and decent 450W will have no problem powering it. But the main problem here is there isn't much solid or decent 450W around. It will be risky to power it up in a cap ayam 450W.

Here's the PSU which is by same OEM as your PSU. Their design and power distribution probably hadn't changed much.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Ant...y-Review/1487/7

Since the PSU is dual rail, each rail is capable of delivering up to about 15A of current or 180W of power.

Nvidia's official specs stated that reference GTX760 consume max 170W, and here a test on it proved it to be somewhere above 160W. Now you only left with under 20W of headroom.

But what's more interesting is non-reference GTX760, they always come factory overclocked and it will change the maximum power consumption of it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/...GTX_760/25.html

Here we can see several GTX760 breached the 180W mark.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX..._Gaming/22.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeF..._Gaming/25.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyt...orce_OC/25.html

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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 16 2015, 12:46 AM)
I'm a little confused.

I compared the GTX 960 and R7 265, going at RM749 on sale (originally at RM800+) and RM 564.98 respectively.

However, comparing the R7 265 and GTX 960, the R7 265 delivers much more better performance.

It confuses me on how something that costs RM200 more could be out performed by something much cheaper.

Can someone explain to me why?
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Nah, 960 is a tier higher than 265 for sure (at least 20% different). AMD's same tier GPU is 280/285.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX..._Gaming/29.html

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 16 2015, 07:50 AM)
Mind you the Nvidia recommended requirement is 500W (though I have to admit they usually put in lots of headroom).

Technically speaking, a proper and decent 450W will have no problem powering it. But the main problem here is there isn't much solid or decent 450W around. It will be risky to power it up in a cap ayam 450W.

Here's the PSU which is by same OEM as your PSU. Their design and power distribution probably hadn't changed much.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Ant...y-Review/1487/7

Since the PSU is dual rail, each rail is capable of delivering up to about 15A of current or 180W of power.

Nvidia's official specs stated that reference GTX760 consume max 170W, and here a test on it proved it to be somewhere above 160W. Now you only left with under 20W of headroom.

But what's more interesting is non-reference GTX760, they always come factory overclocked and it will change the maximum power consumption of it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/...GTX_760/25.html

Here we can see several GTX760 breached the 180W mark.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX..._Gaming/22.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeF..._Gaming/25.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyt...orce_OC/25.html
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Well I don't think I need to worry about it since it's the Hexa 450+ series here. Good enough?
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Well I don't think I need to worry about it since it's the Hexa 450+ series here. Good enough?
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Good enough for a 450W.

But it is still a 450W (360W to be precise IINM), running 760 on it is like running at the edge of a cliff. You can run, but any mistake and you fall off the cliff.

Max current for rail1 - 17A (204W)
http://www.fsplifestyle.com/documents/h2.pdf

Another thing I didn't factor in my post above is PSU can degrade over time, hence further gapping between the power requirement and capacity.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 16 2015, 01:20 PM)
Good enough for a 450W.

But it is still a 450W (360W to be precise IINM), running 760 on it is like running at the edge of a cliff. You can run, but any mistake and you fall off the cliff.

Max current for rail1 - 17A (204W)
http://www.fsplifestyle.com/documents/h2.pdf

Another thing I didn't factor in my post above is PSU can degrade over time, hence further gapping between the power requirement and capacity.
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hi guys i got a quote for the below specs at 2.3k (include gst)

CPU I5 4590
Mobo Asrock H97M Pro4
Ram Corsair 8gb value
SSD Kingston V300 240gb
Casing Bitfenix Prodigy M
PSU CX600M (80+ Bronze)

rig is currently for work purpose,
but later will fit in 970 gc if i have enough budget
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is the spec ok?
other suggestion is most welcome
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QUOTE(icp @ May 16 2015, 05:13 PM)
hi guys i got a quote for the below specs at 2.3k (include gst)

CPU I5 4590
Mobo Asrock H97M Pro4
Ram Corsair 8gb value
SSD Kingston V300 240gb
Casing  Bitfenix Prodigy M
PSU CX600M (80+ Bronze)

rig is currently for work purpose,
but later will fit in 970 gc if i have enough budget
(maybe got luck in garage sales section  whistling.gif )

is the spec ok?
other suggestion is most welcome
especially for mobo and psu
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Somewhat overpriced.

Generally, i5 4440 is enough for most people. It should cost under RM700 IINM.
Some stores sell the mobo you quoted for RM320 before tax AFAIK.
8GB value RAM RM230.
Kingston V300 (not exactly a good performer, get liteon OEM drive better) RM430.
Bitfenix prodigy (before GST I recall it cost around RM350?)
Get a Seasonic PSU better, 520W modular at RM300 IIRC.

RM1660 + (670*1.06) = RM2370
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QUOTE(icp @ May 16 2015, 05:13 PM)
hi guys i got a quote for the below specs at 2.3k (include gst)

CPU I5 4590
Mobo Asrock H97M Pro4
Ram Corsair 8gb value
SSD Kingston V300 240gb
Casing  Bitfenix Prodigy M
PSU CX600M (80+ Bronze)

rig is currently for work purpose,
but later will fit in 970 gc if i have enough budget
(maybe got luck in garage sales section  whistling.gif )

is the spec ok?
other suggestion is most welcome
especially for mobo and psu
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Intel Core i5 4460 and 4590 is just a slight difference in clock speed but the price difference is RM50, I would use this RM50 to invest in other parts since you are using it for work purpose, even the 4460 is also enough for gaming.
As for SSD, Kingston V300 series is not recommended because Kingston replaced the NAND parts with cheaper parts which significantly reduced the performance. As for PSU, get a good quality Seasonic S12II 620W at same price.

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 699
Asrock H97M Pro4 - RM 339
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
Seasonic S12II 620W PSU - RM 339
Bitfenix Prodigy M - RM 339

Total: RM 2374 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

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thanks for the feedback guys!
since my initial budget was 2k,
i thought it was good to max cheapest 240gb ssd,
which in turn is not the wisest choice thanks to your suggestion notworthy.gif

so im thinking of opting only 120gb ssd, mainly for booting my OS
any recommendation? hmm.gif
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thanks for the feedback guys!
since my initial budget was 2k,
i thought it was good to max cheapest 240gb ssd,
which in turn is not the wisest choice thanks to your suggestion notworthy.gif

so im thinking of opting only 120gb ssd, mainly for booting my OS
any recommendation? hmm.gif
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Liteon 900S 128GB RM269.. brows.gif
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Ok so after thinking it through and through I was thinking of either a R9 270 or the R7 260. Will it be good enough to be powered by the FSP 450+?

Quite scared actually. I just hope it can be managed. Since I'm only going to use these cards for only a couple of month before getting another rig later this year.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 16 2015, 11:27 PM)
Ok so after thinking it through and through I was thinking of either a R9 270 or the R7 260. Will it be good enough to be powered by the FSP 450+?

Quite scared actually. I just hope it can be managed. Since I'm only going to use these cards for only a couple of month before getting another rig later this year.
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Hmm,should be fine.Will be on the edge,though.I'd suggest GTX750Ti if you want to be safe. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 16 2015, 11:31 PM)
Hmm,should be fine.Will be on the edge,though.I'd suggest GTX750Ti if you want to be safe. wink.gif
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No free game mang, 260X can get 2 free game doe. Too much on the edge or barely?
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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 16 2015, 11:32 PM)
No free game mang, 260X can get 2 free game doe. Too much on the edge or barely?
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I thought you NVidia fanboy. whistling.gif

Idk,i'd say not too much but should be alright.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 16 2015, 11:45 PM)
I thought you NVidia fanboy. whistling.gif

Idk,i'd say not too much but should be alright.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7503/the-amd...eat-asus-his/16
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Can someone recommend a Fast and Reliable SSD under the budget of RM600?

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Liteon S900 series is not a bad choice. 256GB at RM 429.
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Liteon S900 series is not a bad choice. 256GB at RM 429.
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but i thought the write speed is much much slower compared to others?
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but i thought the write speed is much much slower compared to others?
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Liteon is best for the buck for cheap and reliable SSD. If you want to max out your RM 600 budget, look for Samsung 850 EVO or Intel 530 series, their prices are almost the same, but the so-said extra 100MB+/- write speed is not really worth my money whistling.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 17 2015, 01:44 AM)
Liteon is best for the buck for cheap and reliable SSD. If you want to max out your RM 600 budget, look for Samsung 850 EVO or Intel 530 series, their prices are almost the same, but the so-said extra 100MB+/- write speed is not really worth my money  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(LimitEDition @ May 17 2015, 09:31 AM)
Hi sifuus need your help

Budget RM3.5
Gaming purpose [want to play BF4, witcher III, gtaV smoothly]
Perferably nVidia gfx [personal preference]
KL

Planning to get monitor BenQ XL27 later.

Thank you
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Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM954
Asrock H97-Pro4 RM348.74
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1271
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34
Total:RM3530.08
Prices of the CPU,MoBo and CPU Cooler are from Jayacom@LYP,GPU is from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif
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Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM954
Asrock H97-Pro4 RM348.74
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1271
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34
Total:RM3530.08
Prices of the CPU,MoBo and CPU Cooler are from Jayacom@LYP,GPU is from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif
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I'll add up few other stuff (like ssd / liquid cooling) it should be <4k. nod.gif
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QUOTE(karthyhu @ May 15 2015, 02:44 PM)
Hi Guys,

Opinions needed.  rclxms.gif

Spec 1

CM Elite 120 Advanced
Asus J1900I-C 
Kingston 8gb SoDimm
Logitech MK240

Spec 2

CM Elite 120 Advanced
Intel G3240 
Asrock H81M-ITX
Kingston 8gb Dimm
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intend to use as a htpc for watching movies , torrenting , downloading and browser games.
it wont be on 24/7 . for torrenting / download mostly is when im sleeping.

i have a unused graphic card ( forgot model could be hd5450 ) , a 3tb hd and a 5.1speaker

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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 16 2015, 11:27 PM)
Ok so after thinking it through and through I was thinking of either a R9 270 or the R7 260. Will it be good enough to be powered by the FSP 450+?

Quite scared actually. I just hope it can be managed. Since I'm only going to use these cards for only a couple of month before getting another rig later this year.
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u abandon the gtx750ti GS liao?
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u abandon the gtx750ti GS liao?
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If it's for Skem Sitizen then no regret . Atleast the 260X is on par with 750 Ti. As Nfanboy I've failed myself.

Don't know why got reported. Maybe I'll edit some word.

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I need your help looking for replacement for my 8 years old home PC. Main users are my siblings (18yr-25yrs old siblings):

Budget: Max RM 1.6k

Purpose: All-in-one regular rig

Hardwares that will be re-use: Monitor, speaker, mouse, keyboard. Graphic Card AMD Radeon HD7xxx series.

Monitor resolution: 1280 x 1024 max. Still using big old CRT 21" monitor.

Games & softwares that use frequently: Anime-like MMORPG, Adobe Photoshop, Office.

Personal preferences: Anti-surge & humidity protection for PC hardware. Windows 8 ready spec.

Location: Rig to be located at Terengganu. I can go to KL to find stuff

Thanx

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QUOTE(LimitEDition @ May 17 2015, 10:41 AM)
Tq  thumbup.gif
I'll add up few other stuff (like ssd / liquid cooling) it should be <4k.  nod.gif
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For SSD.

Liteon 900S 128GB RM269/256GB RM429 brows.gif

Are you going for AIO water cooling or custom?Custom will cost you a bomb. tongue.gif Plus not all water cooler beats an air cooler.
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Since they are both around the same price, would you go for:
1) Xeon E3-1231 V3
or
2)i5-4690k

for gaming?
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QUOTE(dark_report @ May 17 2015, 12:37 PM)
Hi guys,
I need your help looking for replacement for my 8 years old home PC. Main users are my siblings (18yr-25yrs old siblings):

Budget: Max RM 1.6k

Purpose: All-in-one regular rig

Hardwares that will be re-use: Monitor, speaker, mouse, keyboard. Graphic Card AMD Radeon HD7xxx series.

Monitor resolution: 1280 x 1024 max. Still using big old CRT 21" monitor.

Games & softwares that use frequently: Anime-like MMORPG, Adobe Photoshop, Office.

Personal preferences: Anti-surge & humidity protection for PC hardware. Windows 8 ready spec.

Location: Rig to be located at Terengganu. I can go to KL to find stuff

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Which HD7xxx series GPU do you've?HD7850?HD7870? hmm.gif

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM676.28
MSI B85M-E33 RM232.14
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199'
FSP Hexa+ 550W RM199
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Total:RM1670.42
Prices of the CPU and MoBo are from Jayacom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Umm,Terengganu to KL is kinda far.. sweat.gif Another option is this..order from IdealTech.They provide shipping. nod.gif

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM675
Asrock H81M-VG4 RM179
GSkill Aegis 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM249
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
FSP Hexa+ 550W RM179
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Total:RM1616
Prices are from IdealTech. smile.gif

I've no idea which anti-surge protection thingy is great.No idea on those stuffs.Haven't heard of "humidity protection" too.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(jangyelo @ May 17 2015, 02:05 PM)
Since they are both around the same price, would you go for:
1) Xeon E3-1231 V3
or
2)i5-4690k

for gaming?
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Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 all the way!
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 17 2015, 02:15 PM)
Which HD7xxx series GPU do you've?HD7850?HD7870? hmm.gif

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM676.28
MSI B85M-E33 RM232.14
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199'
FSP Hexa+ 550W RM199
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Total:RM1670.42
Prices of the CPU and MoBo are from Jayacom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Umm,Terengganu to KL is kinda far.. sweat.gif Another option is this..order from IdealTech.They provide shipping. nod.gif

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM675
Asrock H81M-VG4 RM179
GSkill Aegis 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM249
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
FSP Hexa+ 550W RM179
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Total:RM1616
Prices are from IdealTech. smile.gif

I've no idea which anti-surge protection thingy is great.No idea on those stuffs.Haven't heard of "humidity protection" too.. sweat.gif
Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 all the way!
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thanks a lot, bro...
ops, sorry my mistake..it's not HD7xxx, but HD6870.
i thought high humidity would cause MoBo to short-circuit in long time? afraid that Mobo will have shorter lifespan after year-end monsoon season. once per month I will drive to KL, so its OK to bring it myself

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Sorry Sifu... My MOBO - Asrock B85M HDS and MSI GTX970 having issue with my Reuse monitor Samsung 732NPLUS W which only support old VGA cable !

Any idea how to solve this problem?

Thanks

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 17 2015, 01:31 PM)
For SSD.

Liteon 900S 128GB RM269/256GB RM429 brows.gif

Are you going for AIO water cooling or custom?Custom will cost you a bomb. tongue.gif Plus not all water cooler beats an air cooler.
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AIO water cooler.. nod.gif

current rig already bsod 3 times last 48hours..
time to upgrade
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QUOTE(ahgan91 @ May 17 2015, 02:58 PM)
Sorry Sifu... My MOBO  - Asrock B85M HDS and MSI GTX970 having issue with my Reuse monitor Samsung 732NPLUS W which only support old VGA cable !

Any idea how to solve this problem?

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Get a DVI to VGA adapter, sometimes its bundled together with the graphic card.
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DVI-I port of your GPU should support analog signal and compatible with VGA.
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hi guys, how does liquid cooler work? do i have to add or change the liquid everytime?
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QUOTE(EUPH0RIA @ May 17 2015, 09:37 PM)
hi guys, how does liquid cooler work? do i have to add or change the liquid everytime?
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Hi Guys, recently my 6 years old rig is... erm unstable. So may be it's time to change, may I ask for few questions? (My current rig is in sig, all are 6 years old except G-card)

It's a gaming rig:

1. Is it worth to invest DDR4 rig? (i7-5XXX and mobo)
2. If change, is GTX 970 more than enough or shall I wait for 980ti?
3. I'm simple gamer, so wont do much overclock, so no point buying the intel k series CPU?
4. I already have an 240GB SSD + an good old 1TB hd. Is it worth to replace the hd with fusion drive? Is SSD+fusion drive better than SSD+normal hd? (reason is I like to install game on the other hd, and will finish it before start next game)

I will plan my budget according to the feedback. (that means how long shall I starve to save up the $$)

Thanks in advance guys! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 17 2015, 10:24 PM)
Hi Guys, recently my 6 years old rig is... erm unstable. So may be it's time to change, may I ask for few questions? (My current rig is in sig, all are 6 years old except G-card)

It's a gaming rig:

1.  Is it worth to invest DDR4 rig? (i7-5XXX and mobo)
2.  If change, is GTX 970 more than enough or shall I wait for 980ti?
3.  I'm simple gamer, so wont do much overclock, so no point buying the intel k series CPU?

I will plan my budget according to the feedback. (that means how long shall I starve to save up the $$)

Thanks in advance guys!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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1)depends, if for gaming the normal i7 is enuf imo, but if for productivity, you might benefit from upgrading to the gen.
2)If you're not desperate , I suggest wait, with the new amd cards coming out around the corner , there could be substantial improvement coming from them.
3)yeah , there's no point buying the k cpu if you're not overclocking.

Hmm, what sorts of instability do you experience? how old is the psu btw?
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 17 2015, 10:24 PM)
Hi Guys, recently my 6 years old rig is... erm unstable. So may be it's time to change, may I ask for few questions? (My current rig is in sig, all are 6 years old except G-card)

It's a gaming rig:

1.  Is it worth to invest DDR4 rig? (i7-5XXX and mobo)
2.  If change, is GTX 970 more than enough or shall I wait for 980ti?
3.  I'm simple gamer, so wont do much overclock, so no point buying the intel k series CPU?

I will plan my budget according to the feedback. (that means how long shall I starve to save up the $$)

Thanks in advance guys!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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X99 rig which uses DDR4 RAM is not cheap now and you say you are not doing much overclock so just get normal locked i5 or Xeon will do. If playing on 1080p, GTX970 is enough.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 17 2015, 10:37 PM)
1)depends, if for gaming the normal i7 is enuf imo, but if for productivity, you might benefit from upgrading to the gen.
2)If you're not desperate , I suggest wait, with the new amd cards coming out around the corner , there could be substantial improvement coming from them.
3)yeah , there's no point buying the k cpu if you're not overclocking.

Hmm, what sorts of instability do you experience? how old is the psu btw?
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Thanks bro!

PSU a bit younger, may be 4 years old? (Changed once)

Instability as in suddenly entire PC freeze, can't be restarted. (If press restart button the comp will keep on and off but nothing shows up) Need to unplug, wait for 1 minute then on again.

Actually as long as my rig can tahan, I don't mind wait for a while for new G-card come out. (also I will definitely buy a smaller PSU, many ppl said my PSU is overkill and waste lots of power)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 17 2015, 10:39 PM)
X99 rig which uses DDR4 RAM is not cheap now and you say you are not doing much overclock so just get normal locked i5 or Xeon will do. If playing on 1080p, GTX970 is enough.
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Oh may I add 2 more questions?

4. I already have an 240GB SSD + an good old 1TB hd. Is it worth to replace the hd with fusion drive? Is SSD+fusion drive better than SSD+normal hd? (reason is I like to install game on the other hd, and will finish it before start next game)

5. How many of you are using branded PC set? (like asus ROG) Worth it? (I notice they give some sort of mid-range gear but price seems ok)
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 17 2015, 10:40 PM)
Thanks bro!

PSU a bit younger, may be 4 years old? (Changed once)

Instability as in suddenly entire PC freeze, can't be restarted. (If press restart button the comp will keep on and off but nothing shows up) Need to unplug, wait for 1 minute then on again.

Actually as long as my rig can tahan, I don't mind wait for a while for new G-card come out. (also I will definitely buy a smaller PSU, many ppl said my PSU is overkill and waste lots of power)
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Probably the culprit could be the psu, could be bad capacitors since you need to uplug and wait for 1 minute(capacitor discharge) , its my assumption anyway but worth the try if you can get your hand on a new psu.

Its ok buying a psu with high power rating since it allows more headroom and allows the psu to run a bit cooler thus prolong the lifespan of it. But yeah since you're not hitting the power rating, the efficiency could go down slightly but its a give or take situation icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 17 2015, 10:24 PM)
Hi Guys, recently my 6 years old rig is... erm unstable. So may be it's time to change, may I ask for few questions? (My current rig is in sig, all are 6 years old except G-card)

It's a gaming rig:

1. Is it worth to invest DDR4 rig? (i7-5XXX and mobo)
2. If change, is GTX 970 more than enough or shall I wait for 980ti?
3. I'm simple gamer, so wont do much overclock, so no point buying the intel k series CPU?
4. I already have an 240GB SSD + an good old 1TB hd. Is it worth to replace the hd with fusion drive? Is SSD+fusion drive better than SSD+normal hd? (reason is I like to install game on the other hd, and will finish it before start next game)

I will plan my budget according to the feedback. (that means how long shall I starve to save up the $$)

Thanks in advance guys!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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1. If you are power users and often do heavy rendering, you can consider 5820k as it is just a tad more pricy than 4790k, but it is hexacore vs quadcore of 4790k. But mind you, it not going to be helpful in gaming much (any time soon) and you probably need some overclocking to match the clockspeed of normal i5/i7. Other than that, an entry Haswell-E rig will cost just a little over high end 4790k built (I assume you getting value DDR4 RAM).

2. 970 is a mid high range card which is surprisingly powerful for its price and a beast for 1080p gaming. But as always, if you have the money to burn, the more powerful the better. But practical wise, I will say grab a 970 now and speculate how things develop in the next couple of months (AMD R9 300 series and Nvidia 980TI).

3. Yup, k series is for overclocking. And generally, overclocking don't provide much gaming performance improvement as long as the clock is over 3.5Ghz. Example, gaming wise, i5 4460 probably can handle what i5 4690k can handle.

4. Seperate drive is cheaper and easier to maintain. Hybrid drive is for laptop which having limited HDD bay. It is not a concern (generally) for desktop users.

Budget wise, I will say 4k for rig along provide you with a pretty solid specs for gaming.
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 17 2015, 10:40 PM)
Thanks bro!

PSU a bit younger, may be 4 years old? (Changed once)

Instability as in suddenly entire PC freeze, can't be restarted. (If press restart button the comp will keep on and off but nothing shows up) Need to unplug, wait for 1 minute then on again.

Actually as long as my rig can tahan, I don't mind wait for a while for new G-card come out. (also I will definitely buy a smaller PSU, many ppl said my PSU is overkill and waste lots of power)
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The durability or reliability of components are largely depend on your luck. The best you can help it is to operate them under cooler temperature and a solid and reliable power supply, that's all you can do. Also try to find parts with longer warranty. Many parts do have warranty of 2-3 years.

As for the PSU, you have a misconception there. A 1kW PSU doesn't mean it consume 1kW at all time. It just mean it can support up to 1kW. What it consume is still depend on the components you run and its efficiency. A system total power consumption of 400W on a 80% efficient PSU will draw 500W from your wall socket.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 17 2015, 10:52 PM)
Probably the culprit could be the psu, could be bad capacitors since you need to uplug and wait for 1 minute(capacitor discharge) , its my assumption anyway but worth the try if you can get your hand on a new psu.

Its ok buying a psu with high power rating since it allows more headroom and allows the psu to run a bit cooler thus prolong the lifespan of it. But yeah since you're not hitting the power rating, the efficiency could go down slightly but its a give or take situation  icon_rolleyes.gif
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U know what, speaking of it my comp was shutdown just now. After turn back on left only 2GB ram... (was 6GB ram, typical X58 board problem... doh.gif )

QUOTE(Human10 @ May 17 2015, 11:05 PM)
1. If you are power users and often do heavy rendering, you can consider 5820k as it is just a tad more pricy than 4790k, but it is hexacore vs quadcore of 4790k. But mind you, it not going to be helpful in gaming much (any time soon) and you probably need some overclocking to match the clockspeed of normal i5/i7. Other than that, an entry Haswell-E rig will cost just a little over high end 4790k built (I assume you getting value DDR4 RAM).

2. 970 is a mid high range card which is surprisingly powerful for its price and a beast for 1080p gaming. But as always, if you have the money to burn, the more powerful the better. But practical wise, I will say grab a 970 now and speculate how things develop in the next couple of months (AMD R9 300 series and Nvidia 980TI).

3. Yup, k series is for overclocking. And generally, overclocking don't provide much gaming performance improvement as long as the clock is over 3.5Ghz. Example, gaming wise, i5 4460 probably can handle what i5 4690k can handle.

4. Seperate drive is cheaper and easier to maintain. Hybrid drive is for laptop which having limited HDD bay. It is not a concern (generally) for desktop users.

Budget wise, I will say 4k for rig along provide you with a pretty solid specs for gaming.
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Thank you!

Actually, I'm finding and excuse not to go with DDR4 ram, the price (mobo + CPU + ram) is twice the current one...

I really hope my rig can tahan a bit so I can save up for 980ti.
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 17 2015, 10:43 PM)
Oh may I add 2 more questions?

4. I already have an 240GB SSD + an good old 1TB hd. Is it worth to replace the hd with fusion drive? Is SSD+fusion drive better than SSD+normal hd? (reason is I like to install game on the other hd, and will finish it before start next game)

5.  How many of you are using branded PC set? (like asus ROG) Worth it? (I notice they give some sort of mid-range gear but price seems ok)
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You can get cheaper and more optimised specs with custom build as compared to branded prebuild. Custom build also easier to maintain and upgrade as each parts function and warranty independent from another. For example, mobo bios update from mobo from vendors will be more often than branded prebuild.

Another thing to note is different brands have different brand reputation and different price. Generally Asus, gigabyte and MSI will be priced on the high side as compared to other brands.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 17 2015, 11:18 PM)
You can get cheaper and more optimised specs with custom build as compared to branded prebuild. Custom build also easier to maintain and upgrade as each parts function and warranty independent from another. For example, mobo bios update from mobo from vendors will be more often than branded prebuild.

Another thing to note is different brands have different brand reputation and different price. Generally Asus, gigabyte and MSI will be priced on the high side as compared to other brands.
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Ok I will build it myself then. Anyway refer to your earlier comment:

- so Hybrid drive will not help me in anyway in terms of gaming? (Let's say, use my existing SSD as O/S drive, and hybrid drive to store whatever and game installation)

I check around the web, looks like most of the gamer are suggesting 4690 as best value CPU, hm... I probably go with this. (Or pay a little more for 4790) Now all I need is patiently wait for 980ti's info. (or any chances for 970ti? drool.gif )
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 18 2015, 01:27 AM)
Ok I will build it myself then. Anyway refer to your earlier comment:

- so Hybrid drive will not help me in anyway in terms of gaming? (Let's say, use my existing SSD as O/S drive, and hybrid drive to store whatever and game installation)

I check around the web, looks like most of the gamer are suggesting 4690 as best value CPU, hm... I probably go with this. (Or pay a little more for 4790) Now all I need is patiently wait for 980ti's info. (or any chances for 970ti?  drool.gif )
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Gaming performance has nothing to do with SSD/HDD performance.It won't boost nor reduce FPS. tongue.gif

Most of the gamers suggesting i5 4690 is still the best CPU,but for me,Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 is the best bang for buck.Games are taking advantage of more cores and threads..the latter has 4 cores and 8 threads,the former has 4 cores and 4 threads.

So far,there are no rumours about GTX970Ti.

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 18 2015, 01:27 AM)
Ok I will build it myself then. Anyway refer to your earlier comment:

- so Hybrid drive will not help me in anyway in terms of gaming? (Let's say, use my existing SSD as O/S drive, and hybrid drive to store whatever and game installation)

I check around the web, looks like most of the gamer are suggesting 4690 as best value CPU, hm... I probably go with this. (Or pay a little more for 4790) Now all I need is patiently wait for 980ti's info. (or any chances for 970ti?  drool.gif )
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Anything you can do on hybrid drive you can do it on SSD + HDD combo too. The best of course is install the game directly onto SSD, but if that isn't possible, some sorts of caching will help a little than purely install on HDD.

Cause many of them opt for overclocking build, and 4690k is the cheapest available. For us, we must pay about RM1k extra (different CPU, mono and 3rd party cooler) to change from non-OC i5 build to OC build, the marginal gain on gaming performance certainly don't justify the RM1k premium. Another thing is their price gapping don't seems as steep as ours. I7 is now almost double that of 4460, before all this price hike or GST saga, it is certainly less than that. Retailers know i7 is premium stuffs and people who planned to get one wouldn't be bothered by few hundreds extra. In short, but you see on the Internet may not be applicable directly on our local market.

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Gaming performance has nothing to do with SSD/HDD performance.It won't boost nor reduce FPS. tongue.gif
It will still help with loading times right?
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It will still help with loading times right?
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QUOTE(kappaweng @ May 18 2015, 06:11 PM)
[Budget] RM3.5k~4k

[Purpose]
-Gaming, Graphic Design

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
-No hardwares to be reuse

[Monitor resolution]
-1366x768

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
-Dota2, Farcry4, Shadow of Mordor, Adobe AI and PS

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-Budget included a normal/average monitor
-Prefer at least 8 gb Ram

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 17 2015, 08:59 PM)
Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM954
Asrock H97-Pro4 RM348.74
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1271
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
BenQ GL2460HM 24" RM579
Total:RM4014.74
Optional:CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34
Prices of the CPU,MoBo and optional CPU Cooler are from Jayacom@LYP,GPU is from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 18 2015, 05:42 AM)
Gaming performance has nothing to do with SSD/HDD performance.It won't boost nor reduce FPS. tongue.gif

Most of the gamers suggesting i5 4690 is still the best CPU,but for me,Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 is the best bang for buck.Games are taking advantage of more cores and threads..the latter has 4 cores and 8 threads,the former has 4 cores and 4 threads.

So far,there are no rumours about GTX970Ti.
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Thank you! In this case I might consider i7... (4790, non-k, since I'm not buying it every month, mah as well invest a bit)

QUOTE(Human10 @ May 18 2015, 07:34 AM)
Anything you can do on hybrid drive you can do it on SSD + HDD combo too. The best of course is install the game directly onto SSD, but if that isn't possible, some sorts of caching will help a little than purely install on HDD.

Cause many of them opt for overclocking build, and 4690k is the cheapest available. For us, we must pay about RM1k extra (different CPU, mono and 3rd party cooler) to change from non-OC i5 build to OC build, the marginal gain on gaming performance certainly don't justify the RM1k premium. Another thing is their price gapping don't seems as steep as ours. I7 is now almost double that of 4460, before all this price hike or GST saga, it is certainly less than that. Retailers know i7 is premium stuffs and people who planned to get one wouldn't be bothered by few hundreds extra. In short, but you see on the Internet may not be applicable directly on our local market.
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Oh that's very clear! So will stick to my SDSD+HDD combo. Now rumor are spreading around that 980ti will be end of this month, let's see then. cool.gif (Currently using 680, thinking upgrade to 970 is not that major that's why...)

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 18 2015, 09:16 PM)
Thank you! In this case I might consider i7... (4790, non-k, since I'm not buying it every month, mah as well invest a bit)
Oh that's very clear! So will stick to my SDSD+HDD combo. Now rumor are spreading around that 980ti will be end of this month, let's see then.  cool.gif (Currently using 680, thinking upgrade to 970 is not that major that's why...)
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Nah, my bet is we won't see 980TI until AMD's R9 390X is launched, that's the main reason for Nvidia to launch it.

680 and 970 is about 20-30% different in term of performance. The main reason 970 is recommended is for its price.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gp...970/performance
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 18 2015, 09:23 PM)
Nah, my bet is we won't see 980TI until AMD's R9 390X is launched, that's the main reason for Nvidia to launch it.

680 and 970 is about 20-30% different in term of performance. The main reason 970 is recommended is for its price.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gp...970/performance
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That's why I'm thinking to save up more for 980ti... (saw the "leaked" benchmark, only a little below Titan X)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 15 2015, 05:40 PM)
If you are using a mATX case, then you need to get mATX mobo, what Minecrafter suggested is an ATX mobo, so change it to H97M-Pro4 if want the same model or cheaper B85M-HDS.

If you buy all parts from them, no extra charge for assembling.
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Many thanks for your advise... kindly suggest me reliable and affordable VGA cooler from Viewnet ?

Thanks in advance
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Hello, thanks for the info, appreciate it, with these setup I can run pretty much most of the recent triple A games without many problems right?
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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ May 18 2015, 05:04 PM)
[Budget]
- RM3,000

[Purpose]
- 3D design & rendering

[Monitor resolution]
- 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
- After Effect, Premier Pro, Cinema4D, 3Ds Max

[Personal preferences]
- Budget include keyboard & mouse(probably will settle with RM50 Logitech set), and also 23" monitor(probably Dell E series?).
- Minimum spending on casing, probably will settle with CM Elite 311.
- No need DVD Rom

[Location]
- Penang(probably will settle everything in Swisspac)
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 689
Gigabyte B85M-HD3 - RM 294
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 237
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 214
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 504
Corsair VS450 - RM 171
CM Elite 311 - RM 163
Dell E2414H - RM 624

Total: RM 2896 (Swisspac price inclusive of GST)

Less hardware choice if you choose to buy all parts from Swisspac, you could get a Xeon build with 3k budget but they don not carry this processor, if you do not mind to get from KL, can try Idealtech, they have free shipping for 3k rig and above.

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Many thanks for your advise... kindly suggest me reliable and affordable VGA cooler from Viewnet ?

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VGA cooler? Stock is fine unless you have extra budget for liquid cooling for your GPU.

QUOTE(kappaweng @ May 19 2015, 12:45 AM)
Hello, thanks for the info, appreciate it, with these setup I can run pretty much most of the recent triple A games without many problems right?
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Can run, but the playable settings and frame rate are totally depending on developer's optimization on the game.
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Can run, but the playable settings and frame rate are totally depending on developer's optimization on the game.
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As far I see, only Idealtech onli have sell GPU cooler ? Wanna buy from them but they charges labour charges for installation...

Btw, Excellent Customer Service from Idealtech.

Viewnet have sell the GPU cooler ?


Thanks

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Hello, thanks for the info, appreciate it, with these setup I can run pretty much most of the recent triple A games without many problems right?
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That't pretty much the most you can squeeze out of a 4k budget.

Performance wise, on 1080p its easy peasy, unless the game is a seriously sucks console ports.
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The liquid cooler for GPU average how much ar ? Haha...

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Similar to CPU there's two type, one is AIO while another is waterblock with custom loop.

AIO build should cost what an AIO will cost + the NZXT Kraken kraken G10 for make it copatible. But unlike CPU cooling which is easy, direct and spot on, on some situations, it is not recommended to use AIO cooling on GPU. AIO only can cool the cheap, not other components on the board. One such example is when the VRM is running extremely hot (such as the case of R9 290X last time), as unlike stock cooler, it don't have efficient heatsink connected to it to cool them down.

For custom loop, I can't commend much since I don't own one before, but I can promise to you, it won't be cheap.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 19 2015, 12:21 PM)
Similar to CPU there's two type, one is AIO while another is waterblock with custom loop.

AIO build should cost what an AIO will cost + the NZXT Kraken kraken G10 for make it copatible. But unlike CPU cooling which is easy, direct and spot on, on some situations, it is not recommended to use AIO cooling on GPU. AIO only can cool the cheap, not other components on the board. One such example is when the VRM is running extremely hot (such as the case of R9 290X last time), as unlike stock cooler, it don't have efficient heatsink connected to it to cool them down.

For custom loop, I can't commend much since I don't own one before, but I can promise to you, it won't be cheap.
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ok then i forget the cooler... many thanks it help lots..
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I have a budget of 3.5k. I would only want a 960 but if u think its appropriate to have a 970, then why not. So two suggestions, one with 960 and one with 970 is more than welcome. Btw, im not a heavy gamer guy. I would like to have a very smooth pc. I do not need any peripherals. I am also hoping to have a theme for the pc. Maybe black and red or any other combo. I am using it for autocad and other enginering software. Not looking to OC.

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Hi everyone! First time following this thread and got to learn a lot of stuff. I would like to build a rig ( I've been a laptop gamer my whole life ) that would last me quite a while. Since I'm still new to getting to know about desktop parts, pls forgive me for asking too many questions.

[Budget] - 16-20k

[Purpose] Gaming ( Long term ) with occassional photoshop + render

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution] 4k Ultra, prefer 2 monitor ( 1 big, 1 small )

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam games - Dota 2, Project CARS, Crysis Software - PS, 3Dmax, words

[Personal preferences]
Monitor - Looking at Dell U3415W Curve monitor along with a smaller side monitor ( 24")

GPU - I'm pondering between Titan X ( single or SLI ) and also GTX980. As mentioned in this thread, games later on might require more VRAM, what is a better option for a long term such as 5-7 years from now.

Processor - Prefer i7

MOBO - For such a build, what is a recommended MOBO?

Soundcard - Would like to add one.

RAM - 16GB

Addling CPU and GPU coolers.

Will be going for a a full tower build.

[Location] Penang. But don't mind travelling for the purchase.

For a rig like this what are the main concerns I should be more aware of? Will it eat up a lot of power?

Thank you for any replies in advance =)
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QUOTE(alvinang @ May 19 2015, 12:31 PM)
Hi everyone! First time following this thread and got to learn a lot of stuff. I would like to build a rig ( I've been a laptop gamer my whole life ) that would last me quite a while. Since I'm still new to getting to know about desktop parts, pls forgive me for asking too many questions.

[Budget] - 16-20k

[Purpose] Gaming ( Long term ) with occassional photoshop + render

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution] 4k Ultra, prefer 2 monitor ( 1 big, 1 small )

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam games - Dota 2, Project CARS, Crysis   Software - PS, 3Dmax, words

[Personal preferences]
Monitor - Looking at Dell U3415W Curve monitor along with a smaller side monitor ( 24")

GPU - I'm pondering between Titan X ( single or SLI ) and also GTX980. As mentioned in this thread, games later on might require more VRAM, what is a better option for a long term such as 5-7 years from now.

Processor - Prefer i7

MOBO - For such a build, what is a recommended MOBO?

Soundcard - Would like to add one.

RAM - 16GB

Addling CPU and GPU coolers.

Will be going for a a full tower build.

[Location] Penang. But don't mind travelling for the purchase.

For a rig like this what are the main concerns I should be more aware of? Will it eat up a lot of power?

Thank you for any replies in advance =)
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Oh, see the budget and my commend "it gonna be fun"... whistling.gif

Well, I can advice you this thread is not really for people with such budget, directly contact those high end custom build sellers like drivenheat, APES, Idealtech and so on, you can't go wrong with anything at the budget... sweat.gif

But before that, just incase they suggest you random stuffs, tell them that you want a Haswell-E (Enthusiast), DDR4 and Intel X99 mobo rig, they will do the rest for you.

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Oh, see the budget and my commend "it gonna be fun"... whistling.gif

Well, I can advice you this thread is not really for people with such budget, directly contact those high end custom build sellers like drivenheat, APES, Idealtech and so on, you can't go wrong with anything at the budget... sweat.gif
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Okay biggrin.gif will contact them for arrangements. Thank you.
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Okay biggrin.gif will contact them for arrangements. Thank you.
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But before that, just incase they suggest you random stuffs, tell them that you want a Haswell-E (Enthusiast), DDR4 RAM and Intel X99 mobo rig, they will do the rest for you.

Also, some extra words of advice. You can pretty much build a really high end and powerful RIG with the budget but that doesn't mean it will stay as powerful in 5 or more years to go. Upgrading and optimizing parts from time to time according to your needs will usually pay off better than getting an end game specs monster PC now and hope it last for 5 to 10 years.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 19 2015, 11:17 AM)
That't pretty much the most you can squeeze out of a 4k budget.

Performance wise, on 1080p its easy peasy, unless the game is a seriously sucks console ports.
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Hello, thanks again, and sorry I have some questions again.
-How big is the differences if I go for the CM Hyper TX3 Evo (RM98) instead of the Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular (RM299)?
-Personally I dont really care about the size as long as it's Full HD, is it BenQ 21.5" GW2255HM good enough for the performance?
-Do Jayacom(or any store) sell all the listed items and provide assembling service?
-From my budget, do you think SSD is necessary?

I'm an outsider, never really build a rig before, forgive me if the question is dumb
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Hello, thanks again, and sorry I have some questions again.
-How big is the differences if I go for the CM Hyper TX3 Evo (RM98) instead of the Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular (RM299)?
-Personally I dont really care about the size as long as it's Full HD, is it BenQ 21.5" GW2255HM good enough for the performance?
-Do Jayacom(or any store) sell all the listed items and provide assembling service?
-From my budget, do you think SSD is necessary?

I'm an outsider, never really build a rig before, forgive me if the question is dumb
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1st, you have some misconception here. The CM TX3 is a CPU cooler (optional), while the Seasonic is the power supply (essential). You can't compare them. The TX3 is optional because when you buy the CPU, it come with a stock heatsink which is not spectacular in performance but non the less, no problem get works done most of the time.The Seasonic PSU which cost RM300 is among the most recommended for the specs quoted. Yes, technically you can run it on a random cap palang PSU which cost under RM100, but it can be risky, fail prematurely and damaging your parts in some cases.

2nd, as for the monitor, yup it is FHD. As for performance, I think it is hard to describe something visual on paper. It's best you go to the store and experience yourself. I personally is one picky man especially when come to visual things which I need to deal with everyday, that's why I pay extra for my monitor (U2414H just incase you want to know).

The quotation is obtained through multiple stores IINM, if you want to get it done in one store, you gonna nego with them to cut down some costs to fit in the bill. Generally, a shop can assemble for you if you purchase most parts (especially mobo, PSU, case and CPU) from them. Try buy other parts first and bring in and request them to assemble.

What is the quote already? (sorry that aren't exactly my quote, I can't recall details clearly). But I will repeat what I said, the quote is pretty much the best performing one you can get within a 4k budget without cheaping out on parts.

Edited: The build can't manage to fit in a SSD with the budget. Our priority here is performance first, luxury later. You can always add in one in future. If you seriously still prefer to fit in a SSD, you can forgo the Xeon and opt for an i5 4460, that shall save you some bucks just enough to fit in a cheap SSD.

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QUOTE(ahgan91 @ May 19 2015, 10:30 AM)
As far I see, only Idealtech onli have sell GPU cooler ? Wanna buy from them but they charges labour charges for installation...

Btw, Excellent Customer Service from Idealtech.

Viewnet have sell the GPU cooler ?
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They do free installation..if you buy all the parts from them. wink.gif

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Motherboard Asrock H97 pro4 318
RAM D3 1600Mhz kingston 210
Graphics card zotac gtx970 1199
HDD 1TB Caviar Blue from Czone 191
Casing Versa H21/ H22/ H23 150
Power supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 720W 369

Total 3075

Hi, I am wondering if this is a good build and whether I can get cheaper prices or I can sacrifice some brands for cheaper alternatives.
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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 03:29 PM)
CPU Core i5-4460 638
Motherboard Asrock H97 pro4 318
RAM D3 1600Mhz kingston 210
Graphics card zotac gtx970 1199
HDD 1TB Caviar Blue from Czone 191
Casing Versa H21/ H22/ H23 150
Power supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 720W 369
 
Total  3075

Hi, I am wondering if this is a good build and whether I can get cheaper prices or I can sacrifice some brands for cheaper alternatives.
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You can donwgrade the mobo to Asrock B85M-HDS and change the PSU to a good quality one like Seasonic M/S12II series, this system doesn't need 720W, 500W will do.
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QUOTE(ikhwan1 @ May 19 2015, 12:17 PM)
Hye sifu,

I have a budget of 3.5k. I would only want a 960 but if u think its appropriate to have a 970, then why not. So two suggestions, one with 960 and one with 970 is more than welcome. Btw, im not a heavy gamer guy. I would like to have a very smooth pc. I do not need any peripherals. I am also hoping to have a theme for the pc. Maybe black and red or any other combo. I am using it for autocad and other enginering software. Not looking to OC.

Thank you smile.gif
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 954
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 348.74
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 222.60
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 reference - RM 1376.94
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W - RM 299
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 145

Total: RM 3536.02 (PSU and Chassis are from Viewnet, other parts from Jayacom inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 03:29 PM)
CPU Core i5-4460 638
Motherboard Asrock H97 pro4 318
RAM D3 1600Mhz kingston 210
Graphics card zotac gtx970 1199
HDD 1TB Caviar Blue from Czone 191
Casing Versa H21/ H22/ H23 150
Power supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 720W 369
 
Total  3075

Hi, I am wondering if this is a good build and whether I can get cheaper prices or I can sacrifice some brands for cheaper alternatives.
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everything look good expect psu which 12v rail come with 25A only which confirm able to boot the whole rig but i suggested at least Seasonic M12 II 620W EVO (Bronze) & should be around ur budget.
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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 04:29 PM)
CPU Core i5-4460 638
Motherboard Asrock H97 pro4 318
RAM D3 1600Mhz kingston 210
Graphics card zotac gtx970 1199
HDD 1TB Caviar Blue from Czone 191
Casing Versa H21/ H22/ H23 150
Power supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 720W 369
 
Total  3075

Hi, I am wondering if this is a good build and whether I can get cheaper prices or I can sacrifice some brands for cheaper alternatives.
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The price u get inclusive of GST?
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 19 2015, 02:04 PM)
But before that, just incase they suggest you random stuffs, tell them that you want a Haswell-E (Enthusiast), DDR4 RAM and Intel X99 mobo rig, they will do the rest for you.

Also, some extra words of advice. You can pretty much build a really high end and powerful RIG with the budget but that doesn't mean it will stay as powerful in 5 or more years to go. Upgrading and optimizing parts from time to time according to your needs will usually pay off better than getting an end game specs monster PC now and hope it last for 5 to 10 years.
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Will definitely be optimizing and putting in maintenance for the parts from time to time. Technology run so fast nowadays, new stuff keep popping up faster rclxub.gif but thanks for the advice. I need that kickstart to know what is good from the standard and stick on that guideline biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 19 2015, 03:53 PM)
You can donwgrade the mobo to Asrock B85M-HDS and change the PSU to a good quality one like Seasonic M/S12II series, this system doesn't need 720W, 500W will do.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 19 2015, 04:00 PM)
everything look good expect psu which 12v rail come with 25A only which confirm able to boot the whole rig but i suggested at least Seasonic M12 II 620W EVO (Bronze) & should be around ur budget.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys! I went to two shops in Digital Mall and both told me that minimum I would need 650 watts, reason being (one shop said), there's a degradation of watt over time and 650 watt is safe. They just won't let me get 620 watt seasonic (which I wanted initially). I chose Cooler Master Silent because it was on the list but it is out of stock.

Now I get a choice of either Thermaltake Toughpower 650 watt (80+Gold) or Silverstone Strider ST70F (700 watt). Both at the same price.

I am conflicted though. I would definitely prefer Seasonic M12 II 620W and it is within my budget. But both shops (one dont have seasonic, another has it but die die recommend 650 watts) are sure that 650 watts is needed.



QUOTE(ahgan91 @ May 19 2015, 04:34 PM)
The price u get inclusive of GST?
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Yes and no. GPU with GST, the others no.

For now the final price I have gotten is around RM3100-RM3200


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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 10:57 PM)
Thanks for the suggestions guys! I went to two shops in Digital Mall and both told me that minimum I would need 650 watts, reason being (one shop said), there's a degradation of watt over time and 650 watt is safe. They just won't let me get 620 watt seasonic (which I wanted initially). I chose Cooler Master Silent because it was on the list but it is out of stock.

Now I get a choice of either Thermaltake Toughpower 650 watt (80+Gold) or Silverstone Strider ST70F (700 watt). Both at the same price.

I am conflicted though. I would definitely prefer Seasonic M12 II 620W and it is within my budget. But both shops (one dont have seasonic, another has it but die die recommend 650 watts) are sure that 650 watts is needed.
Yes and no. GPU with GST, the others no.

For now the final price I have gotten is around RM3100-RM3200
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Which shop u went ? Outside where to get Zotac GTX970 with tat peice ? Mind to share ? Haha

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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 09:57 PM)
Thanks for the suggestions guys! I went to two shops in Digital Mall and both told me that minimum I would need 650 watts, reason being (one shop said), there's a degradation of watt over time and 650 watt is safe. They just won't let me get 620 watt seasonic (which I wanted initially). I chose Cooler Master Silent because it was on the list but it is out of stock.

Now I get a choice of either Thermaltake Toughpower 650 watt (80+Gold) or Silverstone Strider ST70F (700 watt). Both at the same price.

I am conflicted though. I would definitely prefer Seasonic M12 II 620W and it is within my budget. But both shops (one dont have seasonic, another has it but die die recommend 650 watts) are sure that 650 watts is needed.
Yes and no. GPU with GST, the others no.

For now the final price I have gotten is around RM3100-RM3200
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DM told u is true but if u got OC best is get more than 650w. FYI, both psu are under Tier 3 categories so with GTX 970 min requirement get under Tier 2 psu but if just this 2 choices then just take thermaltake one.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-254...-tier-list.html
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Which shop u went ? Outside where to get Zotac GTX970 with tat peice ? Mind to share ? Haha
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Cyntrix having warehouse sales. It's at that price. But they say they did not receive codes for batman rclxub.gif So not sure if really good deal or how.

QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 19 2015, 10:13 PM)
DM told u is true but if u got OC best is get more than 650w. FYI, both psu are under Tier 3 categories so with GTX 970 min requirement get under Tier 2 psu but if just this 2 choices then just take thermaltake one.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-254...-tier-list.html
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I am not planning to OC. Does that change what PSU i should get/

I was reading this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-...ew,2043-10.html
Seems like Strider wins though?
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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 10:18 PM)
Cyntrix having warehouse sales. It's at that price. But they say they did not receive codes for batman  rclxub.gif  So not sure if really good deal or how. 
I am not planning to OC. Does that change what PSU i should get/

I was reading this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-...ew,2043-10.html
Seems like Strider wins though?
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if that price then i understand y no batman already. consider quite a good deal. what i know gtx 970 must at least RM14xx only included 2 games but also if u're lucky enough. zotac got 3 yrs warranty from cyntrix & another 2 more zotac. if no mistake the last 2 yrs warranty by zotac so u ask carefully.

seriously PSU is very important so better get a good one. actually i won't even consider the 2 psu u mentioned. final decision depend on u.
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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 10:18 PM)
Cyntrix having warehouse sales. It's at that price. But they say they did not receive codes for batman  rclxub.gif  So not sure if really good deal or how. 
I am not planning to OC. Does that change what PSU i should get/

I was reading this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-...ew,2043-10.html
Seems like Strider wins though?
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Don't listen to seller, just buy the one you want, you are the one who pay for the product, not the one to clear their leftover stock, just get the Seasonic M12II Evo 520W, it's a good quality PSU, degradation is low. I am running an OC build + GTX970 and max load only draw less than 450W, if you are not going to OC, 520W is definitely enough. 650W and 620W is just a small 30W difference, obviously the seller is tricking you and wanted to clear his stock.

If cannot get in Digital Mall, can try Techview IT, also nearby PJ area.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 19 2015, 10:41 PM)
if that price then i understand y no batman already. consider quite a good deal. what i know gtx 970 must at least RM14xx only included 2 games but also if u're lucky enough. zotac got 3 yrs warranty from cyntrix & another 2 more zotac. if no mistake the last 2 yrs warranty by zotac so u ask carefully.

seriously PSU is very important so better get a good one. actually i won't even consider the 2 psu u mentioned. final decision depend on u.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 19 2015, 10:47 PM)
Don't listen to seller, just buy the one you want, you are the one who pay for the product, not the one to clear their leftover stock, just get the Seasonic M12II Evo 520W, it's a good quality PSU, degradation is low. I am running an OC build + GTX970 and max load only draw less than 450W, if you are not going to OC, 520W is definitely enough. 650W and 620W is just a small 30W difference, obviously the seller is tricking you and wanted to clear his stock.

If cannot get in Digital Mall, can try Techview IT, also nearby PJ area.
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Would you both recommend Superflower LEADEX 650W 80+ Silver, Full Modular - RM 379? It's from Cyntrix and I wouldn't mind going back there for it. :/


Source: https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...826875207350390


And demmit for no batman! Wanted to sell it to recuperate some losses. And yes, 5 years warranty through Cyntrix (because they will register warranty for us with Zotac)

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Would you both recommend Superflower LEADEX 650W 80+ Silver, Full Modular - RM 379? It's from Cyntrix and I wouldn't mind going back there for it. :/
Source: https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...826875207350390
And demmit for no batman! Wanted to sell it to recuperate some losses. And yes, 5 years warranty through Cyntrix (because they will register warranty for us with Zotac)
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Not a bad choice, Superflower PSU is quite high rated.
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 954
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 348.74
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 222.60
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 reference - RM 1376.94
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W - RM 299
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 145

Total: RM 3536.02 (PSU and Chassis are from Viewnet, other parts from Jayacom inclusive of GST)
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What changes can I make to make it below 3.5k. Bc I have to claim the money from my company. so i have to show the reciept that it is below 3.5k. and do you know which shop sell the reference 970, i really like the original design with the green geforce logo.
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What changes can I make to make it below 3.5k. Bc I have to claim the money from my company. so i have to show the reciept that it is below 3.5k. and do you know which shop sell the reference 970, i really like the original design with the green geforce logo.
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Get FSP Hexa 500w (if they're still sold) or maybe Enermax NAXN 550w or the CX430. This power supply's are below RM200.

That should do it.

Or you could just get a B85 motherboard for around RM220-290+-
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QUOTE(ikhwan1 @ May 19 2015, 11:43 PM)
What changes can I make to make it below 3.5k. Bc I have to claim the money from my company. so i have to show the reciept that it is below 3.5k. and do you know which shop sell the reference 970, i really like the original design with the green geforce logo.
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Does it require all items to be in a single receipt? If yes, then I have to tune the build a bit, if not necessary, you can get a cheaper case like Aerocool V3X RM105 so the total will become < 3.5k, downgrading PSU is not recommended.

And all the GTX970 reference models sold on Malaysia do not come with Titan design cooler, all are cheap plastic cover with the blower cooler only, if you really want to buy Titan style blower of GTX970, you might require extra efforts such as ordering from overseas but that would jack up the budget.
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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 11:13 PM)
Would you both recommend Superflower LEADEX 650W 80+ Silver, Full Modular - RM 379? It's from Cyntrix and I wouldn't mind going back there for it. :/
Source: https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...826875207350390
And demmit for no batman! Wanted to sell it to recuperate some losses. And yes, 5 years warranty through Cyntrix (because they will register warranty for us with Zotac)
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wise choice. i'm superflower fan.
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Hi all, my friend wants to build a PC, he has no preferred brands or color theme so anything goes. Hope the sifus here can recommend parts with quotation based on the details below.

Budget: RM3,500

Purpose: Video editing and gaming

Hardwares that will be re-used: Mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor, OS (basically everything except for the rig itself)

Monitor resolution: 1080p

Games & softwares that use frequently: Adobe Premiere, GTA 5, Dragom Age Inquisition, Far Cry 4

Personal preferences: Small form factor, as small as possible

Location: KL
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what is the best GPU now for range RM800-900?
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what is the best GPU now for range RM800-900?
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QUOTE(hooh888 @ May 20 2015, 12:41 AM)
Hi all, my friend wants to build a PC, he has no preferred brands or color theme so anything goes. Hope the sifus here can recommend parts with quotation based on the details below.

Budget: RM3,500

Purpose: Video editing and gaming

Hardwares that will be re-used: Mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor, OS (basically everything except for the rig itself)

Monitor resolution: 1080p

Games & softwares that use frequently: Adobe Premiere, GTA 5, Dragom Age Inquisition, Far Cry 4

Personal preferences: Small form factor, as small as possible

Location: KL
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 959
Asrock B85M-ITX - RM 329
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 1429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM 299
CM Elite 110 - RM 149

Total: RM 3583 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

If choose a longer case like CM Elite 120/130 at about the same price of CM Elite 110, then you can get the reference model of GTX970 at lower price so the total will be < 3.5k.
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QUOTE(hooh888 @ May 20 2015, 12:41 AM)
Hi all, my friend wants to build a PC, he has no preferred brands or color theme so anything goes. Hope the sifus here can recommend parts with quotation based on the details below.

Budget: RM3,500

Purpose: Video editing and gaming

Hardwares that will be re-used: Mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor, OS (basically everything except for the rig itself)

Monitor resolution: 1080p

Games & softwares that use frequently: Adobe Premiere, GTA 5, Dragom Age Inquisition, Far Cry 4

Personal preferences: Small form factor, as small as possible

Location: KL
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can try this:

cpu-Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3-RM953
mobo-Asrock B85M-ITX-RM338
memory-Corsair Value Ram 8GB-RM223
gpu-MSI GTX 960 Tiger-RM850
HDD-WD Blue 1TB-RM199
ssd-Liteon 900S 128GB-RM259
psu-Seasonic S12G 550W Gold rated-RM359
case-CoolerMaster 130itx-RM179

total-RM3360
Prices are all from Czone except the case.

This post has been edited by alfiejr: May 20 2015, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 20 2015, 12:55 AM)
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which one arr to choose?
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Just wanna ask..Seasonic M12II EVO 520W is enuff for r9 280?
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morning all the sifus in here, currently a console gamer for all my life, thinking of migrating to pc master race for gaming. im practically a noob in pc rig and all suggestion and is well appreciated beforehand.

[Budget]
RM4k max

[Purpose]
Pure gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Monitor, speaker, mouse, keyboard

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
all the latest games in the market, and future. other is only for watching movie.

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none.

[Location]
Sarawak

Thanx!
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 19 2015, 11:55 PM)
Does it require all items to be in a single receipt? If yes, then I have to tune the build a bit, if not necessary, you can get a cheaper case like Aerocool V3X RM105 so the total will become < 3.5k, downgrading PSU is not recommended.

And all the GTX970 reference models sold on Malaysia do not come with Titan design cooler, all are cheap plastic cover with the blower cooler only, if you really want to buy Titan style blower of GTX970, you might require extra efforts such as ordering from overseas but that would jack up the budget.
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Thanks about the infomation on the 970. I just check with my HR that they will only accept one reciept for the claim. So what kind of changes would u recommend from the suggestions?



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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 20 2015, 12:57 AM)
Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 959... -snip-
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Thanks for your suggestion, for a cramped build like this would the reference 970 be better temperatures-wise?

Off-topic: I noticed your build in your signature, should look very similar to mine, any build pics? Curious to see. tongue.gif

QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 20 2015, 01:14 AM)
can try this:

cpu-Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3-RM953... -snip-
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I forgot to mention in the request though, he prioritize HDD capacity over SSD's speed, so if I happen to use your list I will remove the SSD and get a larger hard drive. But either way thanks for your suggestion ya. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 19 2015, 11:55 PM)
Does it require all items to be in a single receipt? If yes, then I have to tune the build a bit, if not necessary, you can get a cheaper case like Aerocool V3X RM105 so the total will become < 3.5k, downgrading PSU is not recommended.

And all the GTX970 reference models sold on Malaysia do not come with Titan design cooler, all are cheap plastic cover with the blower cooler only, if you really want to buy Titan style blower of GTX970, you might require extra efforts such as ordering from overseas but that would jack up the budget.
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Contact those in garage sale with internal connection with Dell, they can land their hand on it, but it not going to be cheap, might as well get MSI tiger or other non-reference which is cheaper.
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 959
Asrock B85M-ITX - RM 329
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 1429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM 299
CM Elite 110 - RM 149

Total: RM 3583 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

If choose a longer case like CM Elite 120/130 at about the same price of CM Elite 110, then you can get the reference model of GTX970 at lower price so the total will be < 3.5k.
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It is viewnet, you can nego with them if you are paying by cash.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 19 2015, 11:43 PM)
Not a bad choice, Superflower PSU is quite high rated.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 20 2015, 12:20 AM)
wise choice. i'm superflower fan.
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So Superflower isn't working out. Cyntrix only has a 650w Leadex Gold at RM499. No doubt a very good PSU but I have already increased my budget twice. Once because I was stupid enough to miss out the "exclude GST" in the price list. So I am very aware that this increase of budget will not stop ever, there will always be something better.

So now I am back to square one and I need your opinions.

It's between Silverstone strider 700w vs thermaltake toughpower 650w vs seasonic 620w. All 3 are the same price (Seasonic RM9 more)

A friend told me he would take higher wattage PSU since Silverstone's OEM Enhanced is not a bad manufacturer. Thermaltake's OEM is CWT which isn't bad either. He said that me and others that has recommended me Seasonic M12 II are obsessed with Seasonic, as if Seasonic is the only best PSU (but it is tier 2).

Then there's the part where vendors said higher wattage better to prevent degradation. I am still not convinced I need 650 watt, but I would love to settle with 620 watt (or 600 watt) at least

So it's between higher wattage or quality and trustability of the Seasonic brand.

Having such a headache now.

How about first links is Capstone 650M Gold (Super Flower OEM) "Modular" - RM370 from Gbros?

This post has been edited by ChocChristy: May 20 2015, 01:24 PM
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which GTX 980 do most of you recommend? some range from 2.0k up to 2.8k
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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 20 2015, 01:19 PM)
So Superflower isn't working out. Cyntrix only has a 650w Leadex Gold at RM499. No doubt a very good PSU but I have already increased my budget twice. Once because I was stupid enough to miss out the "exclude GST" in the price list. So I am very aware that this increase of budget will not stop ever, there will always be something better.

So now I am back to square one and I need your opinions.

It's between Silverstone strider 700w vs thermaltake toughpower 650w vs seasonic 620w. All 3 are the same price (Seasonic RM9 more)

A friend told me he would take higher wattage PSU since Silverstone's OEM Enhanced is not a bad manufacturer. Thermaltake's OEM is CWT which isn't bad either. He said that me and others that has recommended me Seasonic M12 II are obsessed with Seasonic, as if Seasonic is the only best PSU (but it is tier 2).

Then there's the part where vendors said higher wattage better to prevent degradation. I am still not convinced I need 650 watt, but I would love to settle with 620 watt (or 600 watt) at least

So it's between higher wattage or quality and trustability of the Seasonic brand.

Having such a headache now.

How about first links is Capstone 650M Gold (Super Flower OEM) "Modular" - RM370 from Gbros?
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mostly here will confirm intro u buy seasonic. one lesson u need to learn never listen the seller recommend cos they wanna clear stock. rarely got honest seller at DM or lowyat. 1st thing they always ask u is pay with CASH or CC? important is not higher watt but the stable 12v rail supply the higher AMP. by the way, i'm using seasonic G550 v2 on my gtx 970
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ May 20 2015, 01:36 PM)
which GTX 980 do most of you recommend? some range from 2.0k up to 2.8k
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 20 2015, 01:39 PM)
mostly here will confirm intro u buy seasonic. one lesson u need to learn never listen the seller recommend cos they wanna clear stock. rarely got honest seller at DM or lowyat. 1st thing they always ask u is pay with CASH or CC? important is not higher watt but the stable 12v rail supply the higher AMP. by the way, i'm using seasonic G550 v2 on my gtx 970
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How about Capstone 650M Gold (Super Flower OEM) "Modular" - RM370 from Gbros?
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QUOTE(azamen87 @ May 20 2015, 07:21 AM)
morning all the sifus in here, currently a console gamer for all my life, thinking of migrating to pc master race for gaming. im practically a noob in pc rig and all suggestion and is well appreciated beforehand.

[Budget]
RM4k max

[Purpose]
Pure gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Monitor, speaker, mouse, keyboard

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
all the latest games in the market, and future. other is only for watching movie.

[Personal preferences]
none.

[Location]
Sarawak

Thanx!
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 895
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 339
GSkill Aegis 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM 249
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 1449
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W PSU - RM 329
Cryorig H7 CPU Cooler - RM 169
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 3764 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST and shipping fee to Sarawak)

You have extra budget left, you can either choose better CPU cooler/case/SSD.

QUOTE(ikhwan1 @ May 20 2015, 07:55 AM)
Thanks about the infomation on the 970. I just check with my HR that they will only accept one reciept for the claim. So what kind of changes would u recommend from the suggestions?
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 1429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Seasonic S12II Evo 620W - RM 339
Aerocool V3X - RM 105

Total: RM 3499 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(hooh888 @ May 20 2015, 09:39 AM)
Thanks for your suggestion, for a cramped build like this would the reference 970 be better temperatures-wise?

Off-topic: I noticed your build in your signature, should look very similar to mine, any build pics? Curious to see.  tongue.gif
I forgot to mention in the request though, he prioritize HDD capacity over SSD's speed, so if I happen to use your list I will remove the SSD and get a larger hard drive. But either way thanks for your suggestion ya.  biggrin.gif
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Yup, blower cooler is recommended in SFF rig but in order to use reference model GPU, you need to choose longer case to fit the card, if it's ok then go for it.

Currently not at home, so no pics laugh.gif

QUOTE(bladekiller @ May 20 2015, 10:16 AM)
hi guys, can recommend a value for money SSD - aiming to just put OS in it.
Using Windows 7 64bit Home Edition.

Location: LYP, KL.
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Liteon MU/S900 128GB - RM 229/269 or even cheaper Kingston V300 120GB RM 209 but not recommended due to new batch of stock is using cheaper NAND which reduces the performance.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 20 2015, 02:42 PM)
Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 895
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 339
GSkill Aegis 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM 249
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 1449
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W PSU - RM 329
Cryorig H7 CPU Cooler - RM 169
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 3764 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST and shipping fee to Sarawak)

You have extra budget left, you can either choose better CPU cooler/case/SSD.
Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 1429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Seasonic S12II Evo 620W - RM 339
Aerocool V3X - RM 105

Total: RM 3499 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
Yup, blower cooler is recommended in SFF rig but in order to use reference model GPU, you need to choose longer case to fit the card, if it's ok then go for it.

Currently not at home, so no pics  laugh.gif
Liteon MU/S900 128GB - RM 229/269 or even cheaper Kingston V300 120GB RM 209 but not recommended due to new batch of stock is using cheaper NAND which reduces the performance.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 20 2015, 02:42 PM)
Yup, blower cooler is recommended in SFF rig but in order to use reference model GPU, you need to choose longer case to fit the card, if it's ok then go for it.

Currently not at home, so no pics  laugh.gif
Noted, thanks. And take your time, looking forward to see it. biggrin.gif
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Depends on what you prefer. If you want the best gaming performance for the price you're paying, go for the AMD. It provides more graphical power. If you want something that's more compatible and software friendly, go for nVidia.

If you're not really looking to tweak the hardware settings via software, then I suggest you go for the AMD instead. It's a better dollar-for-performance GPU.
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But mind you 980ti is around the corner, it come out and say bye bye to the resale value of it.
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Cheapest should do.

But mind you 980ti is around the corner, it come out and say bye bye to the resale value of it.
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Hi everyone, my pc seems to have some issue right now and I suspect it's mobo/cpu issue. I've been turning on my pc 24/7 for the past few years (sometime travel will turn off few days). It also somehow bottleneck my gaming experience on GTA V, loading texture extremely slow causing unplayable and processor usage seems to spike to 100%, so I think this might be a good time for an upgrade.

Currently my setup is:
CPU: AMD Phenom X2 BE 555
Mobo: Asus M4N68T-M
Ram: DDR3 4+4gb
GPU: Radeon HD5870, new mobo have to be suitable for this PCI-E **not sure if relevant
PSU: Forgot brand, but I think it's enough to power up my GPU so far.
Casing: Powerlogic Modena X2200 **New mobo size have to fit in this chassis

Would like to get some suggestion on CPU and Mobo to upgrade for basic home usage and some gaming (Dota 2 and GTA 5, playable enough, no need super high resolution) under RM800~1000. Preferably Intel i3, i5, i7 or any OK performance proc (best for long lasting, doesn't have to be very good) if possible. Thanks!

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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 20 2015, 07:31 PM)
Hi everyone, my pc seems to have some issue right now and I suspect it's mobo/cpu issue. I've been turning on my pc 24/7 for the past few years (sometime travel will turn off few days). It also somehow bottleneck my gaming experience on GTA V, loading texture extremely slow causing unplayable and processor usage seems to spike to 100%, so I think this might be a good time for an upgrade.

Currently my setup is:
CPU: AMD Phenom X2 BE 555
Mobo: Asus M4N68T-M
Ram: DDR3 4+4gb
GPU: Radeon HD5870, new mobo have to be suitable for this PCI-E **not sure if relevant
PSU: Forgot brand, but I think it's enough to power up my GPU so far.
Casing: Powerlogic Modena X2200 **New mobo size have to fit in this chassis

Would like to get some suggestion on CPU and Mobo to upgrade for basic home usage and some gaming (Dota 2 and GTA 5, playable enough, no need super high resolution) under RM800~1000. Preferably Intel i3, i5, i7 or any OK performance proc (best for long lasting, doesn't have to be very good) if possible. Thanks!
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Intel Core i5 4460 and Asrock B85M-HDS fit your budget. Or spend a bit more for Asrock H97 Pro4 for more RAM and PCIE slots.
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Hi everyone i need help with building a new rig

[Budget]
RM2.8k

[Purpose]
Games mostly

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
MMORPG and latest games

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QUOTE(nikconan @ May 20 2015, 07:51 PM)
Hi everyone i need help with building a new rig

[Budget]
RM2.8k

[Purpose]
Games mostly

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
MMORPG and latest games

[Personal preferences]
none.

[Location]
Kuantan
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 675
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 189
Gskill Aegis 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM 249
Palit GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference OC - RM 839
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 179
Aerocool GT Advance - RM 115
BenQ 21.5" VW2245Z - RM 409

Total: RM 2854 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Rig below 3k doesn't include free shipping, so it is advised to top up your budget to 3k to enjoy free shipping from them since you are from Kuantan.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 20 2015, 08:07 PM)
Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 675
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 189
Gskill Aegis 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM 249
Palit GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference OC - RM 839
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 179
Aerocool GT Advance - RM 115
BenQ 21.5" VW2245Z - RM 409

Total: RM 2854 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Rig below 3k doesn't include free shipping, so it is advised to top up your budget to 3k to enjoy free shipping from them since you are from Kuantan.
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seriously consider R9 280x, its a more powerful card compare to 960. (taking away little tiny games that got paid by nvidia to crimple amd).
which means more power/value.

it also has 4GB vram which nowadays is kinda important in games like GTA V, Shadow of Mordor, etc.
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ May 20 2015, 09:28 PM)
seriously consider R9 280x, its a more powerful card compare to 960. (taking away little tiny games that got paid by nvidia to crimple amd).
which means more power/value.

it also has 4GB vram which nowadays is kinda important in games like GTA V, Shadow of Mordor, etc.
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But then,you also need a better PSU. tongue.gif

Since when there's a 280X with 4GB vRAM. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 20 2015, 01:13 PM)
Contact those in garage sale with internal connection with Dell, they can land their hand on it, but it not going to be cheap, might as well get MSI tiger or other non-reference which is cheaper.
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About the msi tiger 970, why is it cheaper than the other msi 970. Is it just bc it has downgrade cooler?

Edit: and what do you think about the 4gb 960?

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About the msi tiger 970, why is it cheaper than the other msi 970. Is it just bc it has downgrade cooler?

Edit: and what do you think about the 4gb 960?
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If you see Zotac/EVGA, they have even more models of a same card (970 in this case).
https://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.a...chipset=GTX+970
http://www.zotac.com/products/graphics-car...ct/gtx-970.html

Most of the time they just tweak the clockrate/cooler. Only for some special high end models they may tweak with the voltage, VRM and so on to make it more overclockable. As long as it is still a GTX970, it not going to bother you much as a typical consumer.

Honestly speaking, GTX960 is somehow a "weak" card. Previously, Nvidia's new card is better/on par than the "a tier higher" old card. For example, GTX770 about GTX680, GTX760 about GTX670. But Nvidia decide to make the GTX960 "just a better maxwell GTX760", which is still some gaps to GTX770. Also, for it's performance and bus width, there aren't going to be much occasion of you to utilize its 4GB RAM. You are better off stick with 3.5+0.5GB GTX970, which offer reasonably more power.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 20 2015, 07:36 PM)
Intel Core i5 4460 and Asrock B85M-HDS fit your budget. Or spend a bit more for Asrock H97 Pro4 for more RAM and PCIE slots.
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Thanks for the recommendation! I've searched back some of the post from this thread and found that Asrock H81M-VG4 is cheaper (trying to save some budget if difference is negligible). Is there any important performance difference between H81M-VG4 and B85M-HDS? I've googled and found that B85M-HDS had a 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 port that H81M-VG4 doesnt (excluding the number of USB 3.0 ports). Is the PCI-E port important for future proof?

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Thanks for the recommendation! I've searched back some of the post from this thread and found that Asrock H81M-VG4 is cheaper (trying to save some budget if difference is negligible). Is there any important performance difference between H81M-VG4 and B85M-HDS? I've googled and found that B85M-HDS had a 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 port that H81M-VG4 doesnt (excluding the number of USB 3.0 ports). Is the PCI-E port important for future proof?
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You run your GPU on PCIE slot.

PCIE V3.0 is definitely more recommended in long run.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 20 2015, 10:28 PM)
You run your GPU on PCIE slot.

PCIE V3.0 is definitely more recommended in long run.
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Alright, sounds better for future upgrade. Will be getting this one I guess. Thanks!
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Were looking for a motherboard for the I7 4790k, then I stumble upon this few motherboard priced around RM400 with the connector I want which have 4 or more 4-pin fan connector and a display port that priced around RM400

MSI H97 GAMING 3
GIGABYTE GA-H97-GAMING 3
GIGABYTE GA-H97M-GAMING 3
ASUS VANGUARD B85

which is the best among all?

and I also found MSI Z87 MPOWER SP price was RM479 on Viewnet Pricelist but when I search on Lowyat forum garage sales section the price is around RM300 more.
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Alright, sounds better for future upgrade. Will be getting this one I guess. Thanks!
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If "futureproof" is among your bigger concern, I will suggest H97 over the two above.

One simple reason is the extra RAM slots. Another is H97 can support Broadwell CPU while the two above can't.
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QUOTE(lonelystarz @ May 20 2015, 10:30 PM)
Were looking for a motherboard for the I7 4790k, then I stumble upon this few motherboard priced around RM400 with the connector I want which have 4 or more 4-pin fan connector and a display port that priced around RM400

MSI H97 GAMING 3
GIGABYTE GA-H97-GAMING 3
GIGABYTE GA-H97M-GAMING 3
ASUS VANGUARD B85

which is the best among all?

and I also found MSI Z87 MPOWER SP price was RM479 on Viewnet Pricelist but when I search on Lowyat forum garage sales section the price is around RM300 more.
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Never pair "k" CPU with non-Z series mobo, it is a waste...

But still, not all Z-series boards are created equal. I recommend at minimum budget of RM600 if you want at least a decent one.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 20 2015, 10:32 PM)
Never pair "k" CPU with non-Z series mobo, it is a waste...

But still, not all Z-series boards are created equal. I recommend at minimum budget of RM600 if you want at least a decent one.
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How does it differs from Z series mobo and non Z Series mobo if i am using k series processor?
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How does it differs from Z series mobo and non Z Series mobo if i am using k series processor?
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Z-series mobo allow overclocking on k series processor, generally have more robust VRM and some more misc features.

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oh..then i'd better go with the non k series..but which motherboard is better in terms of quality and reliability? and what is the actual price of MSI Z87 MPOWER SP?

Thanks

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oh..then i'd better go with the non k series..but which motherboard is better in terms of quality and reliability? and what is the actual price of MSI Z87 MPOWER SP?

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Viewnet price at RM479
http://www.lowyat.net/pc-hardware-pricelist-viewnet/

As for reliability, it is very random and more to your luck.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 20 2015, 10:45 PM)
Viewnet price at RM479
http://www.lowyat.net/pc-hardware-pricelist-viewnet/

As for reliability, it is very random and more to your luck.
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but all the forum-er priced their z87 Mpower SP at around Rm700..viewnet price mistake?

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but all the forum-er  priced their z87 Mpower SP at around Rm700..viewnet price mistake?
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Possible, Jayacom price also over RM700.
http://www.lowyat.net/pc-hardware-pricelist-jayacom/
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 20 2015, 09:49 PM)
But then,you also need a better PSU. tongue.gif

Since when there's a 280X with 4GB vRAM. whistling.gif
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sorry, 3gb. which is obviously more.
also 128 bit memory bus?... whistling.gif

anyways it just my opinion.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 20 2015, 10:23 PM)
If you see Zotac/EVGA, they have even more models of a same card (970 in this case).
https://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.a...chipset=GTX+970
http://www.zotac.com/products/graphics-car...ct/gtx-970.html

Most of the time they just tweak the clockrate/cooler. Only for some special high end models they may tweak with the voltage, VRM and so on to make it more overclockable. As long as it is still a GTX970, it not going to bother you much as a typical consumer.

Honestly speaking, GTX960 is somehow a "weak" card. Previously, Nvidia's new card is better/on par than the "a tier higher" old card. For example, GTX770 about GTX680, GTX760 about GTX670. But Nvidia decide to make the GTX960 "just a better maxwell GTX760", which is still some gaps to GTX770. Also, for it's performance and bus width, there aren't going to be much occasion of you to utilize its 4GB RAM. You are better off stick with 3.5+0.5GB GTX970, which offer reasonably more power.
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Thanks for the infomation. Even if i only do light gaming and most of the time doing autocad. I still should go for 970? Or i should increase the ram, processor or bigger SSD maybe?

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Thanks for the infomation. Even if i only do light gaming and most of the time doing autocad. I still should go for 970? Or i should increase the ram, processor or bigger SSD maybe?
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sorry to ask that what you means by 'light' gaming?if you demand for higher texture or higher graphic settings to looks more stunning and to maintain the playable FPS, u should consider GTX970 instead of GTX960. SSD nvr affect the FPS, it jz shorten your loading time of the game.but still depends on yourself=)
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QUOTE(ikhwan1 @ May 21 2015, 11:09 AM)
Thanks for the infomation. Even if i only do light gaming and most of the time doing autocad. I still should go for 970? Or i should increase the ram, processor or bigger SSD maybe?
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Light or hardcore gaming don't affect the decision of GPU you choose. It is about how detailed graphic settings and resolution you plan to run on and your budget you willing to pay for a GPU.

But since your rig's main purpose is workstation for autocad, I do feel that it is better to have minimum 16GB of RAM. CAD works and so on can be real memory guzzler sometimes.

Since adding in extra 8GB RAM will make it breach your budget, I do suggest you to forgo the 970 and opt for GTX960, the cheapest one you can find will do (2 or 4GB don't matter, I won't get 4GB if it cost 10% more than cheapest 2GB model I can find) . You might have a little spare change for a SSD as you wished.

As for CPU, it is as fine as it is now. Further upgrading it require RM200+ and the gain is marginal...

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what aftermarket cpu cooler are the best in price to performance ratio?
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what aftermarket cpu cooler are the best in price to performance ratio?
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Before this, it is Cooler Master's 212 evo/+ (I can't recall which one it is),

But now after GST, its price is pretty high...
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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 19 2015, 03:29 PM)
CPU Core i5-4460 638
Motherboard Asrock H97 pro4 318
RAM D3 1600Mhz kingston 210
Graphics card zotac gtx970 1199
HDD 1TB Caviar Blue from Czone 191
Casing Versa H21/ H22/ H23 150
Power supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 720W 369
 
Total  3075

Hi, I am wondering if this is a good build and whether I can get cheaper prices or I can sacrifice some brands for cheaper alternatives.
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Hi, where did you get the pricing for the mobo and cpu?
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Oh Hi all again! By the way my casing front usb slot and speaker slot seemed to have some problem, is there something to add on the dvd drive compartment for USB port? If it does, what does it called and roughly how much will it be?

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I need USB 2.0/3.0 and speaker/mic slot only
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Oh Hi all again! By the way my casing front usb slot and speaker slot seemed to have some problem, is there something to add on the dvd drive compartment for USB port? If it does, what does it called and roughly how much will it be?

For reference to explain my needs:
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I need USB 2.0/3.0 and speaker/mic slot only
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http://s.taobao.com/search?q=%E5%89%8D%E7%...0150521&ie=utf8
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 21 2015, 07:36 PM)
do you think it is available in any shop from lowyat plaza? coz i plan to buy it along when upgrading
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do you think it is available in any shop from lowyat plaza? coz i plan to buy it along when upgrading
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I will say Sri Computer is the best bet, if they don't have then probably others also don't.

Cause those type of thing is china OEMed, and Sri Computer import really lots of misc PC accessorizes from China.

p/s: May be give Viewnet a walk too, cause they do carry some Silverstone's stuffs, and Silverstone do have one available (but mind you that they are not going to be as cheap as China made).
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product_acce...p?tno=6&area=en

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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 21 2015, 06:16 PM)
Oh Hi all again! By the way my casing front usb slot and speaker slot seemed to have some problem, is there something to add on the dvd drive compartment for USB port? If it does, what does it called and roughly how much will it be?

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get in touch with >>niclasteoh<< maybe he has some
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I came across the range of products his carry, many misc accessorizes from China which other shops don't bother to carry. A good option for those despo for local solution.
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+1

I came across the range of products his carry, many misc accessorizes from China which other shops don't bother to carry. A good option for those despo for local solution.
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Thanks a lot for the suggestions, will have a look at sri computer first. If doesn't available then I'll contact him and see
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I am curious, does a cheap cooler help with keeping the rig cool at all? Looking at Deepcool MAXXA S4
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I am curious, does a cheap cooler help with keeping the rig cool at all? Looking at Deepcool MAXXA S4
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You don't keep your rig cool with CPU cooler, you use fans and cable management for it.

But if you mean to say CPU, almost any 3rd party cooler will be better than Intel stock heatsink (provided it is those normal tower sized heatsink, not those low profile one).

And for Deepcool, it is a Chinabrand, so its pricing is pretty affordable. They offer respectable performance for their price too. But before making your purchase, do your research on the particular model you looking for first.

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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 21 2015, 06:16 PM)
Oh Hi all again! By the way my casing front usb slot and speaker slot seemed to have some problem, is there something to add on the dvd drive compartment for USB port? If it does, what does it called and roughly how much will it be?

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i am looking for this too. if found it anywhere do update here. smile.gif
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Can i ask palit gtx 970 reference is good?
Will it have problem like noise or crash?
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i am looking for this too. if found it anywhere do update here. smile.gif
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I went to sri computer but couldn't find any. Ended up found one in Viewnet at RM89 for 2 USB 3.0 slot and a HDD/SSD holder inside. Quite expensive but I got one unit for the front USB 3.0 speed
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I went to sri computer but couldn't find any. Ended up found one in Viewnet at RM89 for 2 USB 3.0 slot and a HDD/SSD holder inside. Quite expensive but I got one unit for the front USB 3.0 speed
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Audio ports?
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Audio ports?
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only two USB 3.0. I went for the upgrade and somehow it broke my casing power button so I straight away change a new casing, new casing comes with audio so I didn't bother about it anymore haha

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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 22 2015, 03:20 PM)
only two USB 3.0. I went for the upgrade and somehow it broke my casing power button so I straight away change a new casing, new casing comes with audio so I didn't bother about it anymore haha
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That's a whole different story... sweat.gif

But for RM90, why don't you directly get a proper case with front USB3.0 support?

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That's a whole different story... sweat.gif

But for RM90, why don't you directly get a proper case with front USB3.0 support?
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Initially I left my computer at jayacom to install the new motherboard only I go and look for the usb port at viewnet. After buying it only jayacom tell me my casing broken and I bought the port already haha, so no choice and I don't think viewnet is going to accept refund for it lol
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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 22 2015, 03:26 PM)
Initially I left my computer at jayacom to install the new motherboard only I go and look for the usb port at viewnet. After buying it only jayacom tell me my casing broken and I bought the port already haha, so no choice and I don't think viewnet is going to accept refund for it lol
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LOL, but aren't you suppose to look for one with audio ports at first, instead you settled for one with only USB then only back to Jayacom realizing you need a new case? rclxub.gif

But well, enjoy your new case and front facing USB 3.0. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 22 2015, 03:29 PM)
LOL, but aren't you suppose to look for one with audio ports at first, instead you settled for one with only USB then only back to Jayacom realizing you need a new case? rclxub.gif

But well, enjoy your new case and front facing USB 3.0. laugh.gif
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haha coz all the while i'm using an extension wire from the back so I thought if there isn't any audio one then I'll just leave it as it is lol. Anyway thanks for your suggestions and I've picked the H97 motherboard in the end.

By the way the usb panel got a removable 3.5" space for the HDD where you can remove it and add on another USB panel for 3.5" or floppy disk. There are both 3.5" and 5.25" panel from viewnet with different amount of USB port. Learnt something new today thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 22 2015, 03:32 PM)
haha coz all the while i'm using an extension wire from the back so I thought if there isn't any audio one then I'll just leave it as it is lol. Anyway thanks for your suggestions and I've picked the H97 motherboard in the end.

By the way the usb panel got a removable 3.5" space for the HDD where you can remove it and add on another USB panel for 3.5" or floppy disk. There are both 3.5" and 5.25" panel from viewnet with different amount of USB port. Learnt something new today  thumbup.gif
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Yup, like the taobao link I posted, there's both diskete and optical bay panel. I bought mine for diskete bay from taobao something under RM30/40 IIRC.

Its called 光驱 (5.25) or 软驱 (3.5).

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Sifuss, a little help?

[Budget) 3k max

[Purpose] gaming

[Re-use Hardwares] none

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2. Assassin Creed max setting. 1080p

[Personal preferences] -

[Location] putrajaya

is the budget overkill? can I get a cheaper rig for this?

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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 22 2015, 02:59 PM)
I went to sri computer but couldn't find any. Ended up found one in Viewnet at RM89 for 2 USB 3.0 slot and a HDD/SSD holder inside. Quite expensive but I got one unit for the front USB 3.0 speed
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will this explode? lol sweat.gif

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....bucket=1#detail

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Anyone know the ROG RG8 worth buying? or DIY with that price? @@

[Budget) ROG RG8

[Purpose] gaming

[Re-use Hardwares] none

[Games & softwares that use frequently] GTA5, DOTA
[Personal preferences] -

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QUOTE(whitebeard89 @ May 22 2015, 05:43 PM)
Sifuss, a little help?

[Budget) 3k max

[Purpose] gaming

[Re-use Hardwares] none

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2. Assassin Creed max setting. 1080p

[Personal preferences] -

[Location] putrajaya

is the budget overkill? can I get a cheaper rig for this?
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AC:Unity is a poorly optimized game,FYI. sweat.gif

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM920
MSI B85M-E33 RM232.14
Sapphire R9 280X Tri-X OC 3GB GDDR5 RM929
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM219
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM194
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM339
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34
Total:RM3062.48
Price of the CPU is from Techview,MoBo and CPU cooler are from Jayacom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Just the rig?

QUOTE(LOOOOOOL @ May 22 2015, 09:54 PM)
Anyone know the ROG RG8 worth buying? or DIY with that price? @@

[Budget) ROG RG8

[Purpose] gaming

[Re-use Hardwares] none

[Games & softwares that use frequently] GTA5, DOTA
[Personal preferences] -

[Location]
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DIY is better.Also,the name is RG8 o GR8?Can't seem to find "RG8".

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM920
MSI B85M-E33 RM232.14
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1271
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM219
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM194
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze RM339
Thermaltake H25 RM135
CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34
Total:RM3404.48
Price of the CPU is from Techview,MoBo and CPU cooler are from Jayacom@LYP,GPU is from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Not sure what's the price of the GR8..it mentioned RM3388 but that was 6 months ago.
http://www.lowyat.net/2014/11/asus-gr8-com...ds-in-malaysia/

Only the rig?No need for OS,kb/m and monitor?Do you prefer ITX or ATX? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 22 2015, 10:37 PM)
AC:Unity is a poorly optimized game,FYI. sweat.gif

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM920
MSI B85M-E33 RM232.14
Sapphire R9 280X Tri-X OC 3GB GDDR5 RM929
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM219
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM194
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM339
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34
Total:RM3062.48
Price of the CPU is from Techview,MoBo and CPU cooler are from Jayacom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Just the rig?

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Is it possible to go for a cheaper psu & gpu? any other options?
or is this the minimum req.
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QUOTE(whitebeard89 @ May 23 2015, 12:17 AM)
thanks for the input.
Is it possible to go for a cheaper psu & gpu? any other options?
or is this the minimum req.
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If you want cheaper PSU and GPU then you will have to lower down the settings in game, even the current suggestion by Minecrafter will only be playable with medium settings in AC: Unity.

MSI Tiger GTX960 2GB GDDR5 - RM 850
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199

Both items are from Viewnet.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 23 2015, 12:41 AM)
If you want cheaper PSU and GPU then you will have to lower down the settings in game, even the current suggestion by Minecrafter will only be playable with medium settings in AC: Unity.

MSI Tiger GTX960 2GB GDDR5 - RM 850
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199

Both items are from Viewnet.
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I see. Thank you kind sir. smile.gif
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Hi decided to upgrade and salvage any usable part from current pc appreciate any adive

[Purpose]1K-1.5k

[Purpose] Gaming, HD movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Current rig appreciate any advice for hardware that can be reuse CPU AMD Athlon II X3 435,Board MSI 770-C45,Graphic ATI Radeon HD5770 vapor x,Power supply Xigmatex 650w, 2 Piece Kingston 2gb 1333 Ram.

[Monitor resolution]already have

[Games & softwares that use frequently]Dota 2

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hello, i wanted to build a pc( budget gaming pc)
i already made list and choice,,and found price at affordable range.. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif and i found pricelist at jayacom very nice thumbup.gif thumbup.gif but hmm.gif hmm.gif is it ok to buy there and will i get cheaper price to rclxub.gif rclxub.gif buy all pc components

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QUOTE(ProdigyZz @ May 23 2015, 10:48 AM)
Hi decided to upgrade and salvage any usable part from current pc appreciate any adive

[Purpose]1K-1.5k

[Purpose] Gaming, HD movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Current rig appreciate any advice for hardware that can be reuse CPU AMD Athlon II X3 435,Board MSI 770-C45,Graphic ATI Radeon HD5770 vapor x,Power supply Xigmatex 650w, 2 Piece Kingston 2gb 1333 Ram.

[Monitor resolution]already have

[Games & softwares that use frequently]Dota 2

[Personal preferences]Prefer changing to SSD

[Location]KL
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Are you just going to be playing Dota 2?Cause i think the CPU and GPU is already enough for it. hmm.gif

QUOTE(dynamite_hari @ May 23 2015, 02:34 PM)
hello, i wanted to build a pc( budget gaming pc)
i already made list and choice,,and found price at affordable range..  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  and i found pricelist at jayacom very nice thumbup.gif  but hmm.gif  hmm.gif is it ok to buy there and will i get cheaper price to  rclxub.gif  buy all pc components
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Mind telling us your budget and the list you've in mind?

Most of the prices there are cheaper compared to other shops because even if you add in 6% tax,still cheaper. nod.gif Service wise,idk. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 22 2015, 10:37 PM)
Just the rig?
DIY is better.Also,the name is RG8 o GR8?Can't seem to find "RG8".

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM920
MSI B85M-E33 RM232.14
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1271
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM219
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM194
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze RM339
Thermaltake H25 RM135
CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34
Total:RM3404.48
Price of the CPU is from Techview,MoBo and CPU cooler are from Jayacom@LYP,GPU is from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Not sure what's the price of the GR8..it mentioned RM3388 but that was 6 months ago.
http://www.lowyat.net/2014/11/asus-gr8-com...ds-in-malaysia/

Only the rig?No need for OS,kb/m and monitor?Do you prefer ITX or ATX? tongue.gif
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let say if my budget can go up to 4.5k include monitor. what would you recommend? and why Xeon? i got no idea what this xeon is..Lol
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let say if my budget can go up to 4.5k include monitor. what would you recommend? and why Xeon? i got no idea what this xeon is..Lol
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Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM920
MSI B85M-E33 RM232.14
Gainward GTX980 Phantom 4GB GDDR5 RM2099
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM219
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze RM339
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Samsung S22C170BS 21.5" RM402.80
Total:RM4545.94
Prices of the Monitor and MoBo are from Jayacom@LYP,CPU and GPU are from Techview and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 is an i7 4790 in disguise,only 200MHz slower,no iGP but cheaper.Add in a CPU cooler if you can,CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34.
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[Budget] RM2-2.5K (can add more if needed)

[Purpose] Gaming (main: DOTA2& TF2 + some latest games in the coming years)
Engineering programs - autoCAD, solidworks etc. (ME student, want a build that allows me to upgrade into workstation in the future but not necessary for now)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None.

[Monitor resolution] 1080p . Prefer wide screen ratio like 16:9 / 16:10

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
DOTA 2, TF2 and some latest games
Engineering programs
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-mATX rig (cheaper parts, compact, better cooling efficiency) ; ITX might be harder for maintenance & more exp
preferably support at least 2 ram sticks
including windows

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i think i'm expecting for a GT750 TI/non-TI build, but how much would it cost additionally for a R9 280/270 or even R7 26x build which needs a better PSU than GT750 TI build? and, is it worth the upgrade (higher game setting, more future proofing etc.)?
extra questions:
is SSHD worth the +100 cost over HDD?
should i add discrete sound card? i'm not sure if its necessary for gaming or not. if yes, can i fit GPU+wifi card+sound card in a mATX mobo?

thanks in advance !

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Sifu, izzit ok I take PSU Seasonic S 1211 bronze instead of M series Bronze because they dont have M series...

Any diff major diff between this 2 series?
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Sifu, izzit ok I take PSU Seasonic S 1211 bronze instead of M series Bronze because they dont have M series...

Any diff major diff between this 2 series?
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Need sifu's advice to upgrade my current pc.
I'm just looking to replace casing and CPU cooler at the moment, since the temperature of my current system is pretty hot (and noisy cpu stock fan). sweat.gif

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[Budget]
Around RM350 for both casing and CPU cooler.

[Personal preferences]
I was thinking of getting this 2 item.

Cooler Master Hyper 212X
Cooler Master Elite 430

But since i'm totally noob here, was wondering if the cooler's size will fit the casing, really need sifu's help.
I'm really interested on the cooler since it have long fan life expectancy, so can be used for several years.
So if the casing wont fit the cooler, appreciate if sifus can recommend other casing (any brand with good cooling, preferred mid tower) or other cooler that have good cooling and low noise.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Mostly all of the current hardwares.

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-890 GPA-UD3H
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955
RAM: Corsair Value Ram 2GB x2
HDD: WD Green Caviar 2TB
ODD: Asus DVD Rom
PSU: Acbel 450W
GPU: MSI Radeon HD5450

[Purpose]
Internet browsing, watch movies/anime, online gaming, some not really heavy graphic old games.

[Monitor resolution]
Samsung S19A100 - 1280x768

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
MS Offices, Adobes (Photoshop/Ilustrator)...and other basic pc stuff.
I'm just some normal pc user, not graphic/web designer or something like that, not doing game Mod.


And got any recommendation for good/reliable and cheap SSD? Budget below RM300.
Was thinking to add 1, since pc becoming slower eventhough using winXP only. Formatting wont help much.
Will upgrade to win7 once have SSD.

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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Can someone,qoute me,the Price for this items? If the items are not avaible in jayacom etc,can your guys suggest other item that on par with it? Thnaks! And its good rig?

CPU-Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor

RAM-G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

GPU-XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation

Motherboard-ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

HDD-Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM

Case-Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case

PSU-EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
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For the casing and CPU cooler,Corsair Carbide Spec-03 RM219.42 and CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34.
If you want the Hyper 212X,it does fits the CM Elite 430. nod.gif Both should be less than RM350 in total.

For the SSD,Liteon 900S 128GB RM269. brows.gif

QUOTE(breekachu @ May 24 2015, 01:33 AM)
Can someone,qoute me,the Price for this items? If the items are not avaible in jayacom etc,can your guys suggest other item that on par with it? Thnaks! And its good rig?

CPU-Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor RM736.70

RAM-G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory RM299-319

GPU-XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation ??? Not available in Malaysia.

Motherboard-ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ??? Can't seem to find the price of it here.

HDD-Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM RM194

Case-Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case RM254.40

PSU-EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ??? Not available in Malaysia.
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What is your budget and usage?
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What is your budget and usage?
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Thnaks! Acttualy,for gaming. That spec i copy pastr from youtube, $600 dolar for 1080p gaming rig.

My budget around 3k net. Can you suggest me some decent gaming rig 1080p? Without monitor.
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QUOTE(breekachu @ May 24 2015, 08:11 PM)
Thnaks! Acttualy,for gaming. That spec i copy pastr from youtube, $600 dolar for 1080p gaming rig.

My budget around 3k net. Can you suggest me some decent gaming rig 1080p? Without monitor.
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1376.94
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Aerocool V3X - RM 104.94

Total: RM 3026.88 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet inclusive of GST)
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1376.94
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Aerocool V3X - RM 104.94

Total: RM 3026.88 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet inclusive of GST)
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Thanks terence!

Anyone have other suggestion for gaming rig 1080p 3k max budjet ? Let me know. I want 3-4 suggestion then ill open poll thread and let you all vote for Me.

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Thanks terence!

Anyone have other suggestion for gaming rig 1080p 3k max budjet ? Let me know. I want 3-4 suggestion then ill open poll thread and let you all vote for Me.
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No, 3k is pretty tight already. You should be grateful he manage to squeeze in a GTX970 within your budget.

If your point of 3k max is not even the RM30 exceed, opt for i5 4440 instead, it should cost bout RM30 less.

Also, you can nego the final price if you bundle whole system from one or pay in cash.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 24 2015, 11:09 PM)
No, 3k is pretty tight already. You should be grateful he manage to squeeze in a GTX970 within your budget.

If your point of 3k max is not even the RM30 exceed, opt for i5 4440 instead, it should cost bout RM30 less.

Also, you can nego the final price if you bundle whole system from one or pay in cash.
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For you,this is the best option on my budjet? Anything you want to change?

I dont mind if exceed rm30 , sokay loorr.

Maybe ill get from idealtech (free postage over 3k right?) or swisspac since im in perlis.
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For you,this is the best option on my budjet? Anything you want to change?

I dont mind if exceed rm30 , sokay loorr.

Maybe ill get from idealtech (free postage over 3k right?) or swisspac since im in perlis.
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Idealtech pricing and inventories can be quite different, if you want order from him we need to rework the thing.
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Idealtech pricing and inventories can be quite different, if you want order from him we need to rework the thing.
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Idealtech Price expensive? Let Me pm idealtech First,and see how much he can qoute me the Price.

I'll update after idealtech give me the Price so you guys can help me which part need to change. Thanks!
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Idealtech Price expensive? Let Me pm idealtech First,and see how much he can qoute me the Price.

I'll update after idealtech give me the Price so you guys can help me which part need to change.  Thanks!
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This is what I can came out with the price list from his site.
QUOTE(Human10 @ May 24 2015, 11:36 PM)
i5 4460 (675)
Asrock B85M HDS (269)
Aegis 8GB (249)
Palit GTX970 reference (1299)
FSP Hexa+ (179)
WD Blue 1TB (199)
AEROCOOL GT ADVANCE BLACK/WHITE (115)

Total = RM2985
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But since you are PMing him, just ask him to quote a RIG for 3k and we see how it goes.

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This is what I can came out with the price list from his site.
But since you are PMing him, just ask him to quote a RIG for 3k and we see how it goes.
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ May 23 2015, 06:02 PM)
[Budget] RM2-2.5K (can add more if needed)

[Purpose] Gaming (main: DOTA2& TF2 + some latest games in the coming years)
Engineering programs - autoCAD, solidworks etc. (ME student, want a build that allows me to upgrade into workstation in the future but not necessary for now)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None.

[Monitor resolution] 1080p . Prefer wide screen ratio like 16:9 / 16:10

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
DOTA 2, TF2 and some latest games
Engineering programs
[Personal preferences]
-mATX rig (cheaper parts, compact, better cooling efficiency) ; ITX might be harder for maintenance & more exp
preferably support at least 2 ram sticks
including windows

[Location]KL
i think i'm expecting for a GT750 TI/non-TI build, but how much would it cost additionally for a R9 280/270 or even R7 26x build which needs a better PSU than GT750 TI build? and, is it worth the upgrade (higher game setting, more future proofing etc.)?
extra questions:
is SSHD worth the +100 cost over HDD?
should i add discrete sound card? i'm not sure if its necessary for gaming or not. if yes, can i fit GPU+wifi card+sound card in a mATX mobo?

thanks in advance !
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Bump sad.gif Preferably silencio 352 . Does the case limit my choices of gpu much due to compatibility ?
If ATX build can get me better build, do suggest. I noticed some compact mid tower casing though

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Hello sifus

budget 3.8k +-

Purpose - CAD programs + games (dota2, mmorpg etc)

No hardware to be used back

Monitor 20-24"

Preferences

Lagless CAD/Rendering programs if possible.



Side Q : Can I transfer my window key to the new build ? I had my windows reformatted and installed by the shop. Ori windows no problem so far.

Q2: any nice speaker recommended under RM250? Im looking at Sonicgear Evo 9 BTMI. Quite like the bluetooth function in fact the multifunction of it.

Thanks in advance. rclxms.gif
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1) 3 HDMI out
2) I am using 3 x FHD LCD multi display
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4) NO GAMING, FOR WORKING ONLY

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[cool.gif[Budget] idk <1.5k/2k?

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Bump sad.gif Preferably silencio 352  . Does the case limit my choices of gpu much due to compatibility ?
If ATX build can get me better build, do suggest. I noticed some compact mid tower casing though
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 - RM 499
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 159
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
CM Silencio 352 - RM 229
BenQ GL2450-B - RM 499
Windows 8.1 OEM - RM 439

Total: RM 3171 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

RM2.5k budget is kinda hard to build a rig now which includes a monitor, 3k is recommended, sound card comes with the mobo is good enough for normal use, if on tight budget, normal HDD will do the job.

QUOTE(Shiroi @ May 25 2015, 05:41 PM)
Hello sifus

budget 3.8k +-

Purpose - CAD programs + games (dota2, mmorpg etc)

No hardware to be used back

Monitor 20-24"

Preferences

Lagless CAD/Rendering  programs if possible.
Side Q : Can I transfer my window key to the new build ? I had my windows reformatted and installed by the shop. Ori windows no problem so far.

Q2: any nice speaker recommended under RM250? Im looking at Sonicgear Evo 9 BTMI. Quite like the bluetooth function in fact the multifunction of it.

Thanks in advance.  rclxms.gif
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1376.94
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 319
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 145
Samsung S22C170BS - RM 409

Total: RM 3875.94 (GPU is from Jayacom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

If your Windows key is OEM then it cannot be reuse due to key is permanently registered to mobo serial number, if it is retail version, yes it can be reuse, try contact Microsoft for more information. And about the speaker, does it have to be included in the budget? Do you have any keyboard and mouse to reuse?

QUOTE(angah_as @ May 25 2015, 09:49 PM)
Hi guys please suggest to me a GC

1) 3 HDMI out
2) I am using 3 x FHD LCD multi display
3) Budget below rm400 or as lowest as possible
4) NO GAMING, FOR WORKING ONLY

Thankx
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3 HDMI out is quite hard to find for low end GC, suggest you get a cheap GC with 3 outputs(mostly VGA + DVI + HDMI) then use converter/adaptor to HDMI.

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Please do provide the following info while posting

[cool.gif[Budget] idk <1.5k/2k?

[Purpose] can load 10-15 or 20 tabs at 1 time without lagging, and choppy jerking image. heavy multi tasking

[Hardwares that will be re-use] idk which can be re-use

[Monitor resolution] no need

[Games & softwares that use frequently] internet explorer

[Personal preferences]

[Location]
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Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 189
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM x2 - RM 438
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 159
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 145

Total: RM 1794 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

Drop a stick of 8GB RAM if want < 1.5k, more RAM to handle more tabs and system can run smoothly without running out of memory so soon.
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1376.94
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 319
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 145
Samsung S22C170BS  - RM 409

Total: RM 3875.94 (GPU is from Jayacom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

If your Windows key is OEM then it cannot be reuse due to key is permanently registered to mobo serial number, if it is retail version, yes it can be reuse, try contact Microsoft for more information. And about the speaker, does it have to be included in the budget? Do you have any keyboard and mouse to reuse?

thank you thumbup.gif
I`ve set aside for the speaker already. For keyboard mouse, those logitech set should be good enough for me. Not too expensive for those.

I believe its retail, I`ll have a look later and contact Microsoft.

Much thanks rclxms.gif
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So im PM 2 member of idealtech and this is the result for Gaming RIG 1080p (3K budjet)

Option 1

Items Type Price
CPU Intel Core i5 4460 RM675
MOBOASUS B85M-G * RM315
RAMGskill Aegis 8GB 1600mhz DDR3RM249
HDDWD 1TB Caviar BlueRM199
ChasisThermaltake Versa H25 *RM135
GPUPalit GTX970 Reference 4GB DDR5RM1299
PSUFSP HEXA+ 550W PSURM179
RM3050

Option 2


Items Type Price
CPU Intel Core i5 4460 RM675
MOBOAsrock B85M HDS * RM269
RAMGskill Aegis 8GB 1600mhz DDR3RM249
HDDWD 1TB Caviar BlueRM199
ChasisThermaltake Versa H23 *RM135
GPUPalit GTX970 Reference 4GB DDR5RM1299
PSUFSP HEXA+ 550W PSURM179
RM3005


The different at MOBO and CHASIS only.

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QUOTE(breekachu @ May 26 2015, 12:31 AM)
So im PM 2 member of idealtech and this is the result for Gaming RIG 1080p (3K budjet)

Option 1

Items Type Price
CPU Intel Core i5 4460 RM675
MOBOASUS B85M-G * RM315
RAMGskill Aegis 8GB 1600mhz DDR3RM249
HDDWD 1TB Caviar BlueRM199
ChasisThermaltake Versa H25 *RM135
GPUPalit GTX970 Reference 4GB DDR5RM1299
PSUFSP HEXA+ 550W PSURM179
RM3050

Option 2
Items Type Price
CPU Intel Core i5 4460 RM675
MOBOAsrock B85M HDS * RM269
RAMGskill Aegis 8GB 1600mhz DDR3RM249
HDDWD 1TB Caviar BlueRM199
ChasisThermaltake Versa H23 *RM135
GPUPalit GTX970 Reference 4GB DDR5RM1299
PSUFSP HEXA+ 550W PSURM179
RM3005
The different at MOBO and CHASIS only.

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About the same, the asus mobo just having 4 RAM slots over the asrock one with just 2. Shouldn't be a problem for most people.

But if you insist 4 slots, might as well take a look at Asrock H97m Pro4. Slightly pricier than the asus but much more worthwhile.

As for the case, both are pretty much the same, google for it and take the one with the look you prefer.

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About the same, the asus mobo just having 4 RAM slots over the asrock one with just 2. Shouldn't be a problem for most people.

But if you insist 4 slots, might as well take a look at Asrock H97m Pro4. Slightly pricier than the asus but much more worthwhile.
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if you in my place. which one you choose? option 1 or option 2? hmm.gif

p/s if i can get extra money, ill get asrock H97m Pro4. just rm34 different between ASUS B85M-G nod.gif
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if you in my place. which one you choose? option 1 or option 2?  hmm.gif

p/s if i can get extra money, ill get asrock H97m Pro4. just rm34 different between  ASUS B85M-G  nod.gif
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I can't comment much cause I am the type of person which either go cheap or overpaid till it is worth...

Which in this case, Asrock B85/H97
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I can't comment much cause I am the type of person which either go cheap or overpaid till it is worth...

Which in this case, Asrock B85/H97
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BOOM icon_idea.gif . ill take option 2. if i can get extra money within a week surely ill get h97.

Thank you master! thumbup.gif
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thank you  thumbup.gif
I`ve set aside for the speaker already. For keyboard mouse, those logitech set should be good enough for me. Not too expensive for those.

I believe its retail, I`ll have a look later and contact Microsoft.

Much thanks  rclxms.gif
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If it is retail, just key in to your new rig and it should work, if not only contact Microsoft.

Normally if install Windows via iso, you have to use generic key for Windows 8/8.1 to continue the installation process, after booted into desktop only apply your own key in control panel.
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BOOM icon_idea.gif  . ill take option 2. if i can get extra money within a week surely ill get h97.

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Good choice.

You lose out nothing but 2 RAM slots.

Since you currently on 8GB single stick, the most you want to find is another 8GB in future. In theory, 16GB should be pretty enough (not include those who do heavy CAD/render works, they need as much RAM as possible) in coming years till your whole system become obsolete, unless there's a sudden boom of technology which we can't foresee (but still by then DDR3 already completely EOLed and phased out similar to what DDR2 are today, not worth invest in anymore).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 26 2015, 01:03 AM)
If it is retail, just key in to your new rig and it should work, if not only contact Microsoft.

Normally if install Windows via iso, you have to use generic key for Windows 8/8.1 to continue the installation process, after booted into desktop only apply your own key in control panel.
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can i use my brother windows 7 code? can use two laptop/desktop? hmm.gif

he buy his laptop with original windows 7 and i have the key .

or im to noob to ask this question doh.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 26 2015, 01:04 AM)
Good choice.

You lose out nothing but 2 RAM slots.

Since you currently on 8GB single stick, the most you want to find is another 8GB in future. In theory, 16GB should be pretty enough (not include those who do heavy CAD/render works, they need as much RAM as possible) in coming years till your whole system become obsolete, unless there's a sudden boom of technology which we can't foresee (but still by then DDR3 already completely EOLed and phased out similar to what DDR2 are today, not worth invest in anymore).
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ahhh nice point you got there sir thumbup.gif

Q: can i use different type of ram? like Gskill Aegis 8GB 1600mhz DDR3 + TridentX DDR3 + RipjawsX XL DDR3 . as long its DDR3 its okay right? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(breekachu @ May 26 2015, 01:06 AM)
can i use my brother windows 7 code? can use two laptop/desktop? hmm.gif

he buy his laptop with original windows 7 and i have the key  .

or im to noob to ask this question  doh.gif
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Theoretically cannot, one key per PC only, but sometimes there are some glitches on Microsoft's server side which allows one key to be activated on 2 different PCs at the same time. And if the key comes with laptop, then it will be an OEM key which tied to mobo serial.
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ahhh nice point you got there sir  thumbup.gif

Q: can i use different type of ram? like Gskill Aegis 8GB 1600mhz DDR3 + TridentX DDR3 + RipjawsX XL DDR3 . as long its DDR3 its okay right?  rclxub.gif
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Generally yes, since DDR3 is at its end of development, so probably no more new variants will come out (except DDR3L). So that means any 8GB you can find now will be the same as 8GB you can find in future (the "same" refers to the chips specifications).

But still, you should take note on 2 things, latency and speed. Sometimes different latency and speed RAM can't work together.

And no, you can only use OEM key once on 1 device.

For retails key, you can transfer it quite a few times by contact Microsoft, but still only one at a time.
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Theoretically cannot, one key per PC only, but sometimes there are some glitches on Microsoft's server side which allows one key to be activated on 2 different PCs at the same time. And if the key comes with laptop, then it will be an OEM key which tied to mobo serial.
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the key comes with laptop,so i kenot use it doh.gif sweat.gif

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Generally yes, since DDR3 is at its end of development, so probably no more new variants will come out (except DDR3L). So that means any 8GB you can find now will be the same as 8GB you can find in future (the "same" refers to the chips specifications).

But still, you should take note on 2 things, latency and speed. Sometimes different latency and speed RAM can't work together.

And no, you can only use OEM key once on 1 device.

For retails key, you can transfer it quite a few times by contact Microsoft, but still only one at a time.
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ahhh i see, better buy same type then. kalau tidak rugi loor kenot use nod.gif

Torrent here i come sweat.gif

Btw thank you so much for helping me and answer all my question! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 25 2015, 11:11 PM)
Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 - RM 499
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 159
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
CM Silencio 352 - RM 229
BenQ GL2450-B - RM 499
Windows 8.1 OEM - RM 439

Total: RM 3171 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

RM2.5k budget is kinda hard to build a rig now which includes a monitor, 3k is recommended, sound card comes with the mobo is good enough for normal use, if on tight budget, normal HDD will do the job.
thanks so much! notworthy.gif
wow i never thought that Windows OEM could cost that much yawn.gif can OEMs upgrade to Windows 10 for free?
hmm... tbh, it even exceeded my max. 3k budget yawn.gif
which parts can tune down & don't hurt much? or, can i obtain cheaper priced parts from other outlets yet i still can get free assembly service @ viewnet?
i don't mind playing games at lower setting though (changing into AMD counterparts or move into lower tiers (GTX 740 etc.))
i3 4130/50/60 with hyperthreading essentially has the same number of threads as i5 4460. other than lower cache memory for weaker multitasking, does the performance differ much or bottleneck my GPU?
is BenQ GW2255 fine as a replacement? or even changing into 1600x900 setup. it won't differ much right?
edit: i just realized b85m-hds has only single dual memory lane, which is abit different from standard b85m. what it differs from its h81m counterparts other than PCI-e 3.0?

sorry for having too much doubts & questions sad.gif

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thanks so much!  notworthy.gif
wow i never thought that Windows OEM could cost that much yawn.gif can OEMs upgrade to Windows 10 for free?
hmm... tbh, it even exceeded my max. 3k budget yawn.gif
which parts can tune down & don't hurt much? or, can i obtain cheaper priced parts from other outlets yet i still can get free assembly service @ viewnet?
i don't mind playing games at lower setting though (changing into AMD counterparts or move into lower tiers (GTX 740 etc.))
i3 4130/50/60 with hyperthreading essentially has the same number of threads as i5 4460. other than lower cache memory for weaker multitasking, does the performance differ much or bottleneck my GPU?
is BenQ GW2255 fine as a replacement? or even changing into 1600x900 setup. it won't differ much right?
edit: i just realized b85m-hds has only single dual memory lane, which is abit different from standard b85m. what it differs from its h81m counterparts other than PCI-e 3.0?

sorry for having too much doubts & questions  sad.gif
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Oops, typo there, it's retail version, OEM version is around RM 100 cheaper than retail but OEM can only be activated once so getting a retail version is better.

Normally free assembly service only available if you purchase all parts from a single shop. If gaming is not your top priority and really wish to make it below 3k, either choose a smaller size/reso monitor or downgrade the CPU, i3 is sufficient for casual gaming but please be noted that some games like Far Cry 4 won't be able to run on dual core setup. If you want more RAM slots, get a normal ATX or Asus B85M at higher price, but I think 2 RAM slot is enough already since you are getting a single 8GB RAM stick now and you can add another 8GB later when needed, 16GB should be enough for the next couple of years unless you are a heavy CAD/rendering user.
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ May 26 2015, 02:18 AM)
thanks so much!  notworthy.gif
wow i never thought that Windows OEM could cost that much yawn.gif can OEMs upgrade to Windows 10 for free?
hmm... tbh, it even exceeded my max. 3k budget yawn.gif
which parts can tune down & don't hurt much? or, can i obtain cheaper priced parts from other outlets yet i still can get free assembly service @ viewnet?
i don't mind playing games at lower setting though (changing into AMD counterparts or move into lower tiers (GTX 740 etc.))
i3 4130/50/60 with hyperthreading essentially has the same number of threads as i5 4460. other than lower cache memory for weaker multitasking, does the performance differ much or bottleneck my GPU?
is BenQ GW2255 fine as a replacement? or even changing into 1600x900 setup. it won't differ much right?
edit: i just realized b85m-hds has only single dual memory lane, which is abit different from standard b85m. what it differs from its h81m counterparts other than PCI-e 3.0?

sorry for having too much doubts & questions  sad.gif
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wait win 10 official release only u buy. no point buy win 8.1 oem now. u will get free upgrade win 10 but only 1 yr.

i3 still running dual core with HT & i5 is quad core w/o HT.

if u not OC any processor, just pick any B85 or H97 mobo.

the remaining money always spend on monitor that suit ur preferences. now u should pick mobo that come with PCI-e 3.0. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ >> go read it

PCI-e 2.0 is older version from H81 mobo. try to avoid using old generation.

important pick Tier 1 PSU & build ur own rig. no need ask those shops. youtube got a lot guideline how to build pc.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 26 2015, 03:34 PM)
wait win 10 official release only u buy. no point buy win 8.1 oem now. u will get free upgrade win 10 but only 1 yr.

i3 still running dual core with HT & i5 is quad core w/o HT.

if u not OC any processor, just pick any B85 or H97 mobo.

the remaining money always spend on monitor that suit ur preferences. now u should pick mobo that come with PCI-e 3.0. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ >> go read it

PCI-e 2.0 is older version from H81 mobo. try to avoid using old generation.

important pick Tier 1 PSU & build ur own rig. no need ask those shops. youtube got a lot guideline how to build pc.
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That isn't correct.

People that use Windows 7 or 8.1 get a free upgrade to Windows 10 if they upgrade it to the latter within the first year.It'll permanently be yours.
If you want to upgrade..let's say 1 year and 1 day since Windows 10 was released,you need to pay.

Let's just hope Microsoft won't turn it into subscription,that would suck so bad. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 26 2015, 03:49 PM)
That isn't correct.

People that use Windows 7 or 8.1 get a free upgrade to Windows 10 if they upgrade it to the latter within the first year.It'll permanently be yours.
If you want to upgrade..let's say 1 year and 1 day since Windows 10 was released,you need to pay.

Let's just hope Microsoft won't turn it into subscription,that would suck so bad. doh.gif
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after 1 yr u still need to pay. wait they announce official status regarding the matter. now 2015 everything talk money. this world nothing is free.
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Dear rig masters, I need help upgrading my dad's computer. Need a compatible graphics card for his ECS A785GM-M3 motherboard. It also has a DDR2 667 1GB PC2 5300 memory stick and runs on AMD Phenom II X2 555. How can I upgrade it to it's maximum potential?
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Hye sifus! Wanna build a rig when i go back KL later on June. Would like u guys to recommend a few stuff.

3-3.5k, gaming + casual
Rig only + os w7
No oc, gtx 970 (prefer msi)
No monitor etc just rig.
Might be doing some engineering softwares (render etc)

Interested in r9 models as well. Thnx in advance!
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Hi Guys

Need suggestions on budget gaming pc (mainly for cyber cafe use, low setting gaming, online mmo etc2). My budget around 1-1.2k each (without software, lcd, hdd), and wanna build 5 rig replacing my old setup.

My old setup is Intel Dual Core and AMD Sempron. My cyber cafe serve mainly little kids to secondary student, and some foreigner doing some FB. So far, no heavy gaming is needed, they all just play same old game like counter strike, ragnarok, ryl. No dota fans here coz kampung area LoL.

I check online price list found some options:

AMD A8 6600K - RM 359
Asus A78M-E - RM 234
Kingston HyperX 2400Mhz - RM 289 (4GB x2)
Casing - RM 100
Total RM 982

Intel G3250 - RM 197
Asus H81M-C - RM 229
Sapphire R7 250 - RM 298
Kingston VR 1600Mhz - RM 230 (4GB x2)
Casing - RM 100
Total RM 1054

Any opinion on both setup? Or others setup should i consider?

Thanks

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QUOTE(Furanshisu @ May 26 2015, 04:54 PM)
Dear rig masters, I need help upgrading my dad's computer. Need a compatible graphics card for his ECS A785GM-M3 motherboard. It also has a DDR2 667 1GB PC2 5300 memory stick and runs on AMD Phenom II X2 555. How can I upgrade it to it's maximum potential?
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What kind of work does your dad do?

QUOTE(Razdan92 @ May 26 2015, 05:02 PM)
Hye sifus! Wanna build a rig when i go back KL later on June. Would like u guys to recommend a few stuff.

3-3.5k, gaming + casual
Rig only + os w7
No oc, gtx 970 (prefer msi)
No monitor etc just rig.
Might be doing some engineering softwares (render etc)

Interested in r9 models as well. Thnx in advance!
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NVidia GPU is better for stuffs like rendering. nod.gif

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.3GHz RM949 - If you wanna get it slightly cheaper,RM920 from Techview. biggrin.gif
MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate RM269
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1271
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM219
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM194
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze RM339
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Windows 7 Pro 64Bit RM200
Total:RM3576
Price of the MoBo is from Jayacom@LYP,GPU is from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

Add in a CPU cooler if you can,CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34 will do.The Xeon is slightly hot.

QUOTE(mrbs84 @ May 26 2015, 07:37 PM)
Hi Guys

Need suggestions on budget gaming pc (mainly for cyber cafe use, low setting gaming, online mmo etc2). My budget around 1-1.2k each (without software, lcd, hdd), and wanna build 5 rig replacing my old setup.

My old setup is Intel Dual Core and AMD Sempron. My cyber cafe serve mainly little kids to secondary student, and some foreigner doing some FB. So far, no heavy gaming is needed, they all just play same old game like counter strike, ragnarok, ryl. No dota fans here coz kampung area LoL.

I check online price list found some options:

AMD A8 6600K - RM 359
Asus A78M-E - RM 234
Kingston HyperX 2400Mhz - RM 289 (4GB x2)
Casing - RM 100
Total RM 982

Intel G3250 - RM 197
Asus H81M-C - RM 229
Sapphire R7 250 - RM 298
Kingston VR 1600Mhz - RM 230 (4GB x2)
Casing - RM 100
Total RM 1054

Any opinion on both setup? Or others setup should i consider?

Thanks
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No need for PSU? hmm.gif Or cap ayam which is included with the casing?I'd rather not go cap ayam. tongue.gif

Intel Pentium G3258 RM242.74
Asrock H81M-VG4 RM178.08
Sapphire R7 250X 1GB GDDR5 RM344.50
Corsair Value RAM 4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM119
FSP Hexa+ 450W RM159
Aerocool V3X RM99-109
Total:RM1142.32-1152.32
Prices with cents are from Jayacom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 26 2015, 03:05 PM)
Oops, typo there, it's retail version, OEM version is around RM 100 cheaper than retail but OEM can only be activated once so getting a retail version is better.

Normally free assembly service only available if you purchase all parts from a single shop. If gaming is not your top priority and really wish to make it below 3k, either choose a smaller size/reso monitor or downgrade the CPU, i3 is sufficient for casual gaming but please be noted that some games like Far Cry 4 won't be able to run on dual core setup. If you want more RAM slots, get a normal ATX or Asus B85M at higher price, but I think 2 RAM slot is enough already since you are getting a single 8GB RAM stick now and you can add another 8GB later when needed, 16GB should be enough for the next couple of years unless you are a heavy CAD/rendering user.
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I think 22"is good enough for me and still being FHD. Any recommendation? Im eyeing on BenQ GW2255HM (VA panel though) because it has better height and built in speaker. rm100 cheaper
Dota 2 is my main game as im amateurly active in competition. AAA games would be my occassion visits. Im okay to tune down the game reso n settings for better fps.
I'm not sure about that because im starting my ME degree next month, 8gb should be suffice for my study years i guess. But what's after that i'm not sure or even during intern
I guess i5 is a safer choice then.

Oh yea, is it advisable for me to install cpu cooler or any sort of cooling? Will case fans in positive pressure setup be just fine ?

Thanks sifu.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 26 2015, 04:03 PM)
after 1 yr u still need to pay. wait they announce official status regarding the matter. now 2015 everything talk money. this world nothing is free.
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Ya im doubtful of that. I've read about so much different stories about it. Some suggest OEM can port over. Some suggest otherwise. Wins10 is releasing this year right?
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 26 2015, 08:31 PM)
No need for PSU? hmm.gif Or cap ayam which is included with the casing?I'd rather not go cap ayam. tongue.gif

Intel Pentium G3258 RM242.74
Asrock H81M-VG4 RM178.08
Sapphire R7 250X 1GB GDDR5 RM344.50
Corsair Value RAM 4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM119
FSP Hexa+ 450W RM159
Aerocool V3X RM99-109
Total:RM1142.32-1152.32
Prices with cents are from Jayacom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif
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For AMD setup maybe can use cap ayam LoL, if the Intel probably need it coz have gc.

Thanks for the info, I'll survey with the local shop here on pricing, I'm in JB, maybe price a bit different.

Btw what the difference between G3250 & G3258?

This post has been edited by mrbs84: May 26 2015, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ May 26 2015, 08:41 PM)
Ya im doubtful of that. I've read about so much different stories about it. Some suggest OEM can port over. Some suggest otherwise. Wins10 is releasing this year right?
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 26 2015, 03:34 PM)
wait win 10 official release only u buy. no point buy win 8.1 oem now. u will get free upgrade win 10 but only 1 yr.

i3 still running dual core with HT & i5 is quad core w/o HT.

if u not OC any processor, just pick any B85 or H97 mobo.

the remaining money always spend on monitor that suit ur preferences. now u should pick mobo that come with PCI-e 3.0. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ >> go read it

PCI-e 2.0 is older version from H81 mobo. try to avoid using old generation.

important pick Tier 1 PSU & build ur own rig. no need ask those shops. youtube got a lot guideline how to build pc.
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I read around and suggest that none of the current GPU able to be beneficial frm 3.0 and doesnt offet much different performance from 2.0 even if a pcie 3 card slotted into 2.0 slot

Does those shops build rig poorly? Maybe no cable management?
Is FSP hexa+ 450 good then?
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ May 26 2015, 09:31 PM)
I read around and suggest that none of the current GPU able to be beneficial frm 3.0 and doesnt offet much different performance from 2.0 even if a pcie 3 card slotted into 2.0 slot

Does those shops build rig poorly? Maybe no cable management?
Is FSP hexa+ 450 good then?
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all depend on u if u want pcie 2.0 nobody can stop u.

i personally don't trust lowyat ppl to build my rig. mostly all negative minded & working hours so long while take bit salary. i always heard they grumbled so imagine their mood is good will they build ur rig nicely??

if u playing games then buy better psu. FSP so-so only consider tier 3-4 psu!
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ May 26 2015, 08:39 PM)
I think 22"is good enough for me and still being FHD. Any recommendation? Im eyeing on BenQ GW2255HM (VA panel though) because it has better height and built in speaker. rm100 cheaper
Dota 2 is my main game as im amateurly active in competition. AAA games would be my occassion visits. Im okay to tune down the game reso n settings for better fps.
I'm not sure about that because im starting my ME degree next month, 8gb should be suffice for my study years i guess. But what's after that i'm not sure or even during intern 
I guess i5 is a safer choice then.

Oh yea, is it advisable for me to install cpu cooler or any sort of cooling? Will case fans in positive pressure setup be just fine ?

Thanks sifu.
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That monitor looks good with such low price compared to same price Samsung monitor. Stock cooler will run fine for non oc build, just add few more fans if temp is bad and make sure airflow is good.

QUOTE(mrbs84 @ May 26 2015, 08:44 PM)
For AMD setup maybe can use cap ayam LoL, if the Intel probably need it coz have gc.

Thanks for the info, I'll survey with the local shop here on pricing, I'm in JB,  maybe price a bit different.

Btw what the difference between G3250 & G3258?
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G3258 can be oc'ed.
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Hello Sifus, need kind advice for below. Please bear with me if I sound like newb on some of the descriptions below, because I have no knowledge about the hardwares icon_question.gif

[Budget] RM3,000

[Purpose] Pure Gaming & Movies

[Hardwares that will be re-use] WD Red 2TB, Epsilon 80plus 600, Thermaltake casing, Dell 24" FHD monitor, DVD-ROM.

Below is the image of my old PSU, don't plan to change unless necessary
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Far Cry 4, Batman, most triple A games.

[Personal preferences] Great audio. Also, I would like to have support for surround sound (for gaming and movie).
I don't plan to OC, mainly because I'm newb biggrin.gif

[Location] KL

Thank you all in advance notworthy.gif



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QUOTE(kopicat123 @ May 27 2015, 10:46 AM)
Hello Sifus, need kind advice for below. Please bear with me if I sound like newb on some of the descriptions below, because I have no knowledge about the hardwares   icon_question.gif

[Budget] RM3,000

[Purpose] Pure Gaming & Movies

[Hardwares that will be re-use] WD Red 2TB, Epsilon 80plus 600, Thermaltake casing, Dell 24" FHD monitor, DVD-ROM.

Below is the image of my old PSU, don't plan to change unless necessary
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Far Cry 4, Batman, most triple A games.

[Personal preferences] Great audio. Also, I would like to have support for surround sound (for gaming and movie).
I don't plan to OC, mainly because I'm newb  biggrin.gif

[Location] KL

Thank you all in advance notworthy.gif
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How about these?

Xeon E3-1231 V3 - RM900
MSI B85M-E33 motherboard (m-ATX) - RM219
Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM210
Palit GTX970 4GB DDR5 - RM1299

Optional
MSI Z87-G41 PC mate motherboard (standard ATX) - +RM50 (+RM53 with GST)

RM2787 total (RM2954.22 total with GST from Jayacom)

Nvidia recommends only 500W or better for GTX970.

This post has been edited by TristanX: May 27 2015, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ May 26 2015, 09:31 PM)
I read around and suggest that none of the current GPU able to be beneficial frm 3.0 and doesnt offet much different performance from 2.0 even if a pcie 3 card slotted into 2.0 slot

Does those shops build rig poorly? Maybe no cable management?
Is FSP hexa+ 450 good then?
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Hey Adrian, Idealtech near pandan indah build their rig pretty good, If got budget it's better to go for a better tier psu.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-254...-tier-list.html

Are you Adrian Chong by any chance?
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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 27 2015, 03:27 PM)
How about these?

Xeon E3-1231 V3 - RM900
MSI B85M-E33 motherboard (m-ATX) - RM219
Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 -  RM210
Palit GTX970 4GB DDR5 - RM1299

Optional
MSI Z87-G41 PC mate motherboard (standard ATX) - +RM50 (+RM53 with GST)

RM2787 total (RM2954.22 total with GST from Jayacom)

Nvidia recommends only 500W or better for GTX970.
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Looks good to me. Do I need to get a separate sound card for surround audio, or it's already available by default. Also, I see numerous GTX970 with different price. May I know what are the differences?

This post has been edited by kopicat123: May 27 2015, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(kopicat123 @ May 27 2015, 03:56 PM)
Looks good to me. Do I need to get a separate sound card for surround audio, or it's already available by default. Also, I see numerous GTX970 with different price. May I know what are the differences?
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Most of the mobo nowadays come with 5.1/7.1 sound card, do check the mobo specs before buying. The main difference between the available model is the design, cooler and feature. Asus, Gigabyte and MSI products are having premium price here due to their brand name, Palit, Leadtek, Zotac are normally in the mid pack with affordable price, all of them are same GTX970 with some extra tweaks to clock speed, cooler and design, just get the cheapest will do.
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QUOTE(kopicat123 @ May 27 2015, 03:56 PM)
Looks good to me. Do I need to get a separate sound card for surround audio, or it's already available by default. Also, I see numerous GTX970 with different price. May I know what are the differences?
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Motherboard these days comes with sound. However, mid-ranged or better sound card still plays more sounds at the same time.

The difference with GTX970 is how far is the factory overclock and the heatsink design. Just buy the cheapest because the performance difference is only a few percent. Also, I forgot to list down Coolermaster Hyper 212X at RM159.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 27 2015, 04:49 PM)
Most of the mobo nowadays come with 5.1/7.1 sound card, do check the mobo specs before buying. The main difference between the available model is the design, cooler and feature. Asus, Gigabyte and MSI products are having premium price here due to their brand name, Palit, Leadtek, Zotac are normally in the mid pack with affordable price, all of them are same GTX970 with some extra tweaks to clock speed, cooler and design, just get the cheapest will do.
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Thank you sifu, great insight for me.

QUOTE(TristanX @ May 27 2015, 05:25 PM)
Motherboard these days comes with sound. However, mid-ranged or better sound card still plays more sounds at the same time.

The difference with GTX970 is how far is the factory overclock and the heatsink design. Just buy the cheapest because the performance difference is only a few percent. Also, I forgot to list down Coolermaster Hyper 212X at RM159.
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Last few newb question, is cooler mandatory for gaming rig, or it's just a gimmick/deco? In case I couldn't find Xeon E3-1231 V3 (looks like those shops nearby my house don't sell it), is there any other alternatives?

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Hi, want ask. Currently upgrading my hd7790.
1) I found used hd7950 for rm450. Izit good price?
2) Can it run with my current psu Aerocool 550w?
3) Will it bottleneck my rig? i3 3220, 4gb ram

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QUOTE(kopicat123 @ May 27 2015, 05:45 PM)
Thank you sifu, great insight for me.
Last few newb question, is cooler mandatory for gaming rig, or it's just a gimmick/deco? In case I couldn't find Xeon E3-1231 V3 (looks like those shops nearby my house don't sell it), is there any other alternatives?
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It depends on your environment. Xeon runs pretty hot.

You can try Xeon E3-1230 V3 for a bit less money. Core i7-4790 is at around RM1100 I think.

QUOTE(aaron_15ryderz @ May 27 2015, 06:04 PM)
Hi, want ask. Currently upgrading my hd7790.
1) I found used hd7950 for rm450. Izit good price?
2) Can it run with my current psu Aerocool 550w?
3) Will it bottleneck my rig? i3 3220, 4gb ram
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Not a bad price.

It should work.

i3-3220 will struggle on CPU heavy or large multiplayer games. Watchdogs, BF4 large multiplayer map and GTA V are the examples. i3-3220 will not run Dragon Age: Inquisition too.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 27 2015, 06:07 PM)
It depends on your environment. Xeon runs pretty hot.

You can try Xeon E3-1230 V3 for a bit less money. Core i7-4790 is at around RM1100 I think.
Can I get Core i5 4460 instead? Is the difference in performance huge on gaming?
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 26 2015, 03:34 PM)
wait win 10 official release only u buy. no point buy win 8.1 oem now. u will get free upgrade win 10 but only 1 yr.

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 26 2015, 03:49 PM)
That isn't correct.

People that use Windows 7 or 8.1 get a free upgrade to Windows 10 if they upgrade it to the latter within the first year.It'll permanently be yours.
If you want to upgrade..let's say 1 year and 1 day since Windows 10 was released,you need to pay.

Let's just hope Microsoft won't turn it into subscription,that would suck so bad. doh.gif
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 26 2015, 04:03 PM)
after 1 yr u still need to pay. wait they announce official status regarding the matter. now 2015 everything talk money. this world nothing is free.
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It's already detailed. Windows 10 Free for life (of the device) if upgraded within the offer period.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft-clarif...4730456889.html
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 26 2015, 08:31 PM)
What kind of work does your dad do?
It's not for work. For gaming. So I asked for suggestions to upgrade it. Budget around RM500.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 26 2015, 09:39 PM)
all depend on u if u want pcie 2.0 nobody can stop u.

i personally don't trust lowyat ppl to build my rig. mostly all negative minded & working hours so long while take bit salary. i always heard they grumbled so imagine their mood is good will they build ur rig nicely??

if u playing games then buy better psu. FSP so-so only consider tier 3-4 psu!
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mmm oh well, better not save that little money
i will stick with b85m
after reading around jonnyguru, hardwaresecrets & etc.
im considering Silverstone Strider Essential 500W (RM179) which is a tier3 PSU with better heat tolerance than FSP Hexa+ but still having Taiwanese caps (teapo though)
meanwhile, im also hesitating to put +rm100 more for [Tier 2] Seasonic S12II Bronze 620W @ 339 (too bad they seems to no longer be selling the cheaper but modular M12II 520W EVO as it disappeared from the pricelist)
QUOTE(McDBigMaC @ May 27 2015, 03:40 PM)
Hey Adrian, Idealtech near pandan indah build their rig pretty good, If got budget it's better to go for a better tier psu.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-254...-tier-list.html

Are you Adrian Chong by any chance?
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oh yup, you are dennis ong right? hi there
in terms of overall expenses for my build, idealtech is more costly than viewnet though



i just noticed Microsoft is offering student promo : Wins8.1 Pro @ 215 biggrin.gif great god
i will be getting my rig tomorrow. thanks you all icon_rolleyes.gif especially @terence_nwb
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ May 27 2015, 09:37 PM)
mmm oh well, better not save that little money
i will stick with b85m
after reading around jonnyguru, hardwaresecrets & etc.
im considering Silverstone Strider Essential 500W (RM179) which is a tier3 PSU with better heat tolerance than FSP Hexa+ but still having Taiwanese caps (teapo though)
meanwhile, im also hesitating to put +rm100 more for [Tier 2] Seasonic S12II Bronze 620W @ 339 (too bad they seems to no longer be selling the cheaper but modular M12II 520W EVO as it disappeared from the pricelist)

oh yup, you are dennis ong right? hi there
in terms of overall expenses for my build, idealtech is more costly than viewnet though
i just noticed Microsoft is offering student promo : Wins8.1 Pro @ 215 biggrin.gif great god
i will be getting my rig tomorrow. thanks you all  icon_rolleyes.gif  especially @terence_nwb
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ May 27 2015, 09:37 PM)
mmm oh well, better not save that little money
i will stick with b85m
after reading around jonnyguru, hardwaresecrets & etc.
im considering Silverstone Strider Essential 500W (RM179) which is a tier3 PSU with better heat tolerance than FSP Hexa+ but still having Taiwanese caps (teapo though)
meanwhile, im also hesitating to put +rm100 more for [Tier 2] Seasonic S12II Bronze 620W @ 339 (too bad they seems to no longer be selling the cheaper but modular M12II 520W EVO as it disappeared from the pricelist)

oh yup, you are dennis ong right? hi there
in terms of overall expenses for my build, idealtech is more costly than viewnet though
i just noticed Microsoft is offering student promo : Wins8.1 Pro @ 215 biggrin.gif great god
i will be getting my rig tomorrow. thanks you all  icon_rolleyes.gif  especially @terence_nwb
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Small world, try Dreamspark for getting free windows, not sure malaysia can get anot but they offer free windows for college students.

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Small world, try Dreamspark for getting free windows, not sure malaysia can get anot but they offer free windows for college students.
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oh dayum, i just verified. i can obtain windows 8.1 embedded pro, more superior than windows 8.1 pro. thanks man notworthy.gif rclxms.gif
but embedded pro is for commercial thus i can't get the free Windows 10 upgrade right? mmm

QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 27 2015, 09:57 PM)
get at least tier 2 psu. trust me. if can go tier 1!
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perhaps im getting versa h25 instead of silencio 352 and get seasonic psu

assuming theres no M12II 520 EVO, im getting S12II 620
dear sifus, will it then be advisable to get Sapphire Radeon R7 260X ? it seems to offer more power in comparison to GTX750 right?

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oh dayum, i just verified. i can obtain windows 8.1 embedded pro, more superior than windows 8.1 pro. thanks man  notworthy.gif  rclxms.gif
but embedded pro is for commercial thus i can't get the free Windows 10 upgrade right? mmm
perhaps im getting versa h25 instead of silencio 352 and get seasonic psu

assuming theres no M12II 520 EVO, im getting S12II 620
dear sifus, will it then be advisable to get Sapphire Radeon R7 260X ? it seems to offer more power in comparison to GTX750 right?
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http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/pc-comp...parison-review/

the cheapest around RM499,
if i were u, as u're getting 620w PSU (much juice there)
i will hunt for 2nd hand R9 280/HD7950 or HD7870/7850 instead icon_idea.gif

or

i will settle just with FSP Hexa+ 550w+GTX750ti (just add few bucks more from r7 260x) since it doesnt consume much power
http://www.lelong.com.my/gainward-gtx-750-...6-01-Sale-P.htm

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I bought my build according to sifu suggestion
Asrock b85m-hds is out of stock. Swapped for msi b85m-e45(289) And my bro give me his seasonic 620 bronze modular not sure about model though
Picked aoc e2250swd because of the warranty @389 plus 2 shark fans n versa h25

Total damage 2462 biggrin.gif

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Hye sifus!
a friend of mine wanna build a budget gaming rig.
Would like u guys to recommend.

Budget: 2k max but will add if necessary
Purpose: Gaming + Work

He also mentioned he will be using his TV as his monitor.
idk about this though. what do you guys think?
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QUOTE(lemonish @ May 28 2015, 07:37 PM)
Hye sifus!
a friend of mine wanna build a budget gaming rig.
Would like u guys to recommend.

Budget: 2k max but will add if necessary
Purpose: Gaming + Work

He also mentioned he will be using his TV as his monitor.
idk about this though. what do you guys think?
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Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 399
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 114
Sapphire R7 265 2GB GDDR5 Dual-X - RM 589
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM 319
Aerocool V3X - RM 105

Total: RM 2009 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 399
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 114
Sapphire R7 265 2GB GDDR5 Dual-X - RM 589
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM 319
Aerocool V3X - RM 105

Total: RM 2009 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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Change the psu to cheaper ones..maybe antec vp-550p @ viewnet RM199 or Hexa+ 550w RM169.
Then i3 can be changed to i5.GTX750Ti should be okay already for medium play.
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Hello guys, I am new here. I am not a tech savvy guy so I need your advice on building my own first PC. Can you guys recommend me one?

I would like to be able to play World of Warcraft(Ultra settings), Dragon Age Inquisition(High settings), Skyrim(High settings+ENB installed) and probably Witcher 3(Medium settings) with decent FPS. My budget is around RM4500 including monitor. Thank you.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 399
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 114
Sapphire R7 265 2GB GDDR5 Dual-X - RM 589
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM 319
Aerocool V3X - RM 105

Total: RM 2009 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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Alternative build with i5 + weaker GPU and PSU.

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 114
Leadtek GTX750 2GB DDR5 OC - RM 499
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Antec VP 500 - RM 159
Aerocool V3X - RM 105

Total: RM 2029 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(aidenmoore @ May 28 2015, 10:14 PM)
Hello guys, I am new here. I am not a tech savvy guy so I need your advice on building my own first PC. Can you guys recommend me one?

I would like to be able to play World of Warcraft(Ultra settings), Dragon Age Inquisition(High settings), Skyrim(High settings+ENB installed) and probably Witcher 3(Medium settings) with decent FPS. My budget is around RM4500 including monitor. Thank you.
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 349
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 1429
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM 319
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135
BenQ GL2450-B monitor - RM 479

Total: RM 4502 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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Hello all Sifus, thank you for the kind advice in building up my gaming rig, it's now up and running.

One question, even though I have a 600w PSU, Xeon E3, and GTX970 (which looks energy consuming when playing games), will it still consumes that much of electrical energy if I just leave my PC idle for download only?

I'm afraid the electrical bill might cost a bomb if I never turn off my PC for download sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kopicat123 @ May 29 2015, 10:19 AM)
Hello all Sifus, thank you for the kind advice in building up my gaming rig, it's now up and running.

One question, even though I have a 600w PSU, Xeon E3, and GTX970 (which looks energy consuming when playing games), will it still consumes that much of electrical energy if I just leave my PC idle for download only?

I'm afraid the electrical bill might cost a bomb if I never turn off my PC for download sweat.gif
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Nah, 600W PSU don't mean it consume 600W at all time, it just mean 600W (+ the inefficiency of your PSU model) will be the max power draw by from your wall socket.

GTX970 is a magnificent piece of engineering when it come to energy efficiency. Even at full load (assume stock clock), it consume less than 150W. On idle, it will be much less than that.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GT...TRIX_OC/23.html

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Hi all sifus, I would like to see some suggestions and advices on - RM5k budget built specifically purely for creative works only, not interested in gaming.
(photoshop, 3D animation, VFX / most importantly its able to run those heavy softwares like maya/AE smoothly without any lag or shit! And fast, better and efficient rendering duration/real time render.) sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Gmruleme @ May 29 2015, 11:33 AM)
Hi all sifus, I would like to see some suggestions and advices on - RM5k budget built specifically purely for creative works only, not interested in gaming.
(photoshop, 3D animation, VFX / most importantly its able to run those heavy softwares like maya/AE smoothly without any lag or shit! And fast, better and efficient rendering duration/real time render.) sweat.gif
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depends on ur software actly, what kind of 3d animation:

1st option if ur software is JUST cpu intensive

Intel Core i7 5820K RM1500
MSI X99S SLI Plus RM975
Kingston Value RAM 16GB DDR4 RM849
Gainward GTX750 RM433
WD 1TB RM199
Liteon 900S 256GB RM429
SEASONIC S12ll620 620W RM319
CM Hyper 212X RM169
NZXT S340 RM295

RM5168

2nd Option if ur software BOTH CPU and GPU intensive

intel i7-4790K RM1282
GIGABYTE Z97-D3H RM472
KINGSTON VALUE RAM 16GB (8GBX2) RM470
DEEPCOOL MAELSTROM 120K RM199
THERMALTAKE H25 RM130
GAINWARD GTX970 REF RM1259
KINGSTON HYPER FURY X 240GB SSD RM410
WD 1TB RM199
SEASONIC S12ll620 620W RM319

RM4740

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QUOTE(mod_po @ May 29 2015, 01:37 PM)
depends on ur software actly, what kind of 3d animation:

1st option if ur software is JUST cpu intensive

Intel Core i7 5820K RM1500
MSI X99S SLI Plus RM975
Kingston Value RAM 16GB DDR4 RM849
Gainward GTX750 RM433
WD 1TB RM199
Liteon 900S 256GB RM429
SEASONIC S12ll620 620W RM319
CM Hyper 212X RM169
NZXT S340 RM295

RM5168

2nd Option if ur software BOTH CPU and GPU intensive

intel i7-4790K RM1282
GIGABYTE Z97-D3H RM472
KINGSTON VALUE RAM 16GB (8GBX2) RM470
DEEPCOOL MAELSTROM 120K RM199
THERMALTAKE H25 RM130
GAINWARD GTX970 REF RM1259
KINGSTON HYPER FURY X 240GB SSD RM410
WD 1TB RM199
SEASONIC S12ll620 620W RM319

RM4740
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Get Asus Z97-Pro Gamer RM662.50 instead... brows.gif
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Hi,

Purpose is for gaming and

about 2.8k Budget to build a CPU. I do not need the accessories like monitor, speaker and mouse.

Is it possible to get a powerful graphic at 2.8k budget?

Thanks!

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 399
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 114
Sapphire R7 265 2GB GDDR5 Dual-X - RM 589
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM 319
Aerocool V3X - RM 105

Total: RM 2009 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(Cable707 @ May 28 2015, 09:41 PM)
Change the psu to cheaper ones..maybe antec vp-550p @ viewnet RM199 or Hexa+ 550w RM169.
Then i3 can be changed to i5.GTX750Ti should be okay already for medium play.
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Heyy thanks for the suggestion!
But what's the difference between the i5 that you suggested ya?
is it i5 + weaker GPU + cheaper PSU for better multitasking & medium details, while i3 + better GPU + more exp PSU for better gaming experience?
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QUOTE(hahazero @ May 29 2015, 05:48 PM)
Hi,

Purpose is for gaming and

about 2.8k Budget to build a CPU. I do not need the accessories like monitor, speaker and mouse.

Is it possible to get a powerful graphic at 2.8k budget?

Thanks!
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
ZOTAC GTX970 REF. RM1240
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
FSP HEXA+ 550W - RM 189
Aerocool V3X - RM 105

RM2905

u can consider ASUS H81M-K - RM194 if budget is tight

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QUOTE(lemonish @ May 29 2015, 07:30 PM)
Heyy thanks for the suggestion!
But what's the difference between the i5 that you suggested ya?
is it i5 + weaker GPU + cheaper PSU for better multitasking & medium details, while i3 + better GPU + more exp PSU for better gaming experience?
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for gaming i5 versus i3, i5 wins on most games n multitasking,

as intel+Nvidia combo it not power hunger n will not stress PSU much,
just go with the cheaper PSU build,
antec n FSP brand is reliable,

u can spare some cash to get R9 270 at RM599
http://www.lelong.com.my/powercolor-turbod...6-05-Sale-P.htm

the FSP shud suffice as it state it oni require 500w min,
but if still on tight budget,
u can consider aerocool kcas 600w RM197 as alternative
(aerocool kcas not much a reliable brand but shud do gud)

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Hi sifu,
I want to upgrade my current GPU Asus Radeon HD6870
Reason: GPU fan too noisy (especially when above 50% fan speed), AMD GPU driver always restarted even during playing light graphic games (2.5D type of graphic... LEGO batman for example), extending screen to 32" LED TV...

My current personal rig now have this hardware:
Age: since april 2011
Intel i5-2400 3.1GHz
Asus P8H67-M LE (Socket LGA 1155)
PSU 550W
Asus Radeon HD6870 DCU
Ram 4GB
3 HDD WD Blue
DVD-RW
OS: Win7 64bit

For new GPU, it could capable to extend screen via HDMI (since DP not so popular with TV), lesser noise fan during high load.
Will my current rig capable for Nvidia GTX-970 upgrade? How about power consumption?

Thanx sifus
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QUOTE(dark_report @ May 29 2015, 09:00 PM)
Hi sifu,
I want to upgrade my current GPU Asus Radeon HD6870
Reason: GPU fan too noisy (especially when above 50% fan speed), AMD GPU driver always restarted even during playing light graphic games (2.5D type of graphic... LEGO batman for example), extending screen to 32" LED TV...

My current personal rig now have this hardware:
Age: since april 2011
Intel i5-2400 3.1GHz
Asus P8H67-M LE (Socket LGA 1155)
PSU 550W
Asus Radeon HD6870 DCU
Ram 4GB
3 HDD WD Blue
DVD-RW
OS: Win7 64bit

For new GPU, it could capable to extend screen via HDMI (since DP not so popular with TV), lesser noise fan during high load.
Will my current rig capable for Nvidia GTX-970 upgrade? How about power consumption?

Thanx sifus
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Good to go since you have PSU > 500W, but adding another 4GB RAM is recommended, 4GB RAM can barely keep up with latest triple AAA title.
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QUOTE(mod_po @ May 29 2015, 02:37 PM)
depends on ur software actly, what kind of 3d animation:

1st option if ur software is JUST cpu intensive

Intel Core i7 5820K RM1500
MSI X99S SLI Plus RM975
Kingston Value RAM 16GB DDR4 RM849
Gainward GTX750 RM433
WD 1TB RM199
Liteon 900S 256GB RM429
SEASONIC S12ll620 620W RM319
CM Hyper 212X RM169
NZXT S340 RM295

RM5168

2nd Option if ur software BOTH CPU and GPU intensive

intel i7-4790K RM1282
GIGABYTE Z97-D3H RM472
KINGSTON VALUE RAM 16GB (8GBX2) RM470
DEEPCOOL MAELSTROM 120K RM199
THERMALTAKE H25 RM130
GAINWARD GTX970 REF RM1259
KINGSTON HYPER FURY X 240GB SSD RM410
WD 1TB RM199
SEASONIC S12ll620 620W RM319

RM4740
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Thanks for the suggestion sifu mod_po!! Noted down. I can top up to 5.1k but I think 2nd option is much more better? The HDD can save because I already have 3 external HDD with me now 3TBs. N Coz i think my softwares are GPU intensive too.. hmm.. Softwares will mainly be Maya (animation pipeline/modelling & rigging & animating & rendering), 3DS Max (For simulations.. and render), After Effects / NUKE (Tracking & Compositing purpose).. the rest are probably some medium power consuming softwares like Premiere Pro, Sony Vegas, Photoshop and such!

oh ya i don't have monitor, maybe i can invest more on that? Any good monitor with color accuracy (maybe for printing and such?) Dell?

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QUOTE(Gmruleme @ May 29 2015, 11:36 PM)
Thanks for the suggestion sifu mod_po!! Noted down. I can top up to 5.1k but I think 2nd option is much more better? The HDD can save because I already have 3 external HDD with me now 3TBs.  N Coz i think my softwares are GPU intensive too.. hmm.. Softwares will mainly be Maya (animation pipeline/modelling & rigging & animating & rendering), 3DS Max (For simulations.. and render), After Effects / NUKE (Tracking & Compositing purpose).. the rest are probably some medium power consuming softwares like Premiere Pro, Sony Vegas, Photoshop and such!

oh ya i don't have monitor, maybe i can invest more on that? Any good monitor with color accuracy (maybe for printing and such?) Dell?
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so far for LGA1150 build, i7-4790k is the best u can get,

im not familiar with Maya, can u verify it first either GPU or CPU consuming,
u can monitor it thru ur current rig, runs few renderings n works,
see which between cpu n gpu usage throttle..........

because that is GTX970 u're getting, (u might ended buying stuff u cannot fully utilize if not much research)
havent exp any from my rendering software (vray, keyshot, revit, lumion..etc) that can utilise a single GPU to the max,
but on the CPU, yup.. when renderings it push up to 99% usage

good color??
i have exp oni on DELL S2340L ips RM689,
very2 recomended!!
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hi sifus,

I want to build a rig with a budget under 5k. Just rig only. Would u all kindly help me. haha..

Thx!
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hi sifus,

I want to build a rig with a budget under 5k. Just rig only. Would u all kindly help me. haha..

Thx!
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Gaming or workstation or both?
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greetings,

I need an idea about mini itx gaming build (CPU oni)..
no overcloacking, prefer an I3 build..will be using Cooler Master Casing Mini-ITX ELITE 130..budget 1.5-2k.

thanks in advance..
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QUOTE(SAB2811X @ May 30 2015, 07:53 AM)
greetings,

I need an idea about mini itx gaming build (CPU oni)..
no overcloacking, prefer an I3 build..will be using Cooler Master Casing Mini-ITX ELITE 130..budget 1.5-2k.

thanks in advance..
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Intel Core i3 4160 - RM 429
Asrock B85M-ITX - RM 329
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX750 2GB DDR5 OC - RM 499
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Antec VP 500 - RM 159
CM Elite 130 - RM 179

Total: RM 2008 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 30 2015, 01:14 AM)
Gaming or workstation or both?
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HTPC and gaming only..
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Gaming or workstation or both?
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Mostly for gaming. However might use for a bit rendering but mostly low demand.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 30 2015, 09:29 AM)
Intel Core i3 4160 - RM 429
Asrock B85M-ITX - RM 329
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Leadtek GTX750 2GB DDR5 OC - RM 499
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Antec VP 500 - RM 159
CM Elite 130 - RM 179

Total: RM 2008 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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Thanks, will look into it..btw does the mobo come with wifi adapter? if using performance RAM, will it make a difference?
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Hi sifus,
can I ask for advise for building a rig around 1.5k? (Only the rig, nothing will be reused) Mostly for family use(youtube, web browsing, microsoft word & excel) and gaming like dota 2, LoL, NFS, COD:AW. Just want the games to be playable and smooth. This is what I have in mind now:

Intel G3258
MSI H81M-P33
8GB DDR3
R7 250X 2GB
500GB HDD
FSP Hexa 550
DVD-RW Drive

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(SAB2811X @ May 30 2015, 11:54 AM)
Thanks, will look into it..btw does the mobo come with wifi adapter? if using performance RAM, will it make a difference?
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Nope, you can top up a bit for Asrock H97M-ITX/ac to get a mobo with wifi adapter. Performance RAM won't give any significant boost in performance, since you are tight in budget, value RAM will do the job just fine.
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QUOTE(y2ou @ May 30 2015, 11:34 AM)
Mostly for gaming. However might use for a bit rendering but mostly low demand.
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 349
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX980 4GB GDDR5 Super JetStream - RM 2183
Seasonic M12II Evo 620W - RM 379
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
CM Hyper 212X - RM 169
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 5006 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

or alternative build with overclockable processor, but if gaming is first priority, the build above is better or you can wait for GTX980Ti or new AMD card which will come out next month or so.

Intel Core i7 4790k - RM 1299
Asus Z97 PRO GAMER - RM 636
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 JetStream - RM 1377
Seasonic M12II Evo 620W - RM 379
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Water 3.0 Pro - RM 309
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 4977 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 30 2015, 12:36 PM)
Nope, you can top up a bit for Asrock H97M-ITX/ac to get a mobo with wifi adapter. Performance RAM won't give any significant boost in performance, since you are tight in budget, value RAM will do the job just fine.
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QUOTE(mod_po @ May 30 2015, 01:09 AM)
so far for LGA1150 build, i7-4790k is the best u can get,

im not familiar with Maya, can u verify it first either GPU or CPU consuming,
u can monitor it thru ur current rig, runs few renderings n works,
see which between cpu n gpu usage throttle..........

because that is GTX970 u're getting, (u might ended buying stuff u cannot fully utilize if not much research)
havent exp any from my rendering software (vray, keyshot, revit, lumion..etc) that can utilise a single GPU to the max,
but on the CPU, yup.. when renderings it push up to 99% usage

good color??
i have exp oni on DELL S2340L ips RM689,
very2 recomended!!
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I think can be both GPU n CPU consuming.. CPU when rendering, GPU aids a lot when you are live-previewing an animation in real time? or real time playback blink.gif !! (this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3qr7PTEcNQ)

One last question is about the power usage.. just takut my bill will suddenly rocket-high.. so far have no experience using desktop yet so im not sure about the electric usage

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QUOTE(awys @ May 30 2015, 12:16 PM)
Hi sifus,
can I ask for advise for building a rig around 1.5k? (Only the rig, nothing will be reused) Mostly for family use(youtube, web browsing, microsoft word & excel) and gaming like dota 2, LoL, NFS, COD:AW. Just want the games to be playable and smooth. This is what I have in mind now:

Intel G3258
MSI H81M-P33
8GB DDR3
R7 250X 2GB
500GB HDD
FSP Hexa 550
DVD-RW Drive

Thanks in advance.
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Change the processor to i3 to have a better performance in gaming with the help of hyperthreading. And the price difference between 500GB and 1TB HDD is small, suggest you to top up a bit for 1TB instead.
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@terence_nwb just wait for 980Ti around 2.8~3k+
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QUOTE(Gmruleme @ May 30 2015, 01:37 PM)
I think can be both GPU n CPU consuming.. CPU when rendering, GPU aids a lot when you are live-previewing an animation in real time? or real time playback  blink.gif !! (this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3qr7PTEcNQ)

One last question is about the power usage.. just takut my bill will suddenly rocket-high.. so far have no experience using desktop yet so im not sure about the electric usage
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when the PSU rated 1000w, doesnt mean it draw 1000w all the time,
it mean that i can draw up to max + - 1000watt from the wall unit when on demand by the usage,

so dun worry,
it only consume amount of energy watt the rig nid on certain2 usage,
but when idle, it will not draw max
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 30 2015, 12:55 PM)
Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 349
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX980 4GB GDDR5 Super JetStream - RM 2183
Seasonic M12II Evo 620W - RM 379
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
CM Hyper 212X - RM 169
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 5006 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

or alternative build with overclockable processor, but if gaming is first priority, the build above is better or you can wait for GTX980Ti or new AMD card which will come out next month or so.

Intel Core i7 4790k - RM 1299
Asus Z97 PRO GAMER - RM 636
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 JetStream - RM 1377
Seasonic M12II Evo 620W - RM 379
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Water 3.0 Pro - RM 309
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 4977 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)
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Nice price and specs but in KK city not much choice to choose with. Plus the prices are not quite expensive. Sigh...
I can learn to assemble the components myself but I don't know whether I can order it online and deliver here safely.
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Nice price and specs but in KK city not much choice to choose with. Plus the prices are not quite expensive. Sigh...
I can learn to assemble the components myself but I don't know whether I can order it online and deliver here safely.
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if that the case,
it is most economical solution is going thru ON9,
i bet shops in KK will overcharge u!! better not.....

i highly recomend u techview and Gbros as their price cheaper

http://www.lelong.com.my/Merchant/techview.htm
http://www.lelong.com.my/merchant/Default....mart&show=Terms

and also u can consider Idealtech, they have a very2 good after sale service
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Change the processor to i3 to have a better performance in gaming with the help of hyperthreading. And the price difference between 500GB and 1TB HDD is small, suggest you to top up a bit for 1TB instead.
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So is anyone going to give suggestions or am I just going to have to learn do it myself? I thought this thread is to help those who need it.
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QUOTE(Furanshisu @ May 27 2015, 07:25 PM)
It's not for work. For gaming. So I asked for suggestions to upgrade it. Budget around RM500.
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looking at the spec,
there nothing worth spending on upgrading it since the is already age enough

sorry bro..

even if upgrade,
it will be bottlenecked so much

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QUOTE(mod_po @ May 29 2015, 07:40 PM)
for gaming i5 versus i3, i5 wins on most games n multitasking,

as intel+Nvidia combo it not power hunger n will not stress PSU much,
just go with the cheaper PSU build,
antec n FSP brand is reliable,

u can spare some cash to get R9 270 at RM599
http://www.lelong.com.my/powercolor-turbod...6-05-Sale-P.htm

the FSP shud suffice as it state it oni require 500w min,
but if still on tight budget,
u can consider aerocool kcas 600w RM197 as alternative
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Hi all sifus I need urgent help. I have just recently upgraded my gaming rig to spec below. All parts are new except for PSU which is 5 years old. It all went well for a few days, then today suddenly my PC can't boot properly. The MoBo has this odd beep for 5 times when I turn on the power, and it won't boot with total black screen. Out of 10 tries, at least 8 will be like that.

Can any sifu guide me on this? Could it be the PSU too old?

CPU: Xeon E3 1231
MoBo: Asrock z87 Fatal1ty Killer
GPU: MSI GTX 970 OC Tiger
PSU: Epsilon 80plus 600 (5 years)

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QUOTE(kopicat123 @ May 30 2015, 07:52 PM)
Hi all sifus I need urgent help. I have just recently upgraded my gaming rig to spec below. All parts are new except for PSU which is 5 years old. It all went well for a few days, then today suddenly my PC can't boot properly. The MoBo has this odd beep for 5 times when I turn on the power, and it won't boot with total black screen. Out of 10 tries, at least 8 will be like that.

Can any sifu guide me on this? Could it be the PSU too old?

CPU: Xeon E3 1231
MoBo: Asrock z87 Fatal1ty Killer
GPU: MSI GTX 970 OC Tiger
PSU: Epsilon 80plus 600 (5 years)
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Try reseating all components.
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QUOTE(mod_po @ May 30 2015, 04:18 PM)
looking at the spec,
there nothing worth spending on upgrading it since the is already age enough

sorry bro..

even if upgrade,
it will be bottlenecked so much
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Guess it'll stay for office work then. tongue.gif thanks.
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Hi Sifus,

Not sure if I should start a new thread for this. I thought I should just save bandwidth or whatever and just ask here instead of starting a new thread.

SO I am thinking of my next upgrade (planning for the future, probably in 3 months time give or take.

Would it be more beneficial to aim for SSD or should I get another 8Gb RAM?

I read that extra RAM doesn't necessary speed things up if you don't multitask a lot. And I don't usually leave other browsers or apps on when i am gaming.

So it seems like I would benefit more from an SSD instead? (looking at Samsung 850 Evo 120 Gb. Or anyone can suggest any alternatives?

My specs
Core i5-4460
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Thank you sifus for input
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hi to all sifu's here, i need recommended for rig pc for video editing, gaming (fifa/fifa manager) not the heavy games and movies. i prefer i7 processor and 27" ++ monitor, budget around 5k for rig and can u suggest the best monitor...i dont care about the price if it have the best quality. tq
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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 31 2015, 08:38 AM)
Hi Sifus,

Not sure if I should start a new thread for this. I thought I should just save bandwidth or whatever and just ask here instead of starting a new thread.

SO I am thinking of my next upgrade (planning for the future, probably in 3 months time give or take.

Would it be more beneficial to aim for SSD or should I get another 8Gb RAM?

I read that extra RAM doesn't necessary speed things up if you don't multitask a lot. And I don't usually leave other browsers or apps on when i am gaming.

So it seems like I would benefit more from an SSD instead? (looking at Samsung 850 Evo 120 Gb. Or anyone can suggest any alternatives?

My specs
Core i5-4460
Asrock H97 pro4
D3 1600Mhz kingston 8gb
1TB Caviar Blue
Capstone 650w
zotac gtx 970 ref

Thank you sifus for input
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ur spec look good. 8gb ram is min requirement standard. ssd like LITE-ON S900 currently is cheaper or u take plextor ssd. samsung evo not really worth it at all no need consider. if u bias on samsung go for PRO but really expensive.
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QUOTE(kaiser1098 @ May 31 2015, 11:23 AM)
hi to all sifu's here, i need recommended for rig pc for video editing, gaming (fifa/fifa manager) not the heavy games and movies. i prefer i7 processor and 27" ++ monitor, budget around 5k for rig and can u suggest the best monitor...i dont care about the price if it have the best quality. tq
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Intel Core i7 4790K - RM 1299
Asus Z97 PRO GAMER - RM 636
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM x2 - RM 438
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 379
Corsair Hydro H55 - RM 249
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 5030 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

As for monitor choice, Dell is one of the best choices as the colors of their monitor are really vibrant and attractive.

Dell S2715H IPS - RM 1189 (Not matte screen tho)
Dell U2715H IPS - RM 2399 (Superb quality, matte screen and ultra thin bezel)

If you want to get a 144Hz monitor, Gsync monitor such as Asus PG278Q and Acer XB270H are good choice too.


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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 31 2015, 11:45 AM)
ur spec look good. 8gb ram is min requirement standard. ssd like LITE-ON S900 currently is cheaper or u take plextor ssd. samsung evo not really worth it at all no need consider. if u bias on samsung go for PRO but really expensive.
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Thanks Sifu notworthy.gif

That's why headache now. I have the rig with the above specs already. So now thinking whether to get SSD or extra 8Gb RAM as next upgrade. Because I know after I get that upgrade, I won't be buying any parts for quite some time. So trying to weigh the pros and cons of getting an SSD or 8Gb RAM.


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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 31 2015, 02:48 PM)
Thanks Sifu notworthy.gif

That's why headache now. I have the rig with the above specs already. So now thinking whether to get SSD or extra 8Gb RAM as next upgrade. Because I know after I get that upgrade, I won't be buying any parts for quite some time. So trying to weigh the pros and cons of getting an SSD or 8Gb RAM.
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no need take extra 8gb expect u got doin heavy rendering video task. 2 stick ram got more issue than single while currently 8gb is more than enough but u can upgrade in future so now just spend abit of money on any ssd u like under ur budget. any ssd will do improve the performance. i think mostly will suggest u get ssd 1st. ssd is a must item.
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Try reseating all components.
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I think I might have found a solution online, by changing the PCI-E setting in Bios for my GPU from "Auto" to "Gen-3". So far so good icon_rolleyes.gif

One question, I realize that temparature of my GTX-970 at full load always hover between 80c to 90c. May I know if that's normal? Perhaps someone can advice me on suitable cooler for GPU? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(kopicat123 @ May 31 2015, 05:27 PM)
I think I might have found a solution online, by changing the PCI-E setting in Bios for my GPU from "Auto" to "Gen-3". So far so good  icon_rolleyes.gif

One question, I realize that temparature of my GTX-970 at full load always hover between 80c to 90c. May I know if that's normal? Perhaps someone can advice me on suitable cooler for GPU?  notworthy.gif
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If your GTX970 is reference model then the temp is acceptable, if it is not reference model, it's quite high for me, make sure airflow is good in your case. If you want to make it even cooler, try liquid cooling but it is not cheap.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 31 2015, 05:41 PM)
If your GTX970 is reference model then the temp is acceptable, if it is not reference model, it's quite high for me, make sure airflow is good in your case. If you want to make it even cooler, try liquid cooling but it is not cheap.
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It's a non-reference model, MSI GTX 970 OC Tiger cry.gif looks like I got to save some money to buy liquid cooler..
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QUOTE(kopicat123 @ May 31 2015, 05:27 PM)
I think I might have found a solution online, by changing the PCI-E setting in Bios for my GPU from "Auto" to "Gen-3". So far so good  icon_rolleyes.gif

One question, I realize that temparature of my GTX-970 at full load always hover between 80c to 90c. May I know if that's normal? Perhaps someone can advice me on suitable cooler for GPU?  notworthy.gif
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970 normally have a temperature control and throttle at below 85 degree Celsius, 90 is definitely out of the range already. Check your settings in MSI afterburner.

Improve on your cable management and air inflow.

Use afterburner to ramp up the fan speed to 70% if it hasn't already reach that.

Lastly, contact MSI regarding this and enquire if they allow you to repaste the thermal paste yourself without RMA it.

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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ May 31 2015, 02:48 PM)
Thanks Sifu notworthy.gif

That's why headache now. I have the rig with the above specs already. So now thinking whether to get SSD or extra 8Gb RAM as next upgrade. Because I know after I get that upgrade, I won't be buying any parts for quite some time. So trying to weigh the pros and cons of getting an SSD or 8Gb RAM.
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go with ngkhanmein suggestion.

u would benefit more from ssd than another 16gb of ram.
u can also feel the real world different with ssd. faster boot up, less loading time. time is gold brows.gif
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[Budget]
RM5k?
[Purpose]
Intense gaming (MMORPG + GTA V + Witcher 3)
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None D:
[Monitor resolution]
1080p? I doubt 4k in this era is still quite viable
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
FFXIV (thats for myself, maybe can tunpang get 1 desktop as well hehe), GTA V, Witcher 3
[Personal preferences]
None I suppose?
[Location]
Penang

and I still need to install OS as well as I need a monitor too.. Mouse and kb have dy, speakers also got dy.

Thanks all sifu biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ May 31 2015, 11:45 PM)
Helping my younger bro to ask abt this one tongue.gif

[Budget]
RM5k?
[Purpose]
Intense gaming (MMORPG + GTA V + Witcher 3)
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None D:
[Monitor resolution]
1080p? I doubt 4k in this era is still quite viable
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
FFXIV (thats for myself, maybe can tunpang get 1 desktop as well hehe), GTA V, Witcher 3
[Personal preferences]
None I suppose?
[Location]
Penang

and I still need to install OS as well as I need a monitor too.. Mouse and kb have dy, speakers also got dy.

Thanks all sifu biggrin.gif
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 895
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 389
Gskill Aegis 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1429
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 559
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 329
Cryorig H7 - RM 169
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135
BenQ GL2450 - RM 479
Windows 7 Pro OEM - RM 200

Total: RM 5032 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST and free shipping to Penang)

They are selling Liteon S900 SSD but the price is not listed in their pricelist, but you can ask them to get that SSD instead of Samsung SSD as Liteon SSD is way cheaper than Samsung SSD and yet the performance is quite good too. You can get a cheaper reference version of GTX970 and put the extra money in other parts such as getting Windows 8.1 instead of Windows 7/upgrade to a better looking chassis/better monitor and etc.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 1 2015, 01:03 AM)
Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 895
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 389
Gskill Aegis 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1429
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 559
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 329
Cryorig H7 - RM 169
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135
BenQ GL2450 - RM 479
Windows 7 Pro OEM - RM 200

Total: RM 5032 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST and free shipping to Penang)

They are selling Liteon S900 SSD but the price is not listed in their pricelist, but you can ask them to get that SSD instead of Samsung SSD as Liteon SSD is way cheaper than Samsung SSD and yet the performance is quite good too. You can get a cheaper reference version of GTX970 and put the extra money in other parts such as getting Windows 8.1 instead of Windows 7/upgrade to a better looking chassis/better monitor and etc.
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I myself can add in another 1-1.5k more... so its abt 6.5k for me.. can you give me any recommendations? :3 Is it worth waiting for GTX980Ti to release??
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 31 2015, 11:45 AM)
ur spec look good. 8gb ram is min requirement standard. ssd like LITE-ON S900 currently is cheaper or u take plextor ssd. samsung evo not really worth it at all no need consider. if u bias on samsung go for PRO but really expensive.
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Yes, I am aiming for cheaper SSD. There's another Lite-On that's cheaper than S900. Is that worth it? I am looking at Czone's price list. Are there any other cheap recommended brands besides Lite-on and Plextor?
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Yes, I am aiming for cheaper SSD. There's another Lite-On that's cheaper than S900. Is that worth it? I am looking at Czone's price list. Are there any other cheap recommended brands besides Lite-on and Plextor?
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Transcend and Crucial (may not be as cheap sometimes).
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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ Jun 1 2015, 08:56 AM)
I myself can add in another 1-1.5k more... so its abt 6.5k for me.. can you give me any recommendations? :3 Is it worth waiting for GTX980Ti to release??
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Wait for the GTX980Ti and AMD 300 series to release,should be a week or two away. brows.gif

You can add in CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM95 and probably the 620W of the Seasonic M12II Evo PSU at RM379. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 1 2015, 09:51 AM)
Wait for the GTX980Ti and AMD 300 series to release,should be a week or two away. brows.gif

You can add in CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM95 and probably the 620W of the Seasonic M12II Evo PSU at RM379. nod.gif
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Alright.. Thanks... Whats the expected price for the GTX980Ti?
hope it wouldnt be too expensive..
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Alright.. Thanks... Whats the expected price for the GTX980Ti?
hope it wouldnt be too expensive..
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MSRP is RM 2799 for reference version, Techview is doing pre order now with special price of RM 2599, ETA is 15-20 Jun.
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Alright.. Thanks... Whats the expected price for the GTX980Ti?
hope it wouldnt be too expensive..
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SRP is about 650 USD. Maybe 2.6, 2.7k MYR
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Alright.. Thanks... Whats the expected price for the GTX980Ti?
hope it wouldnt be too expensive..
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Cheapest GTX980Ti i've seen so far is the Zotac GTX980Ti Reference 6GB GDDR5 RM2599 from Techview,that's the pre-order price though,SRP is RM2799.

Not sure which one will IdealTech bring in.
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Will the GTX980Ti be bottlenecked if i use with Xeon E3 1231?
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MSRP is RM 2799 for reference version, Techview is doing pre order now with special price of RM 2599, ETA is 15-20 Jun.
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SRP is about 650 USD. Maybe 2.6, 2.7k MYR
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Cheapest GTX980Ti i've seen so far is the Zotac GTX980Ti Reference 6GB GDDR5 RM2599 from Techview,that's the pre-order price though,SRP is RM2799.

Not sure which one will IdealTech bring in.
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Sifu, have anyone tried buying graphic card from amazon. This is the amazon link http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Super-C...eywords=gtx+970

They provide free shipping to malaysia. And if I convert the US dollar to Malaysian dollar using current citibank conversion rate, I can still safe a bout 250 ringgit. Have anyone tried to do this before? And will there be any gst charge at the kastam?

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QUOTE(ikhwan1 @ Jun 1 2015, 11:52 AM)
Sifu, have anyone tried buying graphic card from amazon. This is the amazon link http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Super-C...eywords=gtx+970

They provide free shipping to malaysia. And if I convert the US dollar to Malaysian dollar using current citibank conversion rate, I can still safe a bout 250 ringgit. Have anyone tried to do this before? And will there be any gst charge at the kastam?
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Free shipping from foreign site rarely for international.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/help/id=sss/ref=aw_d_sss_pc

Even if they do, Malaysia also never on the list (except may be Aliexpress). On some occasion SG will be in the list though.

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Hello guys helping a friend to build pc.

Range :rm2k with monitor
Purpose : gaming
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QUOTE(Ethanz20 @ Jun 1 2015, 09:42 PM)
Hello guys helping a friend to build pc.

Range :rm2k with monitor
Purpose : gaming
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Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 399
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 189
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 119
Sapphire R7 260X 2GB GDDR5 - RM 499
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Antec VP500 - RM 159
Aerocool V3X - RM 105
Samsung S20D300FY monitor - RM 369

Total: RM 2033 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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Free shipping from foreign site rarely for international.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/help/id=sss/ref=aw_d_sss_pc

Even if they do, Malaysia also never on the list (except may be Aliexpress). On some occasion SG will be in the list though.
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I tried to order thru his link and got charged RM70++ shipping and delivery smile.gif

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I tried to order thru his link and got charged RM70++ shipping and delivery smile.gif
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so how much saving in total u've got to compare with local?
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so how much saving in total u've got to compare with local?
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Amazon total comes to 1374.09. When reach malaysia GST 6% =RM1456. Shipping alone is rm90.no free shipping for malaysia.
EVGA vs Zotec local, i think better just get Zotec. Warranty easier .
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Does EVGA website ship to malaysia?
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can i pair it with other type/brand 7970 ghz card ?
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wta if i have

sapphire 7970 ghz edition vapor x

can i pair it with other type/brand 7970 ghz  card ?
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Yes, you can even pair it with R9 280X (7970 rebrand) or even more powerful cards if you want since AMD Crossfire don't limit you too same cards.

But one thing, do make sure you have at least 2x PCIE 3.0 slots running at X8 to reach the optimal performance, such mobo usually only start from RM400 and above.
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sapphire 7970 ghz edition vapor x

can i pair it with other type/brand 7970 ghz  card ?
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even hd7970 can pair with hd7950,

but take note that the speed will be tuned down to match the slowest card
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Hello all. Csn u all suggest a good rig with a budget rm3000? Solely for using autocad,matlab,latex, maybe need to render abit for research.

Thanks.
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Hello all. Csn u all suggest a good rig with a budget rm3000? Solely for using autocad,matlab,latex, maybe need to render abit for research.

Thanks.
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM x2 - RM 438
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 499
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 319
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
CM TX3 EVO - RM 99
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 3002 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 2 2015, 11:29 PM)
Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM x2 - RM 438
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 499
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 319
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
CM TX3 EVO - RM 99
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 3002 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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Do gpu is needed for the task? Or cpu is suffice?
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Do gpu is needed for the task? Or cpu is suffice?
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Some softwares do use it a little.

Another thing is the Xeon in the build had no iGPU, so you can't use it without a discrete GPU.

If you seriously don't want a discrete GPU, dump it and the Xeon and slot in a i7 4790.
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QUOTE(phantom_zero @ Jun 2 2015, 11:38 PM)
Do gpu is needed for the task? Or cpu is suffice?
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Xeon doesn't come with iGPU so a discrete GPU is needed unless you go for locked i7 4790 at slightly higher price. Rendering and autocad do use GPU power to accelerate the process, but if you don't want to spend money on GPU, it's ok also, since the main processing power still come from CPU itself.
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QUOTE(mod_po @ Jun 2 2015, 11:04 PM)
yup they can,
even hd7970 can pair with hd7950,

but take note that the speed will be tuned down to match the slowest card
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noted

but will the performance drop more if im using the old board such msi p55-gd65.
my 2nd rig only pcie 2.0
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QUOTE(Hezegroth @ Jun 3 2015, 05:59 AM)
noted

but will the performance drop more if im using the old board such msi p55-gd65.
my 2nd rig only pcie 2.0
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Technically gen2.0 x8 is still pretty acceptable for today's standard, but SLI/Crossfire rarely provide decent experience than getting a new card,
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/I...Scaling/23.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/...Scaling/21.html

We don't usually suggest SLI/Crossfire unless for top of the line cards fresh at the market.

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hi can anyone suggest a pc rig which includes the following:

1. complete CPU (proc, 8gb ram, etc.) including the casing
2. mouse & keyboard
3. 24 inch monitor
4. speaker 2.1

looking to stretch all this with the budget of RM4,000. thx

p.s: mostly use for playing the latest games
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Jun 3 2015, 12:12 PM)
hi can anyone suggest a pc rig which includes the following:

1. complete CPU (proc, 8gb ram, etc.) including the casing
2. mouse & keyboard
3. 24 inch monitor
4. speaker 2.1

looking to stretch all this with the budget of RM4,000. thx

p.s: mostly use for playing the latest games
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Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 319
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135
BenQ GL2450-B monitor - RM 479
Logitech Wired MK100 - RM 39
Edifier R101V 2.1 - RM 90

Total: RM 3984 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 3 2015, 01:46 PM)
Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 319
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135
BenQ GL2450-B monitor - RM 479
Logitech Wired MK100 - RM 39
Edifier R101V 2.1 - RM 90

Total: RM 3984 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)
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thx bro, really appreciate it. is Xeon better than i5?
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Jun 3 2015, 02:19 PM)
thx bro, really appreciate it. is Xeon better than i5?
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Yup, that Xeon is on par with i7 4790 with slightly lower clock speed and no iGPU
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Jun 3 2015, 02:19 PM)
thx bro, really appreciate it. is Xeon better than i5?
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ofcourse

4core 4thread vs 4core 8thread
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Need some suggestion~

Budget: RM2000 - RM2500

Purpose: a litlle gaming like Sims 4 and work

Monitor resolution: LED 21 inch expensive?

Personal preferences: Intel, 1TB HDD, DVD drive

Location: KL

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QUOTE(ashraful @ Jun 3 2015, 04:58 PM)
Need some suggestion~

Budget: RM2000 - RM2500

Purpose: a litlle gaming like Sims 4 and work

Monitor resolution: LED 21 inch expensive?

Personal preferences: Intel, 1TB HDD, DVD drive

Location: KL
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Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM644.48
Asrock H81M-VG4 RM178.08
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 RM567.10 - StormX OC or StormX Dual.
Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM209
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
FSP Hexa+ 550W RM199
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Samsung S22C170BS RM402.80
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total:RM2583.46
Prices with cents are from Jayacom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

If you want a cheaper build,cut down the GPU to Palit GTX750 StormX OC 1GB GDDR5 RM434.60. wink.gif

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Thanks~!

oops.. i missed something. i need a monitor as well at least 23inch?
and a speaker

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Thanks~!

oops.. i missed something. i need a monitor as well at least 23inch?
and a speaker
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Change the build suggested by Minecrafter to BenQ GL2450-B @RM 479 and cheap Edifier 2.0 speaker ~RM 35 or 2.1 speaker ~RM 90
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hey guys,

need some suggestion rig, just cpu, no need monitor or anything, will recycle current one.
-purpose is for graphic use, designing, rendering, movies n perhaps small server
-include water coolant (or u guys can suggest other coolant, as i will run it like 24/7 [perhaps])
-budget 3k

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QUOTE(hertz9511 @ Jun 3 2015, 07:44 PM)
hey guys,

need some suggestion rig, just cpu, no need monitor or anything, will recycle current one.
-purpose is for graphic use, designing, rendering, movies n perhaps small server
-include water coolant (or u guys can suggest other coolant, as i will run it like 24/7 [perhaps])
-budget 3k

thanks in advance smile.gif
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renderings eeaa?? what software u use? is it 3d renderings or graphic design?

u dun nid water cooler, just normal air cooler just fine,

Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM- RM438
Zotac GTX960 - RM 750
FSP Hexa+ 550W RM189
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135
CM Hyper212X RM169

RM3113

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QUOTE(mod_po @ Jun 3 2015, 07:54 PM)
renderings eeaa?? what software u use? is it 3d renderings or graphic design?

u dun nid water cooler, just normal air cooler just fine,

Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 289
Kingston 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM- RM438
Zotac GTX960 - RM 750
FSP Hexa+ 550W RM189
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135
CM Hyper212X RM169

RM3113
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mostly it would be graphic rendering, photoshop,ai,premier
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QUOTE(hertz9511 @ Jun 3 2015, 08:05 PM)
mostly it would be graphic rendering, photoshop,ai,premier
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so what i've quote u above shud do gud,
if u mind that xtra 100bucks,
just swap the GPU with GTX750ti around RM540 as gpu doesnt contribute much on graphic design
as per PS/Ai use it nid that 16GB ram as they r RAM consuming

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QUOTE(mod_po @ Jun 3 2015, 08:08 PM)
so what i've quote u above shud do gud,
if u mind that xtra 100bucks,
just swap the GPU with GTX750ti around RM540 as gpu doesnt contribute much on graphic design
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Thank you so much for ur suggestion, really appreciate it
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Is this the right thread for me to ask for a Q&A on personal server spec?

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Is this the right thread for me to ask for a Q&A on personal server spec?

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this thread is for answering question on spec quotation,
so most probably, yes
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Playing to buy a new desktop for gaming
Aiming at playing Witcher 3
May I know with budget 3k possible to get one?

My old desktop
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2gb ram
ati hd5770 sapphire

Possible to upgrade my old one?? Or better buy new system??

Thanks for the help!!
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QUOTE(LiMcZ @ Jun 4 2015, 08:45 AM)
Playing to buy a new desktop for gaming
Aiming at playing Witcher 3
May I know with budget 3k possible to get one?

My old desktop
i3-530
2gb ram
ati hd5770 sapphire

Possible to upgrade my old one?? Or better buy new system??

Thanks for the help!!
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 3056 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

CPU and GPU are too old, the only usable part is RAM, HDD, PSU and case, suggest you to get a new rig instead.
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Any recommendation for keyboard + mouse

budget mouse 150, keyboard 250

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 4 2015, 11:35 AM)
Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 3056 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

CPU and GPU are too old, the only usable part is RAM, HDD, PSU and case, suggest you to get a new rig instead.
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Thanks for the reply

Can it handle Witcher 3 smoothly?
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Thanks for the reply

Can it handle Witcher 3 smoothly?
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Depends on what settings you are going to play, high settings with nvidia hairworks off should be able to achieve 50-60fps.

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Hi guys, need suggestions for RM4k gaming rig. Just CPU no need keyboard mouse and LCD.
Thinking of going 16GB of RAM. Too much?


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QUOTE(lytros @ Jun 4 2015, 04:55 PM)
Hi guys, need suggestions for RM4k gaming rig. Just CPU no need keyboard mouse and LCD.
Thinking of going 16GB of RAM. Too much?
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Yup 16gb would b almost overkill for gaming,
but i just quote is for u

Intel Xeon 1231 v3 - RM 949
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 438
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
liteon 900s 240GB RM429
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

RM3984

U can consider more reliable psu like seasonic s12ii 620 RM349

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QUOTE(lytros @ Jun 4 2015, 04:55 PM)
Hi guys, need suggestions for RM4k gaming rig. Just CPU no need keyboard mouse and LCD.
Thinking of going 16GB of RAM. Too much?
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If purely gaming, 8GB RAM is enough for now but no harm going to 16GB RAM if you have budget.

Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM x2 - RM 438
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 319
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 4104 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

Slightly overbudget with 16GB RAM, if you mind then remove the extra 8GB RAM and the rest of the money can be use to buy better case/non-reference GPU etc.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 4 2015, 05:08 PM)
If purely gaming, 8GB RAM is enough for now but no harm going to 16GB RAM if you have budget.

Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 949
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM x2 - RM 438
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 319
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 4104 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

Slightly overbudget with 16GB RAM, if you mind then remove the extra 8GB RAM and the rest of the money can be use to buy better case/non-reference GPU etc.
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I have a thot,
which combo btter?
xeon+gtx970 or i5+gtx980?
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is the $50 price cut for 980 will be enforce in malaysia too? because EU wont get the price cut.
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is there any other case that show only 1 ssd mount on the side of psu shroud like the new phanteks evolv atx case?
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post Jun 4 2015, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(ikhwan1 @ Jun 4 2015, 05:23 PM)
is the $50 price cut for 980 will be enforce in malaysia too? because EU wont get the price cut.
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$50 = RM185.01,probably RM185 they don't want to put in the cent. biggrin.gif

I've no idea,but they should do it since NVidia said so.
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post Jun 4 2015, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(mod_po @ Jun 4 2015, 05:12 PM)
I have a thot,
which combo btter?
xeon+gtx970 or i5+gtx980?
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If purely gaming i5 + 980 is better but that's more expensive than Xeon + 970.
yorusama
post Jun 4 2015, 06:07 PM

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[Budget] RM3500++

[Purpose] Gaming+ App Development + Graphic Design (work + games)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Need CPU, keyboard+ mouse+ headset+monitor+ speaker already owned.

[Monitor resolution] 2560x1440 << already owned

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Games: Tera, Witcher 3, Skyrim Work: PhotoShop, Inkscape, Android studios

[Personal preferences] Something that I will be able to upgrade later in time. would like to have a dedicated SSD too

[Location] KL
terence_nwb
post Jun 4 2015, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(yorusama @ Jun 4 2015, 06:07 PM)
[Budget] RM3500++

[Purpose] Gaming+ App Development + Graphic Design (work + games)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Need CPU, keyboard+ mouse+ headset+monitor+ speaker already owned.

[Monitor resolution] 2560x1440 << already owned

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Games: Tera, Witcher 3, Skyrim    Work: PhotoShop, Inkscape, Android studios

[Personal preferences] Something that I will be able to upgrade later in time. would like to have a dedicated SSD too

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 669
Asrock H97 Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 219
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1271
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 194
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 135

Total: RM 3056 (GPU is from Cycom, others are from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

3k budget with SSD is not recommended, if you insist to have an SSD then you need downgrade to GTX960 but gaming on 1440p on GTX960 is not really ideal. Alternatively, you can switch to MSI R9 290X Lightning which has real 4GB VRAM to pair with your 1440p monitor but you need a better PSU if you make this switch.
eugenelimys
post Jun 4 2015, 07:06 PM

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Hehe... Gonna ask again for myself :3

[Budget]
7.5k
[Purpose]
Gaming biggrin.gif
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Kb, mouse and speakers
[Monitor resolution]
No monitor
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
FFXIV
[Personal preferences]
Aoc for monitor (not sure are they good or not), GTX980Ti for GPU
[Location]
Penang
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