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post Mar 14 2023, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(loonsave @ Mar 14 2023, 09:39 AM)
Thank you for clarification. Can I loop with Aqara Smart switch?
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Can use any smart switch as long as no Neutral needed.
'No Neutral' smart switch some models need 'bypass' capacitor install at load.
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post Mar 14 2023, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Max @ Mar 14 2023, 09:46 AM)
Can use any smart switch as long as no Neutral needed.
'No Neutral' smart switch some models need 'bypass' capacitor install at load.
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How to tell which models need 'bypass' capacitor? I am looking at Aqara E1 2 gang switch (No neutral).
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post Mar 14 2023, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(loonsave @ Mar 14 2023, 09:55 AM)
How to tell which models need 'bypass' capacitor? I am looking at Aqara E1 2 gang switch (No neutral).
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The zigbee E1 (no neutral) don’t need capacitors
It’s usually the wifi type that requires it

No neutral version generally doesn’t act as zigbee repeaters compared to neutral one (there was an exception for a specific tuya switch posted a few pages back)
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post Mar 15 2023, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 9 2023, 05:46 PM)
Tuya, they’ve got their hands on pretty much any smart device out there and inexpensive
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Oh thats great. thanks for recommendation i saw it is selling in shopee as well. Seems it's a good entry brand

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post Mar 20 2023, 10:58 PM

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what happen to tuya smart life? it's now tuya smart and smart life?

tuya smart by tuya inc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tuya.smart

smart life by volcano technology (i swear this was tuya last time)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...ife&hl=en&gl=US
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 20 2023, 10:58 PM)
what happen to tuya smart life? it's now tuya smart and smart life?

tuya smart by tuya inc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tuya.smart

smart life by volcano technology (i swear this was tuya last time)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...ife&hl=en&gl=US
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I wasn't even aware of the changes. All of my WiFi smart plugs are still connected when it asked me to login to the app again. Even before that I had no trouble turning on/off these smart plugs through Tuya Integration in Home Assistant

They must still be using Tuya API but not sure about the future of it though
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post Mar 20 2023, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 20 2023, 10:58 PM)
what happen to tuya smart life? it's now tuya smart and smart life?

tuya smart by tuya inc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tuya.smart

smart life by volcano technology (i swear this was tuya last time)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...ife&hl=en&gl=US
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when i started last year, there were already 2 separate apps "Tuya" and "Smart Life".
reading further, "Tuya" is meant for users in Mainland China, "Smart Life" is meant for outside Mainland China. This was told by the support personnel him/herself when I lodge complaint of not being able to log in to "Tuya".
the backend servers for each of the apps are separate.

when i wrote of the difference and mentioned that I was not allowed to login to "Tuya" because it's meant for Mainland China, some of you guys said I was confused and in the wrong.

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https://robotpoweredhome.com/tuya-vs-smart-life/

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post Mar 21 2023, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Mar 20 2023, 11:51 PM)
when i started last year, there were already 2 separate apps "Tuya" and "Smart Life".
reading further, "Tuya" is meant for users in Mainland China, "Smart Life" is meant for outside Mainland China. This was told by the support personnel him/herself when I lodge complaint of not being able to log in to "Tuya".
the backend servers for each of the apps are separate.

when i wrote of the difference and mentioned that I was not allowed to login to "Tuya" because it's meant for Mainland China, some of you guys said I was confused and in the wrong.

user posted image

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https://robotpoweredhome.com/tuya-vs-smart-life/
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Nonsense!
tuya/smartlife
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post Mar 21 2023, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Mar 21 2023, 12:16 AM)
it's nonsense from tuya.
i can login to the volcano app, but cannot login to the tuya app.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 21 2023, 07:54 AM)
it's nonsense from tuya.
i can login to the volcano app, but cannot login to the tuya app.
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2 separate backend. Have to create new account.
My bad luck; after account first on Tuya app, it then refused to allow login because Tuya app is for Mainland China. Support personnel him/herself told me.
Had to switch to Smart Life - and register anew.
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post Mar 21 2023, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Mar 20 2023, 11:51 PM)
when i started last year, there were already 2 separate apps "Tuya" and "Smart Life".
reading further, "Tuya" is meant for users in Mainland China, "Smart Life" is meant for outside Mainland China. This was told by the support personnel him/herself when I lodge complaint of not being able to log in to "Tuya".
the backend servers for each of the apps are separate.

when i wrote of the difference and mentioned that I was not allowed to login to "Tuya" because it's meant for Mainland China, some of you guys said I was confused and in the wrong.

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Dont be surprised. Sometimes it happens even to the best of companies.

Even Xiaomi did this previously. When they are still new, they would let international users login to their app and let consumers import devices from China. However, once they grew big enough, they would start to block international users and then develop another app meant for global users.

I think this is what happening with Tuya right now. I did have an account with them when I first installed some smart switches in my lights. I just reinstalled it and now it is asking to select country. When I look at the list and China was missing from the list, you already see they have begun to separate China servers from the rest of the world. I couldnt log in as well and have to create a new account again. In fact, the app now looks exactly like Smartlife app apart from the Tuya logo.
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post Mar 21 2023, 08:33 AM

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So we are unable to access Tuya Smart app? I have this orange app which I’m using for my retouch strip and GU10, still working for now.
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post Mar 21 2023, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 10:14 AM)
switching on my aircond when i am on my way back home

switching on my TV when I near to the house or upon timer setup

basically i control everything on IR remote such as TV, Astro
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I only have smart Aircond and some Phillips hue lights

Aircond is most important to me. Reach home feels like heaven from the hot weather and subpar continental air conditioning in my car
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 21 2023, 08:08 AM)
Dont be surprised. Sometimes it happens even to the best of companies.

Even Xiaomi did this previously. When they are still new, they would let international users login to their app and let consumers import devices from China. However, once they grew big enough, they would start to block international users and then develop another app meant for global users.

I think this is what happening with Tuya right now. I did have an account with them when I first installed some smart switches in my lights. I just reinstalled it and now it is asking to select country. When I look at the list and China was missing from the list, you already see they have begun to separate China servers from the rest of the world. I couldnt log in as well and have to create a new account again. In fact, the app now looks exactly like Smartlife app apart from the Tuya logo.
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So this does not mean Tuya app is exclusively for China only, just that they are adding region now to the app. Even UNV mobile app same issue, when first started few years ago there was no region & it defaulted to US server so I am stuck with a US server account & all my new customer need registered as US for me to share to them unless I removed all my previous NVR and redo ranting.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 21 2023, 08:33 AM)
So we are unable to access Tuya Smart app? I have this orange app which I’m using for my retouch strip and GU10, still working for now.
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Depends on when you register. It's just those who register much much earlier during those years where they did not specify region.
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most tech company in China prepared to be sanction by US.
like huawei n tiktok.

not surprised if they break the app for international users
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post Mar 21 2023, 08:08 PM

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Anyone got the aqara fp2?
Saw some feedback/comments on taobao but no one’s mentioning about fan detection
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 21 2023, 08:08 PM)
Anyone got the aqara fp2?
Saw some feedback/comments on taobao but no one’s mentioning about fan detection
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FP2 seems interesting. Saw lots of reddit threads on this. Pity its wired to a wall socket. I’m considering to get a mmwave sensor much like the FP1 and FP2, but from tuya, cos i saw one thats ceiling mountable, would look much neater, like a downlight. Not sure on the performance of it though. Pretty affordable at around RM160-ish without shipping.


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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Mar 21 2023, 10:23 AM)
most tech company in China prepared to be sanction by US.
like huawei n tiktok.

not surprised if they break the app for international users
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Hope not! I’ve got lots of Tuya devices in my Tuya app (and Apple Home) now.. would be a major pain to reset and add them to Smartlife
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 14 2023, 11:11 AM)
The zigbee E1 (no neutral) don’t need capacitors
It’s usually the wifi type that requires it

No neutral version generally doesn’t act as zigbee repeaters compared to neutral one (there was an exception for a specific tuya switch posted a few pages back)
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The E1’s are great. I’m using both the D1’s and the E1’s (both neutral and non-neutral). I particularly prefer the E1’s (even though they are cheaper) cos they have a small lip at the bottom, good looking design. Both offer good clicky response and have a matte finish.

Yup, no issues with the non-neutrals (dont require a capacitor). They don’t cause any flicker on all circuits that i have them wired to (LED downlights, pendants, etc).

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