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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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wil-i-am
post Apr 18 2015, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Apr 17 2015, 10:28 PM)
Now with recent massive panic selling on AS1M, i just wonder  whether AS1M would continue to be a good choice for risk averse investors like me ie can it still give 6+% return, or at least better return than FD in the near future, next dividend payout i mean.

If there is a change in political position and 1MDB scandal officially proven and it collpased, would it hit only AS1M or others like ASW and ASM would be affected to the same extent?

Hope those who are more in the know could shed some light for me to decide  whether i should redeem my next Fd or not.
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AS1M is standalone n govern by Trustee
Thus, no Worry at all
wil-i-am
post Apr 18 2015, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 17 2015, 11:10 PM)
Guy3288

u really got many bullets. I also wan to know whether as1m and Onemdb got relationship?

Mind sharing.
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No relationship at ALL as they share common name ony
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post Apr 18 2015, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 18 2015, 07:42 AM)
AS1M is standalone n govern by Trustee
Thus, no Worry at all
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that sounds reassuring, thanks.
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post Apr 18 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 17 2015, 08:39 PM)
Sorry for taking a ride on your thread.

Appreciate those who have been to this one give some feedback here.

If feedback is +++++++ve, then I will sacrifice my weekend and drive to Sibu!

Cheerio.
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I went once..

have financial / investment talk..

have counter to open new ASx account.. u can also ask Q about their ASx products..

have small "stalls" under PNB group of companies.. u get to know more about the companies.. they give brochure / booklet to read. u can buy also some of the products they sell..

got games for children. if win got some gift for it..

lastly when u exit, u get ASNB bag tongue.gif
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post Apr 19 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 18 2015, 07:44 AM)
No relationship at ALL as they share common name ony
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thanks bro wil-i-am

I will keep top up the AS1M. tongue.gif
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post Apr 20 2015, 09:27 AM

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Malaysians are just too gullible...

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wil-i-am
post Apr 20 2015, 01:52 PM

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PNB doubles subscription of its units to 200b in 6 years
http://www.nst.com.my/node/81015
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post Apr 20 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 20 2015, 01:52 PM)
PNB doubles subscription of its units to 200b in 6 years
http://www.nst.com.my/node/81015
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Just speaking my mind here.

Is the doubling a good sign or a warning sign (getting too big)?

If my memory is OK, I think the total worth of the KLSE listed companies is about RM4 trillion. So RM200 billion is about 5% of all KLSE listed companies. PNB does not put all its money in KLSE. So, not a giant monopoly player there.

The RM200 billion :
* can build 200/4 = 50 KLCC (based on the old RM2 billion per tower)
* nearly pay off M'sia 2015 budget of RM 274 billion
* pay off !MXX debt and still have RM160 billion
* make 200 billionaires in my family

Good or warning sign? Cannot decide. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 18 2015, 01:31 PM)
I went once..

have financial / investment talk..

have counter to open new ASx account.. u can also ask Q about their ASx products..

have small "stalls" under PNB group of companies.. u get to know more about the companies.. they give brochure / booklet to read. u can buy also some of the products they sell..

got games for children. if win got some gift for it..

lastly when u exit, u get ASNB bag  tongue.gif
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Thanks.

Not going this time. have asked my sister in Sibu to go, look see, open account, win lucky draws, etc etc. Ha.
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post Apr 20 2015, 04:07 PM

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looks like ASB2 is getting "hot" nowadays.. overheard some unker talking about it in bank.. saw few pipu also open new account..

I wonder how much ASB2 has been sold hmm.gif

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post Apr 20 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 20 2015, 02:34 PM)
Just speaking my mind here.

Is the doubling a good sign or a warning sign (getting too big)?

If my memory is OK, I think the total worth of the KLSE listed companies is about RM4 trillion. So RM200 billion is about 5% of all KLSE listed companies. PNB does not put all its money in KLSE. So, not a giant monopoly player there.

The RM200 billion :
* can build 200/4 = 50 KLCC (based on the old RM2 billion per tower)
* nearly pay off M'sia 2015 budget of RM 274 billion
* pay off !MXX debt and still have RM160 billion
* make 200 billionaires in my family

Good or warning sign? Cannot decide.  hmm.gif
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It's the entire reason why SC has not allowed for ASNB to launch anymore new fixed priced products for a long time, thus disappointing many Malaysian in the process. Then again as with always the case of Malaysia, our dear Najib just bull-dozed all regulators and its regulations and launched ASB2.

With regards to what PNB can do with 200 billion? The things suggested are not so easy to be implemented. Unlike TH, LTAT, KWAP and what not, ASNB is just like any other unit trust company. All securities are in the name of the trustee, they're under the purview of SC/BNM and other regulators, they have to disclose their investment portfolio in their numerous reports and many more.

The same transparency can't be said for TH, LTAT and KWAP despite these institutions managing billions too.
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post Apr 20 2015, 06:32 PM

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Some pipu must be spreading wrong info until ASNB needed to give Notice like tis
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post Apr 20 2015, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 20 2015, 04:07 PM)
looks like ASB2 is getting "hot" nowadays.. overheard some unker talking about it in bank.. saw few pipu also open new account..

I wonder how much ASB2 has been sold  hmm.gif
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Yeah...Bumi investors would withdraw from ASW/ASD/AS1m to fill up ASB2 first.
Then only consider other fixed price funds.
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:06 PM

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I manage to open AS1M account for my teenager child today with rm100 initial investment, done at ASNB within 10 minutes.
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 20 2015, 10:06 PM)
I manage to open AS1M account for my teenager child today with rm100 initial investment, done at  ASNB within 10 minutes.
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post Apr 20 2015, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 20 2015, 10:06 PM)
I manage to open AS1M account for my teenager child today with rm100 initial investment, done at  ASNB within 10 minutes.
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below 18 - Akaun Bijak. The child need not be at the counter right? Do we need to bring the child's IC or birth cert or both? I also plan to open AS1M for my kids below 18.
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post Apr 21 2015, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 20 2015, 06:32 PM)
Some pipu must be spreading wrong info until ASNB needed to give Notice like tis
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Malaysians just love to fall for rumors. Funny how despite today's connected world that we live in, many still find it hard to just send a Tweet or FB msg or email to ASNB just to clarify on something but instead just getting into panic mode and spread lies.

If I were ASNB, I'd sue those people who come up with such insane and stupid lies doh.gif
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post Apr 21 2015, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Apr 20 2015, 11:34 PM)
below 18 - Akaun Bijak. The child need not  be  at the counter right? Do we need to bring the child's IC or birth cert or both? I also plan to open  AS1M for my kids below 18.
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No need for children to be there but bring birthcert & ic.
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post Apr 21 2015, 03:05 PM

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PNB has paid out RM130.55bil in dividends, bonuses
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...uses/?style=biz
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post Apr 21 2015, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 21 2015, 03:05 PM)
PNB has paid out RM130.55bil in dividends, bonuses
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...uses/?style=biz
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That's a lot of wealth injected into the economy. I'm not sure if many countries have GDP as large as that figure. Makes you wonder, if everyone were prudent and responsible with their proceeds, how much would the economy and the nation actually grow hmm.gif

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