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post Feb 24 2015, 02:32 PM

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got 20k AS1M and 1k ASM during lunch break at CIMB, go try your luck .
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post Feb 27 2015, 01:05 PM

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Lunch break 12.30pm ASM on sales- quickly go try your luck
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post Mar 10 2015, 02:15 PM

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Got some AS1M, you guys can go try.
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post Mar 18 2015, 12:50 PM

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Got AS1M on sales again, Go buy now,
Now is the best time to open new account.
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post Mar 23 2015, 02:18 PM

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AS1M on sales again at lunch break around 12.55pm
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post Mar 23 2015, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 23 2015, 02:27 PM)
Every time u say got sale but nothing one. Apa machiam. U swallow all liaooooooo
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How to swallow all unless i can mint money.
Today i only got RM15k , clerk asked "mahu tambah lagi"? i said takda duit liao. if you guys were there
sure can get some. quite high chances recently ,got AS1M 9,10,13,18 mac. 11 Mac no AS1m but got ASM pulak.
nowadays FDs can forget them. AS1M so easy to get, keep on getting till me also abit scared now....
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got some ASW2020 just now. 6k only
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post Mar 31 2015, 01:16 PM

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AS1M available again, go buy.
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post Apr 1 2015, 01:21 PM

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ASM on big lelong today, go open your new account!
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post Apr 2 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 2 2015, 02:17 PM)
Follow up from my frustrating experience yesterday.

Called the ASNB here. Initially I was told that I could not buy ASM due to system upgrading. I explained the ASNB memo on ASN (1-5 Apr) and ASX (5 Apr). Then she said with the system upgrading, it would be slow in getting ASM.

First it is this, later that. Reminds me of MAS (Mana Ada System)!

Asked about going to banks and was told it would be the same with the slow speed.

Giving up. Now they don't deserve the title of being the branch with the highest ASX transactions in Malaysia! Ha.
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CIMB seems so easy, 1 shot got 8k ASM, no more money , otherwise i think can get more. feel like buying it for you guys who dont seem to be able to get, just treat KFC cukup la...
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post Apr 8 2015, 12:10 AM

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i got 20 as1m maybank too today, yesterday was 26.2 asw also at maybank, cimb dont know wat happened, told me "quota full" for 2 days already..
.., more like internal ?local branch ?closing acc?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 8 2015, 06:34 AM)
Bro, u have unlimited Bullet to top up almost everyday
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no la , my OSk bond matured 2 days ago, sigh.. from 7.5% now can only go for 6+% , that also cannot absorb all of it, no choice go for 4.5% next....


QUOTE(jusTinMM @ Apr 8 2015, 09:20 AM)
yaya i got a lot as1m from maybank too  thumbup.gif
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how much did you get?, Today i tried again, got zero! so fed up me going for SCB 4.5% afterwards.



QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 8 2015, 12:37 PM)
since Monday CIMB got some "problem" after the so-called "upgrade" by ASNB.. donno wat happen  hmm.gif
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yeah officer still said quota full again today, me fed up , showed them my last 2 days collection from Maybank, same time withdraw all my money go for SCB.


QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 8 2015, 12:44 PM)
So much u can get. Happy for u.

I only get rm700 today. Serious can topup 26k????
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it was done 4.9k x4, 400 x1 and finally 5.2k at MBB and 1k at CIMB
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post Apr 9 2015, 10:22 PM

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MGM [Wrong, for ASx U still get your PRORATED returns even if u sell (unless u cancel your book) on the FY end. For FD premature uplift the most u get is partial interest.]

In that case ASx is better than FD if we really dont lose out the dividend by withdrawing before dividend day.

May be plumberly or any one expert in it, can help by doing some calculation on the dividends paid out as printed in our book, do we really get the dividend for all the days from the day we buy to the dividend payout day?.

I only fear ASx may pay like EPF does, you bank in any day of the month you only get 1 day interest for that month....

This post has been edited by guy3288: Apr 9 2015, 10:30 PM
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post Apr 9 2015, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 9 2015, 10:29 PM)
Dividend for Fixed price is calculated base on min bal in a mth
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that means whatever we buy wont get paid till the following month? Wah rugi la if buy in 1st week of the month.

let's put some examples

ASX

1.1.15 B/F bal RM100k
2.1.15 buy 10k RM110k
10.1.15 buy RM50k RM160k

20.1.15 buy 50k RM210k
30.1.15 buy 50k RM260k


Min in Jan 2015 = RM100k
So for dividend calculation - for Jan 2015 based on RM100k only??
all those buys from 2.1.15 onwards no dividend till Feb 2015 start?

Betulkah like this?
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post Apr 9 2015, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 9 2015, 10:48 PM)
Yes
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no wonder la ASX can pay 6+% pa, so many days of the month not paying interest to depositors..........can imagine how much ASX earn from this free money from us varying from 1-29 or 30 days every month...... FD better la like that?
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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 10 2015, 12:17 AM)
I think all fixed price ASx has similar calculation for dividend. Got this from
http://invest-made-easy.blogspot.com/2013/...era-asb_28.html

ASB Dividend
Key Points About ASB Dividend:

ASB Dividend and ASB Bonus are calculated differently and separately from one another.
Dividend is calculated on a monthly basis over the duration of the year dividend is declared. We term the monthly dividend calculation as Monthly Dividend Amount.
Total Dividend Paid for the year is the Sum of calculated Monthly Dividend Amount from Jan till Dec.
To calculate the Monthly Dividend Amount for each month, the Lowest Account Balance for each month is used.
Lowest Account Balance for a month is defined as the lowest value of your ASB account for that particular month. Let's see Example 1 to 3 below:
    Lowest Account Balance (Example 1):

On 1st Jan 2013, your account balance in ASB is RM5000
You withdraw RM1000 on the 3rd of Jan 2013
You then Redeposit RM2000 into your ASB on the 10th of Jan 2013.
What is your Lowest Account Balance for Jan 2013?
Answer is RM4000.00

    Lowest Account Balance (Example 2):

On 1st Jan 2013, your account balance in ASB is RM5000
You deposit RM1000 on the 3rd of Jan 2013
You then withdraw RM2000 from your ASB on the 10th of Jan 2013.
What is your Lowest Account Balance for Jan 2013?
Answer is RM4000.00

    Lowest Account Balance (Example 3):

On 1st Jan 2013, your account balance in ASB is RM5000
You deposit RM1000 on the 3rd of Jan 2013
You then withdraw RM500 from your ASB on the 10th of Jan 2013.
What is your Lowest Account Balance for Jan 2013?
Answer is RM5000.00

Formula for ASB Dividend Calculation:
Monthly Dividend Amount calculation= 1/12 x Dividend % x lowest-account-balance
By obtaining the Monthly Dividend Amount from Jan till Dec,

Total Dividend Paid = sum of Monthly Dividend Amount from Jan till Dec
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Great, i was about to ask for help. and i think i have calculated as mentioned above.
I found out by the calculation above, i should get RM10782.
But the dividend stated in AMS book is only RM8362 on 1.4.2015.

Attached please find the record i copied from all the entries from ASM. i added the entry for 1st of each month to ease dividend calculation for myself.

Hope some sifu here can point out where is my mistake, ASM's amount should be correct right? aiyo i dont know how to attach the excel file leh... or even microsoft word also cannot....
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post Apr 10 2015, 12:46 AM

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Bal B/F top up Total my calculation Dividend till 1.4.15 Dividend paid by ASM
1.4.14 76120 76120 76120x6.5% x 12/12 5024
30.4.14 10k 86120
1.5.14 86120 10k x 6.6% x 11/12 605
9.5.14 5k 91120
15.5.14 2k 93120
19.5.14 3k 96120
1.6.14 96120 10k x 6.6%x 10/12 550
1.7.14 96120 10k x 6.6% x 9/12 495
1.8.14 96120 10k x 6.6% x 8/12 440
1.9.14 96120 10k x 6.6% x 7/12 385
5.9.14 13k 109120
11.9.14 2k 111120
1.10.14 111120 15k x6.6% x 6/12 495
1.11.14 111120 15k x6.6% x 5/12 412
1.12.14 111120 15k x6.6% x 4/12 330
4.12.14 1k 112120
30.12.14 58k 170120
1.1.15 170120 59k x6.6% x3/12 974
5.1.15 65k 235120
1.2.15 235120 65k x 6.6% x2/12 715
1.3.15 235120 65k x 6.6% x1/12 357
1.4.15 Total RM10782 8362

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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 10 2015, 01:47 AM)
Must salute to u notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif . Looks like it is so easy for u to topup, from 76k to 235k.

Column A should be Monthly Minimum Balance. Goodnight.
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wah, your method clean and neat, thanks. but i am still wondering why my method cant get the right dividend,
will sort out where i gone wrong later when free.


QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 10 2015, 09:39 AM)
As promised earlier, my comparison (mainly due to the fact that ASM deposit in the first month does not earn any dividend) between FD and ASM is as below .

Assumptions:
* 1 month FD at 3.6% pa
* compounded monthly FD dividends
* ASM at 6.5% pa
* ASM monthly dividend is not compounded
* amount RM500,000

[attachmentid=4405525]

If my calculations are right, the above tells me that it is better on first look (see note #1) to put the money in FD if it is 1 month before the ASM dividend date. You will get some $ from FD while zero from ASM.

The breakeven point is 2 months before ASM dividend date where FD & ASM will give you about the same amount.

BUT ...

I am more than willing to lose out on the 1 month FD interest since ASM gives more than FD for the other cases (note #1), i.e., overall higher return.

My 2 cents.

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thanks for confirming ASX should be better than FD, any where i can get a copy of your spreadsheet to calculate or rather check ASX dividend myself?



QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 10 2015, 10:38 AM)
Today ASW2020 can get rm300 only. smile.gif
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you should have tried AS1M, i got 21k 9.45am at MBB, ASM only 4.

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Apr 10 2015, 12:46 AM)
Bal B/F top up Total my calculation Dividend till 1.4.15 Dividend paid by ASM
1.4.14 76120  76120 76120x6.5% x 12/12 5024
30.4.14  10k 86120 
1.5.14  86120 10k x 6.6% x 11/12 605
9.5.14  5k 91120 
15.5.14  2k 93120 
19.5.14  3k 96120 
1.6.14  96120 10k x 6.6%x 10/12 550
1.7.14  96120 10k x 6.6% x 9/12 495
1.8.14  96120 10k x 6.6% x 8/12 440
1.9.14  96120 10k x 6.6% x 7/12 385
5.9.14  13k  109120 
11.9.14  2k 111120 
1.10.14  111120 15k x6.6% x 6/12 495
1.11.14  111120 15k x6.6% x 5/12 412
1.12.14  111120 15k x6.6% x 4/12 330
4.12.14  1k 112120 
30.12.14  58k 170120 
1.1.15  170120 59k x6.6% x3/12 974
5.1.15  65k 235120 
1.2.15  235120 65k x 6.6% x2/12 715
1.3.15  235120 65k x 6.6% x1/12 357
1.4.15    Total RM10782 8362
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Found out my mistake, i should not have included those in red,
so minus them out, RM10782-2420 = correct amount ie RM8362.


QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 10 2015, 01:51 PM)
Here you go.

[attachmentid=4405823]

Cannot attach xls file here (for virus control, I think). So I zipped it.

Unzip it and open the xls file.

You will have to delete all the example numbers in there. Delete and add in new numbers in yellow cells only.

If the final dividend is not the same as in your passbook, let me know and I will see what is the error.

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Thanks, will save in my my computer, once a while can check if ASx pays us correctly or not..


QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 10 2015, 02:35 PM)
guy3288 either u got jalan or u r super lucky.
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now no more jalan, same like u guys got to stand there at the counter.
CIMB easy,all very friendly, willing to try repeatedly, with reducing amount.

Last 3 days i got a pretty and very frenly MBB teller willingly filled up so many forms from repeated buys, but this am i got 1 not so good, requiring me to take another queue number as she said she could not keep serving me alone as others were waiting when in actual fact only 2 or 3 waiting for ASX counters and there are 3 ASX counters. i took another queue number, unfortunate got called to face her again, but she did buy another 3 times for me 2nd round.


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post Apr 13 2015, 01:56 PM

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ASM and AS1M on sales again, should be able to open new account if you guys go try. After i finished up my cash in hand still got some more..

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