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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Feb 23 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Feb 20 2015, 05:20 PM)
Those lazy post also need to delete. ✂ ✂  ✂
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 23 2015, 08:50 AM)
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Let us move to LTAT for the 2-3 times higher return! 15% for 2014! Dapat kah? Guess not.  cry.gif

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LTAT investment gurus are some of the best in the world with such consistent high returns over the last 42 years! True kah? These guys will be filthy rich if they worked in the private companies! Just curious, any one here knows what do they invest in? Shares, special deals with the you-know-who, etc?  brows.gif
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My gut feel says some hidden fat hands in there to achieve the high returns. I guess that is one way to please the armed forces and to secure their unquestioned services. Same thing in armed forces in other countries?

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Suppose I started with RM100,000 in LTAT 42 years ago, by now it will be about RM9 million now! 90 times increase!  thumbup.gif

Sorry for this off topic thread.

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First and foremost, is this fund open for public? Or only for its members?
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post Feb 23 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Feb 23 2015, 08:36 AM)
Taken from ASNB's latest posting on their FB page ( https://www.facebook.com/413717745430066/ph...pe=1&permPage=1 ). I've heard rumors that SC may not allow for ASNB funds to grow anymore via dividend (I guess they finally realized the loophole) so future income distribution (to use the correct term tongue.gif) will be paid via cash.

Don't know how true the rumor but for as long as ASNB's fixed priced funds continue to represent a large chunk of the entire local stock market, it poses a systemic risk to the local bourse which is why I guess the rumors continue to spread.
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It is a wise move if expansion of fund is disallowed due to the dividend declaration. So that the investors won't have the feel "Ponzi scheme" as highlighted by few forumers earlier.
So if this happen, ASNB can only raise fund by launching new funds but not via the increase fund size due to dividend

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 23 2015, 01:46 PM)
For members ony
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then it is not a fair comparison as it is not within our reach
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 1 2015, 09:33 PM)
ASM dividend for 2015 will b out end of tis mth
Any prediction/forecast?
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ASB2's dividend too
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post Mar 8 2015, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 8 2015, 04:20 PM)
Assume ASM earn 5% tis yr, they can declare up to 7% tis yr
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One thing i am sure is that ASB2 dividend will be higher than ASM
ASG will be in between. My Guestimation
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 9 2015, 11:25 AM)
My guess

Asg 7
Asm 6.0-6.3
Asb2 below 6.5
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ASB2 fund size RM 10 bil. Now only able to sell RM1bil ++ only
If it declare below 6.5%, it will take forever to sell the fund.
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Mar 10 2015, 09:42 AM)
If ASNB could give 7 cents per unit would be quite an achievement to be honest. When the fund was launched back in April 2014, KLCI was at 1847++ points while we're no where near that today. It would take the fund manager some clever buying/selling during that period (highest 1890++ while lowest 1673++) to garner 7%.
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ASNB investment strategy is keeping the shares for long term, their strategy is more relying on dividend incomes. The short term price fluctuations in their invested shares doesn't bother their performance much, as the invested counters are not actively traded, so Bursa index carries less meaningful to them.

ASNB always press their heavily invested counters for good dividend, like Sime Darby, Maybank.
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Mar 16 2015, 11:44 AM)
Well said.  rclxms.gif

Many people still believe on rumours than facts..
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Typical case of buying on facts, and selling on rumours
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post Mar 24 2015, 11:31 PM

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ASM and ASG dividend already annouced, but not ASB2
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post Mar 25 2015, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Mar 25 2015, 02:07 PM)
make no sense if it is lower than ASW, AS1M and ASM. The bumi quota for AS1M is not even fulfilled yet, why make another fixed priced ASX just for the bumi that gives a lower dividend than existing funds
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 31 2015, 09:24 AM)
D day for ASB2
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They keep on dragging the dividend announcement date for ASB2.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 25 2015, 07:14 AM)
guess asb2 <6.5
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You must study back what is the core reason of formation of PNB and ASNB fund??
To help Bumi or to trap bumi???
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 31 2015, 10:52 AM)
I suppose ASNB struggle to match ASM rate of 6.60%
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i guess more on struggling to match ASB return of 7% + Bonus.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 31 2015, 03:41 PM)
ASNB anak syarikat milik penuh PNB mengumumkan pengagihan pendapatan bagi ASB2 sebanyak 7.5 sen seunit dan agihan khas sebanyak 0.25 sen.

Sambutan masyarakat Bumiputera terhadap ASB2 cukup menggalakkan dengan sejumlah langganan 2.06 bilion unit oleh 103,545 pemegang unit.

Pengerusi PNB, Tun Ahmad Sarji berkata, lembaga pengarah ASNB bersetuju memperuntukkan pembayaran sebanyak RM92 juta sebagai pembayaran agihan pendapatan ASB2.
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Thanks for sharing

ASB 2 catat agihan pendapatan 7.75 sen[COLOR=red]
ZUNAIDAH ZAINON | 31 Mac 2015 3:38 PM
- See more at: http://www.utusan.com.my/bisnes/ekonomi/as...h.HipFruir.dpuf

KUALA LUMPUR 31 Mac - Amanah Saham Nasional Berhad (ASNB), anak syarikat milik penuh Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB) mengumumkan agihan pendapatan sebanyak 7.75 sen seunit bagi Amanah Saham Bumiputera 2 (ASB 2) yang akan memberi manfaat kepada 103,546 pemegang unit.
Ia melibatkan agihan pendapatan tahunan sebanyak 7.50 sen seunit dan agihan pendapatan khas sebanyak 0.25 sen seunit untuk tahun kewangan berakhir 31 Mac 2015.
Pengerusi PNB, Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid berkata, Lembaga Pengarah ASNB bersetuju memperuntukkan pembayaran sebanyak RM92 juta sebagai bayaran agihan pendapatan ASB 2. - UTUSAN ONLINE
- See more at: http://www.utusan.com.my/bisnes/ekonomi/as...h.HipFruir.dpuf
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 31 2015, 01:30 PM)
Lol. Why not both.
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Refer to the ASB2 dividend annoucement
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something missing in the announcement.

Their standard script is " ASB2 actually can distribute xxx %, but due to the obvious reason, we only distribute x% and carry forward the y% to the subsequent financial year......."
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 1 2015, 08:36 AM)
Official announcement from ASNB on ASB2 dividend
http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/BERITA/2015/201...15%20-%20BM.pdf
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the official announcement still no standard script which mentioned how many x% carry forward to the following financial year
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 1 2015, 08:10 AM)
Speaking my mind here.

It seems friends in this forum are the calm AS1M type vs the nervous AS1M holders elsewhere who are selling their AS1M like there is no tomorrow.

Or there are some AS1M sellers here who prefer not to mention it?  If there are some, please share your view here.

Do they know something which we do not? Knowing something and speculating something are 2 different things.

Whether the AS1M run away sale is due to 1MDB or not, hope AS1M will continue to grow and reward its holders. Ha ha.

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Another promotion by ASNB

http://www.hmetro.com.my/node/40850

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