Welcome to V9, Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ.
To the One who deserve all Glory and Honour, the reason why we are Here, Our Lord Christ Jesus
Hebrews 1: 8-9
8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” It is a commandment to meetup regularly, So if you're someone where Church is not easily accessible, This can be your temporary hang out place, so that you are not totally detached and lost touch with Christian community. We are here to fellowship with one another, strengthen our Faith in the Lord. It is hard to grow in the Lord, alone in solitude. God intends for us to be in relationship with each other and our fellowship thread provide a place for you to grow in your relationship with Him and with other people of the same faith.
We are here as brothers and sisters in Christ, Love each other and also your enemy, do treat everyone as your own best friend. And for those who has strayed away from their path do you best in guiding them back to the right path.
FAQ Few simple RULES to follow in our fellowship thread.
1. No flaming/troll post please. Lets keep this fellowship thread clean and encouraging, as it's purpose is more for believers of Christ. 2. Do not argue about other religions please. People of other Faith are welcome to ask and enquire genuine questions or out of curiosity about Christianity. 3. What's discussed in here, stays in here.
Opensong!!! It uses your WinXP's extended screen on the projector. So you have your controls in your laptop, and the screen on the projector. It also supports Chinese, and has songs packs and bible verses too, so you can project those verses on screen.
Arabic Bible: http://www.arabicbible.com/bible/doc_bible.htm Dear Christians, please do let us know about u, like denominations, which church u r from and where is ur church located. Oh, beside that, do let us know what position are u holding in ur church, as in.. hmm pianist ? choral singer ? or even Pastor.
LYN Christ Followers List:
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1) jdreamer - Methodist | Masland Methodist Church, Sibu Sarawak / Hope of God Kuching | Bass (Youth Choir) 2) KVReninem - Catholic | Mater Dei Lutong Miri Sarawak 3) g00glesYYl - Protestant | Ampang Gospel Hall ( C ) | Bass (Youth Choir) 4) mr.brisbane - Charismatic | FGA KL | Youth Church / Member / serving in children's church, driver 5) Happy4ever - DUMC 6) aiyume - Charismatic | Children Church / Youth 7) ellimist - Brethren assembly | Port Klang Gospel Hall | Treasurer of the Youth Committee / Drummer 8) TheWhacker - Presbyterian | Doulos Presbyterian Church at Taman Megah 9) PvIce - Protestant | City Revival Church / Holiday Villa Subang 10) ZidaneZCustom - Catholic | Church of the Assumption, Petaling Jaya | Drummer (Choir) 11) luv4life - Charismatic | Good News Church of Sabah | Worship Team Leader/Keyboardist/Drummer (Church's Worship Team) 12) victorboy - Charismatic | Charis Christian Centre 13) blinky - FGA (Full Gospel Assembly) 14) PeowYong - Baptist Church | Sandakan Baptist Church, Sabah | bassist 15) ~Battousai~ -Brethren | Subang Jaya Gospel Centre 16) Sim (2) - All-saints Anglican Church | Kota Kinabalu Anglican Church, Sabah | Sponsorship 17) heidityj - Brethren | The Life Chapel, PJ | Sunday School Teacher 18) hazelnet - DUMC 19) jhcj - Brethren | Port Klang Gospel Hall | Vice-chairman of the Youth Fellowship 20) Zephyr_Mage - Roman Catholic | Church of St. Francis Xavier, PJ; Church of Divine Mercy, Shah Alam; Church of the Assumption, PJ 21) zeist - Methodist | Grace Assembly Klang / Wesley Methodist Klang | Ex- Youth Christian Fellowship 22) wednesday - Assemblies of God | Faith City Church, USJ 1 | Caregroup of College Youths 23) rukawa - Brethren | Jalan Imbi Chapel | Chinese Choir 24) Femi - Charismatic | Subang Christian Fellowship USJ2 | Keyboardist 25) ntlc87 - Roman Catholic | Chappel Kurnia Cristus (ckk) | Youth 26) Joshua_0718 - Catholic | St Anne Church(hometown), CKK(Current) | Altar Server(hometown) 27) Enigmatic - Revival Centre of Ampang, KL 28) ionStorm - Evangelical (Protestant) | PJ Evangelical Free Church | Fulltime AV Coordinator 29) zx7177 - Methodist | Wesley Methodist Church KL 30) ButterCupS - Charismatic | Blessed Good News / Hope Church 31) yitjuan - Charismatic | Life Assembly Kepong 32) jonjon87 - Protestant | Cheras Evangelical Free Church 33) echobrainproject - Calvary Family Church, Kuching / SIB KL | Worship Ministry / Youth 34) Isaac_lin - Charismatic | Charis Christian Centre 35) shumaky - Catholic | St. Ignatius, Kelana 36) PvIce - City Revival Church 37) usws - Charismatic, Protestant, Methodist | Damansara Utama Methodist Church (DUMC) 38) Jaswwp - Protestant/Charismatic | FGA Cheras 39) h0ly_d3v1l - Catholic | Church of the Assumption 40) stalkie - Charismatic | COC Ampang 41) Kim^.^" - Anglican | St. Patrick's Church, Tawau | ex-cell leader 42) Cynthia_tss - Charismatic | Rock Church KL | Youth Church Leader 43) StratOS - Methodist | Mei Ann Methodist Church Miri 44) Confession - Charismatic | Latter Rain Church of Kuala Terengganu | Drummer 45) :+:DarreN:+: - Anglican | St Columba Parish, Miri, Sarawak 46) Ritz - no fixed denomination | wandering amongst KL Basel Church, St Presbyterian International Church and Pandan Gospel Church/KL 47) Bengang13 - Faith Methodist Church/Kl 48) Hoong Ern - Evangelical (Protestant) | PJ Evangelical Free Church (I'm overseas now but that's my home church) | AV Team, Pianist 49) sanjikun - Charismatic | Community Baptist Church(SJ/Sunway) 50) kianwee - City Discipleship Presbyterian Church, Subang 51) johntxy - Victory Family Center/ Singapore 52) rebelsoul76 - Charismatic | SIB KL @ CP Tower 53) xcutelilgal - Roman Catholic | St Thomas, Kuantan 54) whojen - FGA Penang 55) David890701 - Methodist | Tampin Methodist Church 56) Kelv - Roman Catholic | St. Francis of Assisi,Cheras 57) Rufinus - Roman Catholic | St. Francis of Assisi,Cheras | Altar Server & Youth Guitarist 58) MetalZone - Wesley Methodist Church Ipoh, Community Baptist Church Sunway Subang | Guitarist / Music Ministry in both Churches 59) Windsilver - Baptist | First Baptist Church (Pantai Centre), Pantai | Worship Co-Worship / Worship Leader/ Guitarist 60) kcng - Brethren Assembly | Port Klang Gospel Hall | Drumer and Bassist 61) [ - i l l u s i o n s - ] - FGA USJ, Subang Jaya Selangor 62) mxploit - Charismatic | Calvary Church 63) aaron_lwm - prostestant | grace church bm | Acoustic Guitarist (Main/Youth) Bass Guiratist (Main) Worship Leader (Youth) 64) Wilson88 - Protestant | Grace Church | Bassist and Acoustic Guitarist 65) terrylau - Evangelical | Hope of God / Hope of God Serdang | Worship Ministry Coordinator, Campus Youth Leader 66) stefanong - Charismatic | Christian Life Centre Malaysia, Sri Hartamas/Klang www.clcmsia.com | Worship Leader / Youth Leader / Bassist / Guitarist / Choir / Drama Team 67) Ni9htl0rD - Reservoir Garden Baptist Church, Penang 68) jesusfreak88 - Brethren Assembly | Shah Alam Gospel Center | Washing plates,arranging chairs n tables,drive people sometimes 69) ayrix_wylde - Methodist | Trinity Methodist Church, Petaling Jaya | Working in ministry, studying to be a pastor. 70) basSist - Presbyterian | Kluang Herald Presbyterian Church | No (current) 71) HaSY - Bandar Utama Chapel / KDU CF 72) DuncanDuke - Catholic | st.joseph cathedral, kuching 73) teikwing - FGA Taiping, Perak 74) Fir3cOw84 - Grace Chapel Luyang|Young Adult Group 75) alex6540 - Roman Catholic | St`Mary Church Sibu Sarawak 76) Anglican | St.Patrick's Church | Children Cell helper, Worship Team PA, Cell group intern 77) OrCaGal - bethany youth christian centre 78) SubKi||er - SIB Agape, Miri 79) hihi_haha_hoho4 - DUMC 80) toby.c13 - Cheras Evangelical Free Church 81) mumeichan - Christian | 82) CutieLynette - Charismatic | FGA Kota Damansara | Youth leader, guitarist, bassist, drummer, backup singer, worship leader, prepare communion emblems 83) hydrogen - Charismatic | Grace Family Sanctuary Banting | Guitarist, Drummer 84) yokemun - protestant | Eaglepoint Covenant Fellowship, Penang 85) eugene - Evangelical | Hope of God Serdang | Worship Ministry, Drama Ministry 86) nickisthemost - *Church of St. Francis Xavier, PJ; Church of Divine Mercy, Shah Alam; *Church of the Assumption, PJ 87) wild^flame - gtpj 88) lwsn - Wesley Methodist Church, Sibu 89) jyewteck - Evangelical | SIB Kuching | youth leader 90) timpete - St. Thomas Cathedral 91) Jun X18 - Protestant | FGA Kuchai Lama 92) ballackahn - roman catholic | Church of St. Francis Xavier, PJ 93) cklow - Sungai Ara Christian Centre (SACC) Penang 94) b3ta - hope mission centre, sydney australia 95) hikashi - Basel church| B.C.C.M KK(Eng) | youth 96) raist86 (aaron) | AOG | Hosanna Praise Assembly | Guitarist, soundman (main roles) 97) rarapu | Catholic | St. Anthony Tenom, Sabah | Church goer 98) ballackahn | Catholic / St Francis Xavier PJ / active in serving 99) Zach [zaxiio]- Baptist / Community Baptist Church Subang / Planned Cell Leader/ Guitarist 100) Joel Michael (Michael J.) / AOG / Faith AOG, Teluk Intan / YA, YL, Youth and Music, Missions 101) kopiokao - Charismatic | SIB KL @ CP Tower 102) kimmie - st.andrews international church | kl. pybsterian church | musician and fellowship commitee 103) LIW - Catholic | Holy Spirit Church (Penang) | n/a 104) eXyzt - Independent| ACTS Church | Host (usher) 105) ilovecookies92 - Basel/Protestant | BCCM | 106) dadarouch - Roman Catholic | Gereja Katolik Fatima, Banting ( Hometown ); St. Ignitius (SIC), PJ ( Current ) | 107) isildur88 - baptist church tawau sabah 108) Lance - City Harvest Church | Charismatic | Servin in choir team 109) kepalakeras - Evangelical / Central Avenue Church, Kuching (SIB) / Music, Children, Youth, Evangelical Missions 110) kennethkee93 - NTGH Penang 111) shaun3230 - Catholic | St Theresa`s Church | Melaka 112) renaelyng | Church of Praise Tronoh | Secretary, Back-Up in Worship Team 113) wacko_joy - AOG | Gereja Glory, Salak Selatan | ECIA (Youth Ministry), Video/Audio Editor, Sharer 114) nick_myself - Roman Catholic | Parish of St Thomas Moore (previously Capel Kurnia Kristus), SJ; Church of St Francis Xavier, PJ | ex-teen leader, ex-altar server, ex-sunday school facilitator 115) alcibald | AOG, Metro Tabernacle of God, Desa Melawati, Sound man, Campus Ministry Leader and guitarist. 116) Beyonder2000 - Catholic | Church of the Holy Rosary 117) Pinarello - Charismatic/Apostolic| World Harvest Church, Setapak KL| PA Crew, Cellgroup Intern 118) Baby_Krys - NTGH Penang | LCD 119) Vorador - New Creation Church Singapore 120) Robin Hood - Catholic | St Philip Tamparuli, Sabah 121) lookig4room - CBC - Sunway Subang 122) figuremeout - SIB Grace Kuching, Sarawak | Music Ministry 123) khaiandrew - Roman Catholic | St Ignatius 124) wrigleyz - Anglican | St.Thomas Bintulu,Sarawak 125) Relentless - Subang Methodist Church, Sunway 126) leongboyz - FGA 127) Busquets - Catholic||Sacred Heart cathedral(KK,Sabah) and St.Joseph(Kuching,Sarawak)||Bassist(Choir),Campus Catholic Music Ministry 128) fakeshadow - protestant | City Harvest Church | hospitality 129) laucn : AOG | usher team leader & cell group leader 130) supervai - | usher | DUMC 131) more2teayap - Methodist | Mudun Chinese Methodist Church | Praise and worship team 132) OH- - Catholic | Church of Our Lady of Fatima | Kangar, Perlis - Organist 133) Unknown Warrior - Calvary Convention Centre | Pastoral Team 134) Flar3star - Methodist | Wesley Methodist Church Kepong 135) saimonfung - SIB | SIB Bandar Tawau & SIB Pekan Kinarut | P&W team (Guitarist) 136) Valx129 - Roman Catholic | Church of the Divine Mercy, Penang | Catechist 137) brianginsos - AOG | Breakthru' Worship Community Church, Kota Kinabalu | Creative Multimedia 138) Carlo J - AOG | Metro Tabernacle A/G | Cafeteria 139) De_Luffy - Klang Chinese Methodist Church 140) sil3ntlif3 - Likas Baptist Church, Sabah (Guitarist) 141) Asenav - Church of Praise, Kampar 142) tinarhian - Baptist Church, PJ 143) arianpsyche - St. John Catheral, KL 144) Tham93 - Glory Christian Center, Kota Kinabalu
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Welcome to V9, Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ.
To the One who deserve all Glory and Honour, the reason why we are Here, Our Lord Christ Jesus
Hebrews 1: 8-9
8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” It is a commandment to meetup regularly, So if you're someone where Church is not easily accessible, This can be your temporary hang out place, so that you are not totally detached and lost touch with Christian community. We are here to fellowship with one another, strengthen our Faith in the Lord. It is hard to grow in the Lord, alone in solitude. God intends for us to be in relationship with each other and our fellowship thread provide a place for you to grow in your relationship with Him and with other people of the same faith.
FAQ Few simple RULES to follow in our fellowship thread.
1. No flaming/troll post please. Lets keep this fellowship thread clean and encouraging, as it's purpose is more for believers of Christ. 2. Do not argue about other religions please. People of other Faith are welcome to ask and enquire genuine questions or out of curiosity about Christianity. 3. What's discussed in here, stays in here.
Opensong!!! It uses your WinXP's extended screen on the projector. So you have your controls in your laptop, and the screen on the projector. It also supports Chinese, and has songs packs and bible verses too, so you can project those verses on screen.
Arabic Bible: http://www.arabicbible.com/bible/doc_bible.htm Dear Christians, please do let us know about u, like denominations, which church u r from and where is ur church located. Oh, beside that, do let us know what position are u holding in ur church, as in.. hmm pianist ? choral singer ? or even Pastor.
LYN Christ Followers List:
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1) jdreamer - Methodist | Masland Methodist Church, Sibu Sarawak / Hope of God Kuching | Bass (Youth Choir) 2) KVReninem - Catholic | Mater Dei Lutong Miri Sarawak 3) g00glesYYl - Protestant | Ampang Gospel Hall ( C ) | Bass (Youth Choir) 4) mr.brisbane - Charismatic | FGA KL | Youth Church / Member / serving in children's church, driver 5) Happy4ever - DUMC 6) aiyume - Charismatic | Children Church / Youth 7) ellimist - Brethren assembly | Port Klang Gospel Hall | Treasurer of the Youth Committee / Drummer 8) TheWhacker - Presbyterian | Doulos Presbyterian Church at Taman Megah 9) PvIce - Protestant | City Revival Church / Holiday Villa Subang 10) ZidaneZCustom - Catholic | Church of the Assumption, Petaling Jaya | Drummer (Choir) 11) luv4life - Charismatic | Good News Church of Sabah | Worship Team Leader/Keyboardist/Drummer (Church's Worship Team) 12) victorboy - Charismatic | Charis Christian Centre 13) blinky - FGA (Full Gospel Assembly) 14) PeowYong - Baptist Church | Sandakan Baptist Church, Sabah | bassist 15) ~Battousai~ -Brethren | Subang Jaya Gospel Centre 16) Sim (2) - All-saints Anglican Church | Kota Kinabalu Anglican Church, Sabah | Sponsorship 17) heidityj - Brethren | The Life Chapel, PJ | Sunday School Teacher 18) hazelnet - DUMC 19) jhcj - Brethren | Port Klang Gospel Hall | Vice-chairman of the Youth Fellowship 20) Zephyr_Mage - Roman Catholic | Church of St. Francis Xavier, PJ; Church of Divine Mercy, Shah Alam; Church of the Assumption, PJ 21) zeist - Methodist | Grace Assembly Klang / Wesley Methodist Klang | Ex- Youth Christian Fellowship 22) wednesday - Assemblies of God | Faith City Church, USJ 1 | Caregroup of College Youths 23) rukawa - Brethren | Jalan Imbi Chapel | Chinese Choir 24) Femi - Charismatic | Subang Christian Fellowship USJ2 | Keyboardist 25) ntlc87 - Roman Catholic | Chappel Kurnia Cristus (ckk) | Youth 26) Joshua_0718 - Catholic | St Anne Church(hometown), CKK(Current) | Altar Server(hometown) 27) Enigmatic - Revival Centre of Ampang, KL 28) ionStorm - Evangelical (Protestant) | PJ Evangelical Free Church | Fulltime AV Coordinator 29) zx7177 - Methodist | Wesley Methodist Church KL 30) ButterCupS - Charismatic | Blessed Good News / Hope Church 31) yitjuan - Charismatic | Life Assembly Kepong 32) jonjon87 - Protestant | Cheras Evangelical Free Church 33) echobrainproject - Calvary Family Church, Kuching / SIB KL | Worship Ministry / Youth 34) Isaac_lin - Charismatic | Charis Christian Centre 35) shumaky - Catholic | St. Ignatius, Kelana 36) PvIce - City Revival Church 37) usws - Charismatic, Protestant, Methodist | Damansara Utama Methodist Church (DUMC) 38) Jaswwp - Protestant/Charismatic | FGA Cheras 39) h0ly_d3v1l - Catholic | Church of the Assumption 40) stalkie - Charismatic | COC Ampang 41) Kim^.^" - Anglican | St. Patrick's Church, Tawau | ex-cell leader 42) Cynthia_tss - Charismatic | Rock Church KL | Youth Church Leader 43) StratOS - Methodist | Mei Ann Methodist Church Miri 44) Confession - Charismatic | Latter Rain Church of Kuala Terengganu | Drummer 45) :+:DarreN:+: - Anglican | St Columba Parish, Miri, Sarawak 46) Ritz - no fixed denomination | wandering amongst KL Basel Church, St Presbyterian International Church and Pandan Gospel Church/KL 47) Bengang13 - Faith Methodist Church/Kl 48) Hoong Ern - Evangelical (Protestant) | PJ Evangelical Free Church (I'm overseas now but that's my home church) | AV Team, Pianist 49) sanjikun - Charismatic | Community Baptist Church(SJ/Sunway) 50) kianwee - City Discipleship Presbyterian Church, Subang 51) johntxy - Victory Family Center/ Singapore 52) rebelsoul76 - Charismatic | SIB KL @ CP Tower 53) xcutelilgal - Roman Catholic | St Thomas, Kuantan 54) whojen - FGA Penang 55) David890701 - Methodist | Tampin Methodist Church 56) Kelv - Roman Catholic | St. Francis of Assisi,Cheras 57) Rufinus - Roman Catholic | St. Francis of Assisi,Cheras | Altar Server & Youth Guitarist 58) MetalZone - Wesley Methodist Church Ipoh, Community Baptist Church Sunway Subang | Guitarist / Music Ministry in both Churches 59) Windsilver - Baptist | First Baptist Church (Pantai Centre), Pantai | Worship Co-Worship / Worship Leader/ Guitarist 60) kcng - Brethren Assembly | Port Klang Gospel Hall | Drumer and Bassist 61) [ - i l l u s i o n s - ] - FGA USJ, Subang Jaya Selangor 62) mxploit - Charismatic | Calvary Church 63) aaron_lwm - prostestant | grace church bm | Acoustic Guitarist (Main/Youth) Bass Guiratist (Main) Worship Leader (Youth) 64) Wilson88 - Protestant | Grace Church | Bassist and Acoustic Guitarist 65) terrylau - Evangelical | Hope of God / Hope of God Serdang | Worship Ministry Coordinator, Campus Youth Leader 66) stefanong - Charismatic | Christian Life Centre Malaysia, Sri Hartamas/Klang www.clcmsia.com | Worship Leader / Youth Leader / Bassist / Guitarist / Choir / Drama Team 67) Ni9htl0rD - Reservoir Garden Baptist Church, Penang 68) jesusfreak88 - Brethren Assembly | Shah Alam Gospel Center | Washing plates,arranging chairs n tables,drive people sometimes 69) ayrix_wylde - Methodist | Trinity Methodist Church, Petaling Jaya | Working in ministry, studying to be a pastor. 70) basSist - Presbyterian | Kluang Herald Presbyterian Church | No (current) 71) HaSY - Bandar Utama Chapel / KDU CF 72) DuncanDuke - Catholic | st.joseph cathedral, kuching 73) teikwing - FGA Taiping, Perak 74) Fir3cOw84 - Grace Chapel Luyang|Young Adult Group 75) alex6540 - Roman Catholic | St`Mary Church Sibu Sarawak 76) Anglican | St.Patrick's Church | Children Cell helper, Worship Team PA, Cell group intern 77) OrCaGal - bethany youth christian centre 78) SubKi||er - SIB Agape, Miri 79) hihi_haha_hoho4 - DUMC 80) toby.c13 - Cheras Evangelical Free Church 81) mumeichan - Christian | 82) CutieLynette - Charismatic | FGA Kota Damansara | Youth leader, guitarist, bassist, drummer, backup singer, worship leader, prepare communion emblems 83) hydrogen - Charismatic | Grace Family Sanctuary Banting | Guitarist, Drummer 84) yokemun - protestant | Eaglepoint Covenant Fellowship, Penang 85) eugene - Evangelical | Hope of God Serdang | Worship Ministry, Drama Ministry 86) nickisthemost - *Church of St. Francis Xavier, PJ; Church of Divine Mercy, Shah Alam; *Church of the Assumption, PJ 87) wild^flame - gtpj 88) lwsn - Wesley Methodist Church, Sibu 89) jyewteck - Evangelical | SIB Kuching | youth leader 90) timpete - St. Thomas Cathedral 91) Jun X18 - Protestant | FGA Kuchai Lama 92) ballackahn - roman catholic | Church of St. Francis Xavier, PJ 93) cklow - Sungai Ara Christian Centre (SACC) Penang 94) b3ta - hope mission centre, sydney australia 95) hikashi - Basel church| B.C.C.M KK(Eng) | youth 96) raist86 (aaron) | AOG | Hosanna Praise Assembly | Guitarist, soundman (main roles) 97) rarapu | Catholic | St. Anthony Tenom, Sabah | Church goer 98) ballackahn | Catholic / St Francis Xavier PJ / active in serving 99) Zach [zaxiio]- Baptist / Community Baptist Church Subang / Planned Cell Leader/ Guitarist 100) Joel Michael (Michael J.) / AOG / Faith AOG, Teluk Intan / YA, YL, Youth and Music, Missions 101) kopiokao - Charismatic | SIB KL @ CP Tower 102) kimmie - st.andrews international church | kl. pybsterian church | musician and fellowship commitee 103) LIW - Catholic | Holy Spirit Church (Penang) | n/a 104) eXyzt - Independent| ACTS Church | Host (usher) 105) ilovecookies92 - Basel/Protestant | BCCM | 106) dadarouch - Roman Catholic | Gereja Katolik Fatima, Banting ( Hometown ); St. Ignitius (SIC), PJ ( Current ) | 107) isildur88 - baptist church tawau sabah 108) Lance - City Harvest Church | Charismatic | Servin in choir team 109) kepalakeras - Evangelical / Central Avenue Church, Kuching (SIB) / Music, Children, Youth, Evangelical Missions 110) kennethkee93 - NTGH Penang 111) shaun3230 - Catholic | St Theresa`s Church | Melaka 112) renaelyng | Church of Praise Tronoh | Secretary, Back-Up in Worship Team 113) wacko_joy - AOG | Gereja Glory, Salak Selatan | ECIA (Youth Ministry), Video/Audio Editor, Sharer 114) nick_myself - Roman Catholic | Parish of St Thomas Moore (previously Capel Kurnia Kristus), SJ; Church of St Francis Xavier, PJ | ex-teen leader, ex-altar server, ex-sunday school facilitator 115) alcibald | AOG, Metro Tabernacle of God, Desa Melawati, Sound man, Campus Ministry Leader and guitarist. 116) Beyonder2000 - Catholic | Church of the Holy Rosary 117) Pinarello - Charismatic/Apostolic| World Harvest Church, Setapak KL| PA Crew, Cellgroup Intern 118) Baby_Krys - NTGH Penang | LCD 119) Vorador - New Creation Church Singapore 120) Robin Hood - Catholic | St Philip Tamparuli, Sabah 121) lookig4room - CBC - Sunway Subang 122) figuremeout - SIB Grace Kuching, Sarawak | Music Ministry 123) khaiandrew - Roman Catholic | St Ignatius 124) wrigleyz - Anglican | St.Thomas Bintulu,Sarawak 125) Relentless - Subang Methodist Church, Sunway 126) leongboyz - FGA 127) Busquets - Catholic||Sacred Heart cathedral(KK,Sabah) and St.Joseph(Kuching,Sarawak)||Bassist(Choir),Campus Catholic Music Ministry 128) fakeshadow - protestant | City Harvest Church | hospitality 129) laucn : AOG | usher team leader & cell group leader 130) supervai - | usher | DUMC 131) more2teayap - Methodist | Mudun Chinese Methodist Church | Praise and worship team 132) OH- - Catholic | Church of Our Lady of Fatima | Kangar, Perlis - Organist 133) Unknown Warrior - River of Life Sanctuary | Forum Paderi 134) Flar3star - Methodist | Wesley Methodist Church Kepong 135) saimonfung - SIB | SIB Bandar Tawau & SIB Pekan Kinarut | P&W team (guitar) 136) Valx129 - Roman Catholic | Church of the Divine Mercy, Penang | Catechist 137) brianginsos - AOG | Breakthru' Worship Community Church, Kota Kinabalu | Creative Multimedia 138) Carlo J - AOG | Metro Tabernacle A/G | Cafeteria 139) De_Luffy - Klang Chinese Methodist Church
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yea.. looking for conference to join keep me in the loops
The guy is spreading nonsense like
If He hears "god's Voice" asking him to kill anyone, He actually said He will do it. Then he starts talking things like Advance magic like levitation spell and nonsense.
Then he says that what's in the Bible is not important. Context is not important.
There's exception to what is Sin. Bible never teaches that. Sin is Sin.
Worse of all, he paints all of us here as "losers" He's the only winner, then judged everyone with their weaknesses. The Last cake was telling Only He qualify to lead and open the New Christian fellowship thread.
haih.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 30 2015, 03:33 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
From: Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 30 2015, 03:29 PM)
The guy is spreading nonsense like
If He hears "god's Voice" asking him to kill anyone, He actually said He will do it. Then he starts talking things like Advance magic like levitation spell and nonsense.
Then he says that what's in the Bible is not important. Context is not important.
There's exception to what is Sin. Bible never teaches that. Sin is Sin.
Worse of all, he paints all of us here as "losers" He's the only winner, then judged everyone with their weaknesses. The Last cake was telling Only He qualify to lead and open the New Christian fellowship thread.
haih.
I've reported his thread, saying nothing more than how we already have an official thread here.
This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jan 30 2015, 03:40 PM
If He hears "god's Voice" asking him to kill anyone, He actually said He will do it. Then he starts talking things like Advance magic like levitation spell and nonsense.
Then he says that what's in the Bible is not important. Context is not important.
There's exception to what is Sin. Bible never teaches that. Sin is Sin.
Worse of all, he paints all of us here as "losers" He's the only winner, then judged everyone with their weaknesses. The Last cake was telling Only He qualify to lead and open the New Christian fellowship thread.
haih.
probably a troller..
eh unknown got do gathering mou ? maybe can fellowship together like once every two months or so
This post has been edited by subimpact: Jan 30 2015, 03:53 PM
I'll say it's ego, and it will be closer to the truth if he is in his 30s, and is married.
It is also a form of mental instability, as he is constantly trying to seek attention by making dramatic claims.
i am also in the 30's but i believe he is around in the 40's or late 30's, unlike him i do not post nonsense and i don't go around spreading wrong teaching.......i also lazy wanted to talk more more like silent reader here only posted here when i feel needed to clarify some things
i am busy with CNY preparation from next month onward, next day going to do painting work as well
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This post has been edited by De_Luffy: Jan 30 2015, 05:40 PM
Lol. I remember someone used to tell me that's also a forever alone day.
well because those without bf/gf is forever alone on that day........
Valentine day is actually held in remembrance of St valentine, a Franciscan priest who ignored the government order not to solemnize couples into marriage was put to death
Joined: Apr 2008
From: Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 30 2015, 06:23 PM)
I think the foreveralones should organize a march around KL and protest in front of the restaurants and florist to prevent them from celebrating this horrible day.
Nah, I rather not. Doing so might cause my crush to feel guilty of some sort, and I didn't want her to feel that way.
Since I dont know who has the right to open a new thread and there are no specific rules of who should have the right to open a new thread,
Im gonna leave both thread open. The one with less active members/forumers will eventually get pushed behind.
Same thing we did with other threads where both TS fights for the right to open the next version thread.
Be warned that if someone starts spamming the topic with the intention to bump up the thread or flames the other thread, warnings/suspension will be handed out.
This post has been edited by tarvalslain87: Jan 30 2015, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 30 2015, 06:29 PM)
Luffy is right someone actually died for Valentine's day.
Yeap, which in turn makes sense on how that day is considered as a romantic one.
QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Jan 30 2015, 06:31 PM)
Since I dont know who has the right to open a new thread and there are no specific rules of who should have the right to open a new thread,
Im gonna leave both thread open. The one with less active members/forumers will eventually get pushed behind.
Same thing we did with other threads where both TS fights for the right to open the next version thread.
Be warned that if someone starts spamming the topic with the intention to bump up the thread or flames the other thread, warnings/suspension will be handed out.
In my mind, I said Oh my Gosh. Is this about power struggle?
Leadership is about elevating and empowering others to be leader not claiming for one self, hijacking it for personal vendetta, lording over others (which he did in his own v9 tered)
That's why I encouraged other regular posters in here to take up the role of leading by opening up the next Christian Fellowship Thread. We are all here to guide each other. Good thing de_luffy is humble, even asking for advise in PM. Now that is mark of a leader.
de1929 is not ready to lead anyone.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 30 2015, 07:39 PM
I know our country hv some controversy lately but the call to ban valentine's day, I really support.
The main objective of valentine day is actually not romantic it's a sad day or memorial day for st valentine couple gather together to celebrate his death in glory for without him many of the men that time would die without any spouse.
If you dislike valentine day that much just stay at home watch video or TV although most TV would be airing romantic movies still there are many other channels worth to watch too
I am single too I am not bothered of them couples having romantic night together in fact I can do alot of things in my home Afterall cny is approaching major cleaning is required around the house
Since I dont know who has the right to open a new thread and there are no specific rules of who should have the right to open a new thread,
Im gonna leave both thread open. The one with less active members/forumers will eventually get pushed behind.
Same thing we did with other threads where both TS fights for the right to open the next version thread.
Be warned that if someone starts spamming the topic with the intention to bump up the thread or flames the other thread, warnings/suspension will be handed out.
i am busy with CNY preparation from next month onward, next day going to do painting work as well
off topics, CNY is approaching soon, have you polished your car yet? we are offering 3 steps wash, polish and wax all for RM 120 only. You can send your car to us or we can polish for you at your home as long there is a source of water and power, additional polishing on other areas is available upon request. price may be vary for additional request
PS: if you wanted us to do it at your home, we offer you a rebate of rm 20 also we provide warranty up to 6 months and our product is original Meguiar's products Please pm me for more details or you can login to facebook and pm me luffy cheah or raymond kuan for more details thank you
oooh you're the guys who does auto detailing at ppl's home.
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What do you guys think of this video below? I sincerely think that God may be residing in the 10th, or even higher dimensions, which are out of our reach:
If we are to assume that God indeed is residing in the higher dimensions, somehow I think it'll make sense when God has access to several different realities in our lives, and it made me imagined if Adam and Eve could have made a different choice in the Garden of Eve.
In addition, this seem to answer one of the questions people always have, "Why does God set Adam up to fail?" If we are to assume that God resides in the higher dimensions, then God did not set Adam up to fail, it's just means that our universe, this universe that you and I are in, is the universe where Adam and Eve made the wrong choice, and chose to disobey God.
Just my opinion.
This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jan 30 2015, 08:33 PM
What do you guys think of this video below? I sincerely think that God may be residing in the 10th, or even higher dimensions, which are out of our reach:
If we are to assume that God indeed is residing in the higher dimensions, somehow I think it'll make sense when God has access to several different realities in our lives, and it made me imagined if Adam and Eve could have made a different choice in the Garden of Eve.
In addition, this seem to answer one of the questions people always have, "Why does God set Adam up to fail?" If we are to assume that God resides in the higher dimensions, then God did not set Adam up to fail, it's just means that our universe, this universe that you and I are in, is the universe where Adam and Eve made the wrong choice, and chose to disobey God.
Just my opinion.
too long the video, about 10th dimensions i am not sure about it
God does not set Adam to fail, although he knows everything yet he cannot make Man fail, it's the Satan that tempted Man and He fall to Satan temptations
i can't since he created his own thread and in this thread there is no existence of him yet, do read back my first posts updated with few videos and writings
while i am on it, tina please update your details here like which church are you attending? so i can put your name in the members list
This post has been edited by De_Luffy: Jan 30 2015, 09:24 PM
i can't since he created his own thread and in this thread there is no existence of him yet, do read back my first posts updated with few videos and writings
while i am on it, tina please update your details here like which church are you attending? so i can put your name in the members list
Aww, man, that sucks big time.
Some Baptist Church in PJ. I don't want to disclose the full name. Hope you understand.
i am busy with CNY preparation from next month onward, next day going to do painting work as well
off topics, CNY is approaching soon, have you polished your car yet? we are offering 3 steps wash, polish and wax all for RM 120 only. You can send your car to us or we can polish for you at your home as long there is a source of water and power, additional polishing on other areas is available upon request. price may be vary for additional request
PS: if you wanted us to do it at your home, we offer you a rebate of rm 20 also we provide warranty up to 6 months and our product is original Meguiar's products Please pm me for more details or you can login to facebook and pm me luffy cheah or raymond kuan for more details thank you
When is CNY? I'll be going to Cambodia next month.
Barry Meguiar is the President of Meguiar. An Evangelical Christian.
QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jan 30 2015, 06:08 PM)
well because those without bf/gf is forever alone on that day........
Valentine day is actually held in remembrance of St valentine, a Franciscan priest who ignored the government order not to solemnize couples into marriage was put to death
Valentine Day is an over-rated Western culture and is overly commercialized.
Even when I was in a relationship, I didn't see any big deal in celebrating this pointless day.
What do you guys think of this video below? I sincerely think that God may be residing in the 10th, or even higher dimensions, which are out of our reach:
If we are to assume that God indeed is residing in the higher dimensions, somehow I think it'll make sense when God has access to several different realities in our lives, and it made me imagined if Adam and Eve could have made a different choice in the Garden of Eve.
In addition, this seem to answer one of the questions people always have, "Why does God set Adam up to fail?" If we are to assume that God resides in the higher dimensions, then God did not set Adam up to fail, it's just means that our universe, this universe that you and I are in, is the universe where Adam and Eve made the wrong choice, and chose to disobey God.
Just my opinion.
The Bible doesn't mention about dimensions but speaks of 3 Heavens.
In Genesis 1:6 & 1:14 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water | And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years Here is where Earth is created and talks about separation between Sky (Heaven) and Land speaks of Earth Atmosphere, our immediate Sky. First Heaven
In Genesis 1:1 & 2:1 God created the Heavens and the Earth. | Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. Plural, speaks of Deep Space and Galaxies. The second Heavens
In 2 Corinthians:12:1-4 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Third Heaven is basically believed by many Scholars to be the dwelling place of God, the His Throne, his Angels and his saints.
Perhaps out of reach for some, but never for his children.
In our finite mind it's hard to understand this But God is not really not millions of light years away.
If you look here
Matthew 12:28 (KJV) - But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. Luke 17:21 (KJV) - Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
it means that wherever God is, is where his Kingdom is. Something like Doraemon pocket of multiple dimension. This means that as Believers, we have the Kingdom of God in us, why? Because Jesus resides in our heart.
Consider this verse:
*2 Chronicles 6:18 - "But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!
Then read this
Jeremiah 23:24 Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?" declares the LORD. "Do not I fill heaven and earth?" declares the LORD.
The keyword is: He fills the Heaven and the Earth, in other words: He is EVERYWHERE. Omnipresence.
In Closing Summary, He is within reach.
*2 Chronicles 6:18 basically speaks of a very common question we all ask: Where does God reside? And God answered in Jeremiah 23:24 & Luke 17:21.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 30 2015, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 30 2015, 10:11 PM)
The Bible doesn't mention about dimensions but speaks of 3 Heavens.
In Genesis 1:6 & 1:14 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water | And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years Here is where Earth is created and talks about separation between Sky (Heaven) and Land speaks of Earth Atmosphere, our immediate Sky. First Heaven
In Genesis 1:1 & 2:1 God created the Heavens and the Earth. | Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. Plural, speaks of Deep Space and Galaxies. The second Heavens
In 2 Corinthians:12:1-4 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Third Heaven is basically believed by many Scholars to be the dwelling place of God, the His Throne, his Angels and his saints.
Perhaps out of reach for some, but never for his children.
In our finite mind it's hard to understand this But God is not really not millions of light years away.
If you look here
Matthew 12:28 (KJV) - But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. Luke 17:21 (KJV) - Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
it means that wherever God is, is where his Kingdom is. Something like Doraemon pocket of multiple dimension. This means that as Believers, we have the Kingdom of God in us, why? Because Jesus resides in our heart.
Consider this verse:
*2 Chronicles 6:18 - "But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!
Then read this
Jeremiah 23:24 Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?" declares the LORD. "Do not I fill heaven and earth?" declares the LORD.
The keyword is: He fills the Heaven and the Earth, in other words: He is EVERYWHERE. Omnipresence.
In Closing Summary, He is within reach.
*2 Chronicles 6:18 basically speaks of a very common question we all ask: Where does God reside? And God answered in Jeremiah 23:24 & Luke 17:21.
Yeah, I know. It's only an opinion. While He is within our reach, I'm saying it is only possible because He allows it to be. On the other hand, since we are 3rd-dimensional beings, it will be impossible to reach God physically, and I think that's because we will need to transcend the higher dimensions, which we have no access to.
While this opinion may not be biblical in nature, but somehow I think it provides a lot of answers to many questions whenever it involves the existence of God, and also the question of free will, and as well as the question of predestination.
This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jan 30 2015, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I know. It's only an opinion. While He is within our reach, I'm saying it is only possible because He allows it to be. On the other hand, since we are 3rd-dimensional beings, it will be impossible to reach God physically, and I think that's because we will need to transcend the higher dimensions, which we have no access to.
While this opinion may not be biblical in nature, but somehow I think it provides a lot of answers to many questions whenever it involves the existence of God, and also the question of free will, and as well as the question of predestination.
Just have to determined our spirit being, belongs to what dimension.
Because that is the form which by we can see God or reach God. God after all is a spirit being. (John 4:24)
Dr Yonggi Cho stated that the Holy Spirit is in the fourth dimension, very possible so is our spirit being. Not to say, that this is a confirm fact (honestly I don't really know) but just for discussion sake.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 30 2015, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 30 2015, 10:54 PM)
Just have to determined our spirit being, belongs to what dimension.
Because that is the form which by we can see God.
Dr Yonggi Cho stated that the Holy Spirit is in the fourth dimension, very possible so is our spirit being. Not to say, that this is a confirm fact (honestly I don't really know) but just for discussion sake.
Hmm, I wouldn't be too sure about, because the 4th dimension is actually time. Imagine looking at your right and left, and you are able to see yourself 5 minutes in the past, and 5 minutes from now. You could be reading a newspaper in the past, or brushing your teeth in the future, but you'll always see yourself always reading a newspaper in the past and brushing your teeth in the future...constantly, just by simply looking at your left and your right. As 3rd dimensional beings of course, we are always a slave to the present, as we have no physical means to be able to reach to the past nor the future...with the exception of waiting for the future to arrive every time.
Imagine asking a friend out. A 3rd dimensional being will ask 2 things: 1) The place, and 2) The time, or vice versa. A 5th dimensional being however (with access to the 4th dimension), have no need to ask for both information, as they have physical access to time itself. This means they only need to ask where, and 5th dimensional beings will be able to meet each other, unlike us, the 3rd dimensional beings.
This is why I think God is above the 10th dimensions (or even higher) where He is completely unrestricted in time and space, and realities, unlike us human beings.
I don't know about Dr. Yonggi Cho, but I'll need to research a lil' bit more.
This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jan 30 2015, 11:30 PM
Hmm, I wouldn't be too sure about, because the 4th dimension is actually time. Imagine looking at your right and left, and you are able to see yourself 5 minutes in the past, and 5 minutes from now. You could be reading a newspaper in the past, or brushing your teeth in the future, but you'll always see yourself always reading a newspaper in the past and brushing your teeth in the future...constantly, just by simply looking at your left and your right. As 3rd dimensional beings of course, we are always a slave to the present, as we have no physical means to be able to reach to the past nor the future...with the exception of waiting for the future to arrive every time.
Imagine asking a friend out. A 3rd dimensional being will ask 2 things: 1) The place, and 2) The time, or vice versa. A 5th dimensional being however (with access to the 4th dimension), have no need to ask for both information, as they have physical access to time itself. This means they only need to ask where, and 5th dimensional beings will be able to meet each other, unlike us, the 3rd dimensional beings.
This is why I think God is above the 10th dimensions (or even higher) where He is completely unrestricted in time and space, and realities, unlike us human beings.
I don't know about Dr. Yonggi Cho, but I'll need to research a lil' bit more.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 30 2015, 11:35 PM)
Does it matter which dimension God is at?
God is omnipresent.
Yeah well, the theory is that the reason He is omnipresent was because He isn't bound by the limitations that we have, by being in the higher dimensions.
Yeah well, the theory is that the reason He is omnipresent was because He isn't bound by the limitations that we have, by being in the higher dimensions.
This reminds me of Stephen Hawking. He's convinced that God doesn't exist. But he can't prove it.
IF God didn't exist, who created the Universe? Who created God? God didn't create himself.
God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.8 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific).
1. God exists in timeless eternity 2. God exists in multiple dimensions of time
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 30 2015, 11:43 PM)
This reminds me of Stephen Hawking. He's convinced that God doesn't exist. But he can't prove it.
IF God didn't exist, who created the Universe? Who created God? God didn't create himself.
God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.8 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific).
1. God exists in timeless eternity 2. God exists in multiple dimensions of time
AH! I understand what you mean. But you see, little do the physicists know (or at least I think they're keeping quiet about it), is that the string theory today, i.e. The Theory of Everything, could very well prove the existence of God, and answers many questions within the scientific community. Problem is, it remains still a theory today, and only in writing, because mankind has no really found a way to create a machine or to control these dimensions. Until then, there will be people in the scientific community who are not going to believe, which I believe by the time they're on to something, the existence of God will pretty much be established.
To all quantum and theoretical physicists who are reading this, this is merely my opinion. Chill.
The string theory, the Dark matter, and the Dark flow are currently, in my opinion, are the only game in town (within the scientific community) whenever it comes to the science to the question of existence, and perhaps, to the question of the existence of God.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 31 2015, 12:00 AM)
Ah, I was never a good science student.
Bet DE going bonkers IF he read about this theory.
Nah, no worries. I sincerely believe that the best way to enjoy science is to have an interest in imagination itself. The string theory was written based on how we can imagine ourselves looking at a piece of paper with two points in space, and how we can simply fold the paper itself to create what physicists call the "wormhole", to literally "bend" time and space. That takes imagination, and is obviously not observable. But since they can write out the equations on a piece of paper, it is somehow integrated to science, that is, a scientific theory for the time being.
Oh no. I'm afraid he'll misunderstood scientific theories for his ego.
But this is something really cool, and when I'll draw a diagram soon, just show I can post it here. It's basically how we, as human beings view time and space, in comparison to how God views them.
I was always stucked in the questions on how God can exists without affecting free will, and without affecting the world how He wanted it to be. With string theory, I may have very well found certain (which is close to scientific) answers to those questions.
This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jan 31 2015, 12:17 AM
Oh no. I'm afraid he'll misunderstood science for his wild fantasies.
QUOTE
The right thing is ask HS. Always ask HS and don't think right / wrong.
I think this is his famous tagline.
Basically you can ask DE all kind of questions, regardless or not he knows the answers (most of the time he don't have a clue)....Then he'll tell us "Ask HS."
There's a famous quote, "There's no such thing as a stupid questions, only stupid answers."
This post has been edited by tinarhian: Jan 31 2015, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 31 2015, 12:16 AM)
I think this is his famous tagline.
Basically you can ask DE all kind of questions, regardless or not he knows the answers (most of the time he don't have a clue)....Then he'll tell us "Ask HS."
There's a famous quote, "There's no such thing as a stupid questions, only stupid answers."
We better stop. Didn't want him to feel too bad reading this.
What do you guys think of this video below? I sincerely think that God may be residing in the 10th, or even higher dimensions, which are out of our reach:
If we are to assume that God indeed is residing in the higher dimensions, somehow I think it'll make sense when God has access to several different realities in our lives, and it made me imagined if Adam and Eve could have made a different choice in the Garden of Eve.
In addition, this seem to answer one of the questions people always have, "Why does God set Adam up to fail?" If we are to assume that God resides in the higher dimensions, then God did not set Adam up to fail, it's just means that our universe, this universe that you and I are in, is the universe where Adam and Eve made the wrong choice, and chose to disobey God.
Just my opinion.
u into string theory or something mate?
here's an interesting write up which i had read recently : http://www.raptureready.com/soap2/mangan10.html
Better to spend that extra money on family instead. BF can find, but family you can't.
Ok, I take back what I said about being a reasonable girlfriend. Jk.
True, family is important.
Families are close to God’s heart. In fact, they were His idea in the first place. From the beginning, when God created man, He said, “It is not good for man to be alone,” so He created woman as a “help-meet, suitable for him” (Genesis 2:18). Then, He blessed them and told them, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish [fill] the earth” (Genesis 1:28). Even after they fell into sin, God continued with His plan for families, and even spoke prophetically of the salvation that would come through the seed of the woman (Genesis 3:15).
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 30 2015, 11:31 PM)
Paul teaches us to be humble right, but even then, some of us can't emulate Paul let alone Jesus.
Acts 20:19
I served the Lord with great humility and with tears and in the midst of severe testing by the plots of my Jewish opponents.
But Paul had ‘all humility’, including humility of mind: intellectual humility.
Satan was proud right, thinking that he's on equal terms with God?
It's difficult but it's not impossible, we have to pray for God to humble us and fill us with humility.
On the other hand, Satan was filled with pride, he desired to be God, not to be a servant of God. Satan was likely the highest of all angels, the most beautiful of all of God's creations, but he was not content in his position. Instead, Satan desired to be God, to essentially “kick God off His throne” and take over the rule of the universe thus he was cast out of heaven.
someone is so desperate to get his thread active by posting on the thread all by himself............i find it's quite hilarious and lame at the same time
someone is so desperate to get his thread active by posting on the thread all by himself............i find it's quite hilarious and lame at the same time
Not his own self written post, he just copy and paste from someone, I know where he got it from.
well, it's on saturday though, the most packed day in restaurants, if you have time might go shops for cny stuffs or stay at home
UW, i don't get him at all so desperate? man that is too lame!
de1929 is still in the growing up process. Immature kid in a grown up body. Just see it that way.
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 31 2015, 09:47 AM)
My downfall is I forget to put God at the center and I tend to idolize marriage...
People tell me that we shouldn't look to marriage to solve our problems, because marriage is the beginning of our problems, couples have to solve their differences. They tell me to get my life right with God first before i think of such things.
Yup that's correct. Don't think marriage will solve your loneliness problem, it doesn't. Because say for example when argument gets in the way, your perspective will shatter and realize God is the only one you can find solace and comfort without the pain of rejection.
Yoh guys, how the week? I been sick for 2 weeks, everyday pray for God to heal my cough but nothing happened... end up check wif doctor the cough cost by sinus.. haha...
God dun heal symptoms without solving the root cause..
My downfall is I forget to put God at the center and I tend to idolize marriage...
People tell me that we shouldn't look to marriage to solve our problems, because marriage is the beginning of our problems, couples have to solve their differences. They tell me to get my life right with God first before i think of such things.
Morning Everyone.
I wouldn't go as far as to say marriage is the Beginning of our problems. The truth is we all have our existing problems, when we marry, we bring both our problems to the marriage and together with adjusting with living full time with each other, the problems create new bigger ones.
The first couple of years will be the most difficult, but everyone can get through them if you understand and remember you marriage vows. And If you remember that love is not merely a feeling but an act of will, especially when you feel you want to kill you better half.
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Yoh guys, how the week? I been sick for 2 weeks, everyday pray for God to heal my cough but nothing happened... end up check wif doctor the cough cost by sinus.. haha...
God dun heal symptoms without solving the root cause..
Just keep on believing that you don't have to earn anything to receive your healing. If you feel it's because of sin, just look to Jesus as your atonement. Everything is covered for in God.
What I do is, if nothing works, I pray to God to direct me to the right Clinic and God to lead the nurse and doctor to prescribe the right and most effective medicine. Both Healing and even Doctors falls under the Grace of God.
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 31 2015, 10:11 AM)
I realised that there r two different views of men & women in rships.
Men always think that once they are in a rship, they got the right to debate and discuss stuff with the girl.
Women think the best solution to rship is compatibility, so they just keep quiet and watch how the guy handle things. If he pass the test...then the next level only the women will discuss or debate differences with the guy.
you haven't met Woman who will speak up and argue with you straight on in a relationship?
You should try and engage conversation skill with all types of woman. Sometimes it's painful but we learn.
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Just keep on believing that you don't have to earn anything to receive your healing. If you feel it's because of sin, just look to Jesus as your atonement. Everything is covered for in God.
What I do is, if nothing works, I pray to God to direct me to the right Clinic and God to lead the nurse and doctor to prescribe the right and most effective medicine. Both Healing and even Doctors falls under the Grace of God.
you haven't met Woman who will speak up and argue with you straight on in a relationship?
You should try and engage conversation skill with all types of woman. Sometimes it's painful but we learn.
Bro wat I meant is I was asking the wrong thing for 2 weeks... the cough was the results for sinus infection... even if its heal it will come back...
The gap between my 1st and 2nd rship is 9 years. So whatever lessons I learn in my 1st, I completely forgotten.
I find that I like rship with christians even though it means a lot more challenging. Christian girls are very careful, they will evaluate you first before they want to jump into serious relationship with you. Being with a christian girl, would mean that you both got common values even though at times I tend to be a bit worldly. I was a buddhist before I converted. I didn't have the privalege of being brought up in a christian family.
Neither was I brought up in a christian family. Had to go through a lot of persecution.
I faced some persecution too. Today my parents are ok with me going to church.
I faced literal persecution, got physical stuff thrown at me, jeered and insulted, ridiculed mocked, you name it. It's very hard for me because I was quite young back then, was in my 20's.
Amazingly God somewhat transformed my dad, though not as bad as last time but still I count it much better.
This made me convince all the more why christianity is the truth over any other religion even Islam. There were many attempts by the malays in this forum who tried to convince me but I don't think they will be able to, they don't know the hell i went through for my Faith. And God is with me through thick and thin. He is Very Graceful.
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why is in christian, the small and big sins same? sins all are same? so corruption big million dollars same sins with you forgot to pay small money you owed rm5 to your friend in your childhood?
Saturday is usually dating day for me...now i sit at home not even dare to go to shopping mall.
When my granny was alive, my family, uncles aunties and cousins used to come to granny place to celebrate CNY. Now, my granny passed away, so all the uncles and aunties dunno why dun feel like gathering anymore. So this year could be a quiet CNY.
Listen here when your grandma was still on this earth, all the relativescale comes to visit her during cny because she is the most senior person in the family, and now that your grandma is no longer around you as the younger generation should visity your uncles and aunts.
You are nobody so stop complaining and make an effort to visit them during cny for it's a custom and your duty to do so
This post has been edited by De_Luffy: Jan 31 2015, 03:18 PM
why is in christian, the small and big sins same? sins all are same? so corruption big million dollars same sins with you forgot to pay small money you owed rm5 to your friend in your childhood?
Sin actually means "missing the mark" (or not reaching a standards). So there is no such thing as 'big' or 'small' sins because they all fall short of God's standards.
Btw, please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm by no means a Bible expert.
why is in christian, the small and big sins same? sins all are same? so corruption big million dollars same sins with you forgot to pay small money you owed rm5 to your friend in your childhood?
As Below.
QUOTE(Asenav @ Jan 31 2015, 04:11 PM)
Sin actually means "missing the mark" (or not reaching a standards). So there is no such thing as 'big' or 'small' sins because they all fall short of God's standards.
Btw, please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm by no means a Bible expert.
Yes you're right.
In 1 John 1:9 (NIV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
The Word Sin there in the Greek is hamartias (missing the mark) is a noun not a verb. Noun means it's a state of being, not deed.
someone is so desperate to get his thread active by posting on the thread all by himself............i find it's quite hilarious and lame at the same time
In 1 John 1:9 (NIV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. The Word Sin there in the Greek is hamartias (missing the mark) is a noun not a verb. Noun means it's a state of being, not deed.
so why not being corrupted as much as possible usd 50 million project then confess then go jail after that can have financial freedom?
The guy went rebel and self nominate himself as leader.
hahaha so desperate.
U know what he told Luffy? can you believe this? Aiyo this is like power struggle.
Actually it works put for the best.
He has isolated himself and exposed himself for what he really is. Anyone viewing his thread will immediately know its fake.
We are spared his random posts and if he tries to return his post can be immediately deleted with justification, as he has done with Luffy in his fake thread.
We can now forget him in peace and not be bothered with what he does in his own thread.
He has isolated himself and exposed himself for what he really is. Anyone viewing his thread will immediately know its fake.
We are spared his random posts and if he tries to return his post can be immediately deleted with justification, as he has done with Luffy in his fake thread.
We can now forget him in peace and not be bothered with what he does in his own thread.
I mean yeah, but in a way I also feel.....sad it had to happen like that. de1929 has been with us for a long time.
I'm still trying to understand what went through the thick head of his that he had to react like this.
It doesn't make any sense to me, before this he was quite neutral and okay.
I mean yeah, but in a way I also feel.....sad it had to happen like that. de1929 has been with us for a long time.
I'm still trying to understand what went through the thick head of his that he had to react like this.
It doesn't make any sense to me, before this he was quite neutral and okay.
The seeds of wrong teaching takes time to manifest. The enemy never comes with poison and tells us, HERE! This is poison! Eat! He puts a little in a nice delicious sandwich and offers it to us and if we are not discerning we swallow it whole.
In DE's case it has borne fruit and we see it for what it is clearly.
It's sad, his mind he is still right and all of us are wrong.
The seeds of wrong teaching takes time to manifest. The enemy never comes with poison and tells us, HERE! This is poison! Eat! He puts a little in a nice delicious sandwich and offers it to us and if we are not discerning we swallow it whole.
In DE's case it has borne fruit and we see it for what it is clearly.
It's sad, his mind he is still right and all of us are wrong.
That is the biggest problem that trigger everything.
I suppose i can do this, organize visits to my uncle/auntie house. I will ask my parents and my bro to go as a family to visit our uncle & auntie house.
good to hear that, just get yourself busy with something else on that particular days, you know those with family already they don't go out but they stay at home and there are few that are working until late night too and no time for dinners only had their supper as dinner, just because the world is like that doesn't mean you need to follow them.
set your own path
my scolding to you earlier is not means to judge you but to wake you up if i have gone overboard i'm sorry
ok here is a nice song for you hope you enjoy listening to it
someone is so desperate to get his thread active by posting on the thread all by himself............i find it's quite hilarious and lame at the same time
Why must Das Esel desperately need to copy and paste some forum member's posts over here to his own thread?
The sign of depression perhaps?
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 31 2015, 09:40 AM)
Which part of Cambodia are you going to?
There's an almond hotel in Phnom Penh that you should avoid...its next to the main road...cambodians like to honk honk in the early morning 5am. The morning dim sum is nice though. You should try the mutton soup there, very nice, like steam boat.
Good on you, everyday in a rship is valentine day.
Phnom Penh.
Ok noted. I'm staying at The Pavilion. Its like 30mins drive from the International Airport.
I'm going with my parents and my 2 girlfriends.
Is Bak Kut Teh available over there?
Valentine Day is not necessarily spending it with your bf / gf. It can be with your loved ones as well.
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 31 2015, 09:41 AM)
Thx...just that valentine's day make me feel sad.
Aww, get a cat or dog or donkey.
Although sometimes a donkey can be quite stubborn because they can't and won't follow instructions clearly.
And they can't get along with others if you know what I mean. hehe...
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 31 2015, 09:45 AM)
Not really but it be beneficial to join a cg.
Yesterday I got a lot of bro-love from my cg members. I was down and told them of my problems, they came up and prayed for me, gave me some good tips. I am brave to tell my cg because they are a small cg of only 7 members (not including kids). So not too many people to share your personal stuff with.
I joined a cg, mostly senior people in my cg.
They a quite spriteful for their age.
There's 30 old people in my CG.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 31 2015, 09:55 AM)
de1929 is still in the growing up process. Immature kid in a grown up body. Just see it that way. Yup that's correct. Don't think marriage will solve your loneliness problem, it doesn't. Because say for example when argument gets in the way, your perspective will shatter and realize God is the only one you can find solace and comfort without the pain of rejection.
So he's still a man child la.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 31 2015, 11:20 AM)
I faced literal persecution, got physical stuff thrown at me, jeered and insulted, ridiculed mocked, you name it. It's very hard for me because I was quite young back then, was in my 20's.
Amazingly God somewhat transformed my dad, though not as bad as last time but still I count it much better.
This made me convince all the more why christianity is the truth over any other religion even Islam. There were many attempts by the malays in this forum who tried to convince me but I don't think they will be able to, they don't know the hell i went through for my Faith. And God is with me through thick and thin. He is Very Graceful.
Who did this to you? OIC.
Your family must have hated you becoming a Christian then.
Praise The Lord for yours and their patience.
This post has been edited by tinarhian: Jan 31 2015, 10:23 PM
this old senile donkey doesn't know when to stop his tirade against every traditional churches out there, so i delete his post, he did once more time I'm going to delete every posts he posted here
This post has been edited by De_Luffy: Jan 31 2015, 10:23 PM
this old senile donkey doesn't know when to stop his tirade against every traditional churches out there, so i delete his post, he did once more time I'm going to delete every posts he posted here
Cool!
Today I went shopping at Sogo from 9am to 9pm.
Wholesale clearance for members only today!!! Whoa!!
today i spent nearly rm 500 on paints for my house just exteriors wall and metal gate and fence, then night time when to supermarket buy drinks and stuffs for CNY visitations, still not done yet, still got few more things on my list to buy............getting broke soon
today i spent nearly rm 500 on paints for my house just exteriors wall and metal gate and fence, then night time when to supermarket buy drinks and stuffs for CNY visitations, still not done yet, still got few more things on my list to buy............getting broke soon
Well, I bought cosmetics coz they were cheap. Some Tefal pots and pans, deep fryer, shoes, handbags, and kids stuffs for nieces and nephews.
of course I love my parents and everyone loves his/her parents. that question is for example la not for me.
Let say you were caught for CBT and the judge sentence you to life imprisonment. Let say your dad, plead with the Judge to let you go and take him in as prisoner for life.
And the Judge agree to trade your dad in your place. Do you think you still have the heart to enjoy that 50Million dollars?
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 31 2015, 10:35 PM
Let say you were caught for CBT and the judge sentence you to life imprisonment. Let say your dad, plead with the Judge to let you go and take him in as prisoner for life.
And the Judge agree to trade your dad in your place. Do you think you still have the heart to enjoy that 50Million dollars?
no la. maybe only 3-5 yrs only if you bribed the judge rm 5 million and you can get 5 stars jail room with aircon and astro if you bribe another 2million. true story bro
do you mind we have conversation in my thread ? my post was deleted.
Not until you apologize to everyone in here and admit that you're wrong. You take back everything you've said against everyone. Not until you learn to be humble
Not until you apologize to everyone in here and admit that you're wrong. You take back everything you've said against everyone. Not until you learn to be humble
no la. maybe only 3-5 yrs only if you bribed the judge rm 5 million and you can get 5 stars jail room with aircon and astro if you bribe another 2million. true story bro
no la = no heart to enjoy that money right?
Because you asked the question, why not sin as much as possible then ask for forgiveness?
Is because you don't know how much God love you, is the same reason why people bound themselves to sin.
God have given me so much in life, I should give some back in return. Besides, I can't bring my wealth to heaven.
why don't you give me? I need money. This is what I hate about christian girls. Most of them are very generous to give money to poor, tithe, etc but they suck money of bf liao.
Because you asked the question, why not sin as much as possible then ask for forgiveness?
Is because you don't know how much God love you, is the same reason why people bound themselves to sin.
not as much as possible but I want to argue small and big sins! In catholic they differentiate small and big sins! However, I don't agree killing people sin = white lie sin because I never commit big sins. not fair la for good man like me. so rape sin = kiss your gf sin? sian..
if HS asked me to kill, and yes i can choose to exercise my freewill or i can obey killing. That's what i believe if HS approved me to bribe to save the kids, i will bribe. context is not the king, JESUS is. UW always correct, no. prophetjul always correct, no. -- these few tops are not negotiable --
take back everything i said against everyone ? can no problem. learn to be humble can...
-- i double post in my thread for security
there you goes spouting nonsense once again way over again
not as much as possible but I want to argue small and big sins! In catholic they differentiate small and big sins! However, I don't agree killing people sin = white lie sin because I never commit big sins. not fair la for good man like me. so rape sin = kiss your gf sin? sian..
If your Father is willing to go to jail for you even for the "small" sin, you still have the heart to enjoy that?
I want to apologize to Tinarhian because I teased her back. I am very sorry to hurt her heart. really sorry my friend Tinarhian..
I'm please Der Clown has apologized. From today I shall refer to you as "Der Clown."
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 31 2015, 11:02 PM)
Basically I told him, "Excuse me. Why must you summoned me? I'm a foreigner living in your land. I don't know your custom and rules. Its not a yellow line. Because due to bad weather, the yellow lines has disappeared. So I thought I can park here.
Furthermore, GST is coming, how am I going to afford my LVs and Pradas? Are you going to pay for it? I don't have a boyfriend. My cousins are still schooling. I don't have a full time job. I'm a freelancer.
My donkey is giving me problems, he won't eat grass, hay and grain that I have given to him. I think he's depressed.
I know he's lonely because he's missing his companions. I can't go to jail because I'm going to Cambodia soon. I want to visit Angkor Wat and eat deep fried lizard."
I'm please Der Clown has apologized. From today I shall refer to you as "Der Clown." Basically I told him, "Excuse me. Why must you summoned me? I'm a foreigner living in your land. I don't know your custom and rules. Its not a yellow line. Because due to bad weather, the yellow lines has disappeared. So I thought I can park here.
Furthermore, GST is coming, how am I going to afford my LVs and Pradas? Are you going to pay for it? I don't have a boyfriend. My cousins are still schooling. I don't have a full time job. I'm a freelancer.
My donkey is giving me problems, he won't eat grass, hay and grain that I have given to him. I think he's depressed.
I know he's lonely because he's missing his companions. I can't go to jail because I'm going to Cambodia soon. I want to visit Angkor Wat and eat deep fried lizard."
Yeah, I've said all that above in an angry tone.
oh..so you remember das essel in every second in your life you are blessed liao. I wanna go cambodia to eat scorpion. how many days will you stay there?
I'm please Der Clown has apologized. From today I shall refer to you as "Der Clown." Basically I told him, "Excuse me. Why must you summoned me? I'm a foreigner living in your land. I don't know your custom and rules. Its not a yellow line. Because due to bad weather, the yellow lines has disappeared. So I thought I can park here.
Furthermore, GST is coming, how am I going to afford my LVs and Pradas? Are you going to pay for it? I don't have a boyfriend. My cousins are still schooling. I don't have a full time job. I'm a freelancer.
My donkey is giving me problems, he won't eat grass, hay and grain that I have given to him. I think he's depressed.
I know he's lonely because he's missing his companions. I can't go to jail because I'm going to Cambodia soon. I want to visit Angkor Wat and eat deep fried lizard."
Yeah, I've said all that above in an angry tone.
You ah. Very the funny yo.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 31 2015, 11:17 PM
Yup. But you get what I'm trying to say with the father story?
sometimes we cannot avoid sins bro. we commit sins not on purpose. I think should change mindset that god always bless me and make me rich so we do not need to be corrupted. Another I have a problem, one friend owed me rm 8k, she now only paid 1.5k for installment. each month pays me rm300 but this month she said that she does not know when can pay me since she also struggles with her biz. what should I do bro? what should I pray? sian so stressful if doesn't have money.
I don't know why I always lost money 1. getting conned by insurance agent rm3k lost 2. getting conned buy online rm25 3. getting conned in fb coz friend wanna borrow money rm300 4. lost in stock market rm 8k
Dont know what road this is at. Almost got fine too. Luckily uncle told me.
I'm not familiar with KL road names. I just drive around with my Waze.
By the time I reached my car, the cop was there.
So I talk to him angrily in German, hahaha...
No summons was given.
There are two more beef noodle restaurants in the vicinity at Jalan Pudu which are really good too. Don't rely on waze all the time, it told me to go straight at a dead end few times.
Scolding him in German sounds fun haha.
Learn our road names
This post has been edited by Carlo J: Jan 31 2015, 11:38 PM
I don't know why I always lost money 1. getting conned by insurance agent rm3k lost 2. getting conned buy online rm25 3. getting conned in fb coz friend wanna borrow money rm300 4. lost in stock market rm 8k
always no luck managing money one
Pray for wisdom bro.
Don't trust those deals that are too good to be true. It's more or less a scam. I got conned by mlm once.
Don't trust those deals that are too good to be true. It's more or less a scam. I got conned by mlm once.
any pray words for wisdom bro? Maybe I have to get used to pray before did anything. I always pray while I ride my bike and Jesus always take cares of me.
sometimes we cannot avoid sins bro. we commit sins not on purpose. I think should change mindset that god always bless me and make me rich so we do not need to be corrupted. Another I have a problem, one friend owed me rm 8k, she now only paid 1.5k for installment. each month pays me rm300 but this month she said that she does not know when can pay me since she also struggles with her biz. what should I do bro? what should I pray? sian so stressful if doesn't have money.
That is why I urge you to understand about the story of the Father who will go to Jail for you, for all the sins you've committed. Because the more you understand it, his grace will bring you out of it. It will be the end of the power of sin over your life.
Romans 5:6 (ESV) - For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
Now I'm not encouraging you to sin. Please understand where I'm coming from. But everytime and (IF) you fall into sin, the grace of Christ is there for you.
And if you think that, "oh like that means I can sin as I want lah" Then remember what I've told you? Do you still have the heart to sin knowing your own father is willing to go to Jail for you? You said No, right? You feel more attached because He is your own Father.
Well your Heavenly Father is the one who gave you Life while you were just a tiny dot of life in your Mom's womb. He is also your own Father. He went to Jail by sending Christ.
oh..so you remember das essel in every second in your life you are blessed liao. I wanna go cambodia to eat scorpion. how many days will you stay there?
Almost 2 weeks.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 31 2015, 11:15 PM)
You ah. Very the funny yo.
And they say Germans are dull people.
QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 31 2015, 11:22 PM)
you should try gangnam style rice at petaling street. very nice! I like minced meat noodles
Are you trolling me again?
QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 31 2015, 11:26 PM)
I don't know why I always lost money 1. getting conned by insurance agent rm3k lost 2. getting conned buy online rm25 3. getting conned in fb coz friend wanna borrow money rm300 4. lost in stock market rm 8k
always no luck managing money one
Are you trolling again? Why do you always lose money?
QUOTE(Carlo J @ Jan 31 2015, 11:35 PM)
There are two more beef noodle restaurants in the vicinity at Jalan Pudu which are really good too. Don't rely on waze all the time, it told me to go straight at a dead end few times.
Scolding him in German sounds fun haha.
Learn our road names
Waze is unreliable.
So many Jalan with long and winded names.
QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 31 2015, 11:44 PM)
Tinarhian can eat on the road street. will be cheap to date tinarhian
I always like street food. I'm not that cheap, Der Clown.
That is why I urge you to understand about the story of the Father who will go to Jail for you, for all the sins you've committed. Because the more you understand it, his grace will bring you out of it. It will be the end of the power of sin over your life. Romans 5:6 (ESV) - For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
Now I'm not encouraging you to sin. Please understand where I'm coming from. But everytime and (IF) you fall into sin, the grace of Christ is there for you.
And if you think that, "oh like that means I can sin as I want lah" Then remember what I've told you? Do you still have the heart to sin knowing your own father is willing to go to Jail for you? You said No, right? You feel more attached because He is your own Father.
Well your Heavenly Father is the one who gave you Life while you were just a tiny dot of life in your Mom's womb. He is also your own Father. He went to Jail by sending Christ.
Yes, but I am jelly aka jealous with people who can commit big sins while our sins and them are same. Imagine you have brother in your family. You always be good in your family and your brother takes drugs and your father still willing to go jail coz of your brother. what do you feel?
This post has been edited by leonhart88: Jan 31 2015, 11:55 PM
any pray words for wisdom bro? Maybe I have to get used to pray before did anything. I always pray while I ride my bike and Jesus always take cares of me.
I just pray for God to grant me wisdom in my daily life. Read Proverbs, it's filled with wise words by King Solomon.
It might sound petty but I pray when I step out of the house, on the road and during my travels.
Romans 16:17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
Matthew 18:17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
And yet I also struggle in my heart to show him Grace, as our Heavenly Father showed us Grace. With the hope that he'll repent.
He seem stubborn and adamant when He said the few things are not negotiable.
1. Bible & Context is not important. 2. If the HS tells Him to "sin" like Bribe or Kill, He will still consider it.
Now we all know this is cult like, it's not in the Bible. If anyone can say Bible is not important, then we have lost all base for reference as to what is right and wrong?
In short, you guys want to "excommunicate" him?
I stand with all your decisions. 2 Days of opinions then we decide.
How long have you been working here? Learn the road names around your place, makes it easier when you're trying to locate a shop or a restaurant, instead of using waze all the time, I use waze when I'm unfamiliar of the location but sometimes it's quite stupid as well.
Almost 2 weeks. And they say Germans are dull people. Are you trolling me again? Are you trolling again? Why do you always lose money? Waze is unreliable.
So many Jalan with long and winded names. I always like street food. I'm not that cheap, Der Clown.
Who trolling? Got gangnam style fried rice in petaling street. u wanna date with me der clown? dunno why I always lost money like that liao.. from now I should pray before take out my money liao. 2 weeks annual leave? u troll? my annual leave is only 12 days max
This post has been edited by leonhart88: Feb 1 2015, 12:00 AM
Romans 16:17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
Matthew 18:17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. And yet I also struggle in my heart to show him Grace, as our Heavenly Father showed us Grace. With the hope that he'll repent.
He seem stubborn and adamant when He said the few things are not negotiable.
1. Bible & Context is not important. 2. If the HS tells Him to "sin" like Bribe or Kill, He will still consider it.
Now we all know this is cult like, it's not in the Bible. If anyone can say Bible is not important, then we have lost all base for reference as to what is right and wrong?
In short, you guys want to "excommunicate" him? I stand with all your decisions. 2 Days of opinions then we decide.
IF Bible is not important, why would Jesus died on the Cross for us?
Yes, but I am jelly aka jealous with people who can commit big sins while our sins and them are same. Imagine you have brother in your family. You always be good in your family and your brother takes drugs and your father still willing to go jail coz of your brother. what do you feel?
Do you think this story in the Bible somehow fits in like above?
Luke 15:
25“Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’
28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’
How long have you been working here? Learn the road names around your place, makes it easier when you're trying to locate a shop or a restaurant, instead of using waze all the time, I use waze when I'm unfamiliar of the location but sometimes it's quite stupid as well.
Almost 5 years. I know the familiar places like Sunway, SS2, SS3, Taman Megah, TTDI, Mont Kiara, Bangsar, Mid Valley, Klang Valley, etc...
But Malaysian road names really sooo long la.
QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 31 2015, 11:59 PM)
Who trolling? Got gangnam style fried rice in petaling street. u wanna date with me der clown? dunno why I always lost money like that liao.. from now I should pray before take out my money liao. 2 weeks annual leave? u troll? my annual leave is only 12 days max
Isn't Gangnam a song by that PSY? I know Chinese fried rice la. WTH is Gangnam fried rice? You are really pulling my leg, aren't you?
Sorry, I don't date Clowns.
I don't work full time la. I'm on freelance. I can even have 200 days off if I want to.
Do you think this story in the Bible somehow fits in like above?
Luke 15:
25“Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’
28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’
Oh, The Prodigal Son parable. The father loves both sons nevertheless but the older son only wanted his father's inheritance.
Do you think this story in the Bible somehow fits in like above?
Luke 15:
25“Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’
28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’
no wonder nice guys always lose everything liao to bad boys.so should learn become bad boys in young age then apologize in old age liao. so if good guys who haven't known Jesus being killed by bad boys who in old age believe in Christ. so who will be in heaven?
Oh, The Prodigal Son parable. The father loves both sons nevertheless but the older son only wanted his father's inheritance.
nope. you are wrong. The older son wanna justice. The father has given fair share of inheritance and older son didn't protest. However when younger son came he gave dancing and a goat while older son doesn't get anything.
Oh, The Prodigal Son parable. The father loves both sons nevertheless but the older son only wanted his father's inheritance.
Actually it was the younger son who wanted that. In those days custom, asking your father for inheritance while he is still alive is like asking him to go DIE immediately. It's an insult and yet this Father came running to Him while he came back with the intention to be hired as a servant so that he has food for his stomach.
Terrible right? And Yet the Father loves him.
The older Brother on the other hand "seems" to be faithful and yet complained in the end.
nope. you are wrong. The older son wanna justice. The father has given fair share of inheritance and older son didn't protest. However when younger son came he gave dancing and a goat while older son doesn't get anything.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 1 2015, 12:13 AM)
Actually it was the younger son who wanted that. In those days custom, asking your father for inheritance while he is still alive is like asking him to go DIE immediately. It's an insult and yet this Father came running to Him while he came back with the intention to be hired as a servant so that he has food for his stomach.
Terrible right? And Yet the Father loves him.
The older Brother on the other hand "seems" to be faithful and yet complained in the end.
Almost 5 years. I know the familiar places like Sunway, SS2, SS3, Taman Megah, TTDI, Mont Kiara, Bangsar, Mid Valley, Klang Valley, etc...
But Malaysian road names really sooo long la. Isn't Gangnam a song by that PSY? I know Chinese fried rice la. WTH is Gangnam fried rice? You are really pulling my leg, aren't you?
Sorry, I don't date Clowns.
I don't work full time la. I'm on freelance. I can even have 200 days off if I want to.
so how many days a week you work? do you have your own company? are you paying tax and have medical benefits? Just try la at petaling street got one restaurant full aircon always filled by some students. The gang nam style rice is excellent and delicious. they also have kung pow pork rice etc..only rm7 last time I ate.
Romans 16:17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
Matthew 18:17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. And yet I also struggle in my heart to show him Grace, as our Heavenly Father showed us Grace. With the hope that he'll repent.
He seem stubborn and adamant when He said the few things are not negotiable.
1. Bible & Context is not important. 2. If the HS tells Him to "sin" like Bribe or Kill, He will still consider it.
Now we all know this is cult like, it's not in the Bible. If anyone can say Bible is not important, then we have lost all base for reference as to what is right and wrong?
In short, you guys want to "excommunicate" him? I stand with all your decisions. 2 Days of opinions then we decide.
my opinion on him, if i can make him stop spreading all this lies by a peaceful ways i would do it or else he out of reach meaning no hope already
so how many days a week you work? do you have your own company? are you paying tax and have medical benefits? Just try la at petaling street got one restaurant full aircon always filled by some students. The gang nam style rice is excellent and delicious. they also have kung pow pork rice etc..only rm7 last time I ate.
5 days. No, I don't. No, I don't feel like it. JK. I pay tax. Sigh.
I pay my own medicals first before my company reimburse me.
Is this the one with dirty kitchen? EEEewww....I'll pass.
no wonder nice guys always lose everything liao to bad boys.so should learn become bad boys in young age then apologize in old age liao. so if good guys who haven't known Jesus being killed by bad boys who in old age believe in Christ. so who will be in heaven?
QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Feb 1 2015, 12:13 AM)
nope. you are wrong. The older son wanna justice. The father has given fair share of inheritance and older son didn't protest. However when younger son came he gave dancing and a goat while older son doesn't get anything.
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 1 2015, 12:15 AM)
Moral of the story is:
A lot of people has this wrong idea about God. They think God is out to get them, to punish them for their wrong. And that they have to earn their way into the Father's house by "never being disobedience"
Actually God is just waiting for us to come Home, so that he can feed us and bring us out of our circumstances. All that the father has is already ours. We don't have to earn for it through obedience as some Church teaches that obedience brings answer prayer or blessings.
Don't believe me? Read the parable in Luke 15 until it gets to your spirit.
Luke 15:31“ ‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 1 2015, 12:23 AM
Actually it was the younger son who wanted that. In those days custom, asking your father for inheritance while he is still alive is like asking him to go DIE immediately. It's an insult and yet this Father came running to Him while he came back with the intention to be hired as a servant so that he has food for his stomach.
Terrible right? And Yet the Father loves him.
The older Brother on the other hand "seems" to be faithful and yet complained in the end.
That's how Jesus treat us too even though we are so sinful. He still loves us.
Almost 5 years. I know the familiar places like Sunway, SS2, SS3, Taman Megah, TTDI, Mont Kiara, Bangsar, Mid Valley, Klang Valley, etc...
But Malaysian road names really sooo long la. Isn't Gangnam a song by that PSY? I know Chinese fried rice la. WTH is Gangnam fried rice? You are really pulling my leg, aren't you?
Sorry, I don't date Clowns.
I don't work full time la. I'm on freelance. I can even have 200 days off if I want to.
you should try Subang Jaya street foods the cendol and rojak there is superb long queue everyday but i forget which sections already SS 17 or 19 I can't remember
no place to sit one you can either stand up and eat or sit on the road shoulder and just eat
King Solomon himself has 100 wives liao and cannot tackle one girl he loves most. Should I follow his words?
He stopped following God then. He too asked God for wisdom when he first sat on the throne.
He wrote Songs of Songs too, they're filled with love songs and poems.
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 1 2015, 12:07 AM)
Almost 5 years. I know the familiar places like Sunway, SS2, SS3, Taman Megah, TTDI, Mont Kiara, Bangsar, Mid Valley, Klang Valley, etc...
But Malaysian road names really sooo long la.
Wow, that long? That's not too bad. They're mostly named after historical people and former sultans in Malaysia so most of them have really long names.
5 days. No, I don't. No, I don't feel like it. JK. I pay tax. Sigh.
I pay my own medicals first before my company reimburse me.
Is this the one with dirty kitchen? EEEewww....I'll pass.
dirty kitchen? it is a good restaurant my friend. how comes it dirty? 5 days a week freelance meh? how many hrs a day u work? how di you get job as freelance?
This post has been edited by leonhart88: Feb 1 2015, 12:27 AM
A lot of people has this wrong idea about God. They think God is out to get them, to punish them for their wrong. And that they have to earn their way into the Father's house by "never being disobedience"
Actually God is just waiting for us to come Home, so that he can feed us and bring us out of our circumstances. All that the father has is already ours. We don't have to earn for it through obedience as some Church teaches that obedience brings answer prayer or blessings.
Don't believe me? Read the parable in Luke 15 until it gets to your spirit.
Luke 15:31“ ‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours.
Moral of story: If someone is weak, he will go to father. if he is strong, he will not look for his father liao. So if father loves the son, he wants his son to try being weak. so moral story, if you are weak means father wants you be close to him I am weak now means father love me and wanna me close to him.
He stopped following God then. He too asked God for wisdom when he first sat on the throne.
He wrote Songs of Songs too, they're filled with love songs and poems. Wow, that long? That's not too bad. They're mostly named after historical people and former sultans in Malaysia so most of them have really long names.
Romans 16:17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
Matthew 18:17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. And yet I also struggle in my heart to show him Grace, as our Heavenly Father showed us Grace. With the hope that he'll repent.
He seem stubborn and adamant when He said the few things are not negotiable.
1. Bible & Context is not important. 2. If the HS tells Him to "sin" like Bribe or Kill, He will still consider it.
Now we all know this is cult like, it's not in the Bible. If anyone can say Bible is not important, then we have lost all base for reference as to what is right and wrong?
In short, you guys want to "excommunicate" him? I stand with all your decisions. 2 Days of opinions then we decide.
This is a public forum and anyone can post here. Like I said earlier, his posts can be justifiably deleted if he post here. Especially if it is disruptive and nonsensical.
So I don't think we need to do anything about him. He seems to crave the attention and reaction his posts elicit. Just let him be and he will eventually fade away.
This is a public forum and anyone can post here. Like I said earlier, his posts can be justifiably deleted if he post here. Especially if it is disruptive and nonsensical.
So I don't think we need to do anything about him. He seems to crave the attention and reaction his posts elicit. Just let him be and he will eventually fade away.
i don't object of him posted as long he did it in a good faith not like insulting other and keep on with your nonsense theories also keep atking other churches way of teaching, this is too much..........if i were to say something bad about your church, wouldn't you be angry too? i felt the same way. So deleting his post is what i can do when he posted something that is not right or insulting
you should try Subang Jaya street foods the cendol and rojak there is superb long queue everyday but i forget which sections already SS 17 or 19 I can't remember
no place to sit one you can either stand up and eat or sit on the road shoulder and just eat
Aww, I don't like eating while standing.
Sit on the road shoulder? That's so weird. I'm not a beggar.
QUOTE(Carlo J @ Feb 1 2015, 12:26 AM)
He stopped following God then. He too asked God for wisdom when he first sat on the throne.
He wrote Songs of Songs too, they're filled with love songs and poems. Wow, that long? That's not too bad. They're mostly named after historical people and former sultans in Malaysia so most of them have really long names.
How come the Sultans have long names?
QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Feb 1 2015, 12:26 AM)
dirty kitchen? it is a good restaurant my friend. how comes it dirty? 5 days a week freelance meh? how many hrs a day u work? how di you get job as freelance?
I think in Malaysia, the dirtier the kitchen, the tastier the food right? Eeeeewwww....
Technically, I start work from 10am - 6pm, but I don't necessarily work according to schedule. lel.
Freelance mah, I do not go to office. I work from home.
It depends on the projects. I used to work for a civil engineering firm in Germany.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 1 2015, 12:31 AM)
Okay noted Tina & luffy, you've given your opinion.
The purpose of this is to not to spite him or anything like this but hopefully He'll come back to his senses.
I believe there is wisdom in the word of God.
Going to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz now.
All of you, Go to Church in the morning/evening ok?
Luckily some churches start late in the morning.
QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Feb 1 2015, 12:34 AM)
you love me or not?
Do you even know what love is? Don't you have a gf already? I'm not your playmate.
Sit on the road shoulder? That's so weird. I'm not a beggar. How come the Sultans have long names? I think in Malaysia, the dirtier the kitchen, the tastier the food right? Eeeeewwww....
Technically, I start work from 10am - 6pm, but I don't necessarily work according to schedule. lel.
Freelance mah, I do not go to office. I work from home.
It depends on the projects. I used to work for a civil engineering firm in Germany. Luckily some churches start late in the morning.
Eating while standing is not all that bad if the food's really good.
Sit on the road shoulder? That's so weird. I'm not a beggar. How come the Sultans have long names? I think in Malaysia, the dirtier the kitchen, the tastier the food right? Eeeeewwww....
Technically, I start work from 10am - 6pm, but I don't necessarily work according to schedule. lel.
Freelance mah, I do not go to office. I work from home.
It depends on the projects. I used to work for a civil engineering firm in Germany. Luckily some churches start late in the morning.
Do you even know what love is? Don't you have a gf already? I'm not your playmate.
my church got 6 shifts from 8.30am until 8.30pm liao. usually freelance got high pay because sometimes you will be jobless? I wanna work like that liao got freedom. can work at 10am and at home somemore. good you got discipline while you work at home. I will browse /k and fb if work at home
Sit on the road shoulder? That's so weird. I'm not a beggar. How come the Sultans have long names? I think in Malaysia, the dirtier the kitchen, the tastier the food right? Eeeeewwww....
Technically, I start work from 10am - 6pm, but I don't necessarily work according to schedule. lel.
Freelance mah, I do not go to office. I work from home.
It depends on the projects. I used to work for a civil engineering firm in Germany. Luckily some churches start late in the morning.
Do you even know what love is? Don't you have a gf already? I'm not your playmate.
the love like our father loves us la..the love without asking and taking back.
This post has been edited by leonhart88: Feb 1 2015, 01:21 AM
my church got 6 shifts from 8.30am until 8.30pm liao. usually freelance got high pay because sometimes you will be jobless? I wanna work like that liao got freedom. can work at 10am and at home somemore. good you got discipline while you work at home. I will browse /k and fb if work at home
Yeah, I do get paid a lot. Jobless? hahaha..I just turned down a civil engineer job offer from China last year.
I don't browse lowyat and fb during work. Too distracting, plus I don't update my fb every 5 seconds.
so tired, half day out shopping then by noon started cleaning my house exterior walls so much algae really hate it
just delegate it to indon labour la..we must focus on more important things. best pastors do not care about cleaning the churches but to prepare his sermon 1 month before with his team. Best CEO does not clean the offices but focus on the tasks that he cannot delegate
just delegate it to indon labour la..we must focus on more important things. best pastors do not care about cleaning the churches but to prepare his sermon 1 month before with his team. Best CEO does not clean the offices but focus on the tasks that he cannot delegate
i am not a rich guy, i am just a normal income worker salary just about 2k per month please do not mistaken me for Tina, to pass on this painting thing to indon labour i did think of it too but i cannot afford it
Today still the same response, I'm suspecting he's gay.
QUOTE(Carlo J @ Feb 1 2015, 01:47 AM)
Yeah, it's late.
Maybe he's waiting for you to make your move hahaha
QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Feb 1 2015, 09:48 AM)
maybe it's me
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 1 2015, 03:48 PM)
Good on ya. Are you sure you can reach 30 min from the airport, Phnom Penh is quite traffic jam.
Err not sure if they have Bak Kut Teh. They do like roast pork though. They got lots of goodie food (not sure suit to your taste). I love their rice...good quality. However, be forewarn, anything other than restaurants, make sure you got iron stomach. I got very weak stomach so if I ended up eating at one of their stalls, I would surely kena diarrhea. After that I preferred to eat at their restaurants.
Also if you know a local cambodian, be best to bring one as a guide...when they know you r a foreigner, sure charge you higher one in USD.
Yeah I really wanna avoid valentine's day. Thinking of staying home watch TV.
Wah 30s year old people in your CG, are senior spriteful people ah? LOL...I feel like an old man...I am a golden club member.
I like cats and dogs...but moment they poop, err... Girls don't like me but female cats are attracted to me...MEOWWWWW....if only i am male cat. The other day I was making a phone call to a friend standing near a shop house, suddenly this female cat came to my legs, started brushing its body in seduction against my leg...meow meow meow...walao....for 10 minutes !
30mins is the estimate without traffic. haha..
Yeah, we are prepared for this. Only me and my dad are susceptible to diarrhea. My mum, and my 2 gfs are Asians, so they are immune. haha..
See my father is Mat Salleh, how to bluff the locals?
Why want to avoid Valentine? Tonight they are showing romantic comedies on Astro.
not 30 year old people, its 30 senior people..
Senior people are not bad, only the movement and maybe thinking process, but their wisdom are golden.
Maybe the cat is asking you for food?
Today I'm making cendol...I'm using coconut milk, sugar palm, the green stuff, some "sago", condensed milk and water. Especially water because the coconut milk is too thick.
i stayed in klang, and i need to take care of my parent too, mom is suffering parkinson dad just got in a accident late last year, broke his left foot still not recover yet no power on his left ankle
i stayed in klang, and i need to take care of my parent too, mom is suffering parkinson dad just got in a accident late last year, broke his left foot still not recover yet no power on his left ankle
oic. it's okay. i am driving. sorry to hear about your mom.
Ya lor...they be hiking the price. Anyways, I not sure what is good to buy in Cambodia..except key chains. Last time I very happy to buy fake timberland t-shirts from the market, come back to Malaysia, not really like to wear...very uncomfortable and the measurements like the sleeve too short.
Your dad and you bring more charcoal pills. It helps.
I so heartbroken...cannot tahan valentines. Maybe i am very sentimental.
Oh i see...30 golden club member. You from Baptish church right? Yeah they are very wise. YOu guys pray a lot? One thing I like about my cg is that they are very prayerful. Last time when I was young, I used to be very shy about praying, when my cg leader ask me to pray for him...i feel nervous, then after prayer, he looked at me strangely, I wonder if I prayed right for him. Come today, I felt my prayer power has improved a lot. At my church, we pray really a lot. I not saying I very good in prayer lah, just so so.
Chendol...nice ! Add some shave ice into the chendol. Then add put some pulut or jagung into the chendol...last time at my school, the chendol guy always add those.
Woohoo yong tau foo...what kind of fish they use for the meat? Ikan tenggiri?
Yeah, I've stocked on charcoal pills. hehe..
Why need to be so heartbroken? Our Lord the Father knows our sorrow. Surely, he has plans for you, it just that its not being reveal yet.
2 Corinthians 1:3–4
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.
Yeah, we prayed. Same with me, haven't prayed before I joined my CG. Quite embarrassing at first, but I've overcame it through God's strength and wisdom.
Praying is just like every other things. We need to practice daily prayers. Don't be shy and be humble to learn, unlike some idiot around here who's still prancing around like a lost little lamb.
No fish. Just tau foo and some vegetables.
Everybody like my cendol. haha...
QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 1 2015, 06:26 PM)
although i'm in my 30's my salary income is just enough i am not good in my studies
Why don't take up some certification? Save some money first. What kind of work do you do?
Today still the same response, I'm suspecting he's gay. 30mins is the estimate without traffic. haha..
Yeah, we are prepared for this. Only me and my dad are susceptible to diarrhea. My mum, and my 2 gfs are Asians, so they are immune. haha..
See my father is Mat Salleh, how to bluff the locals?
Why want to avoid Valentine? Tonight they are showing romantic comedies on Astro.
not 30 year old people, its 30 senior people..
Senior people are not bad, only the movement and maybe thinking process, but their wisdom are golden.
Maybe the cat is asking you for food?
Today I'm making cendol...I'm using coconut milk, sugar palm, the green stuff, some "sago", condensed milk and water. Especially water because the coconut milk is too thick.
My cousins are making some Yong tau foo.
My bad.
Don't judge others lest you be judged. Maybe he's just shy, not all of us can just start a conversation with a complete stranger.
Change more Cambodian money than usd, these people are always preying on tourists with usd.
Yes, they might be seniors but they're full of knowledge and wisdom.
Dayummm, that makes me want to have some right now.
Praying is just like every other things. We need to practice daily prayers. Don't be shy and be humble to learn, unlike some idiot around here who's still prancing around like a lost little lamb.
Yup. Jeremiah 28:11, hope I am correct on the verse. I need to learn patience. I still need time to recover...
Thanks Tina for the verse. Its quite spot on. I am glad that I have Godly rest and in turn I must help others.
So the Baptist are very big on prayer? I thought their scripture knowledge is very good.
LoL...you mean someone? Dun worry about him, he is harmless.
Oh I thought you were making yong tau foo...last time i help my family to make yong tau foo at home, scoop meat from tenggiri fish and then fill them in the lady fingers, foo chuk, tau foo and red chili.
Not bad..tina chendol LoL
Good to hear.
very big? Ok la I guess. Mine still beginner's level.
I know he's harmless.
Ikan tenggiri?
My uncle making us watch some funny Chinese dude movie. I need my coffee now.
anyway how u doing bro? are you still on nutrition course or found another job?
Yeah still in my diploma in nutrition course. Today's lecture is about Hepatitis B and Stomach Bloating (Dr. Judy) and Digestive System (Dr. Tan). Personally I prefer Dr. Judy over Dr. Tan although both also very geng.
Hepatitis B symptoms - feel tired, have a fever, no appetite, have stomach pain or diarrhea. Some people have dark yellow urine, light-colored stools or yellowish eyes and skin. Some people don't have any symptoms!
Those with diarrhea can consider to try BRAT diet.
Evening lesson is about Traditional Chinese Medicine diagnosis on tongue by Susanto. Another great session by him.
So shocked to hear the real story of a dietitian in his 40s died from coronary heart disease and he eats a 'decent' diet, no fried food. Guess what is the root cause? He drinks one large bowl of fruit juice every days for years. Little did he know that those overload sugar from fruits (fructose) can turn into fat which eventually cause heart disease. Drinking fruit juice is not the same as eating fruits (which has fiber). Secondly, fruits are too much 'yin'. In TCM, this imbalances will cause health problem. More info - http://www.medicaldaily.com/fruit-juice-ma...pressure-306891
Yeah still in my diploma in nutrition course. Today's lecture is about Hepatitis B and Stomach Bloating (Dr. Judy) and Digestive System (Dr. Tan). Personally I prefer Dr. Judy over Dr. Tan although both also very geng.
Hepatitis B symptoms - feel tired, have a fever, no appetite, have stomach pain or diarrhea. Some people have dark yellow urine, light-colored stools or yellowish eyes and skin. Some people don't have any symptoms!
Those with diarrhea can consider to try BRAT diet.
Evening lesson is about Traditional Chinese Medicine diagnosis on tongue by Susanto. Another great session by him.
So shocked to hear the real story of a dietitian in his 40s died from coronary heart disease and he eats a 'decent' diet, no fried food. Guess what is the root cause? He drinks one large bowl of fruit juice every days for years. Little did he know that those overload sugar from fruits (fructose) can turn into fat which eventually cause heart disease. Drinking fruit juice is not the same as eating fruits (which has fiber). Secondly, fruits are too much 'yin'. In TCM, this imbalances will cause health problem. More info - http://www.medicaldaily.com/fruit-juice-ma...pressure-306891
so after completing, you're considering working in Chinese medical halls .....?
I think in english is called a mackerel. If i not mistaken it is use for making yong tau foo filling.
Maybe your friend is getting frustrated, then he go and troll troll a bit. Yah I find his views hard to absorb. He always listen to the HS but there is no way HS can contravene God's scripture because Father, Jesus and HS are one sovereign God.
Chinese dude movie? What movie is that? Comedy..haha i want to watch. If you can gimme the name, I go to vcd shop to buy. But hah, this thurs and friday I got teambuilding at PD.
You a coffee person? Afterward cannot sleep. I cannot drink coffee one, afterward my hand all shaking.
Oh mackerel..Yeah we had all types of tau foo, ocra, eggplant, and this tau foo balls that shrunk.
Some meatballs too.
VCD? Who watches VCD? Just download la.
The funny thing is, everybody is laughing except me, bcoz I'm busy reading the English subs, then only I laugh. HAHA..
I'm not a coffee person. I'm trying to stay awake. There's videoconferencing I need to do later at 3am, with my parents.
I'm like, dude, I'm sleeping at 3am man!! Sigh.
Huh, is there such a thing? Coffee can make your hands shake? What happens if you drink Starbucks then?
I'm jeles, so much flexibility, what a nice life you have.
Jeles? You mean jealous? Dude, "Thou shalt not covet."
My life not that rosy as you think.
I got a sister who's going through a divorce. My brother likes to play online gaming, and he's the youngest..Still studying. Probably he'll move out from my parents house soon.
I don't want him to live with me coz he'll bring all kind of girls into the house.
You taking the course from UCSI? I got a friend who graduated from there.
from NHNA Shah Alam. Now third/fourth month. another 6 more months to complete. Need to complete 5 real case study. Now only done one but another 2 health profile.
Oh yah ha...then whats the title? Is it a cantonese show? Yah sometime cantonese jokes only cantonese can catch it. Well yah, perhaps sooner you will catch it.
Wow you need to do conferencing at 3am? You use facetime or skype? Germany is like 9 hours earlier than here, right?
I sometime use my company's conference call to listen to USA townhall speeches and meetings with China/Spore people.
If I drink Starbucks, I cannot sleep, my heart beat very fast and then my hand starts shaking. I am very sensitive to coffee.
Haha, you gotta stay up to 3am. Maybe watch some football. Yesterday Man Utd beat Leceister City 3-1....wohoo.
Before you cook it, the tau foo is big and round, but there's nothing inside it. Its just hollow space. Kinda like a donkey.
"Justice my foot."
skype. 7 hours different.
Wow, what bizarre condition is this? Why don't you see a doctor?
Here's a fun fact that I didn't know of.
1. Every state in Malaysia have different kind of cendol. Cool..
Chinese herb distributor or health consultant more likely.
Yeah, it's a growing interest. TCM. So more likely own business?
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 1 2015, 11:05 PM)
Jeles? You mean jealous? Dude, "Thou shalt not covet."
My life not that rosy as you think.
I got a sister who's going through a divorce. My brother likes to play online gaming, and he's the youngest..Still studying. Probably he'll move out from my parents house soon.
I don't want him to live with me coz he'll bring all kind of girls into the house.
jeles = /k/ language.
lol, covet? No I don't want your job. Honesty it doesn't bother me who is rich or poor. I've come to respect everybody have their portion in life.
No I mean the flexibility, work from home. So much less stress. That's what I mean. How old is your sis? Married to Caucasian?
i have 1 word to describe this donkey action for telling what to do with my parent? who is he to tell me what to do with them? ask him to shut up his bloody mouth before i get real rage and reported every post he make there even it cost me my account in LYN.
I heard Stephen ran into many troubles with the HK movie industry. Reason being he demands hollywod treatment.
Wow, must be a prima donna.
QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 2 2015, 12:56 AM)
i have 1 word to describe this donkey action for telling what to do with my parent? who is he to tell me what to do with them? ask him to shut up his bloody mouth before i get real rage and reported every post he make there even it cost me my account in LYN.
f*** IT!!!
Wow, I've never seen you so angry dude. Das Esel must have been really pissed you off so badly.
My parents basically want me to return home for 2 reasons:-
1. To babysit my brother because they are going to work in China for 2 years. Sigh. 2. My Lutheran church found a suitor for me. He's from St. Matthews Lutheran Church, San Francisco. Sigh.
What should I do guys? Malaysia is like my second home. Wait, it is my second home. lol.
My parents basically want me to return home for 2 reasons:-
1. To babysit my brother because they are going to work in China for 2 years. Sigh. 2. My Lutheran church found a suitor for me. He's from St. Matthews Lutheran Church, San Francisco. Sigh.
What should I do guys? Malaysia is like my second home. Wait, it is my second home. lol.
Ultimately you have to decide whats best for yourself. Since your family needs you to be in China, that seems to be your direction.
Don't worry, we at LYN will forever be your friend in Christ. There is no time or distance that will separate your friends in Malaysia and wherever you are.
You have to decide, if you want to find a suitor here, you will ultimately hurt his feelings because one day you have to leave Malaysia. The best suitor is where your family wants you to follow them.
I'll sure do. Only my parents are working in China. My brother will be in Germany to continue his studies, that mean I have to go back to Germany. Don't feel like babysitting him for 2 years because he's an adult. My sister? She staying in Hamburg, that's 6 hours from where my parents houses are. Besides she need to take care of her kids.
So that leave me.
I dont agree with the bold part because since young, I have listened to my parents. I want to be a fashion designer, they made me do civil engineering.
He needs to study in Germany. I'll sure do. Only my parents are working in China. My brother will be in Germany to continue his studies, that mean I have to go back to Germany. Don't feel like babysitting him for 2 years because he's an adult. My sister? She staying in Hamburg, that's 6 hours from where my parents houses are. Besides she need to take care of her kids.
So that leave me.
I dont agree with the bold part because since young, I have listened to my parents. I want to be a fashion designer, they made me do civil engineering.
i have 1 word to describe this donkey action for telling what to do with my parent? who is he to tell me what to do with them? ask him to shut up his bloody mouth before i get real rage and reported every post he make there even it cost me my account in LYN.
f*** IT!!!
Cool down Bro, that is why I brought up
Romans 16:17. In a way it's to excommunicate him.
This is the principal to follow when you have such people causing problem for the Church. We are a body of Christ after all, living stones of a small Church.
We tried to advise him in vain, after countless time, he's still a block head. I've also tried to give him chance but seem to lagi "sombong". So be it!
EXCOMMUNICATE!
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 2 2015, 02:32 PM
This is the principal to follow when you have such people causing problem for the Church. We are a body of Christ after all, living stones of a small Church.
We tried to advise him in vain, after countless time, he's still a block head. I've also tried to give him chance but seem to lagi "sombong". So be it!
Basically, I would suggest these 3 options to my parents:-
Option No.1
I would return home and work in Germany for 2 years, "babysit" him and make him go to church. haha..
Option No.2
Since he dislikes to stay with relatives in Germany, he can come to Malaysia to study and stay with me, that mean I have to move out from my cousin's place. We will stay at my own condo. And he need to go to church. haha...
Option No. 3
He have to live independently and learn to how to survive, ie, cook, cleaning, etc. My sister or my relatives will check on him during the weekend.
It might work but the fool is a rascal. Yeah, he's quite immature.
Basically, I would suggest these 3 options to my parents:-
Option No.1 I would return home and work in Germany for 2 years, "babysit" him and make him go to church. haha..
Option No.2 Since he dislikes to stay with relatives in Germany, he can come to Malaysia to study and stay with me, that mean I have to move out from my cousin's place. We will stay at my own condo. And he need to go to church. haha...
Option No. 3 He have to live independently and learn to how to survive, ie, cook, cleaning, etc. My sister or my relatives will check on him during the weekend.
Personally, I dislike Option No.3 because then he will have too much freedom, he will have parties, invite all those skimpy dressed girls over...etc..
Looks like Option no.2 is workable.
Then it would be more costly for you already, Stay in boarding school is not easy you know Boarding school has a very strict discipline, like you are to switch off your light after certain hours at night and weekends u have only 1 day off
This post has been edited by De_Luffy: Feb 2 2015, 10:28 PM
This is the principal to follow when you have such people causing problem for the Church. We are a body of Christ after all, living stones of a small Church.
We tried to advise him in vain, after countless time, he's still a block head. I've also tried to give him chance but seem to lagi "sombong". So be it!
EXCOMMUNICATE!
Why are we reacting to what DE post in his own thread?
We should not even be bothered to visit it much read less what he write there.
I suggest we just ignore him and it will be all right.
As it is his thread has dropped off the first page already.
This post has been edited by yaokb: Feb 2 2015, 05:33 PM
Err no...sorry if I made you misunderstand what I said. I don't mean you disagree with God's plan. I mean, you disagree to go to Germany to take care of your brother.
I am sure your parents would support whatever decision you make. Hmm I thought Germans are ingrain with the military discipline spirit. Your brother even though at 16 yo should be able to be independent.
Cheer up Tina. Your cambodia trip is round the corner. Just tell your parents what you feel, if you don't feel like going back, they will understand.
OIC. Well most Germans are. Not my brother though. He can be independent but he's lazy to do house chores.
QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 2 2015, 05:19 PM)
Then it would be more costly for you already, Stay in boarding school is not easy you know Boarding school has a very strict discipline, like you are to switch off your light after certain hours at night and weekends u have only 1 day off
Nah, my parents rather pay a babysitter to do it. Which got me thinking...He can enroll for Bundeswehr University in Munich, and Helmut Schmidt University in Hamburg, 2 top military school. LEL.
Send him to boarding school, no chance of parties haha
No worries, let him grow by himself, he will somehow learn to be independent n responsible. I got a friend who went by his own at 16 to Singapore to take up the Asean scholarship. Today, he is working in China by himself.
Boys will be rebellious if they have an elder sister looking over them.
It takes a thief to know one.
I was rebellious too.
I need him to go to church and at the same time I need to watch over him, I can't help being an elder sister.
This post has been edited by tinarhian: Feb 3 2015, 12:37 AM
Send him to boarding school, no chance of parties haha
No worries, let him grow by himself, he will somehow learn to be independent n responsible. I got a friend who went by his own at 16 to Singapore to take up the Asean scholarship. Today, he is working in China by himself.
Boys will be rebellious if they have an elder sister looking over them.
Agree boarding school build character and discipline
The basic thesis ... which presents the Trinity as a mystery of salvation’ is, ‘The “economic” Trinity is the “immanent” Trinity and the “immanent” Trinity is the “economic” Trinity’. (Karl Rahner)
The economic Trinity refers to God’s action and presence in the economy of salvation (‘oikonomia’,οίκονομία), or God ad nos (‘God-for-us’), whilst the immanent Trinity refers to the mysterious existence together of the three divine persons in their eternal life, or God’s life in se (‘theologia’, θεολογία).
The economy of God reveals the Triune God and depends on the Triune God. whew!
dunno man. sometime watch a movie...reminds me of her. Yesterday I watch Girl Interrupted, then suddenly i remember about her.
Have you been through this kind of thing? Man, love sucks...I always wonder why God created man and woman to love one another. When things work out, its wonderful, but when things fail...the pain is 3 times the enjoyment you felt. Worst, its longer period.
I forgot to mention, don't watch movies that reminds you of her. There are so many amazing movies that came out last year, watch those. Fury, Interstellar, Gone Girl, The Grand Budapest Hotel.
Yeah, I've been through 3 years ago, it was really insane.
Love doesn't suck, love is complicated. Love doesn't make sense. You can't logic your way into or out of it. Love is totally nonsensical. But we have to keep doing it, or else we're lost and love is dead and humanity should just pack it in. Because love is the best thing we do.
I understand that we need to put God in center of life. But for me, i asking myself, am I chasing something that not exist? am I just sentimental and my requirements are unrealistic?
For me, to marry I have to have chemistry with the girl of my dreams...I want to be in cloud nine, yah, whenever we have differences we have to discuss and solve it, if we have arguments, both of us become even closer.
However, nowadyas I face world of realism. Is it true to marry someone, you don't have to feel chemistry for her? Just marry like that ah? Then slowly hope the chemistry to build up? I find always a mismatch. The girl I like, she don't like me.
Always like this, everytime i get into a rship, I like the girl but the girl slowly feeling disatisfied of me until break up due to incompatibility.
Sometimes, you should stop chasing. Let it come to you.
Chemistry is important, don't marry when you have doubts about it.
But, what do I know, I don't have that much of experience.
Yes I stopped chasing then I waited 9 years for the next to come. I was so excited I thought she was the one, but she didn't think I was the one for her. So naturally she dumped me.
I feel a natural challenge to my faith. I have to trust in God no question of that. If Abraham can trust God for 80 years before Sarai can bear his child, I have to do the same.
Ya know, it ain't easy...its very challenging. We got to wait upon the Lord. I can say I am only human, I suffered many failures upon failures..the light at end of tunnel still not showing.
Well, at least you loved and lost, than not tried at all.
All of us have challenges in our faith, we should trust God no matter what happens.
Yes, just continue to wait upon the Lord, we are still human, we make mistakes. The light will be showing soon. Just hang in there.
If watching over him and too much control, he may become more rebellious and not listen.
Let him fly like an eagle and find his own wings?
We are thinking of letting him stay with our relatives. The one that he dislikes the most. hahaha...
That way, he'll learn to respect others.
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 3 2015, 09:03 AM)
Well boys will be boys.
Slowly encourage him and be supportive. Do pray for his growth. Course of time he will grow and mature.
Am sure your parents will work something out for both u and ur brother.
Boys will always be boys. This time my parents will support me, because I have given up so much of time for family.
Why do you think I went away to Malaysia? LEL.
QUOTE(Carlo J @ Feb 3 2015, 11:56 AM)
Do something else to take your mind off her. There are plenty of good movies that have been released. Download and watch them. The stuff you're accusing your brother of seems like they've happened before.
You can't force him to go to church if he doesn't want to, it doesn't work that way.
Send him to boarding school seems like the best option so far if you want to avoid him from committing debauchery.
Of course it happened before. Boys will always be boys.
1. My Victoria Secret catalog are always missing. 2. I would noticed that he locked his bedroom door after 10pm. 3. The rest are too explicit to be listed here.
I know my brother won't like it when family members are not around him, he just wouldn't say "I love you" or "Thanks for taking care of me" in front of everyone but he'll do things for the family.
Yeah tell them that you can't always be there for him forever, he got to learn to be independent. I remember when I first left to Australia to study at 17, I was very happy, first time enjoy fruits of freedom. I learn many things on my own, like cleaning house, cooking and shopping for groceries.
You went to Malaysia to be independent, LoL.
how come you got Vic Secret catalogue?
Throw the catalogues away lah...then get those National Geographic magazines with mummy corpse pictures, in his room, he sure get turn off.
For me, Asian families don't usually say "I love you" to each other...we just show our appreciation by helping our folks.
We are thinking of letting him stay with our relatives. The one that he dislikes the most. hahaha...
That way, he'll learn to respect others. Boys will always be boys. This time my parents will support me, because I have given up so much of time for family.
Why do you think I went away to Malaysia? LEL. Of course it happened before. Boys will always be boys.
1. My Victoria Secret catalog are always missing. 2. I would noticed that he locked his bedroom door after 10pm. 3. The rest are too explicit to be listed here.
I know my brother won't like it when family members are not around him, he just wouldn't say "I love you" or "Thanks for taking care of me" in front of everyone but he'll do things for the family.
1. Haha, you definitely won't want them back anymore, 2. That's normal for his age, but he's not sleeping. 3. That's fine. Too much details are not good.
Well, he's probably shy to express his feelings for the family, not everyone expresses their feelings the same way.
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 3 2015, 05:24 PM)
Yeah really hopeful. I pray that I don't succumb to sin of doubt and frustration.
God is in control of my destiny !
Yes, that's the spirit, m'boy!
He's in control!
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 3 2015, 05:55 PM)
Yeah but I don't have Asian upbringing. Its only in Malaysia, that I've slowly learning Asian values.
Especially during CNY reunion dinner, everybody will have to wait for the seniors to come and eat first right?
I would sneak in and eat my food first before grandma, haha...Grandma so pissed!
I know she's scolding me. lel. It was during my first year in Malaysia that it had happened.
Then when I received my "Angpow", I immediately opened it in front of grandma and waving the money in front of her.
Yeah, my first CNY was a disaster. Of course now I don't do those silly mistakes coz I learn the custom, lel.
Wow, you're like a rebel!
But, waiting for the elders to eat first is no longer practised in my family, it's 'first come, first serve'
You really did open your angpow and waved the money! I couldn't imagine that happening.
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 3 2015, 06:02 PM)
At first I was thinking, hey grandma only gave me RM20. Then I realized, all the grandchildren received the same amount.
Kinda. Mostly with my cousins. My uncle and aunty are working in Singapore, they only come back during the weekend.
cho tai ti?
Mine a quiet CNY too because grandma passed away last year but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't stop celebrating CNY.
I have finally bought some firecrackers..lel.
I'm the favourite grandson so I get the most
Cho tai ti is big two or Chinese poker.
My condolences to your family..
This post has been edited by Carlo J: Feb 3 2015, 06:30 PM
A question for UW: Some people say Grace Message is a perversion of the Gospel, but what is the grace message they're referring to? What's the difference between a correct teaching and an extreme?
Too much to one side, it's legalism. Too much of the other is liberalism which is bad also
Ya I gotta run to...in office today working alone...foreveralone, haha.
You working already la, your granny should cut your ang pow allowance.
Say you in JB or KL? Since your uncle n auntie work in Spore.
Cho tai ti is a card game.
Both side of my grannies passed away, they were in their 90s...
My father side, I don't recognise most of my cousin children anymroe...anyway most of the uncles n aunties passed away
My mother side, uncles n aunties still around, but we not so united after granny's passing...always dispute who pay the bill for gathering.
I'm in KL.
See, that's what I don't understand about Asian culture. If nobody want to foot the bill, why don't just split the bill and everybody pay?
QUOTE(Carlo J @ Feb 3 2015, 06:27 PM)
1. Haha, you definitely won't want them back anymore, 2. That's normal for his age, but he's not sleeping. 3. That's fine. Too much details are not good.
Well, he's probably shy to express his feelings for the family, not everyone expresses their feelings the same way. Yes, that's the spirit, m'boy!
He's in control! Wow, you're like a rebel!
But, waiting for the elders to eat first is no longer practised in my family, it's 'first come, first serve'
You really did open your angpow and waved the money! I couldn't imagine that happening. I'm the favourite grandson so I get the most
Cho tai ti is big two or Chinese poker.
My condolences to your family..
Well, he's not shy to express his love to his gfs.
I'm a rebel without a cause. LEL.
Yeah, I did. I waved the angpow money in front of grandma and everyone. My mum was so embarrassed.
My dad thought it was hilarious. hehe..
I thought CNY was like Christmas. You opened your present for everyone to see.
Nobody wants to pay, everybody want to save money. I don't think it is an Asian culture.
Err not good idea because sometimes people give different amount of money to different people in Ang Pau. If an uncle gave RM20 per ang pau, how would he feel if another uncle gave RM10 per ang pau, he say he sure wasted money.
Its ok to save money but how often you have family gathering?
Then I like the uncle who give me more money.
On a side note, most of my mum relatives are Buddhist, Taoist, etc.
So one day, my grandma put some cookies and tidbits in front of a deceased family member potrait, which is in a living room.
So here I am, curious about it all, decided to eat some of the cookies which, later I found out, were supposed to be for the deceased..
I put out a fire, when my neighbour was burning some papers outside their house during some Chinese festival.
Yeah, later I found out I was not supposed to do that.
I took my dog for a jogging once, and we passed this Chinese shop right, and at the road junction there's this small chinese idols. So many food leftovers, so my dog ate it..
Not supposed to do that right?
Aside from my cultural shock, I like the Mooncake festival and the colourful chinese dessert. Winter solstice festival?
I took my dog for a jogging once, and we passed this Chinese shop right, and at the road junction there's this small chinese idols. So many food leftovers, so my dog ate it..
Not supposed to do that right?
Aside from my cultural shock, I like the Mooncake festival and the colourful chinese dessert. Winter solstice festival?
winter solstice is tang yuan or we called it glutinous rice ball soup or mochi, rice ball rolled with smashed peanuts and sugar
after this we have chinese lunar new year or spring festival followed by dumpling seasons or summer festival?, which is usually in fall in june
after this come to the mid autumn festival or mooncake festival
Yeah its very common...my family too, mostly buddhist and taoist. I was once a buddhist before I converted. I never had the privaledge of being raised as a christian.
We have every year but it looks like this year it may be uncertain. Its also due to some dispute over something that I can't say here. Anyways, hopefully we have one big gathering this CNY. Countdown to Valentine day coming, sigh...i hate this day...
ROFL...even if I have never encountered chinese culture, I would never take food from any altar.
LoL...the neighbor must be angry with you for putting out the fire.
Yeah I know, my mum specifically told me NOT to eat anything from the altar...but I was curious and I never seen those colourful cookies before, and grandma was busy so I decided to eat one cookie...
My grandma was soo angry. haha...Of course dad was laughing so hard that my mum didn't talk to him for the whole day.
I told my neighbour that, "You're not supposed to do open fire burning..Beside the smoke was entering our house."
It's a sign of the end times. People turning away from God.
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 3 2015, 09:58 PM)
It was 5 years ago.
Yeah problem is nobody is paying the bill so ended up no reunion dinner.
No reunion dinner, that serious?
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 3 2015, 10:18 PM)
I'm in KL.
See, that's what I don't understand about Asian culture. If nobody want to foot the bill, why don't just split the bill and everybody pay? Well, he's not shy to express his love to his gfs.
I'm a rebel without a cause. LEL.
Yeah, I did. I waved the angpow money in front of grandma and everyone. My mum was so embarrassed.
My dad thought it was hilarious. hehe..
I thought CNY was like Christmas. You opened your present for everyone to see.
That's a different kind of love expression when it comes to guys.
Its ok to save money but how often you have family gathering?
Then I like the uncle who give me more money.
On a side note, most of my mum relatives are Buddhist, Taoist, etc.
So one day, my grandma put some cookies and tidbits in front of a deceased family member potrait, which is in a living room.
So here I am, curious about it all, decided to eat some of the cookies which, later I found out, were supposed to be for the deceased..
I put out a fire, when my neighbour was burning some papers outside their house during some Chinese festival.
Yeah, later I found out I was not supposed to do that.
Lol....Maybe I can share some insights here...
Coming from a Buddhist/Taoist family, I can guess why your grandma was angry. Assuming she believed in the continuity of the soul (wherever the deceased is, usually one would believe in heaven, or in a worst case scenario still on Earth as a soul that maybe visits/stays in the home - no one would in their right mind believe that a loved one is in hell), the food offered on the altar can carry a few meanings (the importance of each one over the other can vary based on an individual's own beliefs and perception), forming a combination of:
A form of respect, a form of remembrance, a treat that you would like to share with your loved one (the deceased) - e.g. a wife continuing on with her duties and preparing food for her beloved husband and hopes that he'll be happy wherever he is while enjoying this meal, and a source of food in case the deceased is in need or misses earthly food.
Not sure if others throw it out, but for my family we're quite practical, the food should be consumed while it's still fresh. Just pray/show a sign of respect, probably internalize the happy and positive thoughts of 'Hope you've enjoyed the food and that you're happy, we miss you a lot Do allow us to share the food with the (your) whole family now'. For me, whether the soul is truly existent or not post-death, it can also be seen as a traditional practice of remembering/paying respect to/seeking strength or wisdom from the family's ancestors which is central to Chinese culture.
Now back to why she was angry, there's two possible explanations (i) she is of the belief the food is solely for the ancestors/deceased, or (ii) shown disrespect - the food was for someone and you just 'snatched' it without even asking for permission. Ideally, but as always on hindsight, she should have felt that it's alright, it's just one piece, and I'm sure grandpa (or whoever) would have wanted you to have it anyway, and laugh it off.
This post has been edited by DT1: Feb 4 2015, 02:57 AM
The central thought of Exodus is that Christ is the redemption, salvation, and supply of God’s people, and He is the means for them to worship God and serve God, so that in Christ God’s people may be built up with God together for them to meet, communicate, and dwell mutually. The central thought of Exodus is focused on God’s building, and Christ is everything to God’s people for God’s building.
The purpose of the book of Exodus is to show us that the goal of God’s full salvation is the building up of His dwelling place. The purpose of Exodus is not merely to show us how God rescued His people with a mighty hand and cared for them in a miraculous way throughout their journey in the wilderness; it is to show us that in His full salvation God wants to obtain the building up of His dwelling place, the church.
God’s goal in dealing with His people the way He did in the book of Exodus was so that He may obtain a dwelling place. God’s goal throughout the Bible is His building, and the divine thought in the Bible and in the book of Exodus is that Christ is everything to us and for us so that we may be built up as God’s dwelling place, God’s building.
The direction of all the events and things that take place in Exodus is the building up of the tabernacle (see Exo. 25:8-9; 40:1-2, 34-35). This is the direction of all that God does related to His people, beginning from rescuing them from the world and bringing them to His holy mountain to show them a revelation of Himself.
The building up of the church is the direction of the divine life in all of us. We were redeemed, saved, born again, shepherded by the Lord, enlightened and supplied by Christ, and brought into the desire of God’s heart in the church life so that we may build up the church, the dwelling place of God.
This post has been edited by pehkay: Feb 4 2015, 09:53 AM
A question for UW: Some people say Grace Message is a perversion of the Gospel, but what is the grace message they're referring to? What's the difference between a correct teaching and an extreme?
Too much to one side, it's legalism. Too much of the other is liberalism which is bad also
Wow you know, since this thread is moving so fast, got to tag me properly otherwise I may not see your question.
like this
unknown warrior
Anyway back to your question, this require a lot of explanation, won't do justice with few lines or paragraph. But I'll try.
There is no such thing a grace message, how can it be a perversion when in fact The Gospel is about theGrace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 20:24 (KJV) - But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Grace is the Gospel meaning it's Good News about God's Grace. That we are saved by God's grace and by nones of our works.
The problem with this is that Churches still don't understand that they mix up Works + Grace as evidence that you're saved. Why Because in the scripture the Bible says that those who are born again will not continue to sin. So they take that part as the condition without properly understanding the entire gist of the Bible of HOW transform life comes about which is by the fruit of the spirit.
The word Fruit has very strong emphasize that it means result or reward, Not effort and that is borne by the Father not us. But still some people, they get confuse over this. They think it's an effort. So what happens is that people gets introspective of themselves instead of looking to the Cross as the source of Salvation which IMO is HERESY. Any preaching or teaching to be introspective of within themselves, saying things like search within your heart for whatever reasons is not what the New Testament teaches. It is valid YES under the OT because Salvation back then is performance based. Under the NT, everything MUST go to the Cross, it is Christ's finished work, not our work (not even 1 bit) earn us Salvation.
One thing we need to established is that SIN is SIN. The reason Christ came to save us is because of SIN. The purpose of God's grace is to lead us out of sin, not to remain in it. What happens is that in one extreme end like recently when de1929 quotes all things are permissible meaning to say I can do anything on purpose even if it's sin because God or "HS" will exempt me from it for the furtherment of his kingdom, that is also not what the Bible teaches.
So in summary, We need to agree (wholeheartedly) that Sin is wrong, we're not to purposely jump into it but to continue to seek and have fellowship with God, to understand we don't have to save ourselves, God has done that part, God's grace has basically saved us. Our part is to keep believing in it. When this part is done correctly (believing that we are saved by the cross) the Holy Spirit goes into work, working in our lives so that our life bear fruits. Why people's life is not bearing fruit? Answer is because they're trying to get it through self effort of Obedience to God rather than resting in God by Faith.
The Bible says that when we believe, we are MADE righteous. <-----I can highlight this 9999 times and there will still be Christians who don't get it. Ask any common christians how do you become righteous? And you'll most likely get this answer: BY doing right. Which is wrong under the New Covenant. Some may profess the right answer but at the back of his head, He will still subconsciously agree that by doing right deed or in other words obedience, you become righteous. It is not.
The righteous shall live by Faith.
Sorry if it's not clear, I'm in the process of recovery from cough, flu n fever.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 4 2015, 04:45 PM
Wow you know, since this thread is moving so fast, got to tag me properly otherwise I may not see your question.
like this
unknown warrior
Anyway back to your question, this require a lot of explanation, won't do justice with few lines or paragraph. But I'll try.
There is no such thing a grace message, how can it be a perversion when in fact The Gospel is about theGrace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 20:24 (KJV) - But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Grace is the Gospel meaning it's Good News about God's Grace. That we are saved by God's grace and by nones of our works.
The problem with this is that Churches still don't understand that they mix up Works + Grace as evidence that you're saved. Why Because in the scripture the Bible says that those who are born again will not continue to sin. So they take that part as the condition without properly understanding the entire gist of the Bible of HOW transform life comes about which is by the fruit of the spirit.
The word Fruit has very strong emphasize that it means result or reward, Not effort and that is borne by the Father not us. But still some people, they get confuse over this. They think it's an effort. So what happens is that people gets introspective of themselves instead of looking to the Cross as the source of Salvation which IMO is HERESY. Any preaching or teaching to be introspective of within themselves, saying things like search within your heart for whatever reasons is not what the New Testament teaches. It is valid YES under the OT because Salvation back then is performance based. Under the NT, everything MUST go to the Cross, it is Christ's finished work, not our work (not even 1 bit) earn us Salvation.
One thing we need to established is that SIN is SIN. The reason Christ came to save us is because of SIN. The purpose of God's grace is to lead us out of sin, not to remain in it. What happens is that in one extreme end like recently when de1929 quotes all things are permissible meaning to say I can do anything on purpose even if it's sin because God or "HS" will exempt me from it for the furtherment of his kingdom, that is also not what the Bible teaches.
So in summary, We need to agree (wholeheartedly) that Sin is wrong, we're not to purposely jump into it but to continue to seek and have fellowship with God, to understand we don't have to save ourselves, God has done that part, God's grace has basically saved us. Our part is to keep believing in it. When this part is done correctly (believing that we are saved by the cross) the Holy Spirit goes into work, working in our lives so that our life bear fruits. Why people's life is not bearing fruit? Answer is because they're trying to get it through self effort of Obedience to God rather than resting in God by Faith.
The Bible says that when we believe, we are MADE righteous. <-----I can highlight this 9999 times and there will still be Christians who don't get it. Ask any common christians how do you become righteous? And you'll most likely get this answer: BY doing right. Which is wrong under the New Covenant. Some may profess the right answer but at the back of his head, He will still subconsciously agree that by doing right deed or in other words obedience, you become righteous. It is not.
The righteous shall live by Faith.
Sorry if it's not clear, I'm in the process of recovery from cough, flu n fever.
Yeah must tag de.
You rehat dulu UW, when you're feeling better you can explain more coherent also
Yeah, Selangor has the most dengue cases. The scale is pretty scary.
I think the authority should do something about it.
QUOTE(DT1 @ Feb 4 2015, 02:43 AM)
Lol....Maybe I can share some insights here...
Coming from a Buddhist/Taoist family, I can guess why your grandma was angry. Assuming she believed in the continuity of the soul (wherever the deceased is, usually one would believe in heaven, or in a worst case scenario still on Earth as a soul that maybe visits/stays in the home - no one would in their right mind believe that a loved one is in hell), the food offered on the altar can carry a few meanings (the importance of each one over the other can vary based on an individual's own beliefs and perception), forming a combination of:
A form of respect, a form of remembrance, a treat that you would like to share with your loved one (the deceased) - e.g. a wife continuing on with her duties and preparing food for her beloved husband and hopes that he'll be happy wherever he is while enjoying this meal, and a source of food in case the deceased is in need or misses earthly food.
Not sure if others throw it out, but for my family we're quite practical, the food should be consumed while it's still fresh. Just pray/show a sign of respect, probably internalize the happy and positive thoughts of 'Hope you've enjoyed the food and that you're happy, we miss you a lot Do allow us to share the food with the (your) whole family now'. For me, whether the soul is truly existent or not post-death, it can also be seen as a traditional practice of remembering/paying respect to/seeking strength or wisdom from the family's ancestors which is central to Chinese culture.
Now back to why she was angry, there's two possible explanations (i) she is of the belief the food is solely for the ancestors/deceased, or (ii) shown disrespect - the food was for someone and you just 'snatched' it without even asking for permission. Ideally, but as always on hindsight, she should have felt that it's alright, it's just one piece, and I'm sure grandpa (or whoever) would have wanted you to have it anyway, and laugh it off.
Well, the question that come to mind is, "How the heck does the spirit of the deceased even managed to eat food?"
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 4 2015, 07:44 AM)
Well the food is for their Gods.
Its not as easy as ABC....I am the rebound, it wouldn't be fair for anyone.
Also, its not really easy for me to fall for someone and for that someone to fall for me.
Sigh, it is so easy for you girls to find guys...you all get to pick n choose who you want. All you have to do is to wait there, and guys will come in droves. For us guys, we have to dress up smart, prepare a great sales pitch on the "product" (us)...and hope the girl will want us. We get rejected 10k X times. It doesn't make it any easier to be obedient to God, and search for christian wife to honor God. Sometimes my heart feels like disobeying and search for non christian. My faith is being tested. I pray all night and day for God's plan to be revealed to me.
But for guys, its like for eternity. I always have relationship with girls whom they felt I am not compatible with, but I thought they are right for me.
Yeah, I know you are still on the rebound.
Having a relationship is never going to be easy for everyone but you need to move on and try again right?
Sure, its always easy for the girls, depending on what type of girls you're talking about.
I believed anybody can get dates unless of course you look like Shrek, heck, even the donkey can get laid.
Its easy for guys with lots of money to get a girl too.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 4 2015, 11:48 AM)
Wow you know, since this thread is moving so fast, got to tag me properly otherwise I may not see your question.
like this
unknown warrior
How do you tag anyway?
Get well soon dude.
QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 4 2015, 05:17 PM)
Yeah must tag de.
You rehat dulu UW, when you're feeling better you can explain more coherent also
The central thought of Exodus is that Christ is the redemption, salvation, and supply of God’s people, and He is the means for them to worship God and serve God, so that in Christ God’s people may be built up with God together for them to meet, communicate, and dwell mutually. The central thought of Exodus is focused on God’s building, and Christ is everything to God’s people for God’s building.
The purpose of the book of Exodus is to show us that the goal of God’s full salvation is the building up of His dwelling place. The purpose of Exodus is not merely to show us how God rescued His people with a mighty hand and cared for them in a miraculous way throughout their journey in the wilderness; it is to show us that in His full salvation God wants to obtain the building up of His dwelling place, the church.
God’s goal in dealing with His people the way He did in the book of Exodus was so that He may obtain a dwelling place. God’s goal throughout the Bible is His building, and the divine thought in the Bible and in the book of Exodus is that Christ is everything to us and for us so that we may be built up as God’s dwelling place, God’s building.
The direction of all the events and things that take place in Exodus is the building up of the tabernacle (see Exo. 25:8-9; 40:1-2, 34-35). This is the direction of all that God does related to His people, beginning from rescuing them from the world and bringing them to His holy mountain to show them a revelation of Himself.
The building up of the church is the direction of the divine life in all of us. We were redeemed, saved, born again, shepherded by the Lord, enlightened and supplied by Christ, and brought into the desire of God’s heart in the church life so that we may build up the church, the dwelling place of God.
So the Book of Exodus tells us of how God delivered the Jewish people out of Egyptians slavery and the long journey into the Promised Land. It also explained the foundation of the Torah laws to the Jewish people.
It also tells us how God fulfilled his promise to Abraham. God revealed The Ten Commandments to Moses. The Jewish people complained about not enough food.
Aaron and the Israelite created idols - the golden calf.
So far I haven't finish reading Exodus. Will try to finish this month though.
Yeah that is probably what i need to do. To get on, but its never easy. Feel like carrying some big burden of pain.
I think for most girls, its easy. All you have to do is to dress nice and have a nice character, guys will be come after.
Heck even Shrek is married. I got to really suck since I can't do a better job than Shrek. And Don't get started about Donkey, he has a dragon girlfriend.
Of course, its easier for guys to get girls when they have money...but is that what they want, the girl likes them for their money? I suppose charisma and confidence are important too.
I know its not easy for anybody dude, including me. I only started dating last month. LEL.
It was a disaster too.
But I'm trying.
IDK how my suitor is. Only meeting him in June.
Well, there you go. You got to have charisma n confidence too.
Well, the question that come to mind is, "How the heck does the spirit of the deceased even managed to eat food?"
I don't know, and I wouldn't claim to know, as I've never really bothered to find out via scholarly sources for any explanations.
But from my own viewpoint, it would be offering something that you can attach an emotional bond to, that would bring out your innermost kindness and love.
A common tool would then be food... We all enjoy food, housewives lovingly impart their time and energy to cook nutritious food for the family.
So in a way you prepare something you can assign feelings of sharing, love, kindness, care, and devotion, and then willingly offer it to your loved one (the deceased). See, the tool here is just a tool, could be food, flowers, money, whatever, but it is just a tool that helps bring out those emotions and feelings mentioned earlier.
Now is that sort of emotional offering needed? We can either say yes or no, there's never going to be a right answer. Assuming spirits are real, then yes maybe it's a family obligation. If they're not real, then, can take it as a culture and traditional practice of respecting the elder (pretty sure studies on religiouslike practices and their positive effects on mental wellbeing can be found) . But of course you can also adopt the view that these are all illogical nonsense, for which you could be right or dead wrong too, no one knows. :-)
I don't know, and I wouldn't claim to know, as I've never really bothered to find out via scholarly sources for any explanations.
But from my own viewpoint, it would be offering something that you can attach an emotional bond to, that would bring out your innermost kindness and love.
A common tool would then be food... We all enjoy food, housewives lovingly impart their time and energy to cook nutritious food for the family.
So in a way you prepare something you can assign feelings of sharing, love, kindness, care, and devotion, and then willingly offer it to your loved one (the deceased). See, the tool here is just a tool, could be food, flowers, money, whatever, but it is just a tool that helps bring out those emotions and feelings mentioned earlier.
Now is that sort of emotional offering needed? We can either say yes or no, there's never going to be a right answer. Assuming spirits are real, then yes maybe it's a family obligation. If they're not real, then, can take it as a culture and traditional practice of respecting the elder (pretty sure studies on religiouslike practices and their positive effects on mental wellbeing can be found) . But of course you can also adopt the view that these are all illogical nonsense, for which you could be right or dead wrong too, no one knows. :-)
Hmm it depends on what that statement means. Do you mean, all these are bollocks, or do u mean, I have no idea about it because I've not come across such ideas in my faith.
Oh wait I forgot to answer the key question... That is how the heck does the spirit eat the food. As you could see from my post, I hold the view that it Might not be the food, but rather, the spirit can somehow receive and benefit from your love and kindness, a form of 'positive energy' perhaps. Similar to how one would pray for goodness and strength, as well as the instances where you pray for someone's well being.
This post has been edited by DT1: Feb 4 2015, 10:34 PM
Hmm it depends on what that statement means. Do you mean, all these are bollocks, or do u mean, I have no idea about it because I've not come across such ideas in my faith.
Oh wait I forgot to answer the key question... That is how the heck does the spirit eat the food. As you could see from my post, I hold the view that it Might not be the food, but rather, the spirit can somehow receive and benefit from your love and kindness, a form of 'positive energy' perhaps. Similar to how one would pray for goodness and strength, as well as the instances where you pray for someone's well being.
It mean I'm a Christian. IDK these things.
Aww, dude I didn't mean to piss you off.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 4 2015, 10:35 PM)
somehow regret show you the bbcode.
I GIVE UP!!! Stupid BB code.
Unknown Warrior
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So the Book of Exodus tells us of how God delivered the Jewish people out of Egyptians slavery and the long journey into the Promised Land. It also explained the foundation of the Torah laws to the Jewish people.
It also tells us how God fulfilled his promise to Abraham. God revealed The Ten Commandments to Moses. The Jewish people complained about not enough food.
Aaron and the Israelite created idols - the golden calf.
So far I haven't finish reading Exodus. Will try to finish this month though.
... A book has pictures and words. The Old Testament is like a picture (worth a thousand words) but you still need the reality or the meaning (the New Testament). The Old Testament uses a lot of figurative language to convey a spiritual reality even-though the events actually happens.
The children of Israel typified [a stamp, pattern or mold applied to someone or something] the church. You and me.
What the children of Israel went through should also be our spiritual experiences corporately today.
As you read the book of Exodus, keep in mind that you are not merely reading words, but looking at pictures. The celebration of the Passover and the smiting of the firstborn by the destroying angel are pictures. While all the firstborn in Egypt were being smitten, the children of Israel were enjoying peace, rest, and safety as they ate the Passover lamb in their houses under the covering of the blood.
Both Pharaoh and the land of Egypt, for example, are pictures. Pharaoh portrays Satan, and Egypt depicts the rich, productive aspect of the world. (The sinful aspect of the world is represented by Sodom.)
We see more pictures in the calling of Moses. When God called Moses, He firstly gave him a vision of a burning bush, a bush that was burning without being consumed (3:2-4). Unable to escape God’s calling, Moses expressed his concern that the children of Israel would not believe him nor hearken to his voice (4:1). Therefore, God told Moses to cast his rod on the ground. When Moses did so, the rod became a serpent. But when Moses took up the serpent by the tail, it became a rod again in his hand (4:2-4). Then the Lord commanded Moses to put his hand into his bosom. When Moses took his hand out of his bosom, it was “leprous as snow” (4:6). At the Lord’s command, he put his hand into his bosom again and took it out, and “it was turned again as his other flesh” (4:7). After showing these signs to Moses, signs that were to be proofs to the children of Israel that the Lord had truly appeared to him, the Lord said, “If they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice,...thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry land” (4:9). This was to be a further sign.
These signs are very meaningful. The bush denotes our natural man. The fact that the bush was burning without being consumed indicates that when God calls us, He does not intend to use our natural man.
The rod represents anything other than God that we rely on. The rod becoming a serpent reveals that anything apart from God that we rely upon is a serpent, the Devil. Thus, if you rely upon your husband or wife, your husband or wife is a “serpent.” The same is true of your education or your bank account. When we obey the Lord to cast down the rod, it becomes a serpent. But God does not want us to cast away the rod forever. At His command, we need to take it up again by the “tail.” We need to grasp our education or bank account by the “tail.”
Moses’ hand becoming leprous is an indication that in our flesh there is nothing good; our flesh is the embodiment of leprosy. If we touch[relied on] ourselves, we become leprous.
Finally, the changing of the water of the Nile into blood signifies that the enjoyment of the world is death.
Enjoy your reading!
This post has been edited by pehkay: Feb 5 2015, 08:39 AM
Hebrews 9:27 (NIV) - Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgement,
There's only 1 Eternal God, there is only 1 of his creation. There's no reincarnation or matters like praying to ancestors. There is none.
The mere act of subscribing to a belief doesn't automatically mean all others are wrong in their beliefs, unless the doctrine to believe in explicitly calls for the explicit invalidation of all others (refrain from such practice is different from explicitly believing that such practices are wrong) :-D There is reality in that there is belief in reincarnation (Buddhists) and (praying/showing respect) to ancestors as with Chinese culture (and of same importance as the continuation and pride of the Male family's name). It's just up to one to choose what to believe in that would be in sync and with and suitable for enhancing their life. And for Chinese culture, it's called culture for a reason, either you adhere to culture, or subscribe to an imported culture and disregard current practices. Not limited to Chinese culture, changes and dilution of culture happen across many cultures too. (Note: not attaching any right or wrong judgement here, just observation).
This post has been edited by DT1: Feb 5 2015, 09:14 AM
The mere act of subscribing to a belief doesn't automatically mean all others are wrong in their beliefs, unless the doctrine to believe in explicitly calls for the explicit invalidation of all others (refrain from such practice is different from explicitly believing that such practices are wrong) :-D There is reality in that there is belief in reincarnation (Buddhists) and (praying/showing respect) to ancestors as with Chinese culture (and of same importance as the continuation and pride of the Male family's name). It's just up to one to choose what to believe in that would be in sync and with and suitable for enhancing their life. And for Chinese culture, it's called culture for a reason, either you adhere to culture, or subscribe to an imported culture and disregard current practices. Not limited to Chinese culture, changes and dilution of culture happen across many cultures too. (Note: not attaching any right or wrong judgement here, just observation).
Bro,
This thread for Christian Fellowship, this is our believes.
If you're looking for Religious Argument it's in RWI. You're welcome to head over there for debate.
This thread for Christian Fellowship, this is our believes.
If you're looking for Religious Argument it's in RWI. You're welcome to head over there for debate.
Wasn't even an argument. Was just highlighting shifts in culture. Anyway noted the unwelcome message, seems like there can be a claim to thread ownership and participation.
This post has been edited by DT1: Feb 5 2015, 09:44 AM
Wasn't even an argument. Was just highlighting shifts in culture. Anyway noted the unwelcome message.
Bro this is Christian Fellowship Thread, we will be talking about Christian believes most of the time. That speaks for itself, our believes is always in conflict with the system of this world and other religious or cultural values.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 5 2015, 09:11 PM
ever since morning till now this page has been dormant............ anyway, 1 tricky question here what do you guys and gals think about Job? How can we modern Christians emulate him?
Thursday blues.
I'm on sick leave, cleaning up one closet in my home that should have been cleaned ages ago, now only I do it.
You talking about Job in the Bible or Steve Job? lol.
I'm on sick leave, cleaning up one closet in my home that should have been cleaned ages ago, now only I do it.
You talking about Job in the Bible or Steve Job? lol.
this is a Christian fellowship thread right why would i be talking about that shitty Apple founder FYI i am not a fan of Apple products, hate it to the most
this is a Christian fellowship thread right why would i be talking about that shitty Apple founder FYI i am not a fan of Apple products, hate it to the most
I don't even get the Android vs Apple fan war. Have no emotional affinity to either one. I just buy what I like. Wouldn't mind to use an Iphone6 though if someone give its to me.
About Job? Now that's one Hombre who knows God enough and long enough not to give up that easily. My Hats off to him. I don't think there will ever be another human in human history that has been tested like that and still win in the end.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 5 2015, 08:56 PM
I don't even get the Android vs Apple fan war. Have no emotional affinity to either one. I just buy what I like. Wouldn't mind to use an Iphone6 though if someone give its to me.
About Job? Now that's one Hombre who knows God enough and long enough not to give up that easily. My Hates off to him. I don't think there will ever be another human in human history that has been tested like that and still win in the end.
to be honest i used to be Nokia fan been using the phone for years before i finally give up on my old Nokia phone just because the symbian phone do not have the clear ram memory feature when my phone memory full, many thing i can't do on my phone take photos whatsapp or even sms which is really annoying
so now i've been using my very first android phone for more than 2 years, although lag but still working, at least i can take pics or chat on whatsapp, and surf the net when i needed to
to be honest i used to be Nokia fan been using the phone for years before i finally give up on my old Nokia phone just because the symbian phone do not have the clear ram memory feature when my phone memory full, many thing i can't do on my phone take photos whatsapp or even sms which is really annoying
so now i've been using my very first android phone for more than 2 years, although lag but still working, at least i can take pics or chat on whatsapp, and surf the net when i needed to
Yeah we just buy what we need. Be good steward of resources given. No need to get into Fanboyism of phone wars. It's pointless to use Phone as Life status.
Yeah we just buy what we need. Be good steward of resources given. No need to get into Fanboyism of phone wars. It's pointless to use Phone as Life status.
well, i do plan to change my phone soon as this phone already more than 2 years exceeded the lifespan already, however no budget so sticking to this old phone for now
well, i do plan to change my phone soon as this phone already more than 2 years exceeded the lifespan already, however no budget so sticking to this old phone for now
Try Xioami, if you're not so particular about brand. The specs are worth the money.
well, i do plan to change my phone soon as this phone already more than 2 years exceeded the lifespan already, however no budget so sticking to this old phone for now
I bought my phones from Harvey Norman because they have 5 years warranty. My Note 2 crashed after the 1 year warranty had expired, so I've learned my lesson and decided to buy extended warranty. hehe...
Wasn't even an argument. Was just highlighting shifts in culture. Anyway noted the unwelcome message, seems like there can be a claim to thread ownership and participation.
Friend, Don't misunderstand.
It's just that we already have enough issues to debate within Christian topics itself and other topics would divert the thread from its original topic.
It's just that we already have enough issues to debate within Christian topics itself and other topics would divert the thread from its original topic.
That's why they shouldn't be introduced here.
Cheers.
I was just telling my story regarding my first hand experience of "Chinese custom" at my grandma house during CNY.
I apologized to my Christian brothers and sisters for my culture shock. hehe..
You trolled me earlier. So you know how to tag. Are you a Christian? Yeah, did your parents object to your change of religion? Did they throw objects at you? Nani? Malaysian sure got a lot of weird language.
I only know nano.
nani kore???? japanese language, we malaYSIAN nowaday are hungover on anime so japanese words out in our talk sometimes
Romans 1:17 - For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed--a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."
Why is it that some days when we wake up, we feel that God is like thousands of miles away? Our Eyes, Our Hearing, Our Feelings tells us by the terrible deeds that we may have committed in the days pass, could have pushed God away. If you feel like somewhat like that, I have a solution from the Bible.
But Let me explain first, why. Everyday there is a spiritual war waged by the weaponry of Satan that tries to fixate our mind that we are still under the Righteous Requirement of the Law. What I mean is this. This enemy makes us think we need to appease God through our actions, deeds, works, obedience..you name it, all that falls under the category of Effort of Man. That is how the Bible term it, works.
In the Old testament, the righteousness of Man was sought. BUT IN the gospel, the righteousness of God himself is revealed as explained in Romans 1:17 above.
The Old Covenant DEMANDS. THOU SHALL NOT! By the effort of Man The New Covenant SUPPLIES. GOD SAYS "I WILL" By the Grace of God.
In the Old when Man wanted their own way, God gave the 10 commandments as a test. In the New God came and gave His Son away as our substitute that the Law DEMANDS when Man could prove no further of himself.
God gave us about 2000 years to understand that we cannot. And yet today many of us still live thinking that we can.
When you read the Old Testament, understand that Man is bankrupt and yet tried to prove himself righteous. Man who is in need to be saved and yet trying to be a Hero. This is indeed the vanity of Man. Understand that when Jesus came, He put the end of the righteous requirement of the Law towards Man. The Bible explains it like this in
Romans 10:4 (KJV) - For Christ is the END of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
It is over dear friends. This need to fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law is OVER! Christ put an END to it as explained in Romans 10:4. END means FINISHED, OVER! NO MORE!
Our New life is no more about deeds/works/obedience/ doings/ etc..but BELIEVING! Even when you wake up feeling lousy, you can choose to believe that God is near you and loves you dearly! When you believe this correctly, the Holy Spirit goes into work affirming your Faith and brings in the manifestation to the confirmation of his word.
When you Believe what God says in the understanding of the New Testament, ALL the righteous requirement of the Law is credited to you! (Romans 8:3-4) Our EVERYDAY life hangs on our believe. This is what it means. The Righteous shall live by Faith. NO more about deeds but about Believe.
Dear Friends.
Believe that God loves you, is near you, you're made righteous in Christ. Your FAITH is the new requirement.
God Bless.
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They even put a "Do not eat" sign near the altar offering. Seriously? It happened because I don't know the custom la.
really? haha.
You don't have to wait 20 years, God can use anyone to reach your uncle. Practically anyone, friends and anything, even the Internet. Father God uses a variety of channels as long as we persistently pray.
Just like the widow who bugged the unrighteous Judge to death. (Luke 18) 1st Parable.
You don't have to wait 20 years, God can use anyone to reach your uncle. Practically anyone, friends and anything, even the Internet. Father God uses a variety of channels as long as we persistently pray.
Just like the widow who bugged the unrighteous Judge to death. (Luke 18) 1st Parable.
The Internet? So how about when he login into his laptop, I put some Bible verses as his desktop wallpaper?
Joined: Apr 2008
From: Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 6 2015, 07:04 AM)
Hey, you edit your post after I went to sleep.
You trolled me earlier. So you know how to tag. Are you a Christian? Yeah, did your parents object to your change of religion? Did they throw objects at you? Nani? Malaysian sure got a lot of weird language.
I only know nano.
She meant 'nani', which is 'what' in the Japanese language.
Just pray about it. Trying to share about Jesus in front of them may cause shock n misunderstanding.
It took me more than a decade, before I slowly warm up to Jesus's message. When i was in my youth, many christians invited me to church but I declined because i was very uncomfortable with it. So I can understand how your Uncle would feel.
Are you a Christian? Yeah, did your parents object to your change of religion? Did they throw objects at you? Nani? Malaysian sure got a lot of weird language.
Yups, I am a believer of Christ since year 2007. My parents did object at first, but not to the point of throwing objects at me.
Hey Bro n Sis in Christ, these days I'm like knocking off zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz so early bcos got to get up equally so early, KL traffic is crazy this coming 2015 CNY.
If I don't leave my home by 6.30AM, Don't think will make it to work.
How are you guys preparing your CNY?
Anyway see you guys in the morning.
SHALOM!
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Was pretty busy last few days, didn't have time to view LYN, 5 pages in 2 days? Wow, you guys are getting out of hand
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 4 2015, 11:15 PM)
But I'm too young to get married. I'm still focusing on my career.
Can't say the same for my friends who are already married with a kid and he's only 23. Another one is 28. It really depends whether God's plan for you is sooner or later.
QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 4 2015, 11:31 PM)
I tried b4...they will listen to me.
10 mths to go? That is quite fast the time will past. I don't think I will find one by then.
Great, use that as your advantage.
Well, I know that, AFAIK, the year had just begun and it's already the 2nd month. Be more optimistic, man!
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 6 2015, 12:40 AM)
I have another issue to bring up.
My uncle is a Buddhist, so how do I convince him to follow Christ? Any ideas?
Does he read?
Well, there's this book you can get for him,
From Buddha to Jesus: An Insider's View of Buddhism & Christianity by Pastor Peter Cioccolanti (a former Buddhist)
It actually explains what Buddhism is all about and all the misconceptions everyone has about Buddhism and how he (Pastor Peter) became a Christian.
Very powerful testimony from various Pastors
"In his well-written and researched book 'From Buddha to Jesus' Steve has placed a valuable witnessing tool in the hands of the local church. I strongly recommend his book and suggest that anyone who comes in contact with Eastern religions should read it and have the information readily available."
Col Stringer (President of ICFM Australia & best-selling Author) “This book has many great insights in it… I would use it for our Bible College students.”
Dr. Wayne Cordeiro (Pastor of 10,000+ member church in Hawaii) Click here to read complete foreword by Dr Wayne Cordeiro
"I wish I had read it sooner....It is so straightforward, so clear and so eminently helpful." Dr Carl Wieland, Director of Creation Ministries International & Editor of Creation Magazine
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"Your book literally hit me right between the eyes... You're absolutely right, modern Evangelism has strayed away from Biblical Evangelism. I found myself having to make a couple corrections. I had gotten away from dealing with the sin issue before leading people to Jesus. It's very plain to me now. I highly recommend that all ministers read this book! Thanks, Steve, for making it so plain." Jim Kaseman (President of AFCM International)
“Upon reading From Buddha to Jesus, we were challenged, felt better equipped with the right information, and in many ways….corrected. We didn’t realize that we had so many misconceptions concerning Buddhism. Nor did we know that there are so many teachings of Buddhism that could actually assist us in presenting to Buddhists their need of Jesus as Savior.” Tony & Patsy Cameneti (Directors of RHEMA Australia, missionaries to Singapore & Italy)
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"A truly enlightening and informative book on Buddhism with many references and comparisons to Christianity. This book is a useful tool to reach not only Buddhists with the truth but many others confused in the plethora of religions." Tom Inglis (President of Psalmody, former worship leader of RHEMA South Africa)
(After a public talk based on the book) "Everyone I spoke to was very positive about the evening. Steve has a unique testimony and an excellent understanding of how to present the gospel to Buddhists and people in general. We will certainly have Steve back again." Richard Kerridge, International Chairman of ACMI (Associated Christian Ministers International) & Senior Minister of Liberty Christian Church
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"The surprising features of this book are not only the candid information about Buddhism, but also the way Steve intertwines this with the Christian message of hope... This is a book that would be of great value to any Christian seeking information about Eastern religions, especially if wanting to share their faith with a Buddhist. It would also be valuable and readable for a Buddhist person to understand their own faith, and to gain an understanding of Jesus." Rev. Rob Isaachsen (Coordinator of Melbourne Pastors Network & Transforming Melbourne)
"One of the books that I really read from cover to cover. I bought 10 copies and distributed them to my friends. I was once a Buddhist and this book really opened up my eyes. It is a must read for all Buddhists, Eastern religion followers or even Christians who are looking for a way to reach out to these groups of people. Steve Cioccolanti was able to put things in the right manner and has written in a balanced and non-offensive way. This book rocks!" Pastor Daniel Hendrata, (TV Host; Chairman & Co-Founder of Anugrah Ministries)
"Oswald Chambers said, "...it is not sufficient to say, "Because God says it," or, "Because the Bible says it," ...to a man not born again, he will pay no attention to you because he does not stand on the same platform. You have to find a provisional platform on which he can stand with you."
Steve's book "From Buddha to Jesus" is the best tool that I have found to find a common platform with Buddhists. Although the book is primarily focused on Thai Buddhism, the principles in the book can be used with Buddhists in Japan and with Buddhists in other countries. I highly recommend it!" Rev. Daniel Kikawa, B.S., Ph.M., Ph.D. (President of Aloha Ke Akua Ministries; Senior Pastor of Hilo Missionary Church; Author and producer of the award-winning films, "God's Fingerprints in Japan 1 & 2")
Was pretty busy last few days, didn't have time to view LYN, 5 pages in 2 days? Wow, you guys are getting out of hand Can't say the same for my friends who are already married with a kid and he's only 23. Another one is 28. It really depends whether God's plan for you is sooner or later. Great, use that as your advantage.
Well, I know that, AFAIK, the year had just begun and it's already the 2nd month. Be more optimistic, man! Does he read?
Well, there's this book you can get for him,
From Buddha to Jesus: An Insider's View of Buddhism & Christianity by Pastor Peter Cioccolanti (a former Buddhist)
Was pretty busy last few days, didn't have time to view LYN, 5 pages in 2 days? Wow, you guys are getting out of hand Can't say the same for my friends who are already married with a kid and he's only 23. Another one is 28. It really depends whether God's plan for you is sooner or later.
Wow, your friend married at a young age. I wouldn't know if I'm ready for that. I just have to depend on God for that.
HELP!!! Any smartphone users age 30 years old and above please help
Please help me to answer the following questionnaire.. pleaseeeee~~~ It's for my FYP. My targeted population are Malaysians with age 30 and above who at least owns a smartphone. If you are one of them, please help me to answer ya=D P/S: Starbucks app, Airlines apps, Cinema apps are examples of hospitality mobile applications.
SERIOUS RESPONDENTS PLEASE .. This project means a lot to me...
‘Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death. However, if it is not done intentionally, but God lets it happen, they are to flee to a place I will designate.
‘Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death. However, if it is not done intentionally, but God lets it happen, they are to flee to a place I will designate.
this is for some brainless person who say killing is legal
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Yeah, it is just the lack of seeing that the ordinances in this example spiritually typified Christ and also fallen man. And it was a marvellous picture.
The law with its ordinances was not given to people who were innocent and pure. On the contrary, the law was given to people living in a fallen condition. Because of man’s fall and because of man’s living in the fall, there was the need for God to come in to decree the law with its ordinances.
Those verses indicates that one who kills another by mistake has the right to flee for refuge into a place appointed by God.
This means that, in the eyes of God, fallen man is a sinner by mistake and may flee into Christ. When the Lord Jesus was on the cross, He prayed, "Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing" (Luke 23:34). This prayer opened the way for God the Father to come in and forgive mistaken sinners. All those who are sinners by mistake are qualified to flee into Christ as the city of refuge. How wonderful that God may look upon us as mistaken sinners and provide us with Christ as our city of refuge!
Are you a sinner by mistake, or are you a willful sinner?
Spiritually, your repentance toward God indicates that you are a sinner by mistake. If you are a willful sinner, why did you repent? To repent means that you confess you are wrong and are sorry for it. Any sinner who repents is a mistaken sinner, one who can be graciously forgiven by God.
According to 21:14, a person who killed another willfully had to perish. This verse says, "But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbor, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die."
This indicates that willful sinners must perish. Those who perish do so because they refuse to repent. The fact that a certain person does not repent indicates that he is not a mistaken sinner, but is a willful sinner. If a person repents, God will regard him as a sinner by mistake and will forgive him. Such a one may flee into Christ. But if anyone refuses the gospel and does not repent, God will regard him as a willful sinner, one destined to perish. Whether you are a mistaken sinner or a willful sinner is determined by whether or not you repent.
Joined: Apr 2008
From: Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
Basically, all sin is wrong, but no sin is greater than God's forgiveness, providing one is seeking forgiveness sincerely, and not anticipating or expecting that you will be forgiven for the sake of committing sin.
If that is so, then why after confessing sin to God through Jesus, I still feel guilty?
Our feelings are often manipulated by the devil to make us feel condemned.
However the word says
Little children, let us not love [merely] in theory or in speech but in deed and in truth (in practice and in sincerity). By this we shall come to know (perceive, recognize, and understand) that we are of the Truth, and can reassure (quiet, conciliate, and pacify) our hearts in His presence, Whenever our hearts in [tormenting] self-accusation make us feel guilty and condemn us. [For we are in God's hands.] For He is above and greater than our consciences (our hearts), and He knows (perceives and understands) everything [nothing is hidden from Him]. (1 John 3:18-20 AMP)
Here is where you have to exercise your faith, and put your love into action.
Tinarhian German university tuition fees scrapped, maybe you can go back and further your studies now if you wanted too
German university fees is Euro 500 per semester before they scrapped it.
Do you know how much beer I can get for Euro 500? 500 beer.
Dude, Tesco selling Carlsberg for RM97, Giant selling Heineken for RM99. Ah Pek selling Calsberg and Heineken for RM100 each. Ah pek selling so expensive.
I already have my degree, why would I need to study again?
Today I'm making cendol and jelly. I called it "Jellydol."