Well, to be honest. I really do not know who this accountant guy is.

Ok.I browse through some of what was written and this guy was a little too extreme. But then he is speaking the truth but just that the way he presents himself is a little too much. Did not read too much as I was just not interested.

If a brother makes a mistake, then he should be corrected. But then it is not too right to publicly say that guy makes a mistake unless you are very sure.

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What Are You Living For?

Bible Devotions with UW

Losing your Life?



What do you think Jesus meant by this?

Martyrdom?
Upgrading your status to Holier than the rest?
Becoming a sheeple zombie?

Many people read it like that, That God wants to take from you. Asking you to give up your life.
Many people have this idea, God always wants us to give up our property, give up our possession, and he wants to take away everything that you have.
That's why some people shy away from Christianity. "wah must give up everything".

Read carefully. When Jesus says to lose your life, he's not saying it's a loss.
No. Jesus says YOU WILL FIND (gain back) your true life when you lose your old life.

Read it in context.

What is losing our life here means?

Go with me to Matthew 16: 25-26 (NIV)
For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?

And what does the Bible says about "World"?

Go with me to 1 John 2:15-16 (NIV)
15 Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.…
We won't talk about the Lust of the eyes and the pride of life, maybe another time.

What is the lust of the Flesh?

Go with me to Galatians 5:19-21 (NIV)
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.


If you notice "fits of rage" which is also anger. I leave you with 1 last verse:

James 1:19-21 - 19 This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; 20 for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God. 21 Therefore, putting aside all filthiness and all that remains of wickedness, in humility receive the word implanted, which is able to save your souls.…

Now do you understand, what Jesus is asking you to lose? He's not asking you to lose your "life" per say but to let go of all these bad characteristic of the world. Because it will only kill your Life Spiritually. Losing your life for Jesus does not mean you are losing (more like winning) neither does it require you be hard on your fellow Christians because it defeats and hinder all that God wants you to be, living by the Spirit which is of Love.

God Bless.

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The Experience of Jacob

Being Dealt With

In Jacob we do not see God's calling or justification; neither do we see the enjoyment of grace. Rather, we see how he was dealt with by God (25:19—32:21). Even when Jacob was in his mother's womb, God dealt with him. Throughout his life he was constantly under God's dealing. God's dealing was for his transformation. Jacob was born a supplanter, a heel holder. God's intention, however, was to have a prince of God. How could such a supplanter become a prince of God? Only by transformation. It is easy to change a material building, but it is difficult to change a supplanter into a prince of God. This cannot be done overnight; it takes a lifetime. Because Jacob represents the aspect of transformation, he has such a long biography.

In 25:19-34; 27:1-46; and 28:1-5, we see four persons— Jacob, Esau, Isaac, and Rebekah—each of whom is distinct from the others. Although Jacob and Esau were twins, they were absolutely different from one another. "Esau was a skillful hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a quiet man, dwelling in tents" (25:27, Heb.). Jacob was quiet, subtle, and crafty, and Esau was wild, rude, and physically strong. As Jacob and Esau were fighting in their mother's womb, Esau won because of his strength. While Jacob was struggling to get out first, Esau seemed to say, "What are you doing? Let me go first." Jacob was crafty in the mind, and Esau was strong in the body. When Esau learned that Jacob had cheated him, he threatened to kill him. Esau seemed to be saying, "Jacob, you have supplanted me. My mind cannot defeat your mind, but one day I will kill you." In this we see that Jacob and Esau were absolutely different.

Isaac and Rebekah were also different from one another. Rebekah was clever, ingenious, skillful, and capable of manipulating the whole family. She both developed Jacob's craftiness and directed her husband. Isaac was fully under Rebekah's manipulation. As a result of her manipulation, both Esau and Isaac were supplanted. They were not only supplanted by Jacob but also by Rebekah. When Isaac sent Jacob away, he might have thought that he initiated it. Actually, this was initiated by Rebekah. After she had spoken a few words to Isaac, he sent Jacob away to Laban (28:1-5). Rebekah manipulated Isaac in this matter.

Isaac, Rebekah, and Esau worked together for Jacob's good. God used the three of them to transform Jacob. In this we see that all things work together for the good of those who are called by God (Rom. 8:28). Later we shall see that Laban as well as Jacob's wives, maids, sons, and daughter were used by God to transform him. Every circumstance, situation, and person found in the record of Jacob's life was used to transform this supplanter into a prince of God.

We cannot find a story telling us as much about transformation as the story of Jacob does. Jacob had been chosen and predestinated. God's purpose with this chosen one was to transform him into a prince of God. He prefers to transform supplanters like Jacob. What kind of person are you? Are you good, straight, and honest, or are you a Jacob? We all, are Jacobs. Have you not supplanted others? Sisters, you have probably supplanted your mother, husband, and children. Some fathers-in-law have supplanted their sons-in-law, and some uncles have supplanted their nephews. Do not think that you are so good. No, I think of myself as a Jacob. Knowing that we are Jacobs should be an encouragement to us. Do not say, "Oh, I'm so bad and low. I'm not a high-level person." If you are like this, praise the Lord. You are the right person to know God's mercy and grace.

If we had made the choice, probably all of us would have chosen Esau instead of Jacob. Comparatively speaking, Esau was better than Jacob. He never cheated or supplanted anyone. But God did not choose Esau; He chose Jacob. Everyone who has been chosen by God is a naughty one. While Abraham is the example of justification by faith, Jacob is the example of being chosen. Have you been chosen? Then you must be a Jacob, because God only chooses Jacobs. God is God, and we must worship Him as God. He has sovereignly chosen Jacob, the one who was such a supplanter.

Anyone who is from an Adventist (seven day adventist) church here or in that denomination please?

You are from this church?

No Im interested to know if anyone from this denomination

Anyone?

Personal experience.
Must be very careful because it's a possible lifetime commitment. And lifetime commitment must be very careful. Tak kan you want to marry someone you barely know?

This is what every man and woman should do anyway. Don't jump into a relationship too fast.

Oi oi oi it's not just 'Christian girls' okay. Any girl also can do this. You must be dating one that's why come here and ask.
And I hope you realise that Christians are strongly discouraged from marrying/dating non Christians because usually it'll become a battle of wills. Your standards and her standards tak sama. Gaduh. Few mixed relationships end up positive.


Please respect her decision. That goes for any relationship not just Christians.

If she don't want to hold hands, don't. She's not ready for it.
If she declare in a relationship but don't recognize the bf it's her insecurity. Try and talk nicely why she's afraid to say it out loud. Is it because of stigma? Pressure?
If 'why take so long', why not ask yourself 'why do I want it so fast?'

If you can't even respect her current privacy then don't date. Seriously. Don't butthurt and then complain all Christian girls are like that when it's the guy who's pushing so hard for it. Why? Because guy trying to force his way through a girl's heart and most girls feel very violated over that.

It's like prying a flower when it's still a bud. You won't get a flower, you'll just get a botak stalk.

TDLR: Don't be a jerk. If you really love the girl you'll be patient. If she really loves you, she'll eventually open up.

I think i also 'patient' for a year plus and still in chinese saying 'even one stroke also not yet have'

u have a Christian bf, of course its easy for you to say la! Where got so many Christian girls to go arnd?

in church only left many aunties. If not, the good ones are all taken, either married or attch.

sometimes, even if you expand your pool to include non-believers also very hard to find the right one. What more if just limiting one self to believers.


The Bible says,

2 Cor 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

1 Cor 7:12 - 16 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

p.s. Sophiera got any single frens to intro or not?

Sorry, my boyfriend is not a Christian so your argument not valid

must convert him only get married or get married 1st then mebe only he might see the light afterwards?

lei man man dang lar

eh believer with non-believer pak to?

Well, for most non believers. Converting is pretty easy. I mean religion means nothing to them, so converting just for the sake of even getting you as a partner(not life partner) is not hard.

Anyway,

No need to be too desperate. I guess even though I am pretty hard core, I am influenced really heavily by Korean Dramas and I would think that when you love someone, nothing else matters anymore.

Why, thank you mr Sylar222. U must b quite the ladies man

Not really. I am kinda emotional though.

Doa for a long time lor

Listen guys,

Just a perspective.

If you don't have a Christian partner you will journey in life alone spiritually even though you're Married as a couple.
and there are many challenges in Marriage, especially when it comes to Finances and the well being of the children. It's no longer about you or your partner.

Trust me, it's very challenging because Satan loves to break up Family. You look at the divorce rate by Today's standard, you will know it's a real threat every couple will face one day. Imagine your partner praying to whatever deity he/she believes in while you praying to the only Living God, How is that not spiritual warfare everyday, giving the enemy some loop hole to attack in any area that's an opportunity. It's very tiring spiritually if your partner is a non believer.

There is Wisdom in 2 Corinthians 6:14. To Me there's no such thing nothing else matter. Because it does matter, really.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 8 2014, 05:19 PM