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post Oct 8 2020, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Oct 8 2020, 03:42 PM)
Anyone have heard about Tornado cat food?
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Oct 8 2020, 08:35 PM)
Do you know if it is any good? It cost more than Green.
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Never heard of Tornado, so I referred to Tornado ingredients inside this shopee link:
https://shopee.com.my/product/130273005/754...17-1602162662.9

The ingredients: Selected beef, Deep sea fish, Corn, Wheat, Animal fat, fish powder, seaweed powder....

Bolded very dubious ingredients to me, i won't advise for it. If low on budget, i think Taste of the Wild is the better option. But if you really want a good one for your cat, prepare at least rm200 for 5-6kg kibbles.
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post Oct 8 2020, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Oct 8 2020, 05:54 PM)
Noted. Thanks for the advices on the repack. It's true also that it might be expired already. Will see what I can do. Initially thought to start off with RC kitten but they say it's better to do grain free.....
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 8 2020, 05:57 PM)
most grain free dont have kitten size, if im not mistaken...
anyway still can try, maybe the kitty have no problem with the bigger size.
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Carnilove is grain-free, has smaller kibbles for kitten.
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post Oct 8 2020, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Oct 8 2020, 08:35 PM)
Do you know if it is any good? It cost more than Green.
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Can°t komen, cos i'm not goin to pet shop, belek belek look see anymore..

y tornado? your place don°t have other brand oredi?

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post Oct 9 2020, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 8 2020, 09:40 PM)
Can°t komen, cos i'm not goin to pet shop, belek belek look see anymore..

y tornado? your place don°t have other brand oredi?
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I'm asking not because I want to use it but because it come out of nowhere & expensive than Green. That's why I asked here if anyone have heard about it.
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post Oct 9 2020, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Oct 8 2020, 09:19 PM)
Never heard of Tornado, so I referred to Tornado ingredients inside this shopee link:
https://shopee.com.my/product/130273005/754...17-1602162662.9

The ingredients: Selected beef, Deep sea fish, Corn, Wheat, Animal fat, fish powder, seaweed powder....

Bolded very dubious ingredients to me, i won't advise for it. If low on budget, i think Taste of the Wild is the better option. But if you really want a good one for your cat, prepare at least rm200 for 5-6kg kibbles.
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I don't mind with corn, wheat, etc as long as they are not main ingredient. If I can afford 200 for 6kg kibbles, I rather make homemade whole meat meal for my cat.
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post Oct 9 2020, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Oct 9 2020, 02:01 PM)
I don't mind with corn, wheat, etc as long as they are not main ingredient. If I can afford 200 for 6kg kibbles, I rather make homemade whole meat meal for my cat.
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First 5 ingredients are what people normally look at when buying pet food. They are main ingredients. Other posters pls do correct me if im wrong here.
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post Oct 9 2020, 09:07 PM

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How about Reflex Plus cat food? Anyone heard of it?

QUOTE(hirano @ Oct 9 2020, 02:32 PM)
First 5 ingredients are what people normally look at when buying pet food. They are main ingredients. Other posters pls do correct me if im wrong here.
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I think there's misunderstanding here. See my last reply to Basilisk if that's help.
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post Oct 9 2020, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Oct 9 2020, 09:07 PM)
How about Reflex Plus cat food? Anyone heard of it?
I think there's misunderstanding here. See my last reply to Basilisk if that's help.
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hey there, i bought two bags during the cat expo recently as I've never seen them before and their booth was one of the largest there.
i bought both, reflex plus and reflex high quality for kittens as i am fostering mostly kittens.

Reflex Plus 15KG RM160: RM10.67/KG
https://www.reflexmama.com/urunler/reflexpl...rumama4?lang=en

Ingredients
Chicken Proteins (dehydrated), Corn, Chicken Fat, Rice, Beet Pulp, Liver Flavour, Vitamins and Minerals, Xylo-Oligosaccharides, Brewer’s Yeast, Linseed, Salt, Yucca Schidigera, L-Carnitine, Preservatives - Antioxidants.

Minerals: Calcium, Phosphorus, Sodium, Iodine, Zinc, Copper, Iron, Selenium.

Vitamins: Vit. A, Vit. D, Vit. E, Vit. C, Vit. B1 - B2 - B3 (Niacin) - B6 - B12 - B7 (Biotin) - B9 (Folic Acid), Vit. K, Choline, Calcium Pantothenate.

Analytical Constituents
Crude Protein...................36%
Crude Fat.........................18%
Crude Ash..........................8%
Crude Cellulose (Fiber)......2%

Carbs: 34%

Reflex High Quality (White Packaging) 15KG RM140: RM9.33/KG
https://www.reflexmama.com/urunler/reflex/kurumama4?lang=en

Ingredients
Processed Animal Protein, Wheat, Corn, Animal Fat, Corn. Gluten, Rice, Liver Aroma, Salt, Flaxseed, Dried Brewer's Yeast, Taurine, MOS (Mannan Oligo Saccarid), Beta-Glucan, Yucca, Quillaja.
Minerals: Calcium, Phosphorus, Sodium, Iodine, Zinc, Copper, Potassium, Chloride, Iron, Selenium.

Vitamins: Vit. A, Vit. D, Vit. E, Vit. C, Vit. B1 - B2 -B3 (Niacin) - B6 - B12 - B7 (Biotin) - B9 (Folic Acid), Vit. K, Choline, Calcium, Pantotetan.

ANALYTICAL CONSTITUENTS
Crude Protein*......................37%
Crude Fat..............................20%
Crude Ash...............................8%
Crude Cellulose (Fiber)...........3%

Carbs: 30%


Funny how the cheaper food has less carb percentage albeit the ingredients not so good.

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post Oct 9 2020, 11:24 PM

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its easy n low cost to get high protein percentage. wheat, corn has got protein content. Those animal parts frm human food processing has high protein content as well.
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post Oct 12 2020, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Oct 8 2020, 05:33 PM)
Awesome...thanks for the feedback. smile.gif And best part...my speakers are KEF too..Which do you have? lol....Yeah.AVR gets damn freaking hot but turning on Eco mode makes it alot cooler so hopefully that fella don't climb up. lol.
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You can check out my HT system in my signature... just a small system for Home use....

Yeap, Odorlock is on the expensive side of clay litter compared to China stuff. Think 6Kg less than RM50 and 12kg should be less than RM100. Just see how you manage the weight.
As in normal clay type.. sure got spill and stuff. So need to sweep.. Dust so far quite manageable. Clay litter these 2 are the main con... Dust and spill.


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post Oct 12 2020, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 5 2020, 01:43 PM)
uti =  infection, still can pee, but painful.

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Block or obstruction is one of the conditions that fall under uti/flutd as far as I know.

Anyway, did you witness how the vet unblock it? I have seen my vet unblock my cats but there is one time he tried & give up. None of my cats that I bring to vet for this particular medical issue survived.
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post Oct 12 2020, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Oct 12 2020, 01:03 PM)
Block or obstruction is one of the conditions that fall under uti/flutd as far as I know.

Anyway, did you witness how the vet unblock it? I have seen my vet unblock my cats but there is one time he tried & give up. None of my cats that I bring to vet for this particular medical issue survived.
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I just left d fler there.

Yes have read online bout cases where vet fail to unblock, so option is surgery etc.

Why, those cats did not survive?
Can crita panjang lebar? Cos very important to know.

Manage to unblock, then happen again? How come kenot survive??
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post Oct 12 2020, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 12 2020, 02:33 PM)
I just left d fler there.

Yes have read online bout cases where vet fail to unblock, so option is surgery etc.

Why, those cats did not survive?
Can crita panjang lebar? Cos very important to know.

Manage to unblock, then happen again? How come kenot survive??
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I dunno. Most cats if I remember correctly died the same day after coming back from vet. That I remembered, one died in the taxy on the way home & one died the next day. I think because it is blocked, toxin cannot come out, it affect the internal organ until the heart stopped. Maybe when I noticed it, it already progressed too far. The ones the vet managed to unblock, peed a lot right away but they all became weak, drifting away after that. I have three male cats that I did not bring to vet & still alive today but I gave them the leftover medicine that was for the deceased cats. I changed their diet. I give them homemade wet food in the evening every day.

I can understand unblocking the cat is not easy. The cat penis is so tiny, it's difficult to flush solution through it to unblock it. But vet, they supposedly trained for this. I feel disappointed with the vet for the ones he failed to unblock.

The vet told me, sometime the "plug" - that is what they called it for the crystal that formed & blocked - appeared in the penis. So in emergency, if you know how to get to the cat penis, you can check & carefully massage it to crush the "plug". They break easily.
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post Oct 12 2020, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Oct 12 2020, 04:23 PM)
I dunno. Most cats if I remember correctly died the same day after coming back from vet. That I remembered, one died in the taxy on the way home & one died the next day. So in emergency, if you know how to get to the cat penis, you can check & carefully massage it to crush the "plug". They break easily.
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Thx for the reply. Fully understand.

It's important to discover early.

Until today, scientist still can't be sure what is the real cause of this.
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post Oct 14 2020, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Oct 8 2020, 03:19 PM)
Just saw it on Shopee that sells repack. I'll prolly get a few brands and see what it prefers before buying the 5kg or more ones. Worse come worst, just steam some fish or chicken to start with, lol.
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is it? nice! seldom shop online, but now with MCO, i think i will buy the repack from online

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post Oct 14 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 8 2020, 05:05 PM)
Most expensive cat litter in msia, bcos only available in PLC.

Bought this to check out, not the odour locking capability,
but the almost zero dust claim.
After watchin this video...

So, if compare to all those china clay, this litter is like less than 5% dust of those other clay litter.

Tracks easily, cos sand like particles.

The cheapest clay litter per kg is Catspro.  1bag 8kg exact. RM12 only.



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almost everything in PLC are their own import brand lol. They import and sell in their own retail.
anyway, i agree, those china bentonite are quite dusty.
I am using everclean.
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post Oct 14 2020, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kelly_Sim @ Oct 14 2020, 04:25 PM)
almost everything in PLC are their own import brand lol. They import and sell in their own retail.
anyway, i agree, those china bentonite are quite dusty.
I am using everclean.
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everclean price is almost / more expensive than odourlock.

not sure if it is as dust free.
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QUOTE(Kelly_Sim @ Oct 14 2020, 04:23 PM)
is it? nice! seldom shop online, but now with MCO, i think i will buy the repack from online
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Yup, do check it out. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 17 2020, 09:49 AM

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I suggest for everyone to go for online as price is WAAAAAAY cheaper consider those offline shops.
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post Oct 17 2020, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(BeverlyHills @ Oct 17 2020, 09:49 AM)
I suggest for everyone to go for online as price is WAAAAAAY cheaper consider those offline shops.
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Depends, unless can get free shipping or discounted shipping, the total cost is gona be more than shop price. Esp for heavy stuffs like cat litter, big bag of food etc.

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