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  Mar 14 2006, 01:16 AM, updated 19y ago
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As stated above,i'm very interested to do piloting but have almost absolutely no idea on how to go about it.Mas has given their address and so i shall be sending them my resume very soon but i don't know where to send it for Air Asia and SIA.
I'm told that MAS has only 2 intakes a year and that only 12 students get in each time,how far this is true i do not know. A senior pilot or captain's recommendation almost guarantees you a place i heard. What about you guys,how'd you get in?,how's it now?,where were you sent to?  This post has been edited by tatayoung: Sep 2 2006, 04:40 PM |
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Mar 14 2006, 09:20 AM
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Hey there,
I'd just got my SPM result and now I'm currently preparing my resume and will probaly send it tomorrow. I just wanna ask if i should include my sijils along?, i mean like those school persatuan and those kinda sijil? |
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Mar 14 2006, 10:32 AM
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wah piloting = BIG MONEY!
good lah make sure you work hard for it and just do it! |
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Mar 14 2006, 05:43 PM
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dude just sent ur resume to mas ..they are now taking a lot of trainee for pilot....huhuhhuhh
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Mar 14 2006, 06:18 PM
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Ok man,i shall be doing so.
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Mar 14 2006, 08:57 PM
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2 of my friend are doing their courses with MAS right now. Every intake they only take 16 person from thousands that applied. If you were shortlisted, you will have to go for 4 phases of interview and then only they inform you whether you are succesfull or not. If you get it, you'll have to complete 1 year courses (subjects,exams etc) and then another 6 months for simulator training. That's what i know. But your SPM result must be really impressive (straight A's etc).
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Mar 14 2006, 08:59 PM
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just 170k to study own in Malaysia. still cheaper than study Doctor in Malaysia.
ohya, MAS have very bad financial problem so do hope too much from them. |
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Mar 15 2006, 09:39 PM
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Hey guys,anyone is a pilot?,i wanna find out some stuff..........
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Mar 16 2006, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(cybergear03 @ Mar 14 2006, 08:57 PM) 2 of my friend are doing their courses with MAS right now. Every intake they only take 16 person from thousands that applied. If you were shortlisted, you will have to go for 4 phases of interview and then only they inform you whether you are succesfull or not. If you get it, you'll have to complete 1 year courses (subjects,exams etc) and then another 6 months for simulator training. That's what i know. But your SPM result must be really impressive (straight A's etc). 2 of your friends also straight As? what do you mean by etc? |
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Mar 19 2006, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE(tatayoung @ Mar 14 2006, 01:16 AM) As stated above,i'm very interested to do piloting but have almost absolutely no idea on how to go about it.Mas has given their address and so i shall be sending them my resame very soon but i don't know where to send it for Air Asia and SIA. Just send in ur application immediately!!! MAS today onli got advertise in star newspaper.... IF u study higher then STPM or a-lvl,,,then btr apply SIA lar..... And if u want more flying and hectic hours,,,apply air asia lar...I'm told that MAS has only 2 intakes a year and that only 12 students get in each time,how far this is true i do not know. A senior pilot or captain's recommendation almost guarantees you a place i heard. What about you guys,how'd you get in?,how's it now?,where were you sent to? Ur info is totally crap lar.... I dunnoe y but MAS is recruiting soooo many cadets when they are actually selling of their planes.... MAS is sending 16 cadet per batch and the intervels is like 2 weeks each... So basicly 'everyone can fly'.... You no nid to be a genius to apply if you got some TNB cables which most cadets have..... But if u think u dun hav,,,then straight A might get u to the test lar.....i guess..... |
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Mar 19 2006, 03:55 AM
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thx airseal yohoho... so free to surf lowyat but not to update ur blog!!
sorry for off topic mod. |
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Mar 19 2006, 12:36 PM
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I also wish to apply to MAS but i have no idea of wat to include in the resume...so anyone can give some idea in writing the resume?
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Mar 22 2006, 12:42 AM
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just including anythin as they want to see u r result n ur cocuricular activities...... another thing to be chosen one is really hard ....cause usually they all use their 'cable' or org dalam to get in ..... this is why is hard for people like us to take this program....my frend got one he already failed the first attempt n second attemp was help by some big guy in the company
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Mar 22 2006, 10:46 PM
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OK....
must clear some myth... You don't have to Score STRAIGHT A's in SPM to be selected... you have to score A's in the Subject that matters(ALthough they say minimum a 4B, better to score A,) MATHS (i scored 1A) English (I Scored 1A, GCE' O 2A) Physics ( I Got 2A) BM........(Don't do too badly, i GOT 4B) What i Submit?: SPM Result 2004 South.Australian.Matriculation results 2005 SPM Oral Certificate for Both English and BM. School Leaving CERT/Testimonial i've submitted after CNY. got called for Psychomotor today, i've pass this psychomotor. doing my MISPA next weel. Basiclly there are 4 stages 1) Psychomotor 2) MISPA 3) Interview 4) Medical (i currently have a Class-1 medical which i did on my OWN) Failing any stages will result in you failing the whole thing. you don't need to be a genius to fly a plane, you don't need to have IQ of above 140... you need to be : GOOD Hand-Eye COORDINATION( tested during Psychomotor) CALM UNDER PRESSURE MAKING GOOD DECISION CONFIDENT(BUT NOT OVERLY) ___________________________________________________________ Study locally and privately is possible. But it's not easy to get a space in HM Aerospace or MFA. This post has been edited by fillet: Mar 22 2006, 10:53 PM |
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Mar 22 2006, 11:17 PM
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nice job fillet.
Can anyone tell we what is the reference thingy inside resume? |
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Mar 23 2006, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 22 2006, 10:46 PM) OK.... congratz for getting to the second stage....must clear some myth... You don't have to Score STRAIGHT A's in SPM to be selected... you have to score A's in the Subject that matters(ALthough they say minimum a 4B, better to score A,) MATHS (i scored 1A) English (I Scored 1A, GCE' O 2A) Physics ( I Got 2A) BM........(Don't do too badly, i GOT 4B) What i Submit?: SPM Result 2004 South.Australian.Matriculation results 2005 SPM Oral Certificate for Both English and BM. School Leaving CERT/Testimonial i've submitted after CNY. got called for Psychomotor today, i've pass this psychomotor. doing my MISPA next weel. Basiclly there are 4 stages 1) Psychomotor 2) MISPA 3) Interview 4) Medical (i currently have a Class-1 medical which i did on my OWN) Failing any stages will result in you failing the whole thing. you don't need to be a genius to fly a plane, you don't need to have IQ of above 140... you need to be : GOOD Hand-Eye COORDINATION( tested during Psychomotor) CALM UNDER PRESSURE MAKING GOOD DECISION CONFIDENT(BUT NOT OVERLY) ___________________________________________________________ Study locally and privately is possible. But it's not easy to get a space in HM Aerospace or MFA. juz a short advice,,,,time is precious in the second test and be urself in the personality test..... |
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Mar 24 2006, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(AiRseaL @ Mar 19 2006, 03:50 AM) Just send in ur application immediately!!! MAS today onli got advertise in star newspaper.... IF u study higher then STPM or a-lvl,,,then btr apply SIA lar..... And if u want more flying and hectic hours,,,apply air asia lar... haha..actually if u look at their website they have ongoing vacancies for cadet pilot since last year. Only recently advertise on newspaper....MAS need a lot of new pilot since most of thier pilot have move to other airline (better pay la what else).Ur info is totally crap lar.... I dunnoe y but MAS is recruiting soooo many cadets when they are actually selling of their planes.... MAS is sending 16 cadet per batch and the intervels is like 2 weeks each... So basicly 'everyone can fly'.... You no nid to be a genius to apply if you got some TNB cables which most cadets have..... But if u think u dun hav,,,then straight A might get u to the test lar.....i guess..... Yea, it pay alot, but i dont think its worth it, u be travelling around the world and dont have time for ur family. At finally at one stage u will become bored.So if u really want to be a pilot make sure u have a passion on it no just because of the pay. |
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Mar 24 2006, 12:43 AM
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My friend failed the color blind test, then cannot continue already. He passed all the exam in the 1st stage...such a waste.
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Mar 24 2006, 02:43 AM
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how can he fail? is he reallly color blind?
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Mar 24 2006, 01:33 PM
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there's an alternative if u fail u ISHIHARA Colour PLATE TEST.
can try FANSWORTH LANTERN TEST |
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Mar 26 2006, 12:00 AM
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Its really hard to get in to SQ with just a STPM. They mostly take Bachelor degree holders and couple of diploma holders.
I applied for both SQ and MAS. Got a call from MAS for final interview last month and it was a SAturday morning (seems like they are desperate for cadets), but it was too late, i've already signed for SQ. |
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Mar 26 2006, 12:30 AM
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Supreme Allied Commander,,,,congratz for getting into SQ!!! I understand that its much harder then MAS lar,,,,n mas pilot's standard is dropping nowadays coz they are so desperate and easy in their selection.....
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Mar 26 2006, 12:33 AM
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Mar 26 2006, 12:50 AM
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Thanks airseal, i'm actually at my 3rd month in SQ. If i remember right it took MAS about 8 months to call me for my 3rd round interview. This shows how efficient r they in doing things.
BTW hows the training is MAS ? |
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Mar 26 2006, 01:24 AM
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captain will get 10k+ montly salary
and to get be captain need around 10 years depend on ur performance |
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Mar 26 2006, 12:10 PM
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well...
supreme allied commander... one thing bad about SQ.... they will chop u anytime they like.... BTW i also applied for SQ one week after my application to MAS with my SAM(australian year-12 results) ... TO date.. only MAS has called me up... not SQ...  but i hoope to get into either one.. i couldn't be bothered much about the pay right now as long as i get the JOB!!!! if i pay for my own training... i'm risking not being able to get a job..... for MAS it's a bit different.. your chances of stayintg are much higher... BTW... after your MISPA, how long did u wait.. i'm taking my MISPA next wednesday. since i have a slot in Langkawi HM Aerospace in MAY.... i'm afraid MAS will take too long. if i cancel the langkawi and gamble on MAS.... i may have to wait another 1 or 2 years before i get into langkawi if i fail for MAS This post has been edited by fillet: Mar 26 2006, 12:17 PM |
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Mar 26 2006, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 22 2006, 10:46 PM) OK.... I score 147 in my IQ test.... must clear some myth... You don't have to Score STRAIGHT A's in SPM to be selected... you have to score A's in the Subject that matters(ALthough they say minimum a 4B, better to score A,) MATHS (i scored 1A) English (I Scored 1A, GCE' O 2A) Physics ( I Got 2A) BM........(Don't do too badly, i GOT 4B) What i Submit?: SPM Result 2004 South.Australian.Matriculation results 2005 SPM Oral Certificate for Both English and BM. School Leaving CERT/Testimonial i've submitted after CNY. got called for Psychomotor today, i've pass this psychomotor. doing my MISPA next weel. Basiclly there are 4 stages 1) Psychomotor 2) MISPA 3) Interview 4) Medical (i currently have a Class-1 medical which i did on my OWN) Failing any stages will result in you failing the whole thing. you don't need to be a genius to fly a plane, you don't need to have IQ of above 140... you need to be : GOOD Hand-Eye COORDINATION( tested during Psychomotor) CALM UNDER PRESSURE MAKING GOOD DECISION CONFIDENT(BUT NOT OVERLY) ___________________________________________________________ Study locally and privately is possible. But it's not easy to get a space in HM Aerospace or MFA.  BTW, I thought there is one more test, which is distorted and noised listening test? And you will need to get 75% of the content correct to pass. Or may be the radio communication is upgraded today, the sound is clear, that test is no longer required. But the phonetic is stll needed right? alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, echo, foxtrot, golf, hotel, india, juliet......  |
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Mar 26 2006, 01:13 PM
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THAT test will be covered in your Medical... it's called audiogram.. lol interesting tsest.... hear and TAP hear and tap...
RADIO TELEPHONY ABBREVATIONS CONTINUED: KILO LIMA MIKE NOVEMBER OSCAR PAPA QUEBEC ROMEO SIERRA TANGO Uniform VICTOR Wilco X-ray YANKEE Z...(is it ZEBRA??) This post has been edited by fillet: Mar 26 2006, 01:14 PM |
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Mar 26 2006, 01:52 PM
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SQ and MH has their own pros and cons la.
MH is hiring like no tomorrow while selling their leased planes. While SQ is in constant expansion especially for their 777 fleet. Not to say the A380 which will be in service soon enough. BTW, there will be lots of graduation these few months, if you get in MH now, your seniority gain will be slower than those graduate earlier, promotion will be much tougher. |
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Mar 26 2006, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 26 2006, 01:13 PM) THAT test will be covered in your Medical... it's called audiogram.. lol interesting tsest.... hear and TAP hear and tap... Z is zuluRADIO TELEPHONY ABBREVATIONS CONTINUED: KILO LIMA MIKE NOVEMBER OSCAR PAPA QUEBEC ROMEO SIERRA TANGO Uniform VICTOR Wilco X-ray YANKEE Z...(is it ZEBRA??) W not wilco but whiskey zip'bra'    |
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Mar 26 2006, 02:52 PM
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Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo
i heard a rumor say if you give money to the MAS management which selecting the cadet, confirm u will been choose.. but how to know who are the 1 manage the cadet pilot in MAS? su8aru also rite, MAS have no more finance to support their cadet pilot program. last time each year their will select less 300 cadet pilot, this year maybe less.. |
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Mar 26 2006, 04:50 PM
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bah... i only nid a chance to be shortlisted for 1st test. no nid to be confirmed to been choose.
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Mar 26 2006, 07:57 PM
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oh...I see..it is audiogram
yup, W is Whiskey. There is other version of it use by non english based country. I'm interested in piloting too, but I thought it was ultimate hard, so I didn't give it a try, and I'm studying electronics engineering now. Until last year, I searhed for its information, I knew I was wrong  . But the main reason is not I like to fly, but I like to control machine, and I think aircraft is challanging enough for me. Ok, later when I'm working, I think I will get a personal flying license.oh, ya here is a page I think might help those who interested to be a commercial pilot http://www.askcaptainlim.com/index.html and one tips, play microsoft flight simulator 2004. Yes, play it I'm serious. But I don't think I can use it in my normal life. Last time when I call the Streamyx customer service, I use this phonetic code when I tell that operator my username. That guy just stop there and keep pardon pardon....swt.... finally I use rojak word to represent a,b,c...just like anyone else. Then he only ah... This post has been edited by ZiYi: Mar 26 2006, 09:58 PM |
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Mar 26 2006, 10:20 PM
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the phonectics is to clear confusion when u say something...
some Ah beng say 'B', may sound like a 'D' to you... BTW.. becoming a pilot is not HARD. but needs sheer determination. |
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Mar 26 2006, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 26 2006, 10:20 PM) the phonectics is to clear confusion when u say something... hopefully u r right some Ah beng say 'B', may sound like a 'D' to you... BTW.. becoming a pilot is not HARD. but needs sheer determination.   |
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Mar 27 2006, 11:07 AM
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Tumpang thread pls...
This is off topic What is the pay for a pilot fly a jet in military? If i was a pilot working in commercial airline, can he fly or join the military? or vice versa? |
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Mar 27 2006, 02:02 PM
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u mean u?? ermm if u were military fighter pilot, u have to convert ur license to transport license. if u were co-pilot, sorry i have to say... cant for sure. the instrument in the cockpit are totally different:)
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Mar 27 2006, 03:48 PM
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MILITARY >> CIVIL YES.. definately...
CIVIL >> MILITARY, don't think so |
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Mar 27 2006, 04:03 PM
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how about the salary for the military pilot?
very much kah? let's say he flies very high tech jet .... This post has been edited by owenwong84: Mar 27 2006, 04:04 PM |
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Mar 27 2006, 06:59 PM
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ermm... this is depends on our interst lah... not a wise choice if u wanna earn $$ with piloting. Piloting is for those who are aspired for flying not aspired for MONEY!!
anyway the salary of fighter pilot less than co-pilot. but their elaunce much more higher!! i will apply for cadetship at TUDM after my form 6 hopefully i can flying with hornet 1 day hahaha.... fighter pilot is the second choice for me to get myself into aviation field ^^ |
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Mar 27 2006, 08:31 PM
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IF i am right usually the military pilots do not have licenses. SO if they one day decide to join the airlines they will have to do everything again just like any of the cadets. ie. all the way to ATPL.
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Mar 27 2006, 08:44 PM
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but they got their flying log book rite?
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Mar 27 2006, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 27 2006, 03:48 PM) MILITARY >> CIVIL YES.. definately... not really, military cant simply convert to civil unless u take the license again.CIVIL >> MILITARY, don't think so FYI, in russia and china alot airplane crash because their airlines is taking pilot from military. |
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Mar 27 2006, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(su8aru @ Mar 27 2006, 08:53 PM) not really, military cant simply convert to civil unless u take the license again. agree.. there aircraft instrument is not the same as transport pilot! anyway MH still using alot of military pilot now rite?FYI, in russia and china alot airplane crash because their airlines is taking pilot from military. |
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Mar 27 2006, 11:53 PM
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Guys,wow it looks like a lot of us are really interested in piloting,may the best men get in.It's good to know that there are guys out there like me who don't wanna sit at a desk from 5-7.
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Mar 27 2006, 11:59 PM
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i think u all made a mistake..
ALL MILITARY PILOTS DO HOLD A Lincese i'm not sure whether it's ATPL or not.. if it's not.. it can be converted in ATPL easily.. don't have to go through ALL over Again.. Please dun use CO-Pilot to refer to commercial pilot.. it gives people a wrong impression that flying in the Military Earns Lesser then a First Officer(co-pilot), infact it's lesser then Professional Commercial Pilots, not CO-Pilot co-pilot=first officer ,NOT commercial pilot..... thx. ___________________________________________________________________ MILITARY Pilots too needs to follow rules set by DCA. BTW.. according to TUDM website... Pilots will be trained up to ATPL standards as required by DCA. so.. i don't think a Military pilot has no license... they do have This post has been edited by fillet: Mar 28 2006, 12:05 AM |
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Mar 28 2006, 12:22 AM
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fillet, you misunderstood the website.
It just means that the PLTB is capable of training ATPL graduates, doesnt mean that military pilots have to hold ATPLs. BTW, it's the flight log hour that is important to unfreeze the frozen ATPL, if you have those hours logged, opportunity to become a commercial pilot is easy to come by. |
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Mar 28 2006, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 27 2006, 11:59 PM) i think u all made a mistake.. i agree with u, fighter pilot have trained until the atpl lvl when at their flying college. Afterward only they choose the best pilot for fighter. anyway, commercial pilot got many types somemore for those who didnt hold an atpl license. wat they meant at the previous post i though they are talking abt co-pilot/FO. so i straighly use co-pilot. ALL MILITARY PILOTS DO HOLD A Lincese i'm not sure whether it's ATPL or not.. if it's not.. it can be converted in ATPL easily.. don't have to go through ALL over Again.. Please dun use CO-Pilot to refer to commercial pilot.. it gives people a wrong impression that flying in the Military Earns Lesser then a First Officer(co-pilot), infact it's lesser then Professional Commercial Pilots, not CO-Pilot co-pilot=first officer ,NOT commercial pilot..... thx. ___________________________________________________________________ MILITARY Pilots too needs to follow rules set by DCA. BTW.. according to TUDM website... Pilots will be trained up to ATPL standards as required by DCA. so.. i don't think a Military pilot has no license... they do have |
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Mar 28 2006, 03:47 PM
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also... the fun thing about MILITARY is not the PAY.. if the type of MACHINE u fly..
BTW... if u manage to enter TUDM college... roughly.. only 10%(every intake) will be choosen for FLight Operations... others.... sad to say ground jobs.. |
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Mar 28 2006, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 28 2006, 03:47 PM) also... the fun thing about MILITARY is not the PAY.. if the type of MACHINE u fly.. thats wat i'm worrying.BTW... if u manage to enter TUDM college... roughly.. only 10%(every intake) will be choosen for FLight Operations... others.... sad to say ground jobs.. |
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Mar 28 2006, 09:20 PM
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hahah Enter TUDM anyhow also can be pilot..
if you are choosen for Flight Operations,... hahah nice... If u are choosen for ground job.. PILOT also mah.. play Flight Simulator..hahha BTW where is WMKP?? i only know WMKF WMKM This post has been edited by fillet: Mar 28 2006, 09:20 PM |
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Mar 28 2006, 10:10 PM
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Mar 28 2006, 10:23 PM
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Batu Berendam & Langkawi flying academi fully booked for more or less 2 years,BAD news.........
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Mar 28 2006, 10:32 PM
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tatayoung... 2 years later they will still be booked...
it's very hard to get places at these schools... they are reseving their spaces for MAS and Air Asia |
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Mar 28 2006, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(teddie @ Mar 28 2006, 02:26 PM) i agree with u, fighter pilot have trained until the atpl lvl when at their flying college. Afterward only they choose the best pilot for fighter. anyway, commercial pilot got many types somemore for those who didnt hold an atpl license. wat they meant at the previous post i though they are talking abt co-pilot/FO. so i straighly use co-pilot. Didnt read my post before agreeing?TUDM doesnt choose military pilots from atpl holders. They choose from their pool of soldiers who passed the simulator test and recommended by their officer in command. Those who are chosen get into Kolej Tentera Udara for further training. NOTHING TO DO WITH CIVIL AVIATION WHATSOEVER. And BTW, military pilots earn a lot as well. For a flight instructor with 500 hours logged, RM4000 allowance each month. Coupled with base salary, the number can reach up to 5 digits. This post has been edited by DeathWing: Mar 28 2006, 10:58 PM |
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Mar 28 2006, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Mar 28 2006, 10:55 PM) Didnt read my post before agreeing? i got this info frm education fair, some of the tudm cadets told me this. They said after u graduated with atpl frozen, then the instructor start picking.TUDM doesnt choose military pilots from atpl holders. They choose from their pool of soldiers who passed the simulator test and recommended by their officer in command. Those who are chosen get into Kolej Tentera Udara for further training. NOTHING TO DO WITH CIVIL AVIATION WHATSOEVER. And BTW, military pilots earn a lot as well. For a flight instructor with 500 hours logged, RM4000 allowance each month. Coupled with base salary, the number can reach up to 5 digits. |
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Mar 28 2006, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(teddie @ Mar 28 2006, 11:43 PM) i got this info frm education fair, some of the tudm cadets told me this. They said after u graduated with atpl frozen, then the instructor start picking. What do military pilots do with an Airline Transport Pilot License?And what about the money spent in training ATPL? Some 200k just for the selection process? Hell a lot of commercial pilots wannabe would line up just to get it. I worked in Butterworth airbase before, it's one hell of a busy base with fulcrums and hornets flying all the time. I get to meet and chat with military pilots all the time. Most of them have to get through hard time getting CPL and ATPL theory before full ATPL is given. No offence but just go for it if you thinks it's logical. |
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Mar 29 2006, 02:19 PM
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Butterworth Air BASE?? beside teluk air tawar??
well.... every morning has flights |
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Mar 29 2006, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 29 2006, 02:19 PM) Butterworth Air BASE?? beside teluk air tawar?? It's teluk air tawar, or rather JALAN teluk air tawar.well.... every morning has flights Not just morning, night as well. They just never care anything about noise abatement and such. |
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Mar 29 2006, 05:50 PM
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wow.. very informative site...
after i finish my SPM last time... i got a thought of taking my carrer as pilot.. cause can travel... and stuff... hehe... but at last i decided to stick to accounting. maybe if i am rich enough.. i will get a personal liesence... (is it that what they call????) |
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Mar 29 2006, 06:01 PM
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Private Pilots License (PPL)
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Mar 29 2006, 08:10 PM
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First you need to get CPL/Cadet pilot license, then PPL/ Private pilot license, after then ATPL Frozen/ Air Transport pilot license Frozen, which mean you have to unfreeze it by achieving certain hours.
I think I missed a license here, which is something Commercial pilot license. Can someone fresh me up? |
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Mar 29 2006, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Mar 29 2006, 08:10 PM) First you need to get CPL/Cadet pilot license, then PPL/ Private pilot license, after then ATPL Frozen/ Air Transport pilot license Frozen, which mean you have to unfreeze it by achieving certain hours. cpl is commercial pilot license, before u get ppl, u must get spl first, student pilot license.I think I missed a license here, which is something Commercial pilot license. Can someone fresh me up? |
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Mar 29 2006, 09:52 PM
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wow...
how much usually it cost to take a PPL??? from bottom to be able to pilot a plane... |
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Mar 29 2006, 10:31 PM
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ard 20-30k, depends on the flying school/clubs
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Mar 29 2006, 10:32 PM
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thanks, that's what i missed. CPL=commercial pilot license, no wonder i felt like missed something about commercial
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Mar 29 2006, 10:57 PM
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i was so surprised when i checked my mailbox today
i just got a call-up for interview by SIA for cadet pilot. anyone got the same call-up? |
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Mar 29 2006, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Mar 29 2006, 10:57 PM) i was so surprised when i checked my mailbox today Dude good luck i just got a call-up for interview by SIA for cadet pilot. anyone got the same call-up? SIA interview is much tougher but at the same time more rewarding and less time consuming. Wish you best of luck. |
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Mar 29 2006, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Mar 29 2006, 11:07 PM) Dude good luck TQ. SIA interview is much tougher but at the same time more rewarding and less time consuming. Wish you best of luck. i would like to know more info bout this interview from those who experienced it b4. so far, i was told to prepare a medical report on my eye-sight and some certs to bring along. will there be any simulator test? like those aircraft game in arcade? This post has been edited by hoongji: Mar 29 2006, 11:17 PM |
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Mar 29 2006, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Mar 29 2006, 11:17 PM) TQ. i would like to know more info bout this interview from those experience it b4. If it's the first interview, then equip yourself with knowledge on aircraft and some skill on common interview.so far, i was told to prepare a medical report on my eye-sight and some certs to bring along. will there be any simulator test? like those aircraft game in arcade? You can worry about simulators later in second interview. |
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Mar 30 2006, 08:56 AM
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i was required to get an eye test report from qualified doctors and not opticians. can i just go to a normal clinic and have my eyes examined? does clinic doctor have this kind of service?
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Mar 30 2006, 11:46 AM
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License sequence..
PPL CPL/IR(Usually u need MeIR) ATPL the total COST if u study in Malaysia is about RM170k-180k including MAKAN tidur MANDI.,.,.. |
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Mar 30 2006, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Mar 29 2006, 11:17 AM) TQ. first interview should be piece of cake. Generally, they ask different questions depending on individual background. They usually ask questions to see how much u know bout aircraft and how interested u r about SQ. Learn the company's profile, aircrafts they fly (btw they only fly widebodies), and a little bit about theory of flight. They will aslso try to agitate u to see how u take pressure. i would like to know more info bout this interview from those who experienced it b4. so far, i was told to prepare a medical report on my eye-sight and some certs to bring along. will there be any simulator test? like those aircraft game in arcade? One more thing they will ask which subsidary of SQ u want to work for. Pax , cargo or silkair. |
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Mar 30 2006, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Mar 29 2006, 10:57 PM) i was so surprised when i checked my mailbox today goodluck hoongji, wish u the best of lucks!!!i just got a call-up for interview by SIA for cadet pilot. anyone got the same call-up? |
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Mar 30 2006, 09:12 PM
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thx for all the wishes. i will surely share my experience after the interview. but have to wait till next month 23rd.
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Mar 30 2006, 11:05 PM
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their simulator are not like those in game my fren.. it's like super advance with alof of buttons to press.. haha
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Mar 30 2006, 11:46 PM
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WAH SAD LAH.. i also sent my apploication to SQ... but no news yet..
i applied with my Matriculation results.... BTW.. for those of you thinking of joining AA, AA has put their cadet program on hold until further notice. To date, AA has only selected 6 batches... C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 after C6 everything was put on HOLD BTW.. if u want to knore more regarding PILOt.. vesit PPRUNE, Professional Pilots' Rumours Network there u get all sorts of people.. from wannabes to REAL pilots... ATC, do a search in google for PPRUNE .. i don't know whether i can poist the URL here or not... just do a search for PPRUNE and u will see it. This post has been edited by fillet: Mar 30 2006, 11:48 PM |
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Mar 31 2006, 12:05 AM
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My friend from MAS just told me MAS has put Cadet Pilot applications on hold until further notice but not confirmed yet cause their website is still advertising for vacancy.
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Mar 31 2006, 12:11 AM
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your friend from MAS?
pilots? i believe MAS would need pilot.... because many of their more experience pilot is moving abroad................................. wah.. if really on hold.. how ah? i just took MISPA |
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Mar 31 2006, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 31 2006, 12:11 AM) your friend from MAS? Yea, pilot, this is what he told me.pilots? i believe MAS would need pilot.... because many of their more experience pilot is moving abroad................................. wah.. if really on hold.. how ah? i just took MISPA MAS is executing business turnover plan by cutting workforce of 3000. MAS is selling planes but still recruiting pilots. MAS has 1300 pilots in the pool with around 200 cadet pilots graduating. MAS has its own board of directors on how to lose money in the shortest time. Anything MAS did doesnt make sense. Keep your spirit high, might not be true at all. |
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Mar 31 2006, 01:59 AM
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for your information about MAS refinancial.. They have planning to stop flying 30% of the total plane in their fleet.
they have 17s B747, 12 will be take out from service. they have 16 A330 now but maybe only 9 will retain in service. now they have 39s B737, but soon they will only keep 21 of it. so i dont think MAS need alot pilot now.. |
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Apr 1 2006, 07:13 PM
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Well,i'm told that MAS is takin in pilots like CraZY......,how can that be,selling planes and continuing to recruit pilots,CraZY.......
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Apr 2 2006, 02:41 PM
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Maybe they are trying to sell their pilots next .. trying to be like an academy for another airlines firms.
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Apr 2 2006, 03:34 PM
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Highly Possible man,.........
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Apr 2 2006, 06:22 PM
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i saw SIA ad in the the newspaper yesterday. vacancies for stewardess and cadet pilots as well. anyone interested, pls give a try
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Apr 3 2006, 03:04 AM
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mas really need a lot of pilot becaused they already signed an mou with HMA to send their cadet pilot for the next 3 years
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Apr 3 2006, 01:54 PM
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where do the pilots go next after graduating??? LOL...
counteR? |
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Apr 3 2006, 11:46 PM
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simulator training at MAS acedemy for a few months time.
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Apr 3 2006, 11:47 PM
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no teddie..
what i meant is After graduating with all the ratings and stuff ready to hop onto the Right Hand SEAT... where will they go? MAS has cut their domestic routes........ sold some of their planes.. with 300 cadets coming in... where do they go>???? |
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Apr 3 2006, 11:53 PM
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sit at the jump sit first anyway^^
u forgot MH trying to sell their staff to AK?? hahaha... AK got 100 of airbus wat. |
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Apr 4 2006, 12:10 AM
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are you SERIOUs??
MH selling their people to AK? |
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Apr 4 2006, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 4 2006, 12:10 AM) are you SERIOUs?? sure, MH selling their 734 and staff to AKMH selling their people to AK? |
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Apr 4 2006, 09:37 PM
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Sorry for the noob and ignorant question. Too lazy to go through 5pages. But what is the required eyesight to be eligible to become a pilot?
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Apr 4 2006, 10:11 PM
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another spoonfeeding attitude fella.
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Apr 4 2006, 10:30 PM
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teddie and fillet, are both of you waiting for sponsorship ?
Just asking,do you guy plan to study and get the license yourself if you fail inside the interview? |
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Apr 4 2006, 11:05 PM
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i'm studying form 6 now, this year stpm.
if i got $$, sure i will go by selfsponsor, but unfortunately, my parent can't afford to pay the fee just because of financial problems. Sigh... |
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Apr 5 2006, 01:16 AM
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i more fortunate......
I will self-sponsor if i don't make it for MAS cadet pilot. |
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Apr 5 2006, 02:04 PM
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fillet,
which school u manage to go? i think mfa is a wise choice while hma is still not recognise by SQ |
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Apr 5 2006, 03:01 PM
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Dont think SQ will hire any Frozen ATPL graduates anyway.
The reason they sponsor cadets is that they can be choosy in the selection process. Remember, you have to get through the whole process for cadet pilots even though you have all the CPL/Froz ATPL. Direct entry pilots are completely different stories. IMO, just try again and again for the cadet pilot selection, it's the best way. |
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Apr 5 2006, 03:04 PM
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SQ do hire low flying hour pilot. however the detail i am not very clear.
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Apr 5 2006, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Apr 5 2006, 03:04 PM) SQ do hire low flying hour pilot. however the detail i am not very clear. Through the cadet pilot selection process.You might have advantages but seriously, not much point. Self sponsor only if you are ready to take on general aviation. |
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Apr 5 2006, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Apr 5 2006, 03:08 PM) Through the cadet pilot selection process. Sorry,just now iwas eating pineapple, typing with one hand,so wasnt able to write much.You might have advantages but seriously, not much point. Self sponsor only if you are ready to take on general aviation. Now i am eating lunch Back to the topic. I am not sure whether its rare case or not, but I did saw someone with fresh frozen ATPL hired by SQ. You got the point, but i think if we keep waiting airline's cadet pilot programme, why dont we self sponsor, and then find a general aviation airport and gain up 500 hours and then we will get the requirement of most airlines. I got a noob question: After cadet pilot get thier frozen atpl, they will still continue thier lesson provided by thier own airline. So do a direct entry pilot with low flying hour need to have the lesson too? Please correct my mistakes. This post has been edited by akira de aimbuster: Apr 5 2006, 03:30 PM |
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Apr 5 2006, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Apr 5 2006, 03:29 PM) I got a noob question: After cadet pilot get thier frozen atpl, they will still continue thier lesson provided by thier own airline. So do a direct entry pilot with low flying hour need to have the lesson too? Please correct my mistakes. |
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Apr 5 2006, 08:04 PM
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OK...
i was thinking of getting into MFA.. but i only manage to get a space in HMA. so no choice... and yes... it may be difficult for Self-sponsored pilots to get airline job... but if other people have done it, WHY NOT? and for SQ.. they only recognise license from MASSEY University, MFA(i'm not sure), now if u have your own license , you cannot Join SQ as direct entry pilot(because you only have like 200 hours), HOWEVER.... for all the low hours pilot who do not meet their direct entry requirements, you can apply to join SQ via CADET Pilot route with your license. If u get choosen, and they recognise your LICENSE.... you can jump striaght into LEARJET Training, and then your type rating training, while those without license will have to start form scratch..... THIS can only be done if SQ recognises your flying school, CHECK WITH THEM. I've heard a SIMILAR story from MAS. This guy was FED-UP waiting for MAS to call him up, he entered HMA. halfway through, MAS called him up for selection.. he pass all the stages. He END up with MAS. but the difference is, he still pay for his training, but he sign BONDs with MAS for his 737 T/R Training. after all the training, he go straight into 737. Normally, cadet will have to sign 15 years bond, but this person signs a much shorter one because MAS only pays for his 737 type rating. Getting CPL/IR on your own is a much harder way to be a pilot if compared to CADET Pilot.... but if people have done it.. WHY NOT? Don't expect to sit in 737 once u come out... you may have to work harder.. such as becoming a flight instructor at local flying clubs until you get 1500 hours (of which you will be granted a FULL-ATPL) i'm not a Pilot yet... and don't even have my license..... but my advice is... IF u REALLY WANT IT.. WORK HARD FOR IT..... I believe in one thing.. SHEER DETERMINATION Without Giving UP Will get YOU THERE. Good Luck to all Future Aviators. This post has been edited by fillet: Apr 5 2006, 08:11 PM |
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Apr 5 2006, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 5 2006, 08:04 PM) OK... agree..!!i was thinking of getting into MFA.. but i only manage to get a space in HMA. so no choice... IF u REALLY WANT IT.. WORK HARD FOR IT..... I believe in one thing.. SHEER DETERMINATION Without Giving UP Will get YOU THERE. Good Luck to all Future Aviators. anyway, last time before the singapore flying college is set up in singapore, SQ does sent their cadet to MFA. why SQ don't recognize m'sia license, because of the regulations and rules at singapore civil aviation department is differnt with m'sia. Just like DCA msia/sgp don't recognize AUST./ other countries IR and ATPL. For HMA is just esthablised and if u r looking for flyer job at oversea airlines such as china/hk, better go to aust. This post has been edited by teddie: Apr 5 2006, 08:51 PM |
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Apr 10 2006, 11:09 PM
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Anyone got called up by MAS already?
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Apr 10 2006, 11:15 PM
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They froze all cadet recruitment.
HR said they havent receive official order to stop recruitment and so the psychomotor and psychometric tests are still ongoing. The MISPA results is with flight operations since last December and they are still waiting notice from Idris Jala. Just ask any pilot in MAS and they will tell you that MAS is having surplus of pilots mainly due to cut down of domestical routes. This post has been edited by DeathWing: Apr 10 2006, 11:36 PM |
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Apr 23 2006, 12:46 PM
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hi,
i just got back from the SIA first interview. here's my experience: the interviewers consist of 2 persons. one from the HR and one is the Captain. they are very nice people and friendly. basically before you go for the interview, you need to do research first on SIA company and the fleet. from there, you expand to learn more about the flying principles, air plane parts and then the types of airplanes+engines+purpose. it is good to know all these things because those will be asked in the interview. the standard questions are why you want to be pilot, some eduaction backgrounds and then comes the tough part where the Captain will grill you on airplane questions (first question will be what types of fleet SIA has).he will test you how well you know. from there, he will expand and deepen his questions like what types of engines used, thrust of engines, difference between plane models and the final part is how does an airplane part (rudder, aileron, elevators) work and how does an airplane flies. good lucks to the coming batches of interviewees. hope the info above helps. i will know the results in 2-3 weeks time. i will share more here when time comes. till then...happy flying and landing |
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Apr 23 2006, 01:29 PM
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Good Luck to you hoongji
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Apr 23 2006, 02:26 PM
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good for you.. SIA called you up...
i submitted in febuary.. till now no news..!!!!guess my only hope is to wait for my HMA to start.. |
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Apr 23 2006, 04:17 PM
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Hehe, I wanted to become a pilot when I was small. During 12 years old, our school had medical checkup and I was the only one who cannot see the numbers on the colour plate. Did not give up hope as I read articles who managed to become pilot even with slight deficiency. Now, wearing spectacles (double wham). *cries*
Good luck to all who becomes a pilot, it is a career not sought by many. One of the biggest downsides of a pilot is their flying schedule. You can have holidays on the weekdays (Tuesday, Wednesday) and fly on a weekend or vice versa. Pilots know no public holidays, so be prepared to celebrate some festivals 30,000 feet above sea level.  |
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Apr 23 2006, 04:20 PM
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GOGO SIA!
Provided you dont sound arrogant and answer to the point, you should be able to clear 1st interview easily. Prepare to be thoroughly grilled in the second interview though. |
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Apr 23 2006, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Apr 23 2006, 04:20 PM) GOGO SIA! yes...arrogant is definitely a no-no. the captain will shoot your ego down.Provided you dont sound arrogant and answer to the point, you should be able to clear 1st interview easily. Prepare to be thoroughly grilled in the second interview though. i was really lucky today that the captain has been smiling and friendly to me throughout the whole interview. just a question though: is that normal for the HR to read out the salary, training allowance, repayment, bond and other stuffs during the interview? |
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Apr 23 2006, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Apr 23 2006, 04:25 PM) yes...arrogant is definitely a no-no. the captain will shoot your ego down. Yeap, for you to understand the cadet pilot training program completely.i was really lucky today that the captain has been smiling and friendly to me throughout the whole interview. just a question though: is that normal for the HR to read out the salary, training allowance, repayment, bond and other stuffs during the interview? You'll be given more info when you reach Singapore. Dude, I've a feeling we will meet in the near future.  |
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Apr 23 2006, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Apr 23 2006, 04:29 PM) Yeap, for you to understand the cadet pilot training program completely. are you in SQ now?You'll be given more info when you reach Singapore. Dude, I've a feeling we will meet in the near future. |
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Apr 23 2006, 08:26 PM
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Nine...
don't give up... go get a medical done.. if the doctor clears you.... then all SMILES !!if u fail the colour plate... u can do Fansworth Lantern Test.. if u fail... i think the next one is Neil Bagel something.. DeathWing, hongji good luck to both of you i wasn't called up for SIA... still waiting for my MISPA results..... my training gonna start soon, money from parent's pocket.... hongji deathwing, does u all have a Degree??? becuase i only applied with SPM and australia Year-12(equiv to a-lvls) This post has been edited by fillet: Apr 23 2006, 08:26 PM |
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Apr 23 2006, 08:30 PM
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Yea,
Very busy life, Im sure you wont be able to spam in lowyat anymore. Anyway, SIA is very very choosy, and they have marks for everything, the entire interview process will do well to assess your personality. And for second round, expect provocative chief pilots, not friendly pilots. The intakes now are still planned for the expanding triple seven fleet I think. Those 300ERs will be finger licking good @fillet, the real minimum requirement should be degree holders (Singaporean diploma holders with RSAF experience might get through) as for now. As quoted from the HR dude, "it's for your own good". Dont rely on MAS, I personally know quite a number of Malaysians who applied for both MAS and SIA but MAS took their own sweet time, and thanks to that, we're all in SIA. I suggest you do your degree first before attempting anything, piloting career is simply too volatile. This post has been edited by DeathWing: Apr 23 2006, 08:36 PM |
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Apr 23 2006, 09:57 PM
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hmm.... well..
i've already had plan for langkawi flight school.... i'm going into the May intake........confirmed....... i though of degree...... but i don't really have the heart to do degree....... i took a gamble and enroll into flight school....... i know a few guys who did it on their own and got into Airline..... and i am taking the same gamble.... i had my Eyes on AirAsia or Instructing at local club..... well... now is the golden moment because there is a shortage of pilots in China, Air Asia, India... ... i don't want to miss the ship and wait for another round of shortage...... that's why i decided to take a gamble and not go for degree... This post has been edited by fillet: Apr 23 2006, 10:24 PM |
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Apr 23 2006, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Apr 23 2006, 08:30 PM) Yea, so are you in Selatar or in Jandakot at the moment? i do hope we can meet in the future.Very busy life, Im sure you wont be able to spam in lowyat anymore. Anyway, SIA is very very choosy, and they have marks for everything, the entire interview process will do well to assess your personality. And for second round, expect provocative chief pilots, not friendly pilots. The intakes now are still planned for the expanding triple seven fleet I think. Those 300ERs will be finger licking good @fillet, the real minimum requirement should be degree holders (Singaporean diploma holders with RSAF experience might get through) as for now. As quoted from the HR dude, "it's for your own good". Dont rely on MAS, I personally know quite a number of Malaysians who applied for both MAS and SIA but MAS took their own sweet time, and thanks to that, we're all in SIA. I suggest you do your degree first before attempting anything, piloting career is simply too volatile. |
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Apr 24 2006, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 23 2006, 09:26 PM) Nine... I still got a little bit of flame left for piloting. How and where do I get these clearance from doctor? What are the fees and procedures? Then again, I have spectacles (amblyopic, meaning 1 eye perfect vision, 1 eye cacat). The chances still slim, got better chance striking 5th prize Toto. Haha.don't give up... go get a medical done.. if the doctor clears you.... then all SMILES !!if u fail the colour plate... u can do Fansworth Lantern Test.. if u fail... i think the next one is Neil Bagel something.. |
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Apr 24 2006, 12:11 AM
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nine... my condition??
SEVERELY MYOPIC R: -4.5 -1.75 L: -4.25D -1.75D i hold a valid class-1 Till january 2007. go check MFA's website FAO section.. can see a list of doctor.. i recommend Young Newton and Co >> Dr. Kee |
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Apr 24 2006, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 23 2006, 09:57 PM) hmm.... well.. MFA full already? I though you booked a seat in there.i've already had plan for langkawi flight school.... i'm going into the May intake........confirmed....... i though of degree...... but i don't really have the heart to do degree....... i took a gamble and enroll into flight school....... i know a few guys who did it on their own and got into Airline..... and i am taking the same gamble.... i had my Eyes on AirAsia or Instructing at local club..... well... now is the golden moment because there is a shortage of pilots in China, Air Asia, India... ... i don't want to miss the ship and wait for another round of shortage...... that's why i decided to take a gamble and not go for degree... Anyway I will reserve a seat either in melaka or langkawi later. While waiting for MAS, I will try to finish my stpm. If no news from MAS, then with stpm certificate i will apply for SIA cadet, alternatively I will get loan and study myself. So if fillet after you study in there,remember to give me some feedback  |
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Apr 24 2006, 12:25 AM
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nope...
i Booked myself a slot in HMA through a person who know them well... |
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Apr 24 2006, 12:30 AM
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 maybe in the late future I will need your help. Its an advantage to know someone inside, unfortunately i doesnt have this chance Anyway, today's news paper, HMA cadets graduated already. Our PM also attend the ceremony. |
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Apr 24 2006, 02:31 PM
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deathwing,
which fleet you r flying now? wat should be considered if i wish to get shortlisted? anyway, is it posible to promote as 744 f/o without spending a long term at triple 7? hoongji, really that easy the 1st phase interview? i though the interviewee will abuse you charm charm @@" actually i scare the question, what make you so impressed in piloting >"< i couldn't get a really answer for myself, i love aircraft just like the feeling of "love a girl" hahaha.... spotting is my hobby and flying is wat i aspired! But i can't tell the HR/ capt. like this rite hahaha.... headahcing... *25 weeks to go for stpm trial... sigh..... no more spotting recently |
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Apr 24 2006, 02:38 PM
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Har...the problem is I wear spec..if not..I would like apply for the course.....do they create new exemption???
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Apr 24 2006, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Apr 24 2006, 02:38 PM) Har...the problem is I wear spec..if not..I would like apply for the course.....do they create new exemption??? i dun think so... still need gud eye sight |
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Apr 24 2006, 03:32 PM
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NOT INTENDED AS FLAMING, just tired ..people asking the same thing.. and some people giving the wrong answer when they have no knowledge bout it themselves
SERIOUSLY guys... if u don't knwo much about the medical.. don't misled other people... eric84cool .... you can be a pilot... with specs... but i guess you are not fit to be one.... Because if you're really interested... you would have did your own research...... let me tell u... A pilot in Malaysia and singapore Needs at least an Uncorrected vision of 6/60 ,correctable to 6/6 . i have a Class-1 Medical.... my vision correction? R: -4.5D -1.75D L: -4.25D -1.75D Layman's Term Right eye 450, Astig 175 Left eye 425, astig 150 So my adevice eric84cool, find one profession where u can survive with spoonfedding..... In USA, FAA standards says that you can Be a pilot regardless of your refraction error(glasses power) as long as you are corrected to 6/6. SAME appliese to CASA australia. in UK, it's JAA LAND...... you cannot exceed Initial +/-5D with no more than 2D Astig Renewal +/-8D with no more than 3D astig ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS READILY AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET, IF U CAN'T FIND THEM and tell us you want to be one.... I GUESS u are not FIt to be a pilot Eric84cool, if u wnat to make sure u can be one before applying.,..... go get a medical done... cost less than RM200 ... This post has been edited by fillet: Apr 24 2006, 03:48 PM |
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Apr 24 2006, 07:59 PM
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Those triple sevens are just superb and technologically advance, the cockpit is comparable to even the A350 or A380. I dont see any reason you would prefer an old 747-400 (SIA phasing them out) against a cutting edge 777.
Not to say that there is possibility for dual rating with 777 and 787 Dreamliner. Was kinda disappointed when not assigned to the Airbus fleet, after all, A380 is what everyone hunting for. Sorry to disappoint but AMBLYOPIA will make one of your eye non correctable to 6/6, which means you're not qualified medically in any sense. PS:Make sure piloting is what you want, you cant be so sure until you get your hand on a control yoke yourself, and it is very very different from what you see on the TV, good luck and tailwind always. This post has been edited by DeathWing: Apr 24 2006, 08:06 PM |
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Apr 24 2006, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Apr 24 2006, 07:59 PM) Those triple sevens are just superb and technologically advance, the cockpit is comparable to even the A350 or A380. I dont see any reason you would prefer an old 747-400 (SIA phasing them out) against a cutting edge 777. triple 7 is on yoke while a380 is on sidestick. which one do you prefer?Not to say that there is possibility for dual rating with 777 and 787 Dreamliner. Was kinda disappointed when not assigned to the Airbus fleet, after all, A380 is what everyone hunting for. Sorry to disappoint but AMBLYOPIA will make one of your eye non correctable to 6/6, which means you're not qualified medically in any sense. PS:Make sure piloting is what you want, you cant be so sure until you get your hand on a control yoke yourself, and it is very very different from what you see on the TV, good luck and tailwind always. btw deathwing: you are in selatar or jandakot at the moment? |
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Apr 24 2006, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Apr 24 2006, 07:59 PM) Those triple sevens are just superb and technologically advance, the cockpit is comparable to even the A350 or A380. I dont see any reason you would prefer an old 747-400 (SIA phasing them out) against a cutting edge 777. agree... it is different from the tv drama. actually, while we take off and landing properly we will prefer head wind and while we cruising to higher altitude we prefer tail wind.Not to say that there is possibility for dual rating with 777 and 787 Dreamliner. Was kinda disappointed when not assigned to the Airbus fleet, after all, A380 is what everyone hunting for. Sorry to disappoint but AMBLYOPIA will make one of your eye non correctable to 6/6, which means you're not qualified medically in any sense. PS:Make sure piloting is what you want, you cant be so sure until you get your hand on a control yoke yourself, and it is very very different from what you see on the TV, good luck and tailwind always. and make sure piloting is what u want improtant message.any spotters frm penang here? hoongji, honestly, not really much pilot frm MH love airbus, they prefer boeing. mayb causes of the sidestick from airbus?? not sure abt this. But surely, AK pilot prefer buses  deathwing, although 744 is a old model and without fly-by wire system but it is a some kind of prestigous for a pilot if flying on it, a SQ 777 pilot and MH777 pilot told me that. But they have no complain on their rating currently. |
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Apr 24 2006, 09:10 PM
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I ain't gettin anny replies,from MAS or SIA...........,how dissapointin........
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Apr 24 2006, 09:46 PM
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Tatayoung,
May i know your qualification? Teddie, I am not sure which tv drama you meant, but if you mean a hong kong drama named 'triumph to the sky', I remember it did told us when an airplane take off it prefer head wind and when on high atitude, it prefer tail wind? |
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Apr 24 2006, 09:51 PM
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hmm....
some pilots prefer sidestick.... some prefer the boeing type.. the yoke.. BTw deathwing.......... has anyone in your batch got CHOPED halfway by SIA..??? SIA ,unlike MAS will kick anyone out if they think that the performance is not up to their liking........ BTW... HK drama 'Triumph in the Skies' is ALMOST BULLSHIT when it comes to PILOT......... they focus on their love life..... it's a bullshit when u see the FLYING scene............. there's one reason why when a PLANE takes off, the pilot will almost always face the PLANE opposite the wind direction........... this is to create MORE lift, because of the Velocity difference between the PLANE and the Headwind........... the plane can takeoff at a shorter distance......... let's say a plane take off speed is 60 knots with calm wind........ but on a particular day when they're a headwind of 10 knots.. this plane can takeoff at 50knots... taking off with tailwind is kind of risky............ and remember the Famous AIR FRANCE's Concorde accident?? one of the many reasons is the pilot took off with tailwind...... and because the plane needs a longer distance...... the pilot used a stretch of the runway which is under repair ............ This post has been edited by fillet: Apr 24 2006, 09:59 PM |
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Apr 24 2006, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 24 2006, 09:51 PM) BTW... HK drama 'Triumph in the Skies' is ALMOST BULLSHIT when it comes to PILOT......... they focus on their love life..... it's a bullshit when u see the FLYING scene............. I watched this drama with full expectation that it would give me more detail about a pilot's life and in the end, majority of the story was about love. And unfortunately the time I sent my resume to MAS is when the drama started on tv3, i am sure after while a lot of people will rushing to become a pilot there's one reason why when a PLANE takes off, the pilot will almost always face the PLANE opposite the wind direction........... this is to create MORE lift, because of the Velocity difference between the PLANE and the Headwind........... the plane can takeoff at a shorter distance......... let's take a C172 as example.. let's say it's take-off speed is 60knots..... if there's a headwind of 10 knots... the C172 can takeoff at 50knots.... taking off with tailwind is kind of risky............ and remember the Famous AIR FRANCE's Concorde accident?? one of the many reasons is the pilot chose to takeoff with TAILWIND.. However I did gain some knowledge from it, and yet, when I online check the information it gave,mostly50% are wrong I doubt they took those airplane scenes using FS2004 This post has been edited by akira de aimbuster: Apr 24 2006, 10:05 PM |
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Apr 24 2006, 10:10 PM
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yes it is totally different when talks abt pilot in that drama.
aerofoil needs head wind to produce elevatory and the theroms is just the same as what we studied in form 4 physics. IF tailwind occuring while take off, they need a longer runway to take of as the pressure at the lower part of aerofoil is not enough to produce an elevation same story to upper part, need to cut down the pressure. when lifted and crusing at a certain/ increasing altitude, they require tailwind to cut down the wastage of fuel. that's wat written at some webside and i can't provide the link because i had lost the url>"< |
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Apr 25 2006, 12:01 AM
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I got a question. According to MFA alumni record, mostly people only graduate with cpl.
http://www.mfa.edu.my/alumni.html#1990 they are not going for atpl? |
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Apr 25 2006, 12:27 AM
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They GRADUATE with CPL/IR with PASSES in ATPL paper...
until they have flown 1500 hours, they cannot be GRANTED ATPL. ATPL will only be granted to someone who has flown 1500 hours............... your cannot obtain ATPL fresh from flying school... the Term Frozen-ATPL means a CPL/IR with passes in ATPL papers. |
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Apr 25 2006, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 25 2006, 12:27 AM) They GRADUATE with CPL/IR with PASSES in ATPL paper... yea to unfreeze your license nid 1.5k flying hours included sim. training. afterward you will promoted to junior f/o with 2 barsuntil they have flown 1500 hours, they cannot be GRANTED ATPL. ATPL will only be granted to someone who has flown 1500 hours............... your cannot obtain ATPL fresh from flying school... the Term Frozen-ATPL means a CPL/IR with passes in ATPL papers. This post has been edited by teddie: Apr 25 2006, 01:08 AM |
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Apr 25 2006, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(teddie @ Apr 25 2006, 12:57 AM) yea to unfreeze your license nid 1.5k flying hours included sim. training. afterward you will promoted to junior f/o with 2 bars Not really la brother.Full ATPL aint that easy to gain, and may takes several years time after getting the FO position. Promotion from 1 bar SO to 2 bar FO on the other hand, takes only around 6-9 months of line duties. Some said SO are boring, I would regard it as a dormant/resting period. SO FTW! |
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Apr 25 2006, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 25 2006, 12:27 AM) until they have flown 1500 hours, they cannot be GRANTED ATPL. Then how to explain those who graduated with atpl? You mean they did atcually have flown for 1500 hours?ATPL will only be granted to someone who has flown 1500 hours............... your cannot obtain ATPL fresh from flying school... the Term Frozen-ATPL means a CPL/IR with passes in ATPL papers. This post has been edited by akira de aimbuster: Apr 25 2006, 01:16 PM |
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Apr 25 2006, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Apr 25 2006, 01:16 PM) Then how to explain those graduated with atpl? You mean they did atcually have flown for 1500 hours? Yes, military pilots, general aviation pilots for example, notice those are mostly caucasian names in there. |
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Apr 25 2006, 02:14 PM
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actually what is the main job of SO?? and how do u log the hours??
P1US? P2 ?? PNF ??? |
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Apr 25 2006, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 24 2006, 09:51 PM) there's one reason why when a PLANE takes off, the pilot will almost always face the PLANE opposite the wind direction........... wow, this is most interesting. this is to create MORE lift, because of the Velocity difference between the PLANE and the Headwind........... the plane can takeoff at a shorter distance......... let's say a plane take off speed is 60 knots with calm wind........ but on a particular day when they're a headwind of 10 knots.. this plane can takeoff at 50knots...  my understanding of planes is limited to what i read in MS Flight Sim manuals. Is it because , more headwind means greater airflow pass the wings, and thus higher lift is generated? |
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Apr 25 2006, 07:24 PM
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socratesman..
i'm explaining based on SPM and College Physics.... not from flight sim.... what they meant by Greater Airflow is FASTER airflow........ which i already said.. but in a more scientific manner.. |
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Apr 25 2006, 07:40 PM
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oops yeah it should be faster airflow.
Faster airflow on top of wings->lower pressure->higher lift (Bernoulli's principle) |
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Apr 25 2006, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Apr 25 2006, 01:06 PM) Not really la brother. thanks, understood! anyway those explanation on atpl i just quote frm my fren who r now in AK academy, waiitng to unfreeze her licenseFull ATPL aint that easy to gain, and may takes several years time after getting the FO position. Promotion from 1 bar SO to 2 bar FO on the other hand, takes only around 6-9 months of line duties. Some said SO are boring, I would regard it as a dormant/resting period. SO FTW! |
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Apr 25 2006, 08:36 PM
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'HER' license..
wow.. congrats to your friend... really females are equal to male now!!1 |
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Apr 25 2006, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Apr 25 2006, 08:36 PM) 'HER' license.. yea ... her license hehehe...wow.. congrats to your friend... really females are equal to male now!!1 |
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May 12 2006, 12:01 AM
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Those who taken form 6 may I know what subject did you take?
Just wondering is add math important? |
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May 12 2006, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ May 12 2006, 12:01 AM) Those who taken form 6 may I know what subject did you take? I've taken phsyics, chemist, math T, general paper. Will be sitting stpm this nov.Just wondering is add math important? |
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May 12 2006, 02:24 PM
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You need to have a very fit physical health with good coordination/response.
Why not getting a degree 1st then apply? You stand higher chance to get into SIA with the degree. Of course with higher $$$ |
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May 12 2006, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(yixings @ May 12 2006, 02:24 PM) You need to have a very fit physical health with good coordination/response. If after STPM isnt sufficient yet then i guess i will have to study myself.Why not getting a degree 1st then apply? You stand higher chance to get into SIA with the degree. Of course with higher $$$ Atcually I dont really care about the $$$, just wanted to fulfill my ambition. teddie: This question is foolish, but chemistry have nothing to do with pilot right? I guess u take it as to ensure other job in future. |
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May 12 2006, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(teddie @ May 12 2006, 12:04 PM) I've taken phsyics, chemist, math T, general paper. Will be sitting stpm this nov. Gambate my fren!!! All the best in STPM and hope to c ya soon!!!QUOTE(yixings @ May 12 2006, 02:24 PM) You need to have a very fit physical health with good coordination/response. SIA is of course a better company to fly wif but then you have to be as hardworking as singaporean and cant have relax life compare to mas..... SIA cadets are strictly choosen from the best and most of them have a basic degree or sumthing lar.... MAS also got many pilots wif degree.... Its just that they took sum as soon as after spm oni... Taliking about being VERY fit......try visiting sum flying skool now in m'sia......Why not getting a degree 1st then apply? You stand higher chance to get into SIA with the degree. Of course with higher $$$ QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ May 12 2006, 03:19 PM) If after STPM isnt sufficient yet then i guess i will have to study myself. All da best to you!!! Make sure u make it to ur ambition kkk...... And for teddie,,,i think chem is a wajib subject mar and oni physics and bio can choose....Atcually I dont really care about the $$$, just wanted to fulfill my ambition. teddie: This question is foolish, but chemistry have nothing to do with pilot right? I guess u take it as to ensure other job in future. |
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May 13 2006, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ May 12 2006, 03:19 PM) teddie: This question is foolish, but chemistry have nothing to do with pilot right? I guess u take it as to ensure other job in future. QUOTE(AiRseaL @ May 12 2006, 11:29 PM) Gambate my fren!!! All the best in STPM and hope to c ya soon!!! yo!! airseal, so free to posting here, make sure u have visit my blog offently haahaha... smooth flying!!SIA is of course a better company to fly wif but then you have to be as hardworking as singaporean and cant have relax life compare to mas..... SIA cadets are strictly choosen from the best and most of them have a basic degree or sumthing lar.... MAS also got many pilots wif degree.... Its just that they took sum as soon as after spm oni... Taliking about being VERY fit......try visiting sum flying skool now in m'sia...... All da best to you!!! Make sure u make it to ur ambition kkk...... And for teddie,,,i think chem is a wajib subject mar and oni physics and bio can choose.... |
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May 14 2006, 11:35 PM
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i would really want to try.. but then i have less than 6 credits for SPM.. i think i have only 3 in BM, English and Mathematics.. i have an 8E for my physic..
do u think i have chance?  dun think so, huh? |
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May 15 2006, 01:04 AM
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Just try. Mas now sending cadets to kota baharu or somewhere there. They keep sending because badawi wants more pilot. And mas pilots run to ermarits or itihad however u spell it. im too lazy to check the spellings. currently langkawi has batch 2-9? and melaka has batch 15-18? please correct me. and like they said every batch has around 15 people. now they are opening new flying skool. imagine the opportunity.
and one more thing. mas wont go bankrupt because its supported by the goverment. its the national thing. suported by badawi. they hav to fly all the crappy routes because the goverment wants them to fly it. and if u want to send a resume. at least write the 1st page with a your writing. then u can print the rest. last time computer is rare.. printing in unique. nowdays everyone prints. u need to stand out. use your handwriting and write neetly. good luck |
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May 15 2006, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(koopa @ May 15 2006, 01:04 AM) Just try. Mas now sending cadets to kota baharu or somewhere there. They keep sending because badawi wants more pilot. And mas pilots run to ermarits or itihad however u spell it. im too lazy to check the spellings. currently langkawi has batch 2-9? and melaka has batch 15-18? please correct me. and like they said every batch has around 15 people. now they are opening new flying skool. imagine the opportunity. ermm....sorry to pop the excitement here.....and one more thing. mas wont go bankrupt because its supported by the goverment. its the national thing. suported by badawi. they hav to fly all the crappy routes because the goverment wants them to fly it. and if u want to send a resume. at least write the 1st page with a your writing. then u can print the rest. last time computer is rare.. printing in unique. nowdays everyone prints. u need to stand out. use your handwriting and write neetly. good luck currently MAS and Air Asia has temporarily stopped their cadet pilot program because there's something funny between them since this year. MAS is currently deciding whether to sell their planes with their cadet pilots as a package to Air Asia and the hold-up is due to the gov has not decided yet and with a promise of more domestic routes for Air Asia. yes, MAS is lack of experienced pilots and not fresh cadet pilots coz they've just got 300 new cadet pilots but not enough routes/planes for them. got the news from my friend who is going to graduate this july....... |
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May 15 2006, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ May 15 2006, 01:04 AM) Just try. Mas now sending cadets to kota baharu or somewhere there. They keep sending because badawi wants more pilot. And mas pilots run to ermarits or itihad however u spell it. im too lazy to check the spellings. currently langkawi has batch 2-9? and melaka has batch 15-18? please correct me. and like they said every batch has around 15 people. now they are opening new flying skool. imagine the opportunity. and one more thing. mas wont go bankrupt because its supported by the goverment. its the national thing. suported by badawi. they hav to fly all the crappy routes because the goverment wants them to fly it. and if u want to send a resume. at least write the 1st page with a your writing. then u can print the rest. last time computer is rare.. printing in unique. nowdays everyone prints. u need to stand out. use your handwriting and write neetly. good luck QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 15 2006, 01:38 AM) ermm....sorry to pop the excitement here..... hmm.. means the opportunity has closed upon me??? currently MAS and Air Asia has temporarily stopped their cadet pilot program because there's something funny between them since this year. MAS is currently deciding whether to sell their planes with their cadet pilots as a package to Air Asia and the hold-up is due to the gov has not decided yet and with a promise of more domestic routes for Air Asia. yes, MAS is lack of experienced pilots and not fresh cadet pilots coz they've just got 300 new cadet pilots but not enough routes/planes for them. got the news from my friend who is going to graduate this july....... i have a training mate.. going to australia next month.. self-sponsored.. around RM200k... envious of him.. This post has been edited by boringpig: May 15 2006, 02:36 PM |
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May 20 2006, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(boringpig @ May 15 2006, 02:34 PM) hmm.. means the opportunity has closed upon me??? True AllnGap say..... But still MAS take many people for psychomotor test and make them wait after MISPA..... Dunnoe for what..... But MAS nids for pilot will be there always lar as the wages for MAS pilot is dam low..... If you can wait then no harm send ur resume...... Go go go!!! i have a training mate.. going to australia next month.. self-sponsored.. around RM200k... envious of him..  |
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May 20 2006, 08:01 AM
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lol.... i just heard from someone that MAS is stilll resuming their psychomotors... LOL....
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May 21 2006, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(AiRseaL @ May 20 2006, 12:02 AM) True AllnGap say..... But still MAS take many people for psychomotor test and make them wait after MISPA..... Dunnoe for what..... But MAS nids for pilot will be there always lar as the wages for MAS pilot is dam low..... If you can wait then no harm send ur resume...... Go go go!!! actually i've sent .. like 3 times already.. do u think i should send again? hah.. later the receptionist get annoyed.. actually what kinda documents did u guys sent? i sent in my resume, spm, testimonial (secondary school one), photocopied i/c, photo and unrelated degree certs.. need cover letter? |
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May 21 2006, 10:17 AM
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Those who have university degree pls try SIA. you have high chances of being selected for the interview. SIA is in need of many pilots and recruiting aggressively. They advertised in the whole SEA region up until India and Sabah/Sarawak. Every week, there are interviews for thousands of applicants. Right now, the interview reached Penang and today is the final day. The next stop is Sabah/Sarawak
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May 21 2006, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(boringpig @ May 21 2006, 02:21 AM) actually i've sent .. like 3 times already.. do u think i should send again? hah.. later the receptionist get annoyed.. Wow.. 3 times.. actually what kinda documents did u guys sent? i sent in my resume, spm, testimonial (secondary school one), photocopied i/c, photo and unrelated degree certs.. need cover letter?  Actually I think sending one time is enuf d.. if u aint got any news u shud give up d... Anyway, still good luck to u |
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May 21 2006, 03:59 PM
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heheheheh better send more cause u never know wheter the three previous arrived at their hand or not
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May 21 2006, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(boringpig @ May 21 2006, 02:21 AM) actually i've sent .. like 3 times already.. do u think i should send again? hah.. later the receptionist get annoyed.. If u really like it. Just keep on sending. Because they get 2000-7000 applications. Yeah send in all those stuff. And also a cover letter. Like i said before, with ur own handwriting ro make ur latter stand out. They dont want to see another printed letter. They all look the same and boring. Some pilots repeted the psychmotor more than 6 times. And some send more than 20 applications. actually what kinda documents did u guys sent? i sent in my resume, spm, testimonial (secondary school one), photocopied i/c, photo and unrelated degree certs.. need cover letter? (source: MAS human resource) This post has been edited by koopa: May 21 2006, 10:20 PM |
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May 23 2006, 01:20 AM
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my frenz juz get da letter frm mas...and he go for da 1st interview...he pass...now waiting for 2nd interview....
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May 23 2006, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ May 21 2006, 03:59 PM) heheheheh better send more cause u never know wheter the three previous arrived at their hand or not that was what i was thinking.. u know some of our postmen right? |
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May 23 2006, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(elaineliew88 @ May 23 2006, 01:20 AM) my frenz juz get da letter frm mas...and he go for da 1st interview...he pass...now waiting for 2nd interview.... many ppl did pass the 1st interview. but it takes forever for the 2nd interview call-up. and it's not looking good at the moment. STAR reported today that MAS is retrenching 5000 staffsThis post has been edited by hoongji: May 23 2006, 10:41 AM |
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May 23 2006, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(elaineliew88 @ May 23 2006, 01:20 AM) my frenz juz get da letter frm mas...and he go for da 1st interview...he pass...now waiting for 2nd interview.... Psychomotor is piece of cake.Now the waiting game starts, there is no time limit as to when you'll be called for the psychometric test. And even those who completed it in December 2005 havent receive reply yet. This post has been edited by DeathWing: May 23 2006, 01:28 PM |
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May 23 2006, 09:22 PM
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Mine was diff, when i passed my psychomotor,they instantly gave me a letter after the test in the waiting room stating the date for the psychometric test,that was around a year ago.
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May 23 2006, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(tl007 @ May 23 2006, 09:22 PM) Mine was diff, when i passed my psychomotor,they instantly gave me a letter after the test in the waiting room stating the date for the psychometric test,that was around a year ago. that was last time. this time around, so many passed the psychomotor and put on waiting list. with the addition of current downsizing and frozen intake issues, the wait is forever. in fact some applied for SIA and already passed the final interview while the MAS offer letter is nowhere to be seen after half a year. |
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May 26 2006, 01:15 AM
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for those thinking of getting into Air Asia,
i have just received an email from AA saying that applications for CADET Pilot will reopen in 2007. |
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May 26 2006, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ May 26 2006, 01:15 AM) for those thinking of getting into Air Asia, wah need 2 wait so long........ i have just received an email from AA saying that applications for CADET Pilot will reopen in 2007. |
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May 26 2006, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ May 26 2006, 01:15 AM) for those thinking of getting into Air Asia, lol.. where do i need to send my application??i have just received an email from AA saying that applications for CADET Pilot will reopen in 2007. |
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May 26 2006, 09:35 PM
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aspiring pilots,
do visit www.askcaptainlim.com. it has all the info you need to be a pilot. you can also visit the forum there. it has all the regional airlines section where aspiring and real pilots share their views and infos on the latest recruitment. all the best in your pursuit of you dream. |
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May 26 2006, 10:30 PM
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Actually got offered by SIA last year ... but rejected it. Reasons :
- Want to be closer to my love ones. Previously was working as a marketting executive after my STPM, all the while outstation and felt bad for my love ones when they needed me. Did earn like RM3-4k a month ,but I family is more important to me. - Looking for something more challenging ... flying will be very challenging for the first 5 years, after some thinking , I feel that its just a routine job after that. - Just accepted an offer from petronas to resume my career in electrical and electronics field .... aready completed 1 semester that time , didn't want to waste it. And I've got a princip in life which is I do not do things half-way. Well that's just me .... different people have different way of thinking. Flying was my dream and I worked hard for it Btw , to those of you .... just send in your resume to SIA and MAS, pilots are in high demand with the growth of airlines company. Actually, lotsa pilot from MAS resigned and is now working with airliners at saudi arab (don't know what airline) , that's partly why they want to hire more pilots. Actually you guys can also study privately .... there's a school in malacca , Malaysian Flying Acedemy (MFA) which offer courses to get your flying license for private and commercial. The whole course cost bout RM160k (now not very sure cause petrol price increased), if you would want to save more , you can go to a zenneth (don't remember the spelling) flying school which is at subang airport to get your private flying license and then only go to MFA to get your commercial flying license. about job opportunities , I don't think there's a problem since the demand of pilot is high. If you can get a bond .... its much better then. Well since I still have passion to fly .... I'll definetly get a private flying license in the future Good Luck to you guys out there !!! |
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May 26 2006, 10:36 PM
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like ignn_tion said, it takes a lot of sacrifice to be a pilot.
if you have big commitments like GF and wife, then it will be tough for you. |
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May 26 2006, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 21 2006, 02:17 AM) Those who have university degree pls try SIA. you have high chances of being selected for the interview. SIA is in need of many pilots and recruiting aggressively. They advertised in the whole SEA region up until India and Sabah/Sarawak. Every week, there are interviews for thousands of applicants. Right now, the interview reached Penang and today is the final day. The next stop is Sabah/Sarawak Hi there. Would you mind telling me the advantages of an applicant applying for the job with a degree as opposed to one who goes for trainning right after highschool?Thank you |
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May 26 2006, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ May 26 2006, 10:58 PM) Hi there. Would you mind telling me the advantages of an applicant applying for the job with a degree as opposed to one who goes for trainning right after highschool? the minimum entry to SIA is a degree or diploma now. only in rare cases they will select high school leavers. and the age preference is 23-25. this is because singaporeans can only join SIA at the age of 26Thank you |
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May 26 2006, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 26 2006, 03:15 PM) the minimum entry to SIA is a degree or diploma now. only in rare cases they will select high school leavers. and the age preference is 23-25. this is because singaporeans can only join SIA at the age of 26 Wow... looks like if I were to apply, I would stand a good chance of being selected. What happens if you're selected? Trainnig obviosly, but where do you stay? Are you paid?Edited to say that I got this info online. Sorry for asking such a simple question. This post has been edited by INFeRNO: May 26 2006, 11:52 PM |
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May 27 2006, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ May 26 2006, 11:31 PM) Wow... looks like if I were to apply, I would stand a good chance of being selected. What happens if you're selected? Trainnig obviosly, but where do you stay? Are you paid? i have no idea life as a SIA cadet pilot as i will only start my training on the 23rd June. but what i can tell you is full boarding and lodging will be provided.Edited to say that I got this info online. Sorry for asking such a simple question. first 6 months in Seletar, Singapore. will be paid allowance of SGD1200 further 1 and half year training in Perth and Brisbane. will be paid allowance of SGD1900 (only during advance and type conversion training) upon graduation and becoming SO (second officer), will be paid a basic of SGD2200 + various allowances upon promotion to FO (first officer), will be paid basic of SGD5000-9000 + various allowances from what i heard, SO to FO takes about 6months to a year |
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May 27 2006, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 26 2006, 12:09 PM) i have no idea life as a SIA cadet pilot as i will only start my training on the 23rd June. but what i can tell you is full boarding and lodging will be provided. so r u going to be in course 121first 6 months in Seletar, Singapore. will be paid allowance of SGD1200 further 1 and half year training in Perth and Brisbane. will be paid allowance of SGD1900 (only during advance and type conversion training) upon graduation and becoming SO (second officer), will be paid a basic of SGD2200 + various allowances upon promotion to FO (first officer), will be paid basic of SGD5000-9000 + various allowances from what i heard, SO to FO takes about 6months to a year |
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May 27 2006, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 27 2006, 09:30 AM) so r u going to be in course 121 OBS on the 23rd.you mean batch 121? i think i'm in that batch Supreme Allied Commander: you are in one batch earlier than mine? i think we will meet in the future. looking forward to that This post has been edited by hoongji: May 27 2006, 09:50 AM |
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May 27 2006, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 26 2006, 09:42 PM) OBS on the 23rd. july is my ATPL, probably will be initaiting u. Where u guys going, ubin or lumut? ?you mean batch 121? i think i'm in that batch Supreme Allied Commander: you are in one batch earlier than mine? i think we will meet in the future. looking forward to that |
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May 27 2006, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 27 2006, 09:57 AM) july is my ATPL, probably will be initaiting u. Where u guys going, ubin or lumut? ? i think in Ubin. becos we have to fly to singapore on 21st, briefing on 22nd and 23rd is the OBS already.so when are you leaving to Jandakot, Perth? This post has been edited by hoongji: May 27 2006, 10:31 AM |
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May 27 2006, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 26 2006, 10:30 PM) i think in Ubin. becos we have to fly to singapore on 21st, briefing on 22nd and 23rd is the OBS already. august hopefully if if pass everything lol. It should say in one of the papers whether u rgoing to ubin or lumut. For ubin, prepare to do a 2.4 km run twice a day, and probably by the time u reach ur 21st day u'll be doing a 15km.so when are you leaving to Jandakot, Perth? This post has been edited by Supreme Allied Commander: May 27 2006, 10:58 AM |
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May 27 2006, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 27 2006, 10:51 AM) august hopefully if if pass everything lol ok. see you in singapore if you still there. or will meet you in jandakot in half a year later. all the best |
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May 27 2006, 09:33 PM
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hoongji... just be very careful during OBS....
most get kicked out from there. anyway.. CONGRATULATIONS to all you LUCKY BRATS!!! lol... i'm 19.. with Yr-12 results... SIa no reply. MAS... waiting for MISPA results.. Air asia no recutiing until 2007. lol.. ended up enrolling in HMA. starting training this year.... you lucky BRATS!! cna get job.. i'm still worried .. |
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May 27 2006, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ May 27 2006, 09:33 PM) lol.. ended up enrolling in HMA. starting training this year.... sorry.. what's a HMA?  |
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May 27 2006, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ May 27 2006, 09:33 PM) hoongji... just be very careful during OBS.... a senior shared his experience with us during the final interview. he said there is no grading during the OBS. it is meant to build up teamwork and self-determination.most get kicked out from there. anyway.. CONGRATULATIONS to all you LUCKY BRATS!!! lol... i'm 19.. with Yr-12 results... SIa no reply. MAS... waiting for MISPA results.. Air asia no recutiing until 2007. lol.. ended up enrolling in HMA. starting training this year.... you lucky BRATS!! cna get job.. i'm still worried .. |
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May 27 2006, 10:29 PM
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heya heya
Great work there hoonji, Get excited and start shopping for lots of useless stuff Nah, the real eliminating session is phase 1 in Seletar. That's where your flying aptitude really shows. Some instructor told me this, "some are born to fly, others learn to fly, the rest stays on the ground." So make every flying hour counts. |
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May 27 2006, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(boringpig @ May 27 2006, 01:46 PM) sorry.. what's a HMA? HM AreospaceBTW hoongji, how old are you? |
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May 27 2006, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ May 27 2006, 11:13 PM) i'm already 25. a bit too old to start |
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May 27 2006, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ May 27 2006, 10:29 AM) heya heya yeap thats the suckiest part u have to go thru. Couple of my frens got chopped already bcoz of poor flying aptiude. And then comes the ATPL.Great work there hoonji, Get excited and start shopping for lots of useless stuff Nah, the real eliminating session is phase 1 in Seletar. That's where your flying aptitude really shows. Some instructor told me this, "some are born to fly, others learn to fly, the rest stays on the ground." So make every flying hour counts. |
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May 27 2006, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 27 2006, 11:20 PM) yeap thats the suckiest part u have to go thru. Couple of my frens got chopped already bcoz of poor flying aptiude. And then comes the ATPL. may i know, poor in ground studies or flying? |
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May 27 2006, 11:23 PM
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mig 29 major here!
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May 27 2006, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 27 2006, 11:22 AM) may i know, poor in ground studies or flying? Flying. I dunno what happen to them, from what i heard this guy actually froze up when he was on the air. like dont know what to do when something needs to be done. I forgot to ask r u pax or cargo or saThis post has been edited by Supreme Allied Commander: May 27 2006, 11:27 PM |
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May 27 2006, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 27 2006, 11:26 PM) Flying. I dunno what happen to them, from what i heard this guy actually froze up when he was on the air. like dont know what to do when something needs to be done maybe phobia of height and G-forces.say, have you done HASEL already? it must be the most challenging part i guess edit: i'm PAX. but will never know where they will assign me after graduate This post has been edited by hoongji: May 27 2006, 11:29 PM |
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May 27 2006, 11:29 PM
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LOL u mean hasell checks, that was long time ago man. The fun part comes when u have somebody shouting at u from ur right side and there u r trying to control the plane lol.
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May 27 2006, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 27 2006, 11:29 PM) LOL u mean hasell checks, that was long time ago man. The fun part comes when u have somebody shouting at u from ur right side and there u r trying to control the plane lol. LOL..who shouts at you? the instructor or your buddies?the acrobatic moves are the most fun and challenging at the same time. how bout crosswind landings? |
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May 27 2006, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 27 2006, 11:31 AM) LOL..who shouts at you? the instructor or your buddies? lol the instructors man. Crosswind landings not much, cause singapore where got strong winds. Crosswind landings will be done in jandokot and u can ask MR death wing, he probably knows more than methe acrobatic moves are the most fun and challenging at the same time. how bout crosswind landings? |
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May 27 2006, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 27 2006, 11:35 PM) lol the instructors man. Crosswind landings not much, cause singapore where got strong winds. Crosswind landings will be done in jandokot and u can ask MR death wing, he probably knows more than me you must be pulling very hard Gs until the instructor shouts like that.is deathwing in SIA as well? btw, i'm in SIA PAX |
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May 27 2006, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 27 2006, 11:37 AM) you must be pulling very hard Gs until the instructor shouts like that. No they will pick on ur slightest mistake and u know up there everything is different and we werent born with cessnas in our backyard. THey just wanna see how well u react to this kind of environment. So how many malaysians this time ?is deathwing in SIA as well? btw, i'm in SIA PAX |
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May 27 2006, 11:42 PM
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4 singaporeans, 5 malaysians
another 5 malaysians pending medical and MOM clearance |
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May 27 2006, 11:45 PM
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ok i'll pm u
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May 27 2006, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 27 2006, 11:45 PM) ok i'll pm u i didn't receive any PM |
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May 28 2006, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 27 2006, 03:19 PM) i'm already 25. a bit too old to start I don't think there is such a thing as too old to start anything |
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May 28 2006, 12:31 AM
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phew.... finally finish browsing thru 11 pages...
im doing my form4 this yr, and i plan to join mas or sia nex yr... mas is more likely, coz according to u all, sia is quite hard (considering that i wanna join right after i finish my high school).. my eye vision is not perfect, but close to perfect need to do a check up when im free... juz wanna ask something... on what aspect sia will select new cadets? academic or co-curicular?... is there anything else..? i have perfect scores for my upsr and pmr, and currently im working very hard for my spm... coz i think that i really need to do well in spm to be above the rest... anything that i shud start worrying now if i wanna be a pilot? and yeah, i play fs2004 a lot |
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May 28 2006, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(swhung @ May 28 2006, 12:31 AM) phew.... finally finish browsing thru 11 pages... currently for SIA, they tend to prefer degree/diploma holders. that is only for the selection for 1st interview.im doing my form4 this yr, and i plan to join mas or sia nex yr... mas is more likely, coz according to u all, sia is quite hard (considering that i wanna join right after i finish my high school).. my eye vision is not perfect, but close to perfect need to do a check up when im free... juz wanna ask something... on what aspect sia will select new cadets? academic or co-curicular?... is there anything else..? i have perfect scores for my upsr and pmr, and currently im working very hard for my spm... coz i think that i really need to do well in spm to be above the rest... anything that i shud start worrying now if i wanna be a pilot? and yeah, i play fs2004 a lot the final interview will be more to attitude and aptitude. perfect academic results do not hold much weight. the interviewers are looking for a person that can project good attitude and character during the tough interview sessions. |
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May 28 2006, 12:37 AM
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ouch...
one noob question... what kind of degree are they looking? |
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May 28 2006, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(swhung @ May 28 2006, 12:37 AM) ouch... no specific preference.one noob question... what kind of degree are they looking? during my final interview, we have business degree holders as well |
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May 28 2006, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 28 2006, 12:39 AM) no specific preference. wow... so if i want to do a degree, what should i take?during my final interview, we have business degree holders as well edit: wanna ask what's urs... This post has been edited by swhung: May 28 2006, 12:41 AM |
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May 28 2006, 12:40 AM
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in febuary i've met and spoke to the SIA chief pilot ( and person who choose ppl) . he said the safest way is to get at lease 5 credits in spm, go for diploma or degree in any courses, go melaka for the flight training or so, then only u try to apply for SIA. The chances might be better. and this is what he advise for those who want to join SIA. Currently SIA are getting alot of malaysian to join SIA.
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May 28 2006, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(honkit @ May 28 2006, 12:40 AM) in febuary i've met and spoke to the SIA chief pilot ( and person who choose ppl) . he said the safest way is to get at lease 5 credits in spm, go for diploma or degree in any courses, go melaka for the flight training or so, then only u try to apply for SIA. The chances might be better. and this is what he advise for those who want to join SIA. Currently SIA are getting alot of malaysian to join SIA. i would like to add, working experience will be an added advantage as well |
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May 28 2006, 12:46 AM
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oh ok... got it...
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May 28 2006, 02:49 AM
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i'm just wondering..
SIA REcognizes MFA, but not HMA? |
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May 28 2006, 07:59 AM
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May 28 2006, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(honkit @ May 28 2006, 12:40 AM) in febuary i've met and spoke to the SIA chief pilot ( and person who choose ppl) . he said the safest way is to get at lease 5 credits in spm, go for diploma or degree in any courses, go melaka for the flight training or so, then only u try to apply for SIA. The chances might be better. and this is what he advise for those who want to join SIA. Currently SIA are getting alot of malaysian to join SIA. heheWe all know that. But the flight training part is a bit not true. The HR guy told me they prefer fresh 0 experience candidates because they want us start alike and dont want us to accumulate bad flying habits. In other words, they hate GA pilots unless you've got lots of hours in the log book. Academic performance does count. One of the dude in my batch got Full A for his STPM and was selected for the 1st interview. From there on, degree or no degree doesnt make a big difference. BTW, I think SIA recognizes all academy with ICAO signatory. The problem is that a fresh grad with 300 hours will still need to go through the cadet pilot selection. |
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May 28 2006, 12:42 PM
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deathwing...
because from what i heard... there are only two places.. MFA in Malaka and Massey in NZ. if you trained in these two places... when you go for SIA cadet pilot, you can skip the Basic training phase and jump training in to the LearJet Course. |
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May 28 2006, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ May 28 2006, 11:27 AM) hehe We all know that. But the flight training part is a bit not true. The HR guy told me they prefer fresh 0 experience candidates because they want us start alike and dont want us to accumulate bad flying habits. In other words, they hate GA pilots unless you've got lots of hours in the log book. Academic performance does count. One of the dude in my batch got Full A for his STPM and was selected for the 1st interview. From there on, degree or no degree doesnt make a big difference. BTW, I think SIA recognizes all academy with ICAO signatory. The problem is that a fresh grad with 300 hours will still need to go through the cadet pilot selection. QUOTE(fillet @ May 28 2006, 12:42 PM) deathwing... yup, u can jump basic training in SIA. actually as what deathwing says they wants fresh candidates are true also. but the chances of joininig them very hard to say because SIA need to invest alot of money in you. for those who have already had some flight training, chances are higher. when they selected you, go for 300++ hours (not sure) of training then you can start working already. Faster!because from what i heard... there are only two places.. MFA in Malaka and Massey in NZ. if you trained in these two places... when you go for SIA cadet pilot, you can skip the Basic training phase and jump training in to the LearJet Course. |
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May 28 2006, 04:15 PM
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Why do pilots use ICAO airport codes when the airports themselves use IATA 3 letter codes?
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May 28 2006, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(honkit @ May 28 2006, 03:57 PM) yup, u can jump basic training in SIA. actually as what deathwing says they wants fresh candidates are true also. but the chances of joininig them very hard to say because SIA need to invest alot of money in you. for those who have already had some flight training, chances are higher. when they selected you, go for 300++ hours (not sure) of training then you can start working already. Faster! haha,you can put your worries aside, SIA has one of the largest budget allocated for crew training in the entire aviation industry. Like I said, cadets = fresh. QUOTE(INFeRNO @ May 28 2006, 04:15 PM) Why do pilots use ICAO airport codes when the airports themselves use IATA 3 letter codes? Not really, it depends on what kind of purpose the code is used for. Different occasion or different country, different code. The IATA codes are still more popular among mass public, that's why they're still used extensively especially when giving information to the public. But ICAO codes are definitely gaining momentum. |
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May 28 2006, 10:55 PM
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Some become instructors in MFA to gain hours for SIA and other airlines.
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May 29 2006, 04:42 AM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ May 28 2006, 02:32 PM) haha, How often do they conduct intakes? I didn't see any dates on their career site.you can put your worries aside, SIA has one of the largest budget allocated for crew training in the entire aviation industry. Like I said, cadets = fresh. |
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May 29 2006, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ May 29 2006, 04:42 AM) How often do they conduct intakes? I didn't see any dates on their career site. you dont wait for the date. you just send in your application and try your luck.it was advertised in newspaper 2-3 months ago and the KL/Penang interviews already over. now it's headed to Sabah/Sarawak and later will be in China as well. |
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May 29 2006, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 29 2006, 04:26 AM) you dont wait for the date. you just send in your application and try your luck. That's dissapointing news indeed. I guess I'll have to wait until next year.it was advertised in newspaper 2-3 months ago and the KL/Penang interviews already over. now it's headed to Sabah/Sarawak and later will be in China as well. |
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May 29 2006, 09:33 PM
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pity guy..i seems rely hard..
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May 30 2006, 02:13 AM
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Hi guys, I came across this advertisement SCHOLARSHIP FOR INTERNATIONAL COMMERCIAL AIRLINE PILOT CADETS. Does it mean that those with a frozen ATPL only can apply or are they recruiting potential fresh cadet pilot? Anyone can confirm this? So, where else can we apply as a cadet pilot other than MAS and SIA. Thanks in advance!!!!
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May 30 2006, 08:00 AM
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i wonder SIA will have another intake session again this year....
wanted to send in for the april interview but was unprepared. a friend of mine in Air Asia and is training now in Malacca got delayed for 4months while another friend in MAS training in Langkawi got delayed for another 5 months. what's up with the two companies man and btw, the company looks kinda fishy |
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May 30 2006, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 30 2006, 08:00 AM) i wonder SIA will have another intake session again this year.... there's no harm sending in your application first. if you dont get reply in 2 months, send again. i'm pretty there will be another intake for malaysians end of the year.wanted to send in for the april interview but was unprepared. a friend of mine in Air Asia and is training now in Malacca got delayed for 4months while another friend in MAS training in Langkawi got delayed for another 5 months. what's up with the two companies man and btw, the company looks kinda fishy right now, the batches are only separated by 1-1.5 month apart. meaning that there are new intakes every month |
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May 30 2006, 11:46 AM
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hoongji,
they will let you knw which field to enroll immediatly once u passed the interview? i mean pax or cargo |
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May 30 2006, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(teddie @ May 30 2006, 11:46 AM) hoongji, i put my preference during the first interview. since i have not receive my hardcopy contract documents, i cannot tell which i'm in.they will let you knw which field to enroll immediatly once u passed the interview? i mean pax or cargo however, i do know all of us will be going through the same training. and our posting will be determined by the management once we graduated based on demand. "supreme allied commander" and "deathwing" might be able to shed more light in this. |
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May 30 2006, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 30 2006, 01:47 AM) there's no harm sending in your application first. if you dont get reply in 2 months, send again. i'm pretty there will be another intake for malaysians end of the year. Is there anyone I can write to or email to find out whether or not they will be conducting another interview session this year?right now, the batches are only separated by 1-1.5 month apart. meaning that there are new intakes every month |
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May 30 2006, 07:41 PM
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If im from arts stream will they still accept me? But i graduated with bachelors in IT and also doing MSc so will they still accept me even though i have no pure science subjects?
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May 30 2006, 08:12 PM
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BTW.. that company in the AD.......
well.. it means that they take freshie and train them until fATPL. and then , they'll arrange you to work with some company for 3-5 years... sounds like some Agency to me... airlines source pilots from them.. and they sort of lease the pilots they train to airlines ... anyway.. sounds .... FISHY This post has been edited by fillet: May 30 2006, 08:13 PM |
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May 31 2006, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ May 30 2006, 08:12 PM) BTW.. that company in the AD....... i'm not sure abt is that a con, last time they are having this programme too, published in newspaper abt they having vacancy but when i reached the institute, they say they have no job offering but they do provide some courses.well.. it means that they take freshie and train them until fATPL. and then , they'll arrange you to work with some company for 3-5 years... sounds like some Agency to me... airlines source pilots from them.. and they sort of lease the pilots they train to airlines ... anyway.. sounds .... FISHY |
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May 31 2006, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(khsj @ May 30 2006, 07:41 PM) If im from arts stream will they still accept me? But i graduated with bachelors in IT and also doing MSc so will they still accept me even though i have no pure science subjects? You need at least a combined science subject to be eligible. But no harm trying right? As for the blahblahblah company, I seriously doubt they will be able to land you an airline job upon graduation. And if they require you to submit the so called registration fees or blahblahblah, bail out immediately. |
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May 31 2006, 01:13 AM
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yes, last time they asked me to pay 20k 1st, after the 1st phase studies and if i passed the test with excellent result, they will provide me full scholarship and give me back my 20k, and i bailing out immediatly as i felt it is harmful to me if throwing the 20k to gamble my future. But so far, we didn't accept any complain from others.
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May 31 2006, 07:07 AM
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hoongji, u noe how many cadet pilot were selected in ur batch?
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May 31 2006, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(phonar @ May 31 2006, 07:07 AM) hoongji, u noe how many cadet pilot were selected in ur batch? i will let you know when i start my training next month. it should be around 10-16ppl |
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Jun 1 2006, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ May 28 2006, 12:36 AM) currently for SIA, they tend to prefer degree/diploma holders. that is only for the selection for 1st interview. Where will the interview be held? and how much u have to pay ah?the final interview will be more to attitude and aptitude. perfect academic results do not hold much weight. the interviewers are looking for a person that can project good attitude and character during the tough interview sessions. |
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Jun 1 2006, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(khsj @ Jun 1 2006, 12:30 PM) Where will the interview be held? and how much u have to pay ah? 1st interviews were held in Kl and Penang recently. and now moving on to Sabah/Sarawak and also HongKong. only applicants selected will be notified to attend the 1st interview. you only need to bear the eye-test cost where you'll have to do it before the interview.the final interview will be held in Singapore for 4 days (American Idol anyone?). all flight and accomodation cost will be born by SIA. you only need to pay for your food. |
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Jun 2 2006, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jun 1 2006, 03:34 PM) 1st interviews were held in Kl and Penang recently. and now moving on to Sabah/Sarawak and also HongKong. only applicants selected will be notified to attend the 1st interview. you only need to bear the eye-test cost where you'll have to do it before the interview. So if i would to apply now...i will have to wait till they come back to penang?the final interview will be held in Singapore for 4 days (American Idol anyone?). all flight and accomodation cost will be born by SIA. you only need to pay for your food. |
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Jun 2 2006, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(tam_ironcup @ Jun 2 2006, 12:47 PM) i have a q, can a person wearing spectacles be a pilot YES you can. make your move now. |
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Jun 3 2006, 12:39 PM
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definately a YES
but depneds on your DEGREE of correction, go get a class-1 medical check now |
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Jun 7 2006, 11:41 AM
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lol... this thread i dying...................
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Jun 7 2006, 02:02 PM
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some pics to spice up the thread and to spur the interest
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Jun 7 2006, 04:30 PM
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 Spy at the 777 sim  747 at Subang hangar This post has been edited by koopa: Jun 7 2006, 04:32 PM |
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Jun 7 2006, 05:06 PM
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Those simulators look expensive... I wonder if it's possible to simulate a loop in there..?
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Jun 7 2006, 05:29 PM
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Sure if u dont stall the 777 in the 1st place. lol. I think one sim costs from RM50m-200m. Theres a reverved place for the A380 sim. Ill snap a pic later.
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Jun 7 2006, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 7 2006, 05:29 PM) Sure if u dont stall the 777 in the 1st place. lol. I think one sim costs from RM50m-200m. Theres a reverved place for the A380 sim. Ill snap a pic later. no camera restrictions in there? |
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Jun 7 2006, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jun 7 2006, 07:11 PM) no camera restrictions in there? Of course u need a security pass to get in |
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Jun 7 2006, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 7 2006, 07:16 PM) Of course u need a security pass to get in i have not seen a real simulator b4. i wonder how is the graphics projected on the screens as compared to MS flight sim on our computer |
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Jun 7 2006, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jun 7 2006, 07:21 PM) i have not seen a real simulator b4. i wonder how is the graphics projected on the screens as compared to MS flight sim on our computer  If u look closely u can see the runway |
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Jun 7 2006, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 7 2006, 07:31 PM) If u look closely u can see the runway the terrain is so plain |
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Jun 7 2006, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 7 2006, 09:29 AM) Sure if u dont stall the 777 in the 1st place. lol. I think one sim costs from RM50m-200m. Theres a reverved place for the A380 sim. Ill snap a pic later. A boeing test pilot did a real life loop-de-loop at a airshow a long time ago with a 707. Comercial aircraft can perform inverted flight, they just can't sustain it. |
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Jun 7 2006, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ Jun 7 2006, 08:20 PM) A boeing test pilot did a real life loop-de-loop at a airshow a long time ago with a 707. Comercial aircraft can perform inverted flight, they just can't sustain it. That's not always the case.If the fuel system is unable to work under inverted condition. The engines will be starved, on some older planes where the primary flight surface backup hydraulics are very limited, I'm sure you cant turn it back to normal attitude. TTATA! You've got an inverted plane falling like a rock onto the ground. |
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Jun 7 2006, 08:59 PM
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Well, if you go to youtube.com, you'll be able to see an airbus A380 do an inverted flight as well. I don't think the engines get starved so quickly (if that's how you say it).
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Jun 7 2006, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ Jun 7 2006, 08:59 PM) Well, if you go to youtube.com, you'll be able to see an airbus A380 do an inverted flight as well. I don't think the engines get starved so quickly (if that's how you say it). Show me the link, I would like to see that... kekekAnyway, we have been told not to try it. It will be a serious offence even for the simulator. |
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Jun 7 2006, 09:48 PM
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Jun 7 2006, 10:37 PM
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it is suicidal to do inverted flight on commercial planes even some are possible.
we wouldn't want the passengers and stewardess to land on their heads right? anyway, let's try it on the MS flight sim instead. last time i tried, my plane ended up stalling and overstressed even b4 i managed to turn upside down |
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Jun 8 2006, 12:34 AM
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Here is a link to the first ever passenger class aircraft to do a loop. It wasn't a production 707 as I had assumed. Anyways, you can read about it.
http://www.historylink.org/output.cfm?file_id=390 And hoongji, I don't think any sane person would try to do a loop with either cargo or passengers in the fuselage. |
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Jun 9 2006, 12:14 PM
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hoongji,how many times did you actually send your resume before they replied.....
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Jun 9 2006, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(tatayoung @ Jun 9 2006, 12:14 PM) hoongji,how many times did you actually send your resume before they replied..... i only sent once. replied one month later.there's an average of 2-3 intakes a year. one intake will be after the annual career talk in signapore (december). another one or two intakes will be sometime later in march, april or may. you have to check the press for their recruitment ad. then only you send your application. if you send outside the recruitment time window, most probably your application will be backlogged |
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Jun 9 2006, 01:46 PM
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 Sorry i forgot to take the A380 sim place. I replace with this instead. The pic is a lil bit blur coz my hp dosent have the anti-shake thing. add: Johor Approach VOR/ILS Runway 16. U can see the Localizer and Glideslope at the First Officer's EADI. This post has been edited by koopa: Jun 9 2006, 01:49 PM |
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Jun 9 2006, 06:33 PM
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is there any MLS landing practice on the sim?
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Jun 9 2006, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jun 9 2006, 06:33 PM) is there any MLS landing practice on the sim? I dont think the one in the pic has MLS its a 15 years old sim. Even the FMC is v5. The new ones are equipt with MLS. But only if u choose some europe airport. |
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Jun 10 2006, 02:55 AM
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some insider information on HMA, from the Cedets themselves
currently, Batch 1 has graduated. Batch 2-12 are in, there are currently 230 students in the school. Batch 2 is graduating soon, HMA doesn't have enough planes and instructors, so for certain batches, they are sent to Kota Bharu to train. in HMA, you get 180 Actual Flight Time, and 20 simulator hours with Full-glass cockpit experience. and DISCIPLINE is tight there.......... i've been there, saw the Principal, CI, CGI, nice chaps i would say,..... but i believe they will be full till 2008. also, they are STILL receiving MAS Cadets !!This post has been edited by fillet: Jun 10 2006, 02:58 AM |
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Jun 10 2006, 11:56 PM
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May I know what's the salary for a fresh graduated pilot ?
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Jun 11 2006, 12:18 AM
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for SIA,
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Jun 11 2006, 02:16 AM
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Off topic a little..
for Malaysian DCA Class-1, the initial Medical required an opthalmologist check in Tun hussein onn eye hospital, what about renewals? anyone have any ideas? |
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Jun 11 2006, 02:44 AM
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Jun 11 2006, 09:51 AM
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my friend from AK will come out from FMA this July or August and he has to find himself a job for around 4-5month until 2007 because AK will not be providing salary for them during the period.....
what is happening man ?? hoongji : remember to log-in to LYN once in a while after you're in the industry okie ?? crap....i'm way too unfit by SIA's standards This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jun 11 2006, 09:54 AM |
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jun 10 2006, 02:55 AM) some insider information on HMA, from the Cedets themselves copy paste:currently, Batch 1 has graduated. Batch 2-12 are in, there are currently 230 students in the school. Batch 2 is graduating soon, HMA doesn't have enough planes and instructors, so for certain batches, they are sent to Kota Bharu to train. in HMA, you get 180 Actual Flight Time, and 20 simulator hours with Full-glass cockpit experience. and DISCIPLINE is tight there.......... i've been there, saw the Principal, CI, CGI, nice chaps i would say,..... but i believe they will be full till 2008. also, they are STILL receiving MAS Cadets !!Beside having offered MSS to some 6000 current employees including pilots, MAS has also offered MSS to cadet pilots (batch no. 14 graduated from MFA and currently undergoing simulator training at Subang). Details of the MSS offer to cadet pilots as follows:- (1) 15 years bond will be terminated if they accept the MSS plus a token of RM 2,000 (two thousand ringgit) will be given, OR (2) if they do not accept the MSS, cadet pilots will still be bonded to 15 years and they may be assign to non-flight duties. As you can see from the above, it is a clear sign that MAS now has a pool of surplus pilots as compared to 1 to 2 years ago. This was a result of giving up the domestic routes to AirAsia and the closing down of some unprofitable international routes. It is no longer a rosy pictures for cadet pilots who are currently still undergoing training and more so for those who aspire to be cadet pilot. Having put in so much efforts and obtaining their ATPL within 16 months and now being offered the MSS is really a big DISAPPOINTMENT to the cadets. |
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Jun 11 2006, 01:58 PM
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LOL!
This is so 1994. Pilots doing steward duties are not unheard of. Guess it will be 2015 or 2016 when MAS will begin recruiting aggressively again. And the cycle begins again. |
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Jun 11 2006, 01:58 PM) LOL! really?! XDThis is so 1994. Pilots doing steward duties are not unheard of. Guess it will be 2015 or 2016 when MAS will begin recruiting aggressively again. And the cycle begins again. :x sorry for misleading you guys to 1994...edit: in 94' its also called mss? This post has been edited by akira de aimbuster: Jun 11 2006, 02:03 PM |
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Jun 11 2006, 01:48 PM) copy paste: what ?? MSS offered to cadet pilots ???Beside having offered MSS to some 6000 current employees including pilots, MAS has also offered MSS to cadet pilots (batch no. 14 graduated from MFA and currently undergoing simulator training at Subang). Details of the MSS offer to cadet pilots as follows:- (1) 15 years bond will be terminated if they accept the MSS plus a token of RM 2,000 (two thousand ringgit) will be given, OR (2) if they do not accept the MSS, cadet pilots will still be bonded to 15 years and they may be assign to non-flight duties. As you can see from the above, it is a clear sign that MAS now has a pool of surplus pilots as compared to 1 to 2 years ago. This was a result of giving up the domestic routes to AirAsia and the closing down of some unprofitable international routes. It is no longer a rosy pictures for cadet pilots who are currently still undergoing training and more so for those who aspire to be cadet pilot. Having put in so much efforts and obtaining their ATPL within 16 months and now being offered the MSS is really a big DISAPPOINTMENT to the cadets. company invested RM 170k ++ and yet they'll just let them off and have to pay them with RM 2000 ?? what kind of offer is that man ? This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jun 11 2006, 02:01 PM |
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Jun 11 2006, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Jun 11 2006, 02:01 PM) really?! XD You misunderstood me.:x sorry for misleading you guys to 1994...You're right about this MSS thing. But this is exactly what happened in 1994 when the government bailed out MAS from bankruptcy. Surplus of pilots, company on the brink of bankruptcy. |
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Jun 11 2006, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Jun 11 2006, 01:48 PM) copy paste: this was from the askcaptainlim forum. posted quite recentlyBeside having offered MSS to some 6000 current employees including pilots, MAS has also offered MSS to cadet pilots (batch no. 14 graduated from MFA and currently undergoing simulator training at Subang). Details of the MSS offer to cadet pilots as follows:- (1) 15 years bond will be terminated if they accept the MSS plus a token of RM 2,000 (two thousand ringgit) will be given, OR (2) if they do not accept the MSS, cadet pilots will still be bonded to 15 years and they may be assign to non-flight duties. As you can see from the above, it is a clear sign that MAS now has a pool of surplus pilots as compared to 1 to 2 years ago. This was a result of giving up the domestic routes to AirAsia and the closing down of some unprofitable international routes. It is no longer a rosy pictures for cadet pilots who are currently still undergoing training and more so for those who aspire to be cadet pilot. Having put in so much efforts and obtaining their ATPL within 16 months and now being offered the MSS is really a big DISAPPOINTMENT to the cadets. |
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Jun 11 2006, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Jun 11 2006, 01:58 PM) LOL! Yeah. They have te become ground stuff, sell tickets and all. They asked MAS to release them but MAS dont want to because of the bond. So some of them become steward instead, sell tickets and some we 'rented' to other airlines.This is so 1994. Pilots doing steward duties are not unheard of. Guess it will be 2015 or 2016 when MAS will begin recruiting aggressively again. And the cycle begins again. QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jun 11 2006, 02:01 PM) what ?? MSS offered to cadet pilots ??? Cadet pilot got MSS too. For RM2k. Its for formality sake. Even some 54-59 years old captains were given MSS. Thats unfair if they take that offer, they will retire in 1 year but because of the MSS they will get somewhere around RM1million-RM1.8million. company invested RM 170k ++ and yet they'll just let them off and have to pay them with RM 2000 ?? what kind of offer is that man ? The condition is "up to the company". So most likely, the senior pilots wont get the MSS. Most pilots wants the MSS because they are going to Itihad or Eirmarits anyway. (im bad at spellings) Btw, MAS 14 is not doing sim training now. They havent done their SNY yet. Not sure about SEP and performance though. This post has been edited by koopa: Jun 11 2006, 02:53 PM |
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Jun 11 2006, 11:23 PM
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hi guys..
i know wearing spec is not a problem to apply or be a pilot.. but then, do u know what is the max degree of near-sighted that can be accepted? i heard from a frd who are paying to fly in aust that max is 200+ for each eyes.. more than that, no hope aledi.. i have near-sighted (forgot near or far.. but i can't see far things) at 600+ on each eyes.. and another thing.. where do u guys had ur medical check-up and how much? what do i need to tell them what kinda checkup i want to do? thanks a lot~ |
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Jun 11 2006, 11:47 PM
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Deathwing u said "Many of the batch 13 are leaving for AirAsia." at askcaptlim.
Which batch 13 do u mean? |
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Jun 12 2006, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE([H] @ Jun 11 2006, 11:23 PM) hi guys.. hoenstly,i know wearing spec is not a problem to apply or be a pilot.. but then, do u know what is the max degree of near-sighted that can be accepted? i heard from a frd who are paying to fly in aust that max is 200+ for each eyes.. more than that, no hope aledi.. i have near-sighted (forgot near or far.. but i can't see far things) at 600+ on each eyes.. and another thing.. where do u guys had ur medical check-up and how much? what do i need to tell them what kinda checkup i want to do? thanks a lot~ US FAA doesn't impose a limit, AUS CASA doesn't impose limit,(i've no idea why malaysian doctor says there is) UK CAA, Initial:+/-5D with no more than 2D of astig, renewals:+/-8D wiht no more than 3D astig Malaysian DCA: NOT SURE, you have to visit a doctor to find out, i RECOMMEND you go to Dr. Kee From Young Newton for your class-1, a good and humble doctor. his clinic is at wisma milenia., i forgot the phone number, but u can call young newton to ask. i passed malaysian dca class-1 with -4.25D in each eye, with 1.5d of astig for both. |
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Jun 12 2006, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jun 11 2006, 01:51 AM) crap....i'm way too unfit by SIA's standards What is fit by SIA standards? |
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Jun 12 2006, 08:24 AM
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i mean i'm fat......physical fitness
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Jun 12 2006, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jun 12 2006, 02:08 AM) hoenstly, this young newton in where? i'm from KL..US FAA doesn't impose a limit, AUS CASA doesn't impose limit,(i've no idea why malaysian doctor says there is) UK CAA, Initial:+/-5D with no more than 2D of astig, renewals:+/-8D wiht no more than 3D astig Malaysian DCA: NOT SURE, you have to visit a doctor to find out, i RECOMMEND you go to Dr. Kee From Young Newton for your class-1, a good and humble doctor. his clinic is at wisma milenia., i forgot the phone number, but u can call young newton to ask. i passed malaysian dca class-1 with -4.25D in each eye, with 1.5d of astig for both. thanks! one more thing.. if i'm about to apply for cadet pilot or suddenly i hit a jackpot decided to go aust myself.. what is the differenced between those US FAA, AUS CASA, UK CAA, etc? |
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Jun 12 2006, 10:37 AM
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young newton at Wisma Milenia, opposite the Damansara Imigration.
but u must contact the doctor first, the test has to be done elsewhere at that particular clinis doesn't have the equipment for ECG, and audiogram |
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Jun 12 2006, 06:58 PM
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there is also a young newton branch in Jln Ampang, near the Jln Munshi Abdullah
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Jun 12 2006, 07:53 PM
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well....
there's two qualified Young Newton doctor to do your class-1, but actually, only Dr. Kee Peng Leong is actively doing it. he is in the New Branch, Wisma Millenia. This post has been edited by fillet: Jun 12 2006, 07:53 PM |
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Jun 13 2006, 10:18 AM
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Mas is pretty banged up in more ways than one guys,the senior pilots there are also having problems in getting their already qualified pilot children jobs,by the way,is there any way that we can try applying for Garuda or thai airlines?
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Jun 13 2006, 05:15 PM
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May I know what are the requirements to be a pilot?
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Jun 13 2006, 11:58 PM
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how much do u have to pay to do the test?
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Jun 18 2006, 06:09 PM
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I had to fish this poor thread out from the depths of page 3 of this forum...
Please show it some love! |
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Jun 18 2006, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(boringpig @ Jun 13 2006, 11:58 PM) how much do u have to pay to do the test? Which test? |
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Jun 20 2006, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 18 2006, 09:55 PM) Which test? erm, that medical checkup.. |
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Jun 21 2006, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE(boringpig @ Jun 20 2006, 05:00 PM) erm, that medical checkup.. Probaly around 300 - 500 for the 1st time becuse they need ur ECG, xray and stuff. |
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Jun 21 2006, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 21 2006, 03:07 AM) Probaly around 300 - 500 for the 1st time becuse they need ur ECG, xray and stuff. i see.. thanks for the info! |
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Jun 22 2006, 01:20 AM
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I created this blog for more info on the current status of MAS cadet intake and for those who are intrested to apply for the position. http://flydamnit.com/
Haha. I know the name is kinda funny. Anyway here is a direct link to my post about MAS news on cadet pilots intake This post has been edited by koopa: Jun 22 2006, 01:21 AM |
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Jun 22 2006, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 21 2006, 05:20 PM) I created this blog for more info on the current status of MAS cadet intake and for those who are intrested to apply for the position. http://flydamnit.com/ Brilliant idea! And I won't have to bookmark it either, since it has such a 'unique' URL... Haha. I know the name is kinda funny. Anyway here is a direct link to my post about MAS news on cadet pilots intake |
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Jun 22 2006, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ Jun 22 2006, 03:07 AM) Brilliant idea! And I won't have to bookmark it either, since it has such a 'unique' URL... Haha thanks. Im trying to create a FAQ or 'Ask Question' field so that people can ask more freely. I hope the URL ok. Owh and i just started so theres not many post yet. Hehe. |
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Jun 22 2006, 12:58 PM
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Great idea Koopa...
But good news and bad news... Good news is that it's still on, bad news is that the waiting game has started again. Well, no bad news is good news? Or no news is bad news? |
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Jun 22 2006, 02:02 PM
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Good news from me,
Private Pilots will have a good job prospect when they graduate. well.... AA is recruting fiercely.............100 A320, imagina how many pilots they need........... each plane, let's say they need 3 sets of 2-member flight crew, so each plane need 6 pilots, 100 A320 =600.. but the downside is, RM75k for Type-rating. |
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Jun 22 2006, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Jun 22 2006, 12:58 PM) Great idea Koopa... Maybe with your help i could add something about SIA. Hehe. But good news and bad news... Good news is that it's still on, bad news is that the waiting game has started again. Well, no bad news is good news? Or no news is bad news? QUOTE(fillet @ Jun 22 2006, 02:02 PM) Good news from me, Wow. Thats alot.Private Pilots will have a good job prospect when they graduate. well.... AA is recruting fiercely.............100 A320, imagina how many pilots they need........... each plane, let's say they need 3 sets of 2-member flight crew, so each plane need 6 pilots, 100 A320 =600.. but the downside is, RM75k for Type-rating. |
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Jun 22 2006, 10:39 PM
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Hoongji should be flying off tomorrow. Here's to wishing him the best of luck.
Nice guy... |
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Jun 23 2006, 06:41 AM
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Yeah, good luck man = )
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Jun 24 2006, 03:14 PM
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Hi...i new here...i'm waiting for MAS next intake, can i noe when probably the next in take will be??
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Jun 24 2006, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jun 22 2006, 02:02 PM) Good news from me, it's only good news when the MAS and Air Asia can sort out the problems with the local routes ASAP.Private Pilots will have a good job prospect when they graduate. well.... AA is recruting fiercely.............100 A320, imagina how many pilots they need........... each plane, let's say they need 3 sets of 2-member flight crew, so each plane need 6 pilots, 100 A320 =600.. but the downside is, RM75k for Type-rating. my friend from Air Asia will be jobless for 4-5months till 2007 after getting his frozen ATPL from MFA. |
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Jun 25 2006, 01:03 AM
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Are u guys in wit cadet pilot already?? Can i noe when is the next intake, i already summit the form n waiting for result
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Jun 25 2006, 11:00 AM
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Im sorry im not sure when the next intake. But last week i saw a few guys doing psychomotor.
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Jun 26 2006, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 25 2006, 11:00 AM) Im sorry im not sure when the next intake. But last week i saw a few guys doing psychomotor. haha i did psychomotor in march.. and mispa on march 29th...still waiting for answer!! QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jun 24 2006, 08:20 PM) it's only good news when the MAS and Air Asia can sort out the problems with the local routes ASAP. your friend, Air aisa sponsor?? or self-sponsored???my friend from Air Asia will be jobless for 4-5months till 2007 after getting his frozen ATPL from MFA. if self-sponsored, how many years did he sign for the training bond of his Type-rating training? This post has been edited by fillet: Jun 26 2006, 09:10 PM |
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Jun 27 2006, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jun 26 2006, 09:09 PM) haha i did psychomotor in march.. and mispa on march 29th... Good luck still waiting for answer!! |
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Jun 29 2006, 08:52 AM
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Any news on cadet intakes from either MAS or SIA?
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Jun 30 2006, 04:07 PM
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i juz heard ppl saying bout august intake, n really hope be accepted...
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Jun 30 2006, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(MunHoe @ Jun 30 2006, 04:07 PM) i juz heard ppl saying bout august intake, n really hope be accepted... LOLAugust intake? When did you do your MISPA? Good luck all aspiring pilots. |
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Jun 30 2006, 11:53 PM
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i had attend to pilot cadet interview once.. 2003.. pass the phycomoto test.. very easy.. just like play game on a very bad condition computer.. basically must able to coordinate the move of your foot and hand...
then.. went to written test.. math (easy).. physic (easy).. english(hard- if I'm not mistaken...have to read 30 articles and answer 4 questions for each article in 1 hour..) .. IQ (don't have to rush.. you can take ur own sweet time to answer).. mostly there were answer already in the question paper (previous candidate conteng)... i guess i failed during this stage... and most of the candidates are son of or uncle of a captain.. and some of them don't even went for phyomoto.. so don't harap sangat.. |
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Jul 1 2006, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(ringgostar @ Jun 30 2006, 11:53 PM) i had attend to pilot cadet interview once.. 2003.. pass the phycomoto test.. very easy.. just like play game on a very bad condition computer.. basically must able to coordinate the move of your foot and hand... I went on 2003 too. U can read my post http://flydamnit.com/2006/06/26/about-mas-psychomotor-test/then.. went to written test.. math (easy).. physic (easy).. english(hard- if I'm not mistaken...have to read 30 articles and answer 4 questions for each article in 1 hour..) .. IQ (don't have to rush.. you can take ur own sweet time to answer).. mostly there were answer already in the question paper (previous candidate conteng)... i guess i failed during this stage... and most of the candidates are son of or uncle of a captain.. and some of them don't even went for phyomoto.. so don't harap sangat.. |
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Jul 1 2006, 01:55 AM
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most of the time..
people fail during the Personality TEST... if you consider the English(VERBAL understanding) difficult, uyou are probably not fit to be a pilot............... the mian aim of that is to see whehter can you EXTRACT THE CORRECT INFORMATION FROM A GIVEN TEXT... if you failed to understand it... means... you're really not suitable as a pilot...... in other words, the English(VERBAL Test) is to test your ability to understand a GIVEN text(situation).............which is an IMPORTANT SKILL This post has been edited by fillet: Jul 1 2006, 02:01 AM |
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Jul 1 2006, 12:37 PM
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actually i also havent went for the pys test but my fren told me they will reply ur request to be cadet pilot on august....
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Jul 1 2006, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 1 2006, 01:55 AM) most of the time.. why do people fail personality test?people fail during the Personality TEST... if you consider the English(VERBAL understanding) difficult, uyou are probably not fit to be a pilot............... the mian aim of that is to see whehter can you EXTRACT THE CORRECT INFORMATION FROM A GIVEN TEXT... if you failed to understand it... means... you're really not suitable as a pilot...... in other words, the English(VERBAL Test) is to test your ability to understand a GIVEN text(situation).............which is an IMPORTANT SKILL |
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Jul 1 2006, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 1 2006, 01:55 AM) most of the time.. from my opinion.. even genius cannot answer those english test in 1 hour.. (30 articles.. 4 question for each article..) 30x4=120 questions in 60 min.... have to take time to read and understand the article...people fail during the Personality TEST... if you consider the English(VERBAL understanding) difficult, uyou are probably not fit to be a pilot............... the mian aim of that is to see whehter can you EXTRACT THE CORRECT INFORMATION FROM A GIVEN TEXT... if you failed to understand it... means... you're really not suitable as a pilot...... in other words, the English(VERBAL Test) is to test your ability to understand a GIVEN text(situation).............which is an IMPORTANT SKILL |
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Jul 1 2006, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(ringgostar @ Jul 1 2006, 04:35 PM) from my opinion.. even genius cannot answer those english test in 1 hour.. (30 articles.. 4 question for each article..) 30x4=120 questions in 60 min.... have to take time to read and understand the article... sorry mate.. those question don't really require you to think much...... if your level is up there already.... you can finish all the questions with some extra time to spare...............sorry lah bro.. not that i want to say that your english is bad....... i'm just pointing out the truth................... BTW...... you only have to answer them by Selecting: 1)true 2)false 3)not given(or something like that) ...it's either you know, or you don't know................ PERSONALITY, fail because you are not the type of person whom they are looking for... maybe too hot-headed, too arrogant.... not honest.. etc,etc... This post has been edited by fillet: Jul 1 2006, 05:43 PM |
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Jul 1 2006, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 1 2006, 05:38 PM) sorry mate.. those question don't really require you to think much...... if your level is up there already.... you can finish all the questions with some extra time to spare...............sorry lah bro.. not that i want to say that your english is bad....... i'm just pointing out the truth................... BTW...... you only have to answer them by Selecting: 1)true 2)false 3)not given(or something like that) ... no comment.. anyway i just sharing my exp and opinion.. hope you guys success to the next stage..it's either you know, or you don't know................ PERSONALITY, fail because you are not the type of person whom they are looking for... maybe too hot-headed, too arrogant.... not honest.. etc,etc... |
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Jul 2 2006, 04:53 AM
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Can anyone inform if there is any new recruitment...
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Jul 2 2006, 12:20 PM
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i wish to make some correction/confirmation for my previous post,
TUDM does train their cadet until frozen ATPL. |
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Jul 2 2006, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(teddie @ Jul 2 2006, 12:20 PM) i wish to make some correction/confirmation for my previous post, SAUCE!!!TUDM does train their cadet until frozen ATPL. hehe.. As far as I know, they dont because there is totally no point doing so, and it makes no sense. But well, enlighten me please. |
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Jul 2 2006, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Jul 2 2006, 12:23 PM) SAUCE!!! Deathwing,hehe.. As far as I know, they dont because there is totally no point doing so, and it makes no sense. But well, enlighten me please. i shocked too when my fren's dad tell me bout this, he is still flying a jet based in butterworth. I will try to find out some black and white prove, cheers... hopefully can get more sources when next education fair This post has been edited by teddie: Jul 2 2006, 01:15 PM |
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Jul 2 2006, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(teddie @ Jul 2 2006, 01:05 PM) Deathwing, HMM... but DCA allows Convertion into a ATPL license.... if you've flown for the military...................i shocked too when my fren's dad tell me bout this, he is still flying a jet based in butterworth. I will try to find out some black and white prove, cheers... hopefully can get more sources when next education fair BTW, i doubt education fair can get information on PILOTS.. can you? |
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Jul 2 2006, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 2 2006, 08:52 PM) HMM... but DCA allows Convertion into a ATPL license.... if you've flown for the military................... can, but seems not very precise and detail... to meBTW, i doubt education fair can get information on PILOTS.. can you? |
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Jul 2 2006, 10:03 PM
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i bet most of them can't answer you about type of hours log.. and also Typre-rating... and IR/ MeIR fatpl... can there??
and i think they would have no idea on the medical parts too.. i get most of them from www.pprune.org and www.askcaptainlim.com if you jsut go Education fair and ask.. MANY MANY people would just think once you come out form HMA or MFA, you can fly..... well..... many people would not get the correct picture This post has been edited by fillet: Jul 2 2006, 10:06 PM |
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Jul 3 2006, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(ringgostar @ Jun 30 2006, 03:53 PM) i guess i failed during this stage... and most of the candidates are son of or uncle of a captain.. and some of them don't even went for phyomoto.. so don't harap sangat.. Can we call this nepotism? QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 1 2006, 09:38 AM) sorry mate.. those question don't really require you to think much...... if your level is up there already.... you can finish all the questions with some extra time to spare...............sorry lah bro.. not that i want to say that your english is bad....... i'm just pointing out the truth................... BTW...... you only have to answer them by Selecting: 1)true 2)false 3)not given(or something like that) ... Take it easy man. Proficiency in a language isn't something that can be gauged. Some peoples' brain are wired differently, so something that may be simple to you could prove to be a monumental task to someone else.it's either you know, or you don't know................ QUOTE(MunHoe @ Jun 30 2006, 08:07 AM) i juz heard ppl saying bout august intake, n really hope be accepted... QUOTE(MunHoe @ Jul 1 2006, 08:53 PM) Can anyone inform if there is any new recruitment... Hey man, get your story straight. First you say there may be an August intake, next you're acting as if you don't have a clue... so which is which??? |
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Jul 3 2006, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 2 2006, 10:03 PM) i bet most of them can't answer you about type of hours log.. and also Typre-rating... and IR/ MeIR fatpl... can there?? Ask Capt lim is a great site. and i think they would have no idea on the medical parts too.. i get most of them from www.pprune.org and www.askcaptainlim.com if you jsut go Education fair and ask.. MANY MANY people would just think once you come out form HMA or MFA, you can fly..... well..... many people would not get the correct picture Btw i uploaded a psychometric test example here http://www.flydamnit.com/downloads/ . I think i found it in askcaptainlim. |
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Jul 4 2006, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jul 3 2006, 03:53 PM) Ask Capt lim is a great site. Aren't those the Qantas tests? I think I saw them on Pprune as well...Btw i uploaded a psychometric test example here http://www.flydamnit.com/downloads/ . I think i found it in askcaptainlim. |
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Jul 5 2006, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ Jul 4 2006, 01:13 AM) Aren't those the Qantas tests? I think I saw them on Pprune as well... Yeah it is. Its almost the same as the one used in MAS, if not exactly |
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Jul 5 2006, 12:31 PM
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applying for mas is easier if u have contacts inside the mas itself...like raltives working with mas..otherwise u may be hopeless..it's all about the 'cable'...but it only will help u to sit the exam..after that it's based on ur own ability...if u have 'cable' u may found it easier on the last part which is the interview..so good luck..
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Jul 8 2006, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(roman @ Jul 5 2006, 04:31 AM) applying for mas is easier if u have contacts inside the mas itself...like raltives working with mas..otherwise u may be hopeless..it's all about the 'cable'...but it only will help u to sit the exam..after that it's based on ur own ability...if u have 'cable' u may found it easier on the last part which is the interview..so good luck.. You can't be serious mate... Are you trying to say that every cadet pilot that has ever enrolled into MAS since... lets say 1980, knows someone within the organization? |
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Jul 9 2006, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(INFeRNO @ Jul 3 2006, 09:22 AM) Can we call this nepotism? Sori, tat i heard from a fren tat not a cadet pilot and seen i 'm here wit most of u guys as cadet pilot, hope to get a confirm answer when is the intakeTake it easy man. Proficiency in a language isn't something that can be gauged. Some peoples' brain are wired differently, so something that may be simple to you could prove to be a monumental task to someone else. Hey man, get your story straight. First you say there may be an August intake, next you're acting as if you don't have a clue... so which is which??? |
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Jul 10 2006, 02:30 PM
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If there is really an august intake, can we just send our resume to mas? What should included inside the resume? btw, what are u doin now mun hoe?
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Jul 10 2006, 11:56 PM
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if there's an AUGUST intake...
it won't be your turn bro.. ME and MANY MANY others are still waiting for our MISPA RESULTS ..... MISPA done in MARCH.. |
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Jul 10 2006, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 10 2006, 11:56 PM) if there's an AUGUST intake... and there're still mispa from last year swtit won't be your turn bro.. ME and MANY MANY others are still waiting for our MISPA RESULTS ..... MISPA done in MARCH.. |
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Jul 11 2006, 06:02 PM
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Apply,
But don't get too excited thinking you can enter at august... because.. this is MAS.... i've spoken to a few cadets... most waited a MINIMUM OF 6 MONTHS |
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Jul 11 2006, 08:03 PM
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but there arent any vacancies by mas in the newspaper or website....would they accept it if i supposely apply?
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Jul 11 2006, 10:09 PM
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I heard my friend is going to attend SIA's interview on this saturday at Nikko Hotel, he is a lawyer who just graduate... any idea how they (SIA) choose people??
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Jul 12 2006, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(spm2005 @ Jul 10 2006, 02:30 PM) If there is really an august intake, can we just send our resume to mas? What should included inside the resume? btw, what are u doin now mun hoe? Maybe it is true we hav to wait but how long it will take? Do we hav to wait until we graduate wat we studying now?? I'm stuying at nilai college now on aerospace engineering but i still prefer to be a pilot....i send my resume n spm result add othes certificate on march i guess,....anyone is a cadet pilot now????? |
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Jul 12 2006, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(spm2005 @ Jul 11 2006, 08:03 PM) but there arent any vacancies by mas in the newspaper or website....would they accept it if i supposely apply? MAS once put in mewspaper for cadet pilot n he closing date is 31 of march tis year, i guess they will put advertisement again gua... |
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Jul 12 2006, 11:48 PM
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i know someone who did his psychomotor last week.
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Jul 19 2006, 07:58 PM
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koopa, UGPM
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Jul 19 2006, 08:03 PM
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i wear glasses, u think got chanced ah?
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Jul 19 2006, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Jul 12 2006, 11:48 PM) i know someone who did his psychomotor last week. last week? actually date please |
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Jul 19 2006, 08:12 PM
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i see that many actually applied directly to MAS or SQ...i'm taking a diff route though....
i apply directly to MFA to train first then only look for job from airlines... hopefully it's the same... |
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Jul 19 2006, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Unbelievable @ Jul 19 2006, 08:03 PM) i wear glasses, u think got chanced ah? sure u got... for more inform you can check back previous posts, fillet did a very clear explaination QUOTE(dualshock @ Jul 19 2006, 08:12 PM) i see that many actually applied directly to MAS or SQ...i'm taking a diff route though.... Hopefully it will be the same >< just wish you good luck i apply directly to MFA to train first then only look for job from airlines... hopefully it's the same... |
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Jul 20 2006, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Jul 19 2006, 08:09 PM) last week? actually date please Around 5th July. He applied last year btw. See how long the delay is. For those who applied, Good luck.  Btw they are opening a new training school in (i dont remember, refer to my previous post. haha). MAS is definetly taking more cadets. In addition to that, there are new airlines like FAX and Asmara Air (correct me if im wrong). For dualshock: Last time for MAS, u need to have a really good report and recommendation from instructors to get the 737 if ure studying privately from MFA. Many have to go to the Fokker stages in Sarawak 1st. If ure under MAS cadet pilot programme, u will almost definetly get the 737. But im not sure how it works now, because by 1st August, theres the Rural Route being given to AirAsia and everything. Last batch that was send for Fokker training, was send around March/April. Noone is certain whut will happen until the MAS/AirAsia thing is setteled now. This post has been edited by koopa: Jul 20 2006, 03:25 AM |
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Jul 20 2006, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(dualshock @ Jul 19 2006, 08:12 PM) i see that many actually applied directly to MAS or SQ...i'm taking a diff route though.... no it's not the SAMe MATE..i apply directly to MFA to train first then only look for job from airlines... hopefully it's the same... it's a lot tougher.... what if you didn't get employed? well... I'm on the SAME path as you.......... i was told by many that RIGHT NOW, US malaysians are very lucky because we can jump straight into 737 out of flying school....... But this would not last long as the flying schools are pumping out 200+ pilots each year... HMA + MFA = 400+++ very soon, the place in Air asia, MAS and transmile will be filled up... ____________________________________________________________________ TO UNBELIEVable: , OK, it works like this in Malaysia............ Before you get your license... they only allow i think about 500 degree each eye, and you need to see 6/60 without SPECS........... after you get your license..... they will take off the limits... i myself wear glasses, i'm 425 each eye, with ASTIG of 150 each eye also. __________________________________________________________________ KOOPA, UGPM This post has been edited by fillet: Jul 20 2006, 08:19 PM |
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Jul 21 2006, 09:08 AM
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fillet,
you ARE or WERE in the same path as me? |
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Jul 21 2006, 10:29 AM
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i am currently walking the same path
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Jul 21 2006, 05:53 PM
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We Malaysians are the luckiest bunch as aspiring pilots.
2 major airlines actually train us from 0 hour and give us a job after that. There is no other place in the world you can get yourself into the 737 cockpit by the age of 19. And a lucky dude I know got into the 777 right seat by the age of 20. Seriously self sponsoring is a bit pointless considering the marvelous chances of becoming a cadet pilot as Malaysians. |
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Jul 21 2006, 05:58 PM
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true indeed ;p
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Jul 21 2006, 07:23 PM
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aditional to that, a lot of ATPL holders in western cant even find a job in major airlines after more than ten years.
cadet programme should always be the first choice. |
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Jul 21 2006, 08:02 PM
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We Malaysians are also the LUCKIEST at the moment considering that..
3 airlines in Malaysia is Hiring fresh people out of flying school.......... FOr the mean time only lah |
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Jul 21 2006, 08:07 PM
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wah...all choose cadet pilot from airlines, how to compete lah...
guess have to go SQ or overseas liao lah... This post has been edited by dualshock: Jul 21 2006, 08:07 PM |
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Jul 22 2006, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE(dualshock @ Jul 21 2006, 08:07 PM) wah...all choose cadet pilot from airlines, how to compete lah... DO you really think overseas is EASIER??????guess have to go SQ or overseas liao lah... you got it wrong .... in fact.. Overseas Airlines will give preference to their LOCALs.. just like MAS and Air Asia... not every tom d*** and harry from overseas can enter Air Asia , MAS as they like... locals are given the preference.. This post has been edited by fillet: Jul 22 2006, 02:09 AM |
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Jul 22 2006, 06:27 AM
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SQ wont be partiality, they do select their cadets btw m'sians and sg'reans with fair.
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Jul 22 2006, 05:18 PM
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good news.
sq is expanding madly. they are facing huge shortage of pilots and are hiring madly. in today's news, sq just bought another 20 A350 and 9 A380; in addition to the previous orders of 787s and 777s. |
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Jul 22 2006, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jul 22 2006, 05:18 PM) good news. DAMN!!sq is expanding madly. they are facing huge shortage of pilots and are hiring madly. in today's news, sq just bought another 20 A350 and 9 A380; in addition to the previous orders of 787s and 777s. hopefully they take in FRESH GUYS for jet conversion and type rating..... sign 5 years bond with them for the training.... i don't think they can recruit enough cadet pilot to in the coming 2 years time to meet the demand can they??? SIA requires a minimum of A' levels, but their ACTUAL minimum is an University Degree....sad.. that's why i wasn't called.. for the interview...... if anyone in SIA has the chance, can find out which school does SIA approve other than MASSEY? This post has been edited by fillet: Jul 22 2006, 07:29 PM |
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Jul 22 2006, 11:09 PM
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Saw quite a number of STPM holders going for the final interview these days. They look so young that they hardly able to fit in the crowd. I actually thought those were school tours.
SIA is DESPERATELY in need of cadet pilots. This post has been edited by DeathWing: Jul 22 2006, 11:18 PM |
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Jul 22 2006, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 22 2006, 07:28 AM) DAMN!! From what i see those guys who come from MFA will usually end up in Cargo. I know a guy who graduated in Massey had to do his ground studies again. They actually waived his flying hours, and now he is waiting to go to Marochyhopefully they take in FRESH GUYS for jet conversion and type rating..... sign 5 years bond with them for the training.... i don't think they can recruit enough cadet pilot to in the coming 2 years time to meet the demand can they??? SIA requires a minimum of A' levels, but their ACTUAL minimum is an University Degree....sad.. that's why i wasn't called.. for the interview...... if anyone in SIA has the chance, can find out which school does SIA approve other than MASSEY? |
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Jul 22 2006, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 22 2006, 07:28 PM) DAMN!! try your luck and apply. there is one in my batch who just finished his a-level and only aged 19hopefully they take in FRESH GUYS for jet conversion and type rating..... sign 5 years bond with them for the training.... i don't think they can recruit enough cadet pilot to in the coming 2 years time to meet the demand can they??? SIA requires a minimum of A' levels, but their ACTUAL minimum is an University Degree....sad.. that's why i wasn't called.. for the interview...... if anyone in SIA has the chance, can find out which school does SIA approve other than MASSEY? This post has been edited by hoongji: Jul 23 2006, 12:16 AM |
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Jul 23 2006, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Jul 22 2006, 11:57 PM) try your luck and apply. there is one in my batch who just finished his 0-level and only aged 19 that's SPM rite ?i'm really worried about my STPM result which is not 'nice' and whether they have got the preference/criteria about the minimum level of education which is at least a diploma/degree. if they are just looking for the person with the maturity and right attitude, then it's good news for me..... i'll apply after my sem ends this august, and have to prepare properly and thoroughly. thanks hoongji. |
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Jul 23 2006, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jul 23 2006, 12:13 AM) that's SPM rite ? sorry, typo...a-level.i'm really worried about my STPM result which is not 'nice' and whether they have got the preference/criteria about the minimum level of education which is at least a diploma/degree. if they are just looking for the person with the maturity and right attitude, then it's good news for me..... i'll apply after my sem ends this august, and have to prepare properly and thoroughly. thanks hoongji. good luck |
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Jul 23 2006, 02:56 AM
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looks like you have to SCORe a
GODLIKE score in A-levels or equipvalent to earn an interview.. i did Australia Yr-12, 4B's 1C, top 19% of all the students... guess it's not good enough.... lol.. already paid HMA first installment.. strating end of the month adi.,.. too late for SIA. i sent a resume during CNY 2006, until now no reply.. HOPEFULLLY, i'll do well in Langkawi... then hopefully .. got recommendation from instructor.... and HOPEfully.. SIA would take me in as A Cadet-but skip all the training..... This post has been edited by fillet: Jul 23 2006, 03:01 AM |
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Jul 23 2006, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 23 2006, 02:56 AM) looks like you have to SCORe a crap. i was MIA during Form 6.....dint put in any effort at all and thats why screwed up. GODLIKE score in A-levels or equipvalent to earn an interview.. i did Australia Yr-12, 4B's 1C, top 19% of all the students... guess it's not good enough.... lol.. already paid HMA first installment.. strating end of the month adi.,.. too late for SIA. i sent a resume during CNY 2006, until now no reply.. HOPEFULLLY, i'll do well in Langkawi... then hopefully .. got recommendation from instructor.... and HOPEfully.. SIA would take me in as A Cadet-but skip all the training..... and my friend in HMA will be delayed for 6months after he finished ground school... This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 23 2006, 10:46 AM |
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Jul 23 2006, 11:54 AM
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i heard SQ dun recognize HMA but only MFA? sorry fillet, i ain't offencing you.
about the 20 350's and additional 9 380's, SQ will lease 19 a330 while waiting for the arrival of 350.Well, nth is firmed yet until the final deal is sealed =) |
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Jul 24 2006, 04:09 PM
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haha.. it's a shame SQ doesn't recognize HMA..
HMA training facilities are newer and better... the even have FNPT II training.. besides that, they have a Simulator which is equiped with Full-Glass Cockpit equipments.... |
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Jul 30 2006, 12:59 PM
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Erm guys i have sum questioon here!
erm i m from arts strem and in form 5 now isit possible to study pilot without physics in form 5? kinda worry for this can someone give me some advise what should i do after spm?without form 6(stpm) stil possible right. or isit possible after form 5 take extra physics tuition or class? |
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Jul 30 2006, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Davichi @ Jul 30 2006, 12:59 PM) Erm guys i have sum questioon here! english,math,physics are required in order to apply...erm i m from arts strem and in form 5 now isit possible to study pilot without physics in form 5? kinda worry for this can someone give me some advise what should i do after spm?without form 6(stpm) stil possible right. or isit possible after form 5 take extra physics tuition or class? |
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Jul 30 2006, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(roman @ Jul 30 2006, 06:58 PM) english,math,physics are required in order to apply... all i have only physics........can i learn physics after form 5 ? but i have normal scince |
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Jul 30 2006, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 23 2006, 02:56 AM) looks like you have to SCORe a HOW much u paid for itGODLIKE score in A-levels or equipvalent to earn an interview.. i did Australia Yr-12, 4B's 1C, top 19% of all the students... guess it's not good enough.... lol.. already paid HMA first installment.. strating end of the month adi.,.. too late for SIA. i sent a resume during CNY 2006, until now no reply.. HOPEFULLLY, i'll do well in Langkawi... then hopefully .. got recommendation from instructor.... and HOPEfully.. SIA would take me in as A Cadet-but skip all the training..... ur Australia Yr-12 and also the Langkawi 1 |
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Jul 31 2006, 02:43 AM
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australia yr-12 in Taylors.... RM14k...
HMA in Langkawi... RM180k |
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Jul 31 2006, 09:23 PM
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fillet can i have ur msn please?
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Aug 2 2006, 12:31 AM
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Does SIA by any chances accept a fresh graduate from uhm.. college ?
I've done my SPM with sufficient credits for the requirements and currently persuing Australia year 12 in Taylors. Im doing law now anyhow but I have got Physics back in my SPM and in fact a distinction for it. I was thinking of giving it a shot after my programme now or should I submit my resume to SIA before it ? Should I wait for my results ? What are the chances that I will be called in for interview ? If it does not work out I guess I'll stick back to my studies in law. Btw, a friend of mine has got 800+ degrees on one of his eyes. The other almost there. Do you think he stand a chance to be short-listed ? Or does he need to undergo a laser surgery to be in the requirements ? |
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Aug 2 2006, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(ikeken @ Aug 2 2006, 12:31 AM) Does SIA by any chances accept a fresh graduate from uhm.. college ? why dun u just submit first now...if u dun get it than u can try later when u graduate.. for SIA i dun know but for MAS surely they'll look back at ur spm...I've done my SPM with sufficient credits for the requirements and currently persuing Australia year 12 in Taylors. Im doing law now anyhow but I have got Physics back in my SPM and in fact a distinction for it. I was thinking of giving it a shot after my programme now or should I submit my resume to SIA before it ? Should I wait for my results ? What are the chances that I will be called in for interview ? If it does not work out I guess I'll stick back to my studies in law. Btw, a friend of mine has got 800+ degrees on one of his eyes. The other almost there. Do you think he stand a chance to be short-listed ? Or does he need to undergo a laser surgery to be in the requirements ? 800+? surely not...but i heard they accept laser nowadays..better check again.. |
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Aug 2 2006, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(Davichi @ Jul 30 2006, 10:01 PM) all i have only physics........ if u're willing to sit up for spm again why not? normal science won't help i think... u're competing with thousands of applicants and that's a major setback.. can i learn physics after form 5 ? but i have normal scince |
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Aug 2 2006, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(ikeken @ Aug 2 2006, 12:31 AM) Does SIA by any chances accept a fresh graduate from uhm.. college ? you can try with your diploma. in fact, there is a young guy with just a singapore a-levels and he's in my batch. do not give up if not called up. try again in few months time or when you have obtained a better education certs. sometimes, there are chances of misplaced/missed application due to the huge number of applicants and backlogs.I've done my SPM with sufficient credits for the requirements and currently persuing Australia year 12 in Taylors. Im doing law now anyhow but I have got Physics back in my SPM and in fact a distinction for it. I was thinking of giving it a shot after my programme now or should I submit my resume to SIA before it ? Should I wait for my results ? What are the chances that I will be called in for interview ? If it does not work out I guess I'll stick back to my studies in law. Btw, a friend of mine has got 800+ degrees on one of his eyes. The other almost there. Do you think he stand a chance to be short-listed ? Or does he need to undergo a laser surgery to be in the requirements ? minimum eyesight for SIA is 6/60 correctable to 6/6 (about 500 degree); no color blind; and in good health |
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Well I've discussed with my father before and one of the reason he does not agree me to piloting is what will happen when I'm old. What is the maximum age to fly a plane ? A commercial plane. 50's ? or maybe 60s ? And usually what will happen to those retired pilots ? Do they still get financial support from the company ?
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Aug 2 2006, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(ikeken @ Aug 2 2006, 07:18 PM) Well I've discussed with my father before and one of the reason he does not agree me to piloting is what will happen when I'm old. What is the maximum age to fly a plane ? A commercial plane. 50's ? or maybe 60s ? And usually what will happen to those retired pilots ? Do they still get financial support from the company ? ok, let me share a bit regarding the salary of a pilot. after checking out from the training and being a second officer (6-12months), you'll be paid a basic of sgd2200 (another sgd500-1000 for allowances). as a first officer, your basic is sgd5000 (another sgd1000-3000 for allowances). as a senior first officer, you'll be paid a basic of sgd9000++ (another sgd2000-3000++ for allowances). in a bout 10 years time, you'll be a captain and your basic is roughly sgd15000-18000 (another 2-5k of allowances).in probably 10 years time, you're already a millionaire. and if you are wise in your financial planning, you can do some investments to double up your money. of course the above is only possible if you are careful with your spendings. if you spend the amount you earn, then there is no point doing this job and you might even end up in debt. being in this line; there are many temptations like drinking, clubbing, gambling and spending on luxury items. you need to have a strong will and self control. if you have all these qualities, i see no reason you'll be able to retire and spend your retirement time with your families; travelling or golfing. again, money is not the most important factor you want to be a pilot. you need to have passion in the job; like any other job in the market. |
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Aug 2 2006, 08:17 PM
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this is what i know huhuhh pilot pay is big n among the yummiest in the wolrd huhuhuhuhuh.... ask string hahahaah ....wah so macho la ini pilot just saw one coming down from aircraft yesterday... damn jealous huhuhhhuh
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hoongji.... i continue a little from where you left out..
PILOT... that's the PAY in SIA. in thsoe REALLY WELL Established airlines like Cathay or Qantas... you can easily make RM60,000 permonth or more... the highest i've heard is RM120,000 per month... as for the eyesight requirement... my doctor tells me.. for MALAYSIA... Initial Medical Checkup Mustn't Exceed +/-5D Renewals, once u have experience, they don't care anymore.... BTW... doing LASER or not.... they will still look at your eye-sight before u do the laser |
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Aug 3 2006, 12:52 AM
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Im not sure that I have a great passion towards pilot but I really do interested in the benefits piloting offers. I love travelling, meeting people and yeah, the pay as well as the coolness when the uniform is dressed on me.
Say, how many are there of you guy's batch or knowledge that a 18 years old teenage with the qualification like me managed to enrol into SIA cadet-pilot ? I always wanted to give it a try. Just a try is enough. As my father does not really like me being a pilot. Says its dangerous and theres nothing you can do once you grow old. But it's my dream. At least I feel it that way now. Sigh. Anyhow, Im still interested in knowing the retirement age of a pilot. As the maximum age of he to fly a plane. |
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Aug 3 2006, 01:31 AM
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MAXIMUM right now is 60,
they're planning to increase to 65........ if u plan properly... by the time you're 60, all yours kids would have grown up and working.. and u would have few million in your bank./. then jsut enjoy life or start business... BTW..... Aeroplane is the SAFEST transport available.. lol... i would say LORRY driver and BAS driver is more dangerous than a pilot.... the chances of plane having accident is very VERY VERY VERY VERY LOW! |
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Aug 3 2006, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Aug 3 2006, 01:31 AM) MAXIMUM right now is 60, yes, airplanes have well maintenance before departing and consist of 2 "drivers" hehe.... somemore ATC will be your asistantsBTW..... Aeroplane is the SAFEST transport available.. lol... i would say LORRY driver and BAS driver is more dangerous than a pilot.... the chances of plane having accident is very VERY VERY VERY VERY LOW! |
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Aug 3 2006, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Aug 3 2006, 01:31 AM) BTW..... Aeroplane is the SAFEST transport available.. lol... i would say LORRY driver and BAS driver is more dangerous than a pilot.... ya lor very low but percentage of 'mati' is almost 99.99% the chances of plane having accident is very VERY VERY VERY VERY LOW! ..LoL but if u really wan to be a pilot surely that won't bother u...and dun worry coz the maintenance people will work hard for the aircraft-isn't right kabadi? |
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Aug 3 2006, 06:17 PM
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Age of 60 ? Cool. That would be very nice of it. Im in dilemma whether I want to become a pilot or continue with my studies, going for lawyer. If you were to ask me on which I have greater interest, I would say both.
Pilot - I love travelling although I never board a plane before but thinking of going to various places, beautiful places and getting paid for it is real tempting to me. Can meet a lot of people. Broaden my knowledge and dont really have to think much in piloting. Not much trouble compared to other jobs. However, if flying to various places means lesser time in my homecountry. My family especially my wife and kids will be abandoned. This is one of the major drawback. Haih.. Lawyer - I like it as its one of the prestigious career ever. Everybody respects a lawyer and if Im good, lots of money will flow into my bank. More time for my family. And I can travel just like a pilot once Im rich. Aiks.. I duno ler.. Confused. |
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Aug 3 2006, 11:08 PM
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Good to know that the thread is still very much alive...
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Aug 4 2006, 03:16 AM
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ikeken, you may be wrong here...
PILOT is not just, Get on the plane, start it and fly it... there's many many considerations and problems that a pilot wil;l face on a daily basis... |
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Aug 4 2006, 04:25 AM
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lol u might not have enough time to go travelling during works.....
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Aug 4 2006, 04:38 AM
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please watch this blog
www.xanga.com/zosat it talks most his experience to be a MAS pilot.. |
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Aug 4 2006, 09:27 AM
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sorry to say this but you dont choose to be an airline pilot. many people worked hard for years before achieving that. and to be an airline pilot is not as easy as you think. i just hate that the fact people keep cocking about why they didnt choose to be a pilot and got into the engineering or IT field blah blah blah.
i would like to say this again. it takes a lot more than you think to chase the flying dream. so please pay some respect. until you get greenlight for a cadet pilot programme, dont say you're in a dilemma ps: if you're only considering piloting because you get to travel, just forget it. i can imagine senior pilots reaction if you say that in the interview. |
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Aug 4 2006, 04:53 PM
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sorry if im being ignorance here, just want to ask, if applying for SIA through email, did we need to include scan of our certificates or just the application form.Which method is better throgh email or snail mail??..thnaks
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Aug 4 2006, 05:29 PM
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Go for email man,snail mail them and it may never reach..
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Aug 5 2006, 02:52 AM
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Wow.. so many discussion..
QUOTE(ikeken @ Aug 2 2006, 07:18 PM) Well I've discussed with my father before and one of the reason he does not agree me to piloting is what will happen when I'm old. What is the maximum age to fly a plane ? A commercial plane. 50's ? or maybe 60s ? And usually what will happen to those retired pilots ? Do they still get financial support from the company ? For Malaysia Airlines its 55.. Then u can appeal, if they find u fit enough u can go up to 60. Most airlines will go up to 60QUOTE(ptit @ Aug 4 2006, 04:38 AM) please watch this blog Zosat was my junior in MFA. Haha. www.xanga.com/zosat it talks most his experience to be a MAS pilot.. Deathwing: PM. Sorry for the late reply. This post has been edited by koopa: Aug 5 2006, 02:52 AM |
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Aug 5 2006, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Aug 5 2006, 02:52 AM) Wow.. so many discussion.. Omg really? Hope can become your junior soon For Malaysia Airlines its 55.. Then u can appeal, if they find u fit enough u can go up to 60. Most airlines will go up to 60 Zosat was my junior in MFA. Haha. Deathwing: PM. Sorry for the late reply. |
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Aug 5 2006, 10:12 PM
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Sorry bro... i hav a difficulty over here... i been called for first test for cadet pilot recruitment tis tuesday(8/8/06)...i been nervous tis few day n hope to get advice from u guys senior... btw, the first test is psychomotor rite?? Wat is it about?? can i add u guys in msn n chat bout it...thanks btw...
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Aug 10 2006, 11:44 AM
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MunHoe,you got called up by MAS?...
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Aug 11 2006, 08:04 PM
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Hey....im currently studying for SAM (south aus Matriculation)
After SAM i planning to go australia to take the aviation course in RMIT university in Melbourne....then in there i will complete my course with a commercial pilot license...then i can go to any airlines interview for pilot job... Is it correct...or it is better to undergo training provided by those airlines such as SIA and MAS...by bonding with them... Im quite confuse now cause i scare after i go for the aviation course...and after getting my license...i wont be able to get into any airlines....and thats waste of my money and TIME....So how? Or is it i can apply for others airlines that are outside of singapore and malaysia??? Need suggestion from the pro please... |
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Aug 12 2006, 01:02 AM
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My friend is already a co-pilot for MAS despite he's still undergoing the ground practical. After this, he'll be flying in a plane. I think next week, he'll start with his flyings.
Btw, he's under a scholarship of MAS and is under bond until the age of 35. He's currently 20. He'll be flying for domestic planes as well as regional (within South East Asia) planes. Yes, being a pilot can earn a lot but the responsibilties that carried by a pilot is priceless. This is what he told me. |
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Aug 12 2006, 10:41 AM
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Pm me his name? Is he from Batch 12? 13?
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Aug 12 2006, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ Aug 12 2006, 10:41 AM) Pm me his name? Is he from Batch 12? 13? I don't know he's from which batch.Btw, already pm-ed you his name. |
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Aug 13 2006, 04:36 PM
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Hey...i wan to ask....currently im studying in SAM year 12 in TAylors....so can i apply SIA now without the final of my result or i need to wait for my final result?
Then do MAS or Air ASia accept applies now? |
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Aug 15 2006, 02:11 AM
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U can just try to send your application anytime. No need to wait the ad in the newspaper. Some people apply after SPM. After u get your result.. Just send in your application again. Hehe.
Its easier if u make copies. |
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Aug 22 2006, 11:45 AM
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News update: I saw around 5 guys at at the sim building today waiting for their Psychomotor test.. and i also heard there will be an interview on the 24th this month. Good luck for those who applied.
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Aug 24 2006, 05:54 PM
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Hello everyone I am new to this site. I have just got a placing in MFA and im undergoing my medical exam and DCA approval letter. I am only 17 with IGCSE (O level equivalent) results as required. Any tips on how am I going to write my approval letter to the DCA? Like what should I include and say, cause I seriously have no idea. Is he going to interview me and ask me loads of difficult questions? Please help advise me.
Btw What happens in the medical exam what are they going to do to me? Sorry first time going for one. Also what are the following Initials mean: AA SQ MISPA SIA HMA  maybe I should start doing some better researchAnyone know good sites which give good information on planes. Or any sites which I can start out with? This post has been edited by Snezo: Aug 24 2006, 06:15 PM |
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Aug 29 2006, 06:22 PM
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no suggestions?
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Aug 29 2006, 08:28 PM
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AA should be the airlines IATA code for American airways at but i think they are trying to say Air Asia over here.
SQ is singapore airlines, say so to SIA(ICAO). MISPA is the paper for MAS psychometric test HMA is the flying school at langkawi cheers mate This post has been edited by teddie: Aug 29 2006, 08:38 PM |
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Aug 30 2006, 12:18 AM
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Ic thanks ^^
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Sep 2 2006, 12:48 PM
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dicafa... i sugesst if u want to pay for your own training, do it in malaysia.....
i know a couple of instrutors who is holding a foreign license having difficulties to enter local airlines... and DCA gives lots of problem in conversion |
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do u ever think wanna be a pilot?well,i wanna be a pilot since i was small but maybe it's my fate to become an engineer...Any pilot here want to share ur information about ur carrier and ur lifestyle....If MAS open for cadet pilot,i think i will apply it!!!
Or maybe u r cadet pilot..maybe can share ur experince in ur academy..hopefully to get ur feedback This post has been edited by bonzaimy: Sep 19 2006, 12:58 AM Attached image(s)  |
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Sep 19 2006, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Sep 19 2006, 12:56 AM) do u ever think wanna be a pilot?well,i wanna be a pilot since i was small but maybe it's my fate to become an engineer...Any pilot here want to share ur information about ur carrier and ur lifestyle....If MAS open for cadet pilot,i think i will apply it!!! yup.its my dream also to be a pilot, sejeak kecik, tapi dah 4 kali apply xdapat2 pun.Ko dah pernah apply ker?Or maybe u r cadet pilot..maybe can share ur experince in ur academy..hopefully to get ur feedback |
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Sep 19 2006, 12:22 PM
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My friend went for interview before, SIA
just some advice, brush up on your knowledge of the company my friend told me they asked things like - air routes - airport specs |
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Sep 19 2006, 04:51 PM
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wow how bout being a steward
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Sep 19 2006, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(aku_ker @ Sep 19 2006, 12:20 PM) yup.its my dream also to be a pilot, sejeak kecik, tapi dah 4 kali apply xdapat2 pun.Ko dah pernah apply ker? well,i think im going to apply soon...i really wanna be a pilot.Pilot is my dream job..don knowla about da test but my friend said,not so hard....their lifestyle is cool...haha..surrounding by chicks...HIGH CLASS CHICKS..kekeke..but that's not the main thing la....i love flying,of course!!! |
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Sep 19 2006, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(gnome827 @ Sep 19 2006, 04:51 PM) wow how bout being a steward lol...steward???emmm...i don think i like it la....the job is easy but not so cool!! |
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Sep 19 2006, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Sep 19 2006, 12:56 AM) do u ever think wanna be a pilot?well,i wanna be a pilot since i was small but maybe it's my fate to become an engineer...Any pilot here want to share ur information about ur carrier and ur lifestyle....If MAS open for cadet pilot,i think i will apply it!!! * where's the old pilot thread? *Or maybe u r cadet pilot..maybe can share ur experince in ur academy..hopefully to get ur feedback i was once an engineer before i decided to make a switch. and i feel glad that i took that chance. flying is fun. but ATPL papers are hell. not to mention the steep learning curve and also high expectation from the company. so prepare. if you feel that's where you want to be, then make that move. good luck. |
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Sep 20 2006, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Sep 19 2006, 11:27 AM) * where's the old pilot thread? * u guys finish tech paper already?i was once an engineer before i decided to make a switch. and i feel glad that i took that chance. flying is fun. but ATPL papers are hell. not to mention the steep learning curve and also high expectation from the company. so prepare. if you feel that's where you want to be, then make that move. good luck. |
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Sep 20 2006, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Sep 19 2006, 11:27 PM) * where's the old pilot thread? * hi hoongji, you are a cadet pilot with Sia right? Can you tell me how to apply, for the email what cert you need to attached??i was once an engineer before i decided to make a switch. and i feel glad that i took that chance. flying is fun. but ATPL papers are hell. not to mention the steep learning curve and also high expectation from the company. so prepare. if you feel that's where you want to be, then make that move. good luck. |
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Sep 20 2006, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ Sep 20 2006, 12:28 AM) u guys finish tech paper already? finished tech paper. now in ATPL (a terrible pilot's life) phase. it's hell. any tips from you how to get over it? and how's your life in jandakot? having spring now eh?QUOTE(aku_ker @ Sep 20 2006, 02:32 PM) hi hoongji, you are a cadet pilot with Sia right? Can you tell me how to apply, for the email what cert you need to attached?? all you need to know about SIA is available here:http://askcaptainlim.com/phpBB/viewforum.p...c049d358b992328 interview tips: http://askcaptainlim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2&start=0 good luck as for the email, just attach a scanned copy of your spm/stpm/degree cert. This post has been edited by hoongji: Sep 20 2006, 04:47 PM |
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Sep 20 2006, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Sep 20 2006, 04:44 AM) finished tech paper. now in ATPL (a terrible pilot's life) phase. it's hell. any tips from you how to get over it? and how's your life in jandakot? having spring now eh? lol, i feel u bro. Just follow the ABBA, but not blindly and u know what i mean. We are in the midst of clearing solo now, hopefully can clear in next few sorties. NE New course came in ?all you need to know about SIA is available here: http://askcaptainlim.com/phpBB/viewforum.p...c049d358b992328 interview tips: http://askcaptainlim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2&start=0 good luck as for the email, just attach a scanned copy of your spm/stpm/degree cert. |
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Sep 20 2006, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ Sep 20 2006, 07:41 PM) lol, i feel u bro. Just follow the ABBA, but not blindly and u know what i mean. We are in the midst of clearing solo now, hopefully can clear in next few sorties. NE New course came in ? 122 came for a month already. 123 in OBS now |
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Sep 20 2006, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(hoongji @ Sep 19 2006, 11:27 PM) * where's the old pilot thread? * hohoh..can i appy for SIA?im malaysian lol...i was once an engineer before i decided to make a switch. and i feel glad that i took that chance. flying is fun. but ATPL papers are hell. not to mention the steep learning curve and also high expectation from the company. so prepare. if you feel that's where you want to be, then make that move. good luck. I am a trainee aircraft engineer now...do u think it's easy for me to change to pilot now coz i already sign a contract with MAS for 3 years lol...i wanna be a pilot... This post has been edited by bonzaimy: Sep 20 2006, 08:52 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 12:41 AM
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I really wanna become a pilot.. I asked one of my fren's uncle, who's from KL.. He told me something about being a pilot.. i mean something like "how to". He told me to take STPM after SPM, then after STPM, go for PPL, then only interview at airlines company.. after that if selected, can go for CPL under scholarship/sponsor.. after that only get to fly a plane.. Anything that I missed? pls tell me more (for those who experienced).. I really hope that I can fly a plane in the future..
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Sep 22 2006, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Sep 22 2006, 12:41 AM) I really wanna become a pilot.. I asked one of my fren's uncle, who's from KL.. He told me something about being a pilot.. i mean something like "how to". He told me to take STPM after SPM, then after STPM, go for PPL, then only interview at airlines company.. after that if selected, can go for CPL under scholarship/sponsor.. after that only get to fly a plane.. Anything that I missed? pls tell me more (for those who experienced).. I really hope that I can fly a plane in the future.. as i know,no need to go to STPM coz lot's of my friends who join cadet pilot only have SPM cert..it's not easy as u think..most of them who attend the interview for the first time will fail..NOt say like they have no qualification but da first test(ssychomotor) i heard is quite easy but maybe nervous!!!so,cannot do anything lio...*does height really matter??? height of course la...minimum is 160...my height is 163...hahaha..but never apply for cadet pilot..maybe after this kot...i'll inform u if they open for a cadet pilot... |
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Sep 22 2006, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Sep 22 2006, 12:48 PM) as i know,no need to go to STPM coz lot's of my friends who join cadet pilot only have SPM cert..it's not easy as u think..most of them who attend the interview for the first time will fail..NOt say like they have no qualification but da first test(ssychomotor) i heard is quite easy but maybe nervous!!!so,cannot do anything lio... Oic.. My height also around 160 only.. hehe. erm, no need inform me yet.. coz i'm still in form 4.. long way to go, still. xD but then can u tell me about steps to become a pilot? i mean, after spm need to go where?? becoming a pilot no need to go into college or uni one rite? only go PPL, CPL courses? height of course la...minimum is 160...my height is 163...hahaha..but never apply for cadet pilot..maybe after this kot...i'll inform u if they open for a cadet pilot... |
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Sep 22 2006, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Sep 22 2006, 12:48 PM) as i know,no need to go to STPM coz lot's of my friends who join cadet pilot only have SPM cert..it's not easy as u think..most of them who attend the interview for the first time will fail..NOt say like they have no qualification but da first test(ssychomotor) i heard is quite easy but maybe nervous!!!so,cannot do anything lio... I thought the minimum height is 165 cm !! height of course la...minimum is 160...my height is 163...hahaha..but never apply for cadet pilot..maybe after this kot...i'll inform u if they open for a cadet pilot... |
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Sep 22 2006, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Sep 22 2006, 01:10 PM) Oic.. My height also around 160 only.. hehe. erm, no need inform me yet.. coz i'm still in form 4.. long way to go, still. xD but then can u tell me about steps to become a pilot? i mean, after spm need to go where?? becoming a pilot no need to go into college or uni one rite? only go PPL, CPL courses? yup..u can apply for cadet pilot after SPM...make sure ur result is GOOD!!!emm..if u want to get diploma it's up to u..just wanna have extra cert...but,normally,most pilot didnt go for U..lot's of money and need to wasting ur time to go to U??what for??just attend the course...the more license u have,the more money you will get..Like my fathers friend,he's a captain for B747 and his meal allowance is USD$3k ....a lot u know...and his salary is bout RM60K...around that la..forgot already... Actually,the height to become a pilot is 160....coz my friend is shorter than me and he pass the height test..hehehe...if u shorter than the minimum height,they will ask u to go back..cant take the exam...so bad This post has been edited by bonzaimy: Sep 22 2006, 09:33 PM |
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Sep 22 2006, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 22 2006, 01:19 PM) I thought the minimum height is 165 cm !! nop...160...im serious... |
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Sep 22 2006, 09:42 PM
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now i see.. Rm60k per month?? wow.. that's a lot of money @.@
the good results are to use for airlines only rite? i mean during interviews. |
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Sep 23 2006, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Sep 22 2006, 12:48 PM) height of course la...minimum is 160...my height is 163...hahaha..but never apply for cadet pilot..maybe after this kot...i'll inform u if they open for a cadet pilot... |
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Sep 26 2006, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(leewai @ Sep 23 2006, 06:53 PM) Errm, got maximum height anot? lol! LOL.. actually there is no maximum height... i saw a captain which around 160~163cm..as i know, MAS requirement is >163cm... cuz i jz received the letter 2day after my school... haha... 2morow is my psychomotor test dy... so bad.. no time for me to get ready for this.. |
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Sep 29 2006, 10:23 PM
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hey,i dont know they open for cadet pilot..when u saw it?on da paper?
spychomotor i heard not so easy...anyway,good luck |
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Oct 1 2006, 04:31 AM
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i failed my pyschomotor.. haha..
my 1st time.. now now pursuing my law degree |
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Oct 1 2006, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(sCooteRiSm @ Oct 1 2006, 04:31 AM) i failed my pyschomotor.. haha.. That was how many year ago ? my 1st time.. now now pursuing my law degree |
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Oct 1 2006, 10:45 AM
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when they will open for cadet pilot?Can u inform me?I think for psychomotor,maybe i have to struggle a little bit.I know all da instrument inside the cockpit and already reapaired it before.Im just afraid if i fail the psychomotor...Gosh!!!!!
U guys play flight simulator games?it's really help |
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Oct 1 2006, 09:15 PM
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u all already have PPL ??
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Oct 1 2006, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Oct 1 2006, 09:15 PM) u all already have PPL ?? wht is PPL? |
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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Oct 1 2006, 11:50 PM) wht is PPL? private pilot license |
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Oct 2 2006, 03:19 PM
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bonzaimy: yea.. PPL stands for private pilot license. I heard from my uncle that if I wanna become a pilot, first of all I'll have to have a PPL, then only go interview at airlines then the airlines will have something like scholarship/sponsorship to go for CPL (commercial pilot license) course.. But I'm still unsure bout the information.. do correct me if I'm wrong..
 teddie: are u a pilot?? U looks like one (with ur userbar siggy).. (= |
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Oct 2 2006, 07:18 PM
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stsh, no necessary. Airlines do not expect you to have PPL. hehe... there are many rumours bout this.
i'm not a pilot yet, sorry. =) |
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Oct 3 2006, 05:12 PM
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check today The Star.. SIA requires Cadet Pilot...
Pilot also my dream job because i love controlling some machine but it just a dream.. hey anyone know how to become ship captain? |
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Oct 3 2006, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(su8aru @ Oct 3 2006, 05:12 PM) check today The Star.. SIA requires Cadet Pilot... Yes...u can enter ALARM(Akedami Laut Malaysia) or enter MISC(Malaysia International Ship Corp)...Pilot also my dream job because i love controlling some machine but it just a dream.. hey anyone know how to become ship captain? PPL is expensive lol...SIA need pilot?do they accept malaysian? |
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Oct 3 2006, 09:23 PM
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If know nothing only have one spm cert. can go apply as a cadet pilot at airlines? no need any min. requirements?
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Oct 7 2006, 01:35 PM
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aaaaarrrrrrrggghhh..my chance to be a pilot is 0% now in SIA since they all dont want SPM cert..crap...
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Oct 7 2006, 05:24 PM
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then what cert they want ??
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Oct 8 2006, 11:26 AM
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For SIA of course the requirement is high la...Maybe degree holder also didnt get the job!!!I heard that most of the cadet pilot there is not like in MAS or AIRASIA.They are matured and age around 25 and above.Like us,20++ also can be a cadet pilot.
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Oct 8 2006, 07:58 PM
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wat is the qualify 4 ebing a pilot??????
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Oct 9 2006, 12:03 AM
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Get a degree if you're serious about SIA.
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Oct 9 2006, 06:24 AM
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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Oct 8 2006, 07:58 PM) wat is the qualify 4 ebing a pilot?????? For MAS or AIRASIA,the minimm requirement only SPM certificate but for SIA,diploma is min requuirement.But,it's up to them to give u the job.Even degree holder have to struggle for this thing.The best thing is,go for MAS or AIRASIA and after u establish and ur contract end with one of that company,u can go there. |
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Oct 9 2006, 02:50 PM
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but then take diploma/degree, must take what course?
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Oct 9 2006, 05:55 PM
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take course more to engineering.i heard at Poli and U now have aircraft maintenance course.It's new.U can try that.But if u want to become pilot faster,go to MAS or AIRASIA
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Oct 9 2006, 09:11 PM
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ooo. go AIRASIA or MAS first before proceeding to SIA can earn more experience first.. lol.
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Oct 10 2006, 03:25 AM
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The huge previous pilot thread hos inexplicably dissapeared....
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Oct 10 2006, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(tatayoung @ Oct 10 2006, 03:25 AM) The huge previous pilot thread hos inexplicably dissapeared.... Really? impossible got deleted.. maybe long time din active izit? then it just "sunk".. lol |
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Oct 10 2006, 09:12 PM
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wow...how come
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Oct 12 2006, 08:11 PM
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i saw on the newspaper that there's one compony want to take a cadet pilot..includin PPL,Instrument and...........forgot already..The fee is RM113,000 and including transport and eat!!!They train u at Philiphine and only 6 seats left.Requirement is SPM.Anybody interested?i want to register but no money la...
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Oct 12 2006, 10:15 PM
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WAH.. 113k wor.. @.@ If I have spm cert also cant go la.. far far far expensive >.< (I'm only 16
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Oct 21 2006, 12:39 AM
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about that company,
don't trust so much..... because honestly, i haven't heard of any of those from people in the aviation, i might be wrong, but be careful... dun simply spend your money.... the best way is still CADET program, but of course not everyone can get in,... if u Fail to get into the CADET program, and can afford your own training, got 3 schools: MFA - Malaysia flying academy(Malacca) HMA - HM Aerospace(Langkawi) APFT - Asia Pacific Flight Training(Kota Bahru) difference between SPONSORED and SELF-Sponsor SPONSERED by MAS or Air Asia or SIA - when u finish, you are guranteed of a job SELF-Sponsored - You have to look for a job once u graduate and may end up jobless..... so weigh the risk....... in malaysia... ground school(study only), got 4 phase PPL - 1 month DCAT - 2 months UKCAA CA 6 - 3 months (this is the most difficult phase.... ) CA 2 - 1-2 months flying about 200 hours .... here's a brief guide from me |
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Oct 21 2006, 01:40 AM
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thx for da info dude. hmm.. then after spm i can join da cadet ady? (if got any).. hehe
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Oct 21 2006, 07:46 AM
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wut i heard from my father frens(he's working in MAS for 31 years)..get u degree 1st b4 applying...
reason: -ur foundation bit solid compared to other canditates that only posses SPM cert. -imagine if u hav health problem tat cause u to quit ur job as a pilot,but u hav only SPM cert...so wut u gonna do?if ur from rich family,nvm,maybe ur mom n dad can support u to do diploma or watsoever... tats wut i heard from a man tat hav been through 31years of experience working in airline industries |
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Oct 22 2006, 10:51 AM
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hhmmmm............ good ..
i think i'll go on next year ... try out the MAS & AirAsia sponsorship 1, if cannot then take loan. 150k too much for me ..!! 113k at Philiphine ? i never heard that country hav a good flying academy...haha.. if wan go oversea, Singapore & Aus will b better. |
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Oct 22 2006, 02:09 PM
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if u want to fly in malaysia.. TRY TO AVOID overseas license...
DCA malaysia will give a lot of problem to Foreign-license holder |
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Oct 22 2006, 06:06 PM
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take degree ar.. engineering degree? wah then need to waste some $ for tht degree first. actually 160 cm, they'll take onot? I'm kinda short. Dunno whether I'm still growing onot, coz I'm still 16.
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Oct 22 2006, 06:20 PM
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MAS pilots are among the best in the world.
Leave the American pilots(especially..i think those low budget crappy airlines) wayyyy behind in terms of handling the aircraft in any given situation. We are more trained to handle things manually rather than just switch everything to autopilot. thats why emirates, korean airlines tried to reqruit msian pilots. Ooo yeah. MAS still doesnt accept female pilots. and i think for the first maybe 10 years...u will find this career to be very interesting and exciting..blah blah blah. but things get stale. u leave home. eat not so decent food (home cooked meals will still be the best). come home. sleep/rest. then it's time to fly again. the perks include the 'free' around the world trip. and im sure the b747 captain whose salary is around 60k is not working for our local airline as there is no farkg way they will EVER pay u that much. at most will be less than 25k monthly(after approx 25yrs of working). BTW, my post is solely based on my own experience and opinions. im sorry if i have offended anyone. |
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Oct 22 2006, 06:23 PM
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psst....i heard the airasia pilots whom were sent to france for their airbus traning failed. all of them.
hehe. mr tony didnt seem careful enough to select his pilots. |
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Oct 22 2006, 06:36 PM
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MFA - Malaysia flying academy(Malacca)
HMA - HM Aerospace(Langkawi) RM180k inclusive of food n stay.. office near midvalley APFT - Asia Pacific Flight Training(Kota Bahru) there is a new flying school in Bintulu too.. |
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Oct 22 2006, 09:22 PM
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supazta..
hmm, you're flying for which carrier? btw.. again for those who consider foreign license.. think again.... you will have a hard time in malaysia,in fACT a VERY vERY VERY hard time if u hold UKCAA, CASA, FAA license -trying to find a job in malaysia............... This post has been edited by fillet: Oct 22 2006, 09:23 PM |
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Oct 22 2006, 09:37 PM
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i got a couple of friends studying in mfa right now. one is under MAS scholarship.. another is self sponsor i think. no need to get any degree but if u want to go under MAS u have to pass your spm physics in one sitting (at least credit if i'm not mistaken). and then u have to pass the interview (most interviewee studied info about MAS, my friend was asked who the CEO of MAS is), and then several tests (my friend described it as playing a computer game). and then in mfa u have the ground school (have to pass the exams) and certain flight hours to be fulfilled (single engine and twin engine aircrafts). the course is around 1 and a half year... depending on the whether condition i guess (my friend right now almost 2 years cannot graduate cos flight hours not enough due to haze). it's better if u go under the scholarship since u get to stay inside (hostel with meals provided 6 times a day) + allowance + guaranteed job after graduate. i think there's also an age limit of 23 (not sure for entry to mfa or apllication of MAS scholarship). a friend who is already a pilot has a salary + allowance (before income tax) of rm 20k. too bad my mom wont let me be a pilot
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Oct 22 2006, 11:48 PM
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Hmmm....as what i know,most of MAS cadet pilot only have SPM cert.Hahaha...
my friend father is B747 capten.Someone said that MAS pay him around 40K and there is another guy who is capten for all aircraft in MAS who get paid for lunch meal around RM300...only for lunch dude.Calculate his meal for one day... |
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Oct 23 2006, 04:21 AM
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There are actually 3 ways
1) Airline Cadet Sponsorship 2) Self Sponsor 3) Air Force Joining the Air Force is a great way of becoming a pilot too. I have 3 friends who USED to be RMAF pilots but after the contract ended, they are now flying for local airlines. The chance of ex military pilots getting hired by an airline company is quite high. |
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Oct 23 2006, 10:04 AM
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simyao, you're right, Air Force is a good way in realising the flying dream.
But the entry requirements are quite stringent especially on the flying aptitude and medical part. Somemore, some pilot wannabes out there dont really take Air Force as a choice. I have no idea what are the reasons, but well, at least consider this an option. AirAsia has been hiring aggressively for the past years, in fact, many of the new recruits are from RMAF. |
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Oct 23 2006, 11:22 AM
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deathwing, any idea what is the new MPL????
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Oct 25 2006, 09:57 PM
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When did the last SIA advertisment come out?......
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Oct 26 2006, 08:20 PM
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errr..last few weeks back lol
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Nov 2 2006, 04:00 AM
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anyone from HMA??
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Nov 2 2006, 04:00 AM
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anyone here from HMA??
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Nov 2 2006, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(fillet @ Sep 2 2006, 12:48 PM) dicafa... i sugesst if u want to pay for your own training, do it in malaysia..... Yo guys i've already finished my degree and now seeking for a job. My dream is to become a pilot and hope to apply for it. Are there any vacancies to become a pilot now? Whom can i apply to right now?i know a couple of instrutors who is holding a foreign license having difficulties to enter local airlines... and DCA gives lots of problem in conversion I've not gotten the chance to read all the post here yet but i will slowly read it today . thanks |
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Nov 9 2006, 01:31 PM
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erm.. guys.. i've just been called by SIA for an interview this 19th. they require me to do an eye screening test.. any suggestions on to who i should go too? let me know in advance as i need to apply leave from my current job to set the appointment..
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Nov 9 2006, 10:45 PM
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hey,next year i will send my resume to MAS..actually,im a trainee there.Just want to know about their aptitude test...haha...if i pass the interview,have to think twice lol.I already have a contract with MAS for 5 years.If not,have to pay the bond.SO expensive lol....
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Nov 10 2006, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(GiNgEr^fIsH @ Nov 9 2006, 01:31 PM) erm.. guys.. i've just been called by SIA for an interview this 19th. they require me to do an eye screening test.. any suggestions on to who i should go too? let me know in advance as i need to apply leave from my current job to set the appointment.. Any ophthalmologist will do.But if you want to have peace of mind, you can always try Tun Hussien Onn eye hospital, quite a number of aviation specialists there. Best of luck in the interview. |
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Nov 10 2006, 10:56 PM
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thanks.. aside from the one tun hussein onn hospital, do i have any options? im not from kl.. so i dun really know where is the hospital..
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Nov 12 2006, 11:47 PM
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Do you have what it takes to become a pilot? Flying is a lifelong passion. Malaysia Airlines is looking for anyone who has that vision to take to the skies and pursue a lifelong ambition as an aviator. As part of Malaysia Airlines' contribution towards nation building, we recruit young and talented individuals to join our cadet pilot training programme. Like all our pilots, the new pilots will be among the best trained in the world and it would be expected of them to uphold the stringent standards that have made Malaysia Airlines one of the safest airlines in the world. This season, applicants will undergo a thorough scientific selection process to reveal their potential to become safe, efficient pilots. With our human development focus, successful candidates can also look forward to being part of Malaysia Airlines' Flight Operations management team as part of a long term career path. REQUIREMENTS * Malaysian citizen, aged between 18 to 26 as at date of application * Pass SPM or its equivalent qualification recognized by Malaysian government with six (06) credits including Bahasa Malaysia and a minimum of B4 in Mathematics, Physics and English taken at one sitting. OR Possess Diploma / Degree in Engineering or Science related disciplines with CGPA 3.0 or above and six (6) credits with a pass in Bahasa Malaysia in SPM taken at one sitting. * Good command of Bahasa Malaysia and English both written and spoken. * Must be physically and metally fit with good eyesight (visual acuity of at least 6/60 without optical aid, correctable to 6/6) and not colour blind. * Minimum height of 163cm (5ft 4in). * Prepared to sign training bond. THE SELECTION PROCESS The process consists of six phases, namely: * Pre screening of application * Psychomotor skill test * Psychometric tests * Interview * Medical examination. * Final selection THE TRAINING PROGRAMME Commercial Pilots Licence And 'Frozen' Atpl The training programme is wholly sponsored by Malaysia Airlines. All cadet pilots will have to repay the cost of training through monthly deductions over a period of fifteen years commencing from the time they are employed as Second Officers. In addition, all cadet pilots have to sign a training bond. The training will be conducted at the Malaysian Flying Academy in Melaka, or any other flying training colleges approved by the Malaysian Department of Civil Aviation (MDCA). Prior to leaving, cadet pilots will undergo an induction programme designed to prepare them for what is expected of them throughout their training. The programme will also offer them a brief introduction to Malaysia Airlines. Phase 1: This phase takes approximately 60 weeks and consists of the following: 1. Ground school curriculum of approximately 920 hours of classroom time, where cadet pilots will learn: Basic aeronautical knowledge comprising of Theory of Flights, Engines, Airframe and Systems, Electric, Ail Law, and Radiotelephony Theory and Practical - and are required to pass the Private Pilot Licence and the MDCA Technical Examinations. Flight Planning, Instruments, Meteorology Theory, Meteorology Practical, Navigation, and Radio Aids - and are required to pass the UK Overseas Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) Airline Transport Pilots' Licence (ATPL) Examinations. Performance A, Loading, and Human Performance and Limitation - and are required to pass the UK Overseas Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) Examinations. The passing mark for all tests is 75% 2. Flight training that covers 200 aeroplane hours and 30 hours in a flight simulator. The 200 aeroplane hours will see each cadet flying the single-engine Piper Warrior for 165 hours of basic flying, instrument flight and navigation training and then the twin-engine Piper Seneca III for 35 hours of flight training. Cadet pilots who complete this phase successfully will graduate with a Malaysian Commercial Pilots' Licence with Instrument Rating, and a Frozen Airline Transport Pilots' Licence. Our stringent standards have resulted in an integrated programme that provides cadet pilots with a solid foundation in both ground subjects and flying. Phase 2: In this phase, all successful cadets are first subject to the Promotion and Selection Board, which will post cadets to fly either F50s or B737s, depending on their performance whilst in flying school and the availability of vacancies in the fleet. Cadets then enter an induction programme, which includes Crew Resource Management, to equip them with the necessary skills to be airline pilots. At the end of this programme, the cadets will undergo technical training (basic jet course) and aircraft type conversion. Aircraft type conversion comprises a computer-based training (CBT) ground course, fixed-based and full flight simulator work, aircraft endorsement and line-flying training. Generally, this phase takes 6 to 9 months to complete. Upon completion of the course, the cadet will become a Second Officer. JOBS After training, the cadets join Malaysia Airlines as full-fledged co-pilots holding the rank of Second Officers on either F50s or B737s. A typical career path will see a Second Officer begin as an F50 co-pilot, then a Boeing B737 co-pilot and becoming an Airbus A330, Boeing B777 or B747 co-pilot before returning to the F50 or B737 as Captain. This growth process from co-pilot to Captain usually takes 8 years, depending on vacancy, seniority and suitability (performance). Pilots with suitability can also move into training captain and managerial positions whilst flying actively. Candidates for training captain and managerial appointments are selected from the line captains. A pilot's typical job scope includes pre-flight briefing and preparation. A pilot has to examine the flight's routing, the expected weather pattern and the amount of fuel needed for the flight. Once airborne, he has to manage his resources (primarily fuel), his crew (both technical and cabin) and the flight itself, taking the aircraft safely to its destination as it flies through different situations and environmental conditions while constantly considering the safety and comfort of the passengers, punctuality and economy. Hey,im going to apply next year..anybody interested with this?Hmmm.have to pay bond for 15 years..who cares..ur salary at that time about 10K already..hehehe... |
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Nov 13 2006, 12:11 AM
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i dont think they have any more F50s. Most of the graduates will go to 737s Is that right ?
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Nov 13 2006, 09:56 AM
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he quote it from mh webby last time when the vacancy is available
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Nov 14 2006, 08:12 PM
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I heard there is an interview for cadet pilot (first interview) on this coming Saturday (18/11) and Sunday (19/11) by SIA. Anyone going for it?
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Nov 16 2006, 09:09 PM
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yeah.I also heard that.I actually want to try but since it's very hard to pass the exam,i cancell it.Even a degree holder struggle to pass the exam.Me?i only have SPM cert..hehehe...
Right now,no more F50.All go to B737 or B747 |
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Nov 17 2006, 07:29 PM
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im goin.. they called me.. so why not give it a try.. lolz
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Nov 18 2006, 03:27 PM
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I'm gonna be tryin out for it as well.....(for the millionth time)
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Nov 18 2006, 03:43 PM
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tata.. u tried b4?
did they call u? or ur just goin to walk in? |
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Nov 25 2006, 10:05 PM
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anyone knows what does it mean by "Must be physically and metally fit with good eyesight (visual acuity of at least 6/60 without optical aid, correctable to 6/6) and not colour blind."...i'm a speky guy and wish to become one...hehe...my power +-4.00.
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Nov 26 2006, 01:25 PM
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erm..i'm new. erm.. may i ask, what is the pilot that usually fly boeing/ aibus? what do these kind of pilot called?
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Nov 26 2006, 09:02 PM
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They never call/contact me....,sometimes i think i'm only gonna get it when i'm 50.....,i never stop sending in my applications though...,one of my homies just got called up for the psycomotor test held in a hotel back in KL.....(he wanted it less badly than me)
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Nov 27 2006, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Grajindo @ Nov 26 2006, 01:25 PM) erm..i'm new. erm.. may i ask, what is the pilot that usually fly boeing/ aibus? what do these kind of pilot called? errr....a pilot.....hehe...not sure la but what i know,they only have 1st officer and a captain.Sometimes,an aircraft like 747,they have 3rd officer... |
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Nov 28 2006, 06:03 PM
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Any of you guys know on as to how long SIA takes to reply once you've created a profile at their site?......
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