AMD seems to suggest that its not optimized for gaming yet(based on their statement to pcper) and all this while games have been optimized by default for intel as it has been the performance leader for the past decade. I'll reserve my judgement when the entire Ryzen product stack is out. If till then they still have performance issues in gaming, then gamers will have to default to intel for gaming.

Gamers Nexus got it right. R7s are i7 in Productivity at half the price and a slightly overpriced i5 in Gaming. Well 1/2 x 2 is really 1.

Buyers really need to check their need before splurging their money and have to stop being lazy and start reading more than one review..

AMD seems to suggest that its not optimized for gaming yet(based on their statement to pcper) and all this while games have been optimized by default for intel as it has been the performance leader for the past decade. I'll reserve my judgement when the entire Ryzen product stack is out. If till then they still have performance issues in gaming, then gamers will have to default to intel for gaming.

Gamers Nexus got it right. R7s are i7 in Productivity at half the price and a slightly overpriced i5 in Gaming. Well 1/2 x 2 is really 1.

It's the other way around. Games are not optimized for Ryzen.

Not surprising. Synthetic benchmarks were already programmed to utilized the cores as much as they can.

Games on the other hand were developed based on what's available.

Too many review/benchmark to read ( wait weekend ), so instead I read this interesting article. Compared a stock Ryzen 1700 DDR4 system against old i5 3570K ( OCed 4.2GHz ) DDR3, and Ryzen lost.
However based on comment/feedback from user, the gap close as display resolution get higher, and if the game are DX12 and Vulkan optimized. AMD also working with developers to optimize their games.

Sad result in The Division


Surge above in DX12 in AotS


http://www.pcworld.com/article/3176100/com...der.html?page=2

Specially, high end i7.
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I'm gonna jump ship when Ryzen 5 is out, bang for buck cpu  gaming performance I'd say it's due to games Un optimised for Ryzen, future games with dx 12 sure will make Ryzen shine

I've been following Ryzen for a month now. Since Ryzen r7 benchmark is out, am i safe to assume that even if i continue to wait for their Ryzen r5 1400x the performance is same as Kabylake i5 7500? Purely just for gaming.

I've been following Ryzen for a month now. Since Ryzen r7 benchmark is out, am i safe to assume that even if i continue to wait for their Ryzen r5 1400x the performance is same as Kabylake i5 7500? Purely just for gaming.

The IPC is higher than my processor but it perform much worst? WTH? 
If you enable CUDA acceleration rendering does it eliminate the need for stronger CPU or it will still scale accordingly?

If you enable CUDA acceleration rendering does it eliminate the need for stronger CPU or it will still scale accordingly?

waiting  upcoming Raven Ridge  APU  what kind igpu they will pack?  R9 

Whoa... what happened? 

All the hyping up pointed to 1700X / 1800X being a beast for gaming performance.

Instead, with Intel's price cut + lead in gaming performance, there is little to get excited about Ryzen, unfortunately.

I expected better... 

Whoa... what happened? 

All the hyping up pointed to 1700X / 1800X being a beast for gaming performance.

Instead, with Intel's price cut + lead in gaming performance, there is little to get excited about Ryzen, unfortunately.

Instead, with Intel's price cut + lead in gaming performance, there is little to get excited about Ryzen, unfortunately.